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[Mobile Suit Gundam] What is Lalah?

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1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:29

Char’s Woman

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:30

In the end, this guy from the parallel world has shown up!
But are you saying that you couldn’t protect the Colonel, which means it’s different from the official history?

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:32Yeahx8

>>2Isn’t the original work the final route?

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:17Yeahx1

>>5In the interview, they said it’s like a virtual war story, so maybe they won’t go to the original work?
If I read a virtual war history and it said that this is actually a hidden truth from history, that would be scary.

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:24

>>5There are multiple routes in which Lalah dies, but
That route hasn’t been observed yet, right?

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:30Yeahx12

Yume girl

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:30

A woman who wants to Beyond the Time with both Char and Amuro at the same time.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:33

The resonance scene with Amuro from First is
I think it’s an image video for the herb project.

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:33Yeahx2

Hippie culture?

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:36Yeahx8

It’s different from the original series, isn’t it?! But the original Lalah lived in a parallel world! It’s impossible to do that, so it can’t be helped.

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:36

It seems more enjoyable after death.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:41Yeahx3

>>9There’s also a theory that it’s like a memory from before death that clings to the universe, and not the person themselves at all…

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:36

I want to be sandwiched in between~

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:37

Well, considering it’s a pretty amazing NT, it died quite honestly, so I don’t feel any discomfort about it being exaggerated.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:49

Is this guy who is making noise Lalah dead?

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:51

The only extreme Newtypes who can see a world that should not be visible to humans are Lalah and Kamille.
When Lala arrived, she was killed by Amuro, and Kamille, after various events, had a mental breakdown.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:52

The dead Route’s Lalah (Rose) is intervening heavily in the Char survival route, leading to the birth of a parallel world (Zieg Axis).
In the end, Rose realizes that the path to help both of them is through self-sacrifice, and in the 1st, the Gq world has Shirozu and Lalaa (older sister) united for a happy ending, perhaps?

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:54

Is it considered a no-go for Lalah if Char dies in a counterattack?

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:57

>>16Maybe GQ Lalah cannot observe beyond Char’s Counterattack.
It’s after the official death of Lalah.
Well, it seems that the true history hasn’t been observed in the first place.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:59

>>17But Amuro is dreaming of La La’s nightmare…

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:00

>>20That is the spirit of the historical La La.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:01

>>20I just thought that Amuro was simply troubled by trauma…

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:02

>>23That is the real history of Lalah, who has died and whose soul has gone to the other side.
By the way, I also speak to Amuro and Char in my dreams.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:58

If the official history is best for Lalah, then the Gryps Conflict aside.
The 5th Luna and Axis dropped in Char’s Counterattack, causing a lot of trouble for unrelated people…

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)12:58

This guy really came from the true historical world! Personally, I find that a bit disappointing.
But for the man from the high castle, it seems like a story close to that.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:00Yeahx1

>>19The history that the man in the high castle is glimpsing is a different history from the actual history.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:02

>>21This means that the thread image and Hermes came from a place different from both the official history and the GQ world…

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:05Yeahx1

>>24In the first generation, the cockpit gets hit directly by the saber and explodes along with the entire aircraft, and in the GQ world, La La is not even on the battlefield in the first place.
It is believed to have flowed from a world where Lalah could not save Char in the original shining universe.

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:07

>>28A world where Char ended up being impaled like that…

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:24

>>30That route actually happened in SD…
I was jokingly saying, “Where is the place I’m going back to?” but I never expected to pick something like that up.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:04Yeahx3

“It’s like, ‘This is how an alternate history would be in a world where the Axis won…’ When you look at it from a god’s perspective, it’s great how it confronts you with the idea that ‘this fictional history in the story is actually what history should have been, and your history is the result of its distortion.'”

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:05

The higher existence is just casually calling it the official history.
There is no up or down in a parallel world.

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:06Yeahx2

>>27If anything, there are many parallel developments where the flow is different even at the 1st point, that’s Gundam for you…

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:07Yeahx3

It’s been quite a while since there was any talk about Gundam, so it’s refreshing to see everyone excited about Lalah.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11

>>31Until now, it has mostly been discussed with the image of Char’s Counterattack.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:07Yeahx2

The time-space of Char with the jutting chin, who can overwhelmingly defeat Gundam yet cannot observe Lala.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:20

>>32A world where Char isn’t handsome seems like it would just be skipped over.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:09

The first world may be liberated from the body and be together as three, but the path that civilization is taking is too tragic, so I hope for a different future…

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11

I’ve only watched Gekiax, but was the original a story about the occult?

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11Yeahx3

>>34The elements are weak, but there are quite a few occult-related stories that come up…

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11Yeahx4

>>34Around Lala, the occult is thriving.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:14Yeahx3

>>39This area was also popular for New Age ideas.
The idea of evolved humanity acquiring superpowers and elevating their dimension as living beings is a relatively universal theme in science fiction.

