Patricide…
>>1Response from Lady Kiryia
Where are the good person elements?
>>2A person with a nice voice.
Do you have any idea how many sacrifices were made because of this guy?
Generally speaking, killing people in the hundreds of millions is bad.
>>4That’s the worst… Commander Char Aznable…
>>627That’s true.
>>641Whether a person is good or bad, raising a dangerous ideology might ultimately lead to only doing dangerous things.
It is not someone who is doing it with malice.
But what they are doing is quite a misdeed.
No matter what, there was too much killing.
He is a person with a heart, more so than the image suggests.
It’s just that I’m much softer on my family than they think.
The timing for execution is something I absolutely won’t miss.
It might just be that they look down on them as inferior.
There’s no way the evaluation will change at the point where they’re doing colony drops…
As pointed out by Kshyria, the moment you show your back to Kshyria with a gun in that situation is incredibly naive.
A goatee that doesn’t have a goatee.
He’s a bad person, but he’s seriously thinking about the survival of humanity.
Sweet to the family.
I’m tough on those who can’t do as well as I can.
You’re super excellent, aren’t you?
The independence of space immigrants is just a means for the Zabi family to rise to power in the Earth sphere.
Favoritism can be cold-hearted enough to quickly dispose of someone if they become unnecessary, just because they are family and there’s no betrayal involved.
I wonder whose responsibility it is for spreading poison gas in the colony and massacring the residents.
It might be an influence from the adult circumstances that caused a rushed ending, but it’s rather naive to actually trust the younger sister who has indirectly criticized me for killing our father.
>>18I don’t think that killing Deguin itself was a mistake.
I thought Kishiria would understand that since she is also talented.
He’s a good person, except for the occasional massacre or killing of family members.
Is it Fukuyama?
Even Basque and Seema have kill scores of around 10 million, but this guy is literally on a completely different level.
>>21The scale of the victims is too large!
Was it IQ300?
Just because the purpose isn’t selfish doesn’t mean it’s not evil.
The speech is impressive, thanks to the power of the voice.
I will do anything to win the war, but I’m not sure what I want to do after winning.
>>26They just want to reduce the population and create a managed society.
>>28It’s a population that has finally decreased. From that expression, it suggests…
Rather than saying it was aimed at that
I feel like they are trying to justify the outcome.
Deggin seems to have mellowed with age, but when he was younger, he was quite the go-getter.
>>27The one who inherited Degin’s political skills is Sleggar, that’s why.
A cunning and capable person.
Rather than being sweet to the family, it’s more like they only see their family, including them, as mere pieces.
>>30If necessary, I could also use my brother’s death, but saying that I only consider him as a pawn is going too far.
>>30Rather, it’s strange that despite knowing and using others as pawns, Kycilia is completely unguarded; there’s an odd balance with some emotional aspect involved.
Well, of course you’ll get shot.
>>42If we assume that I have no doubt about my ultimate victory.
It’s understandable to think that Kycilia wouldn’t try to shoot at that timing.
>>30I don’t think so.
Generally, those who hold a belief in a chosen people have a sense of fraternity towards their own group and
Hostility towards the outside is not contradictory.
This person is quite a good Hitler.
The thread image is consistently bad, yet there are inexplicable moments of emotion that are mysterious or belong to that category.
The identity of the person who killed Daikun is unknown, but…
I tried to deliver the remaining family members to Daikun.
It was undoubtedly Degwin who purged the Dykun faction.
In the Universal Century, human lives are light… they come back quickly.
>>36Well, if the population keeps increasing like this in reality during that era, food and resources will run out.
What should I do? It was being talked about a lot.
I never expected that such a decline in population would occur, even though it’s limited to developed countries.
>>61It is not only developed countries anymore; fertility decline is happening outside of Africa and the Middle East as well.
Did Dad really kill Daikun in the end?
>>37Director Tomino assumes that Degwin was killed.
In Origin, Degwin was made to die of natural causes instead of being killed, so that the Zabi family wouldn’t just become villains.
>>39Because of this setting, the original Char feels quite clownish, doesn’t he?
>>368I thought I was treated horribly by my mother… but it was actually my father’s old mistress who did the horrible thing.
>>368The level of neglect that caused the lady to die afterwards is because of the Zabi family, so it’s not really a joke, right?
Origin Char is clearly acting out of resentment towards his mother, not his father.
>>39(Were they not just an ordinary villain…?)
>>37In response to Char’s confession, “Killing Garma was just empty,” Kycilia replies, “Speaking of which, my father was like that too.”
At least in the movie version, I seem to be considered a suspect by my own daughter.
Maybe this person is really sweet to everyone.
