Please tell me an interesting thread on the bulletin board…
Aslan is…
It seems there aren’t many people in the entire CE who can handle Aslan’s subordinates well.
Especially Aslan during a time when his mental state is not very good.
Since the chairman is no good, ZAFT is no good either.
I can’t really think of any characters who would be happy to have Aslan as their boss…
You failed the subordinate gacha first, right?
>>6Ignoring orders, moving on their own, ending up striking allies and unilaterally returning prisoners.
I’m glad to be the chairperson’s favorite; otherwise, I’d be facing a firing squad two or three times.
>>27Before that, they were extremely rude to the representative from another country, Kagari, so if Kagari is not forgiving, it would be an international issue at that point.
>>92When Minerva is thrown out of the orb, Shin really bumps shoulders with Kagari, you know?
Heine is a big hit…
Aslan is not bad either, but…
I wonder if Nicole will be able to do well… No, it might just have gone well because we were colleagues…
Era Gacha (C.E) Failed
Aslan was quite honestly attached to the chairman until things got complicated!
After the war, Asran was Shinn’s subordinate… I was worried and thinking about it.
I like that you’re shocked that we’re getting along.
It’s hard to say anything else but that we just don’t get along.
The circumstances are all too bad.
What is it to continue encountering such relentless misfortune up to this point?
It’s a strange thing, but Shin seems to have more suitability for being a boss.
It’s not that Shin is bad, but Aslan captain, your relationship with Luna and Rei wasn’t good at all either…
>>15Well, it is said in the story that Shin has always opposed those in higher positions and it hasn’t changed at all.
Luna and Aslan were just talking normally, seriously, what are they watching…?
>>15Rabid Dog Shin
Luna is flirting.
Ray, Aslan’s adversary, is the chairman’s loyal subordinate.
These guys…
I remember that when Luna tried to be friendly and talk to Ray, who loves the chairman, Ray had a really cold reaction.
>>16Be cold to those you’re not interested in.
I can’t communicate correctly even with someone I’m interested in.
>>16Because it’s on the same level as Agnes towards Kira, just like Lunamaria during that time period.
>>16I think he was avoiding women because he usually has something to do with Kagari.
>>16At first, I was confused and thought, “What are you?” but since Luna was really curious about Saber, I suggested, “If you’re that interested, why not try sitting in the cockpit?” and I’ve been fairly gentle in my response.
There’s even a possibility of failing the affiliation group gacha.
>>17Meeting Rey and Lunamaria is a good thing in itself, and I believe if Haine hadn’t died instantly, we could have become friends.
Both my captain and my boss, Aslan, are a bit much.
Lunamaria is well… it’s Lunamaria’s fault.
Until Kira intervened, we had a relatively good relationship despite the conflicts, right?
The reason Kira intervenes is asking Aslan what he’s doing in a place like that!
Arthur, unable to stand by, had Aslan explain the strategy and showcase his ability to work, highlighting a devastating trust relationship.
The organization ZAFT is pretty messed up from the start, and the people at the top are really dangerous, so it’s seriously bad.
>>22But you know, the member states that pushed it that far are also at fault.
What are you, Blue Cosmos?
If Rei says it, I may not agree, but I guess I’ll do it…
Aslan, quit being a soldier.
>>28And so, the super agent Aslan Zahra belonging to Orb was born.
From the beginning, having a military character for 50 episodes might put restrictions on the development of the story.
I wonder what would have happened if Hyne had survived as a supporter of the chairman.
>>32Just because he has a gentle personality, Heine is a completely typical natural neglecting coordinator.
>>39That person is a valuable asset just because they have a gentle personality on that ship.
>>40Rather, it would be better to have strict people since it’s a ship with loose discipline.
Someone like Natal-san.
>>39Since both Nishikawa’s voices say natural-sounding lines, I sometimes can’t tell which one is saying which line.
Since it’s a developing country, there are certainly internal complications.