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:18

>>49Digging around that area, I found it interesting that I ended up at the idea of deification by the Eastern Orthodox Church.

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11Yeahx3

>>34Not limited to the first generation, the Universal Century Gundam generally falls into occult themes.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:12

>>42The first installment’s ending is certainly about saving comrades with supernatural powers, so it’s occult…

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11

I’m really enjoying the fact that Char is using a fake name and this guy is showing up, but I can’t quite figure out how Machu will interrupt.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11

Is it because the Lalafell over there is alive that we can communicate with the world where Char died?

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11Yeahx4

If Char is too strong, he won’t come to meet Lalah, so it’s necessary for him to be moderately weak.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:11

I was much more invested in Char than I thought.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:12Yeahx1

>>41It’s difficult to understand due to the occult remarks in the original work, but…
They are totally obsessed with Char and mock Amuro quite a bit.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:13Yeahx4

All works have communication through psychic powers.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:14Yeahx3

Rather than the whole story, the occult elements suddenly appear in the latter half.
Especially the final battle is amazing ZZ and so on.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:14

Zeke Ax was Madoka Magica.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:14Yeahx1

There were robot stories that dealt with superpowers.
You could say that the ones dyed in Gundam colors are New Types.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:14

Ugly.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:16Yeahx7

But the ending of the first generation is great, isn’t it…?
A twist where the power that could only be used for killing is used to save a comrade, and in turn, that comrade saves the user.
I will also properly use the Core Fighter.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:16Yeahx11

>>52Why would they make a sequel when it ended so beautifully?

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:17Yeahx3

>>53The explanatory meeting begins.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:19Yeahx6

During the first generation as well
“You have no family to protect and no hometown to return to!”
I’m saying some quite harsh things to Amuro.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:20Yeahx2

>>56Yet, I end up liking you, which is pretty much a bitch move, isn’t it?

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:21Yeahx5

>>59Stop the nonsense with that guy; even he is getting mad.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:24Yeahx4

>>59It’s like the original thing that shares sparkle, so there’s nothing that can be done about it.
Even so, I’m saying it was too late, which is why I’m keeping my honor intact with Char.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:26

>>59It’s just pure.

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:27

>>72What the hell is this guy…

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:22

>>56I have cut ties with my local mother.
Father either went mad or died.
The only ones I can rely on are my comrades from the White Base.
I can understand why you would want to say, “Why are you recklessly standing in our way while fighting?!”

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:25Yeahx1

>>56Amuro’s response, questioning whether it’s wrong to fight without that, shows he’s pretty jaded, doesn’t it?

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:27Yeahx2

>>56This itself is also true for Lalah, so it’s a question that resonates with me as well.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:29Yeahx2

>>77Isn’t it because the person has Char that they can take that mount?!

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:20

Next time, it seems we will talk about Lala’s story from this side.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:22Yeahx3

I’m glad… I still have a place to go back to…
Huh? House arrest?

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:22Yeahx1

Well, it’s the biggest climax of the latter half of the first generation, so that’s why the green old man got his role reduced.

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:23

At the end of the first half, it suddenly shifts to the occult, but at this point, it’s just telepathy and psychokinesis through devices.
Being able to talk to the spirits of people who died in movies, emitting an aura in Z, having the aura become giant in ZZ, and finally in CCA, being able to bounce back meteors through a special frame.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:24Yeahx4

>>64I still feel like the original is just right…

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:24

The wicked federal government.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:25Yeahx3

The reason the first generation didn’t get so wrapped up in the occult was thanks to Matsuzaki, Hoshiyama, and Araki; with just Tomino, Yasuhiko, and Okawahara, it wouldn’t have turned out like the original Gundam.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:26Yeahx1

I’m watching First for the first time, but isn’t Char in the episode where Lalah dies a bit too weak compared to other times?
The mobility of the Gundam aside, without Lala, you would have died without even realizing you were being shot at!

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:26Yeahx8

That’s why I ride the Core Fighter, designed with the hope that at least my father, Tem Ray, can survive as a pilot, leading the WB crew until the end.
Amuro, returning to the WB crew while shedding tears, beautifully and nobly shows that there is still a place I should return to.

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:20

>>74I finally nailed it in G Generation after a long time, and it’s truly a beautiful ending, the 1st.
As both a war story and a home drama.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:26Yeahx3

Main Story Lalah
Zeke Axlarra
Lalah who became a rose without being stabbed by Hermes.
Ugh, how complicated!

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:27Yeahx1

I like Char, but I also feel destiny with Amuro, like, “Why did you appear now!?” So when I think about it, this girl is saying something quite selfish…

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:29Yeahx4

>>78It can’t be helped; it’s not just a simple case of love at first sight, we’ve really connected.
Even so, she’s a good woman because she’s willing to give her life for Char until the end.
Since becoming a malevolent spirit, it’s a bit… uh…

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:27

Lala doing idol activities in the Aikatsu world.