Everyone thinks that others are as smart and efficient thinkers as they are.
Unless you are shown a reaction in front of you that says such thinking is impossible, you are likely the type who doesn’t change your evaluation of others.
Because it was a spiral development, I ended up dying without having a conversation with the main character, Amuro.
It doesn’t seem like they’ve ever talked, even in spin-offs or external appearances like Super Robot Wars.
Mr. Hitler’s Tail
An uncle who wants to become the ruler of all humanity.
Somewhere, they called the Zeon space Nazis, and it just didn’t work for me.
According to the director, the character closest to him in the 1st is Gihren.
>>45In novels, there is a lot of inner description, isn’t there?
In the end, it was Char’s killing of Garma that triggered Degwin to lean towards peace with the Federation, and from there, they ended up killing each other within their own ranks.
You were impressive in achieving your objectives, Char.
I really feel that they must have wanted to win the One Year War.
>>48Starting a war without the intention of winning is a nuisance for us…
>>52After Garma died, I felt something similar from Degwin, as if he was not fully present.
>>52This is Deggin, right?
Well, that’s going to get you killed.
He’s the kind of person that even my dad teases by saying he just wants to imitate a little mustache like a monkey.
>>49The “tail” remark is a kind of advice from a father.
I was killed by a relative afterwards, you know! So I’m quite angry about it.
Amuro is not a politician, so there’s no need to talk to Gihren.
In that sense, it was good that the seed incorporated the death of the enemy army’s boss due to Aslan’s positioning into the main character’s drama.
If Diablo doesn’t appear in GQ, it seems better to eliminate candidates rather than Kishiria, so it’s a bit naive.
Hitler’s tail is easy to evaluate.
Depending on how the conversation goes, it seemed like we could win, and we’ve already won against Ziqas. Considering the difference in national strength, he must really be a genius.
From the depiction in the play, isn’t it just a mere ambitious person?
There is too little of the private side coming out.
>>58That guy is definitely a spoiled child at night!
>>64There was a brief glimpse of Cecilia in the preview.
>>58I like big breasts.
It’s just a novel setting, but
>>58A sense can be glimpsed around Deginzagreat.
>>374Wait! If that’s the case, it will turn into Tony’s world!
I wish Sasro-niisan were alive.
>>62If smart Dozle were alive, it would be way too crazy…
>>145A villain character that Sanjo Riku would likely like.
Harsh but lenient to family, that’s like Oda Nobunaga.
The man who loves Japan is trying to remember if it was official.
>>66In Mr. Yasuh’s mind, it’s official.
Some say the person inside is amazing, but speeches somehow elevate the mood of the audience, which is truly impressive.
>>67Even if I know this person’s wrongdoings, if they give a speech like that, I think I would also cheer for Zeon.
>>82Too much like Hitler…
If the Federation hadn’t been able to produce a super excellent machine called the Jim as their first full-scale production unit, they might have pushed through.
A strong elitist mindset, but a high governing ability uncle.
It’s an evil character, but it’s interesting, so it would be sad if they died easily in the Ziek Ax.
Even if we kill 5 billion, it will recover to 10 billion within 20 years.
It will increase to 30 billion afterwards.
>>77A future where criminals are treated as food sources.
In official history, there are no good points.
If it’s Ziquas, then the achievement of winning autonomy for the Space Noids is amazing enough to wipe everything out.
I dislike yes men, so that’s different from Hitler.
>>79Well, it’s just imitating the upper parts, so it’s not exactly Hitler himself.
I was supposed to be the final boss with Gihren’s exclusive MS.
>>80That castle?
>>80It’s not occupied.
It’s a large Gigan that moves without a pilot.
Has Gilgamesh ever mentioned Amuro, or even the WB team itself, besides saying that it’s nothing more than struggling against a single Gundam?
Just a good person who has killed around 5 billion people (including my dad).
If we’re talking about capability, it’s amazing that he’s positioned my father on the throne as a king and is changing the political system at just 30 years old.
It’s clear that they are smart because they immediately respond to New Types with, “So you can understand what I’m thinking, right?”
Scary
I’m kind of sweet or gentle to my younger sister.
I was shot from behind.
>>91It’s sweeter than Degin.
Even Degwin, who was always getting in Gihren’s way, didn’t intend to kill him unless he went ahead and made a truce on his own.
If we’re talking about competence, they are extremely capable, but they don’t seem like a good person.
>>92Revil is not a good person either.
It seems that even you, brother, are quite sweet…
There are times when you have no chance of winning but still have to do it.
I absolutely don’t think she ordered anyone to kill Kysyria herself.
>>96They may be political rivals, but perhaps they don’t actually want to kill each other.