It might be better that they are united under the Z.A.F.T. party.
After one term, the name Zara is just too heavy…
In the past, Shin was always snapping at his superiors, and it is said that Aslan was the only one who could make him listen properly…
>>37Because they are overly good at their studies, they probably underestimate and don’t understand that they should listen to orders.
>>53(Luna and Rei holding their heads in frustration)
>>53Your grades in the academy are the lowest among your peers, Shin.
There is an image that Luna is not bad, but also not good.
Within Minerva, it was actually thought quite a bit in the second half that that guy was being treated specially, what’s up with that?
>>41In the first place, I think it’s strange that Rey has better grades but still gets the impact.
It’s a failure of the organization’s top, not just the boss.
Originally, the plant was voluntary, right?
I understand that Izark is a politician as his main job, but what was Dearka’s main job?
>>45Aren’t those guys the ones who became soldiers directly at their age?
The coordinators with regular jobs are probably a bit older.
>>49Izark is serving as a politician in a blue outfit.
If Haine were alive, he would have put things in order, but he is the one who allowed the lack of respect for hierarchy by permitting us to call him by his name.
>>46The notion that just following orders in the previous war led to certain destruction is quite harmful to say “just get over it.”
I think you felt awkward with the mechanic kid after shooting down Meilin, right, Shin?
Conversely, it’s crazy that ZAFT is relatively lucky with Heine.
>>48I wonder how Heine would have maneuvered in the movie version if he were alive.
I do think it’s from the compass side, though.
I’m a bit worried about whether Shin will be able to get along well with Kira since he can be a bit troublesome.
>>50Ah, you were doing really well!
>>52I’m more accustomed to this than you were when you just arrived as an Archangel! (Adding insult to injury)
The rift between Rey and Aslan stems from Stella’s escape assistance.
Since then, her attitude has clearly changed.
It’s unrelated, but the thread image is quite horror.
>>54Even so, I never once get the timing wrong on the fryer instructions, and I still have that calm expression!
The face medal is definitely the problem, huh?
Aslan being called by his name without honorifics and losing because of Justice makes it so that the bratty behavior from his peak returns only during the times related to Aslan in the movie version.
Having Aslan on your side is quite a SSR.
As long as we continue to be allies…
When looked at calmly, Shin was quite a landmine, but Aslan has been watching over him all along.
>>63It’s not just considerable; it’s by far the worst landmine.
>>63I mean, I’m really worried about it…
>>68Compared to the theater and other serious moments of anger, it’s clear that even in the final match where time was short, there was a lot of care and effort put into the words used.
>>75Even though there’s no time and I’m under a mental debuff, defeating an ace pilot on the level of Shin without killing them is way harder than actually killing them, right?
>>68Shin is working hard… I need to do my best too (maybe I’ll use the simulator for the first time in a while).
>>82That interaction with The Edge was good.
>>63Aslan is really angry with Shin when Shin is basically doing something that crosses the line…
>>137As for the Freedom’s downing, Athrun was trying to leave without saying anything.
As Aslan tried to walk away, Shin called out to him and provoked him, which is why he got punched.
Even Rei, as expected, is saying that Shin who stirred things up here is also at fault.
>>147In that case, it would have been better if you hadn’t come to the hangar first.
>>156That’s too much of a nitpick.
>>157In that case, you should be openly displaying your dissatisfaction.
It’s also a stretch to say that only Shin is at fault.
>>161You haven’t seen it, have you? You’re not acting like that.
>>163It’s a scene where Shin called out because he’s doing it, right?
It was also a problem that there were many battlefields where the solo Imp was rampaging.
Fleet and Windham 50.
>>64You have a lot of energy, don’t you…
>>66I thought it was because there’s a Deutron beam… but since it was only used once in the story, I can only assume Shin is simply piloting it efficiently.