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:28

Speaking of which, in the full-color theater, Lalah also traveled to the past to save Char and the Gundam, who had become spiritual bodies.

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:28

I hope that Amuro, Char, and Lalah will depict a happy Universal Century.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:28

I love how the first character shows various perspectives that haven’t been discussed before.

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:29Yeahx1

There’s actually a bio-sensor for Z’s paranormal phenomena… but that just sounds like a painful excuse, doesn’t it?

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:31Yeahx1

>>83I like the theory that the O didn’t move because it was hacked by Camille’s brain waves, but since it’s not explicitly stated, in the end, it’s just a fantasy, isn’t it?

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:34Yeahx2

>>83Even without biosensors, earthquakes are occurring in ZZ…

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:29

(Why is this person reading the bit’s trajectory and shooting beams? It’s scary…)
I wonder why this person can read the trajectory of the bits and cut them with a beam saber. It’s scary…

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:29

Which is it, the loop theory or the parallel theory?

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:30Yeahx7

>>86It’s parallel, right?
Just observing.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:33Yeahx1

>>88It’s nice that no matter how many times you redo it with parallel observation, the words that come out seem to suggest a pretty broken ego.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:36

>>96This is an explanation that we are not observing objectively, but rather from a subjective perspective.
It seems to be synchronized with the roses as well.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:31Yeahx1

>>86Isn’t it a parallel with the evil spirit, roses, and the active prostitute, La La A?

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:30Yeahx1

I wasn’t expecting something like loops or the multiverse, and honestly, I wished they wouldn’t include it.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:31Yeahx6

People who try to force things into a loop usually completely miss the point of the conversation, and that’s harmful.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:31

Were the rose and the evil spirit different people?

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:34

>>92There are no holes in the cockpit, so for now, it’s a different person.
If I go to get pierced from now on, I won’t know.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:31

Are you Sans?

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:32

It seems they tried to take a different direction with Gundam, like Origin and Sunbow.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:35

The appearance of Hermes also has a different color for the glass part compared to the first generation.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:36

The opinion that it feels “like Super Robot Wars” really resonates.
If it were Super Robot Wars, I would have enjoyed it straightforwardly…

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:38

The way to summarize the 1st is really beautiful.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:39

>>102Why did you make a sequel?

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:40

>>103The works that sell are considered to be worth money.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:43

>>105Well, in Zikurakusu 2.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:42

>>103(Let’s make this guy Camille)

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:13Yeahx1

>>102After watching that final episode, I can’t help but think that humanity will eventually awaken as Newtypes and be able to understand each other in the future.
In reality, the discrimination against space noids has become even worse.

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:14

>>128Everyone becomes NT-like, after all.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:40

A world where there are two Lalahs at the same time…
Dreaming Lala.
Time Stop Lalah

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:42

>>104Older woman
Rose Laa

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:41

This is where the Orichalcos activates.

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:43

If there’s a multiverse and awakened new types are interfering all over the place, does that mean that the entire story of the Universal Century is just a farce?

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:46Yeahx4

>>110Your Universal Century is fine like that, but please don’t bring it outside.

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:44Yeahx2

A scenario of a Zeon victory can play out in any way you want.
Adding all sorts of mysteries was different from what I was expecting.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:45

Originally, it’s about the Akashic Records and such, you know.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:47

Riam, don’t get too close to Gundam.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:47

Putting aside the mystery, there was an idea for a whole season to be all clan battles, but it really depends on how it’s organized…

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:47Yeahx1

No matter how much I interfere, it’s always the Char death route! Just because I’m an awakened NT doesn’t mean I can do anything.

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:49

Since the endings are different in the TV version Z and the movie version Z, it’s pointless to think about what the correct history is.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:51

It seems like once you’re dead and integrated with the whole, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
In that case, they get into a vibe of “Hehe, someday we’ll all become one,” and they don’t really interfere much.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)13:58Yeahx1

>>118It seems like the timeline where you protect the Colonel and then float around in space with the Colonel and Amuro has the highest level of satisfaction.

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:00

Until then it was a war story, but when this guy shows up, the atmosphere suddenly changes.

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:01

No matter how many times I observe, it’s either Char or myself who dies! Amuro is such a powerful NT that he completely undermines Lalah’s intentions.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:02

It has many hardcore sci-fi themes, and I have a feeling that Machu will end up not killing anyone after all.

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:23

>>122Even if you killed him, it would have been done by Zigax.

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:09

Why did you help Judau?

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:09

I just want to be sandwiched between my two favorites.
Isn’t it cute?

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:10

If Hamaan survives, it’s probably going to be a disaster…

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:17

>>125If Judau loses, Haman will take control…
Connected with Char…

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:27

>>130It’s not a joke!

127: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/05(Thu)14:12

I was surprised to see that even after two cours, the story of New Type doesn’t come up at all while watching the original.

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