If anything, this person will launch another colony drop after pushing the Federation to its limits in Gihren’s Ambition.
Among the leaders of past Gundams, they are exceptionally skilled in speeches and agitation.
To be honest, good people can’t do anything.
I can only be a pawn at most.
It’s more interesting if the man who did cruel things becomes weak due to aging and the death of his beloved son, so I want Deggin to have assassinated Daikun.
Director Tomino is too good at writing speeches.
I wonder if there are generational things at play after all.
Even though Dozle and Kicilia have a bad relationship, I was in trouble.
When I hear that, it’s a somewhat cute big brother.
>>105The warlords are mainly those two, so if they fight, it would really be a problem.
It’s become a problem (the start of a power abuse battle between Dozle and Ma).
I wonder if she’s cooking for herself like Kishiria.
Gundam’s enemies usually choose massacre as a means of restoring order because their ideologies are just too strong.
>>107When a boy is placed in a situation where he has no choice but to kill using a murder weapon, it becomes inevitable.
It’s a good thing to reduce the population on Earth.
If people disappear, the Earth’s environment will get better.
Kishiria didn’t send reinforcements to Dozle, but he sent a Big Zam instead.
>>110Sending the Big Zam instead of the Rick Dom means we can’t maintain the front line, so it’s a signal to retreat, right?
>>119For some reason, I am serving as a lord while riding a Big Zam…
The discord between Duzel and Kshyria is so bad that they’d rather die than seek help from that guy.
If you intend to change the world, you have to at least commit some wrongdoing to make it happen.
It’s not really something mentioned much in the main Gundam series or its side stories, but isn’t it a bit much to kill people and drop colonies on Earth outside of allied ones? That’s not the kind of act that just disappears after 10 or 20 years due to resentment and infamy, is it…?
Fans don’t really see it as a big deal either.
>>113There are quite a few Space Noids who dislike the Zabi family!
>>113Fans have become too accustomed to colony drops…
>>123There are games where it has become a technique of the main character, turning into a delightful grand technique.
>>129As expected, the G crossover was a storm of comments!
>>143But there are also ones that continued as awakening moves…
I wonder what people thought about Char’s incredible performance in the One Year War in GQ.
When focusing on the Zabi family brothers, Kishiria seems the most peculiar.
I only feel affection for my younger brother, other than that I’m indifferent.
>>115Even though I found out about Char’s true identity, I’m dead because of the feelings I kept holding onto.
>>151That’s because having the card of Duykun’s orphan in your own hand could be useful in the political struggle against Gihren.
Isn’t Dozle’s bloodline different?
It’s ridiculously big.
>>117You’re the same type as him, or rather, you are Degging itself in body shape.
>>117Isn’t it the least similar to Degin?
>>117Rather, Dozle has the most fatherly traits.
>>127I’m going bald…
>>130If anything, Gihren might end up bald too.
The misdeeds before the story begins are considered part of that worldview and thus come to an end.
Kishiria is also saying she won’t forgive the one who killed her father! But in the Yasuhiko version, she’s also trying to kill her two brothers, and she succeeds with one, so it’s pretty intense.
The image of the Zabi family being associated with massacres is so strong that the actions of the Titans are said to be a reemergence of Zeon.
Dozul’s reinforcements are due to a personal reason; he can bow his head to his older brother, but he can’t do the same for his older sister.
Either way, Solomon is just a good decoy battlefield at this point.
Hey… why is Dozle piloting the Big Zam that I sent and dying like a lord?
Those who used poison gas and dropped colonies will all perish, so it seems this person won’t be able to escape this time either.
The second son who was dead at the time of the anime is a Dozle-type gorilla.
Being post-Hitler, if I were to survive, it would definitely only lead to nothing good.
This person isn’t bad after all, is he?It seems like it could stand with an image of Hitler.
The remnants of the Kecilia faction are impressive, but the remnants of the Gihren faction have an even more dangerous image.
I wonder if the idea of Sasuro being connected to the Zabi family was there from the beginning.
>>136It is written in the preparation draft of the anime and the name also appears in the novel version.
>>148I see, you were there from the initial setup.
>>150In fact, it was originally set as a good-looking character.
>>167I wonder if they stopped because it overlapped with Garma.
>>170It would be better if there was at least one more person inheriting good looks for balance.
>>182Isn’t Ghiren good-looking?
>>183It’s hard to be attractive without eyebrows.
>>167In the novel version, it seems they had a personality suited for a civil servant, so it would create a delicate image.
The origin is not the administrative type, but rather the Masaharu family type.
>>176If I put it out as is, the impact will be weaker, so there’s no helping it. More than anything, it weakens the reason for Kshiriya to carry out the assassination.