The Impreza has a structure that makes no sense, so it seems like it would be very fuel inefficient, yet it’s portrayed as one of the top battery performers in the story…
If that boss weren’t around, I’d end up having to burn my hometown.
It’s not about the boss; this guy just failed the worldview gacha.
Country gacha failure
>>73Did you just aim the gacha at the orb?
Shin is becoming overtly arrogant, but Aslan, who tries to admonish him, is also exquisitely clumsy and their compatibility is poor…
I’ve been dropped from the leading role…
This Gundam thing or whatever has only had failures in the world situation gacha, hasn’t it!?
>>79Please don’t be angry.
A story of Gundam can’t exist without times when the world situation is tumultuous.
The Lohengrin Breakthrough Operation is…
During the Zara squad, I was blessed with great members…
>>81Well, in the first half, Izark and Diakka were seriously underwhelming, right?
>>140If it’s a loss, I’ll just randomly die around the desert, so I can say it’s a win.
>>149The burden of the desert tiger!
Suddenly picking a fight with the leader of another country and unilaterally releasing prisoners makes it hard to evaluate the subordinates too.
X is at the bottom of the world view, but from here on, it can only go up slowly!
Future bright
>>86I wonder if that world can maintain civilization from now on…
Fuck modern, die.
Dance, die, Ken, die, Zangief, die, Manon, die, Gouki, die, everyone die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die.
The strength is UR, though…
If Aslan had a personality like Bright’s, he would have been hit a lot more.
It’s like potato justice or a complete failure in the mech gacha!
This makes it complicated that both Shin and Athrun acknowledge each other.
In this case, even though his best friend Rei has friendship, he is trying to tie him down to a job that is utterly unsuitable for him, and the chairman is spoiling him to use him as a pawn, so he is not blessed by those around him in the first place.
Rei was a bit hard on Aslan too.
>>97It would be troubling if the person I become attached to changes…
>>97Well, that’s just how it is.
No matter what, if someone says, “There’s no reason to defeat that guy,” I would get angry.
>>101(What the hell are you saying to the guy who shot Tannhäuser just before departure?)
>>118As the Saber was shot down, Aslan’s position started to become delicate.
I feel like those words became the decisive blow.
>>97I can’t feel positively towards Aslan, who fought alongside Kira Yamato, given my background and thoughts.
The ship I boarded was a failure.
The chairperson also had a shocked expression, which is terrible.
Talia, unable to gauge the chairman’s intentions, is holding off on her response.
Arthur, who doesn’t get angry much from the start.
Due to the matter of freedom, Aslan can’t be too assertive.
Chairman’s Dog Ray
Failed the relationship gacha!
In the first place, aside from the beginning, Shin is either constantly irritated or tense, so it’s not that Minerva’s atmosphere or the people are bad; it’s just that the atmosphere around Shin and Athrun is bad, and the surroundings have nothing to do with it.
>>104From the beginning, it seems that Talia is having trouble with Shin.
>>112It’s understandable that they want to avoid involvement as much as possible, given that dealing with ace pilots can be troublesome.
It’s not that there’s no problem with Rey, but isn’t it unlikely that an ordinary soldier would curry favor with that bat-like Aslan?
>>105It’s not limited to this thread, but there doesn’t seem to be much thought given to how the Shin side or, from a slightly ZAFT perspective, would view things.
>>114Both Luna and Meirin view Aslan as a hero, and until he escapes, he shouldn’t be treated like a bat.
>>105Wasn’t Aslan treated like a hero by the ZAFT soldiers even before the bats?
Shin doesn’t hate Aslan as much as he thought he did.
Rei dislikes Aslan more than he thought.
Aslan would do well with a type like Nicole…
From the colleague gacha perspective, the three from Dom are the lucky ones.
If Aslan isn’t there, Shin might end up in a situation worse than in the main story.
If I had to say… the script gacha…
Somehow, Aslan is a benefactor to Shin?
>>116You are truly a benefactor for me to be able to sincerely express my gratitude!
>>116That is yes.
I’m grateful that Shin stopped me as well.
>>116You’re a tremendous benefactor, you know? I’m at a point where I can say thank you for stopping me back then, just like Shin did.
Wasn’t he a hero, that “Athrun Zala”?
>>117Patrick’s rampage has been framed as a heroic act to the outside world, but the soldiers know he is someone who sided with the Orb.
The Minerva crew has a light, student-like vibe to it…
Aslan has experienced a major failure in the superior lottery in ZAFD twice…
One side is also a big failure in the parental lottery.
Speaking of which, Aslan has quite a tough parental lottery, doesn’t he?
>>126It’s the person who launches the nuclear weapon that’s bad.
Considering various factors, it can’t be helped to say that Minerva had some of the worst members in terms of Shin’s perspective, as the person’s temperament and the surrounding environment were all having a negative influence.
If I couldn’t stop myself, I would have gone crazy and killed Lunamaria…
Kruze is an SSR as a captain and isn’t behaving strangely towards Aslan.
On the contrary, it’s an understanding boss who says, “Is your friend the Strike pilot? Isn’t it tough? I’ll take you off the tracking mission.”
>>130Aren’t you worried about your fiancé? I asked, and I told him it’s fine to borrow from AA while being out of the front lines. As a boss, he has a pretty normal sense of things…
>>130It’s often said, but I think it won’t be out of consideration; it will just end up with Patrick shooting Aslan, just like when I said that.
Isn’t the term “parent lottery” too heavy when parents can manipulate their children’s settings in a CE?
>>132I failed the child gacha, so I’m going to discard it to the circus.
Since I’m participating in breaking the Junius Seven, isn’t it that the general public doesn’t have such negative feelings towards Aslan? Is it tough?
>>133Right after escaping from the chairman, Aslan Zala will still be a hero once everything is resolved.
>>133This is Alex Dino.
The escape itself was initiated by Rei whispering to the chairman, which Mia then informed him about, so I don’t understand why the escape is being spoken of negatively.
>>135I didn’t intend to betray until just before it was almost certain I would be taken care of, so it’s quite a predicament.
There are aspects where Aslan’s expectations, worries, and unreliable nature helped to draw out talent.
The eye color is different! (Failed the child gacha)
Aslan Zara is a global hero.
I wonder if that gacha is also messing with genetics…
The cause of the bad air in Minerva is the chairman’s fault.
>>150The captain doesn’t seem very interested in the crew…
>>160It just gets strange when you bring someone like Maryuu into the comparison.
I think they are doing quite well considering they were pushed onto the overbearing Ace Chairperson who constantly breaks orders.
>>171Even though they are achieving results, there are so many mistakes being made that it’s surprising there are no repercussions, and yet they are getting carried away.
I don’t want to touch it, Shin…
>>171As a middle manager, I really appreciated that Aslan was following my instructions.
Even though I’m in a position where I can be forgiven for wandering around with my saber.
>>187Since it’s a face, give me the impulse! I’ll go out with the impulse! It’s okay, right Aslan…?
>>160In the first place, Shin is quite troublesome, and I think aside from the Angel Down, everyone around felt grateful for Aslan.
>>150That’s true.
This aspect of this guy wasn’t good… Even when talking about it, I keep hearing, “But wasn’t it the chairman who encouraged that?” “But if we’re talking about the root cause, isn’t it the chairman?” Enough already!
In the part about the freedom being shot down, I can somewhat understand Shin’s feelings about defeating the enemy being nothing wrong, as well as Aslan’s feelings of having been defeated by none other than Kira’s subordinate whom he cares for, and that makes it quite painful.
Shin seems to really like Aslan during their cooperation, as seen in the novel version, so after the Saber is heavily damaged, there’s a strong sense of him taking it out on Aslan by saying not to show such a pathetic side.
>>152In the beginning