There are depictions of anger towards Degwin, who says things like “Duzul would probably be content to hear the news of his death,” which he doesn’t actually feel, as well as scenes showing brotherly affection.
Well, this might be because I’m angry at the fact that I’m saying something carefree despite Dozuru’s death.
Side 3 could be continually told to apologize and compensate forever.
I want to propose the theory that the resentment is weak because there are almost no survivors among those who were actually affected by colony drops.
The number of people killed in the setting isn’t even on the same level as Hitler, right?
>>141Because it’s several billion.
A level that is quite rare even in creative works.
It is said that all of Degwin’s children have different mothers, according to some media.
I don’t like how obvious it is that Sasuro’s death is an assassination due to Daikun’s illness.
It’s quite rare, isn’t it?
When it gets seriously to a galactic scale, we launch planet-destroying missiles! I think around 10 billion died with that one.
Although it’s common, it’s a story on a global scale.
Dozle really liked Big Zam a lot, didn’t he?
It’s big! It’s splendid! Maybe that’s what I liked.
>>153I was thinking, “What is this…?” but once I actually tried it, I liked it.
It seems that the gift from my older brother is also quite significant.
>>153I think it’s because it has overwhelming firepower, defense, and long range, so it’s more than sufficient as a weapon.
But it’s clear that if it can’t be mass-produced, there’s no point in discussing it; they definitely see the reality of the situation.
Garuma understood Gilen’s leniency towards his family.
If Sazuro is alive and Degwin has died of illness, it seems like everything would go well with everyone being friendly except for Kyshiria.
When I think of a smart Dozle, Dolph Lundgren comes to mind.
I wonder if living in space would make people want to have children excessively, given the outrageous population dynamics.
If Zeon had won, they would have killed even more, right?
Dozuru and Brother Salos resemble Deging quite a bit.
Could it be that Gihren, Kysiria, and Garma take after their mother?
Not even a portrait of the royal wife’s face is coming out.
(Kishiria looks dissatisfied, but surely she won’t attack at this crucial moment…)
Even though it’s a MA led by Gihren, it has such an impact that it gives off an image like it’s wholly Dozle’s, doesn’t it? Big Zam in Dozle.
>>161It seems like the image associated with the Tiger tank is more connected to Rommel than to Hitler.
If it’s Zieg Ax, then it’s been a cold war with Kshiria for five years.
>>162Since Gieren and Kirishia are the top two, it means Gieren has killed Degwin.
Well, of course it would lead to a Cold War.
>>169Deging is already a puppet without real power at the start of the main story, so life and death are irrelevant.
>>169Degwin is 62 years old at the time of the 1st.
Given that they overcame the major hurdle of the One Year War at that age, it’s more likely that they simply retired.
>>169If Degwin had died, Gihren would probably be called Prince instead of Commander.
Was there a route where Lala saw a dream with her youngest child Miharu?
Kissilia’s collaboration with Cas’s acts usually takes place outside of the main First series.
GQ, when you only watch the main part, strangely has a lot of emotion and feels odd… it’s funny focusing on that part.
In the game, there’s an image of the Dozul-specific Zaku, which has high melee combat, so the shooting-focused Big Zam doesn’t really match well… but I’m going to use it anyway.
If the White Base team hadn’t been there, wouldn’t things have been serious with the Big Zam?
Since battles are about numbers, please send reinforcements normally.
>>172Due to my father’s interference, we couldn’t complete the solar ray before the Solomon battle, so retreat to A Baoa Qu.
>>172If you put out numbers, you’ll be supported! You’ll hold on tight!
General Reville realized immediately upon seeing the formation that the commander was the highly capable Dozle.
>>174If I were alive, I could have entrusted Aoba Ward to you.
Well, isn’t it problematic that the commander himself has to take charge?
If Gihren attends the ceremony, I don’t think there will be any fighting, but I wonder how it will be.
I think that Kishiria, who is sweet to GQ’s chosen ones, rather reinforces the traditional image.
They were saying things like, “Why does Mallet have such maternal feelings for that purple old lady?”
If a thug pretending to be a refugee is recognized for their skills and treated politely like a cat, then of course that will happen.
Being in your 60s is still quite young for a politician.
>>184That said, the way people aged 60 lived and their health status 40 years ago are quite different from today’s 60-year-olds…
>>184Even if the fatigue level of politicians in peacetime is equated with that of politicians in wartime
Kisiria is the type of villain who surrounds weak people to increase her allies.
In GQ, it skillfully appears that both calculation and emotion are involved due to my unfavorable position.
It’s more like an extension of the image when I was surprised by being betrayed by Char.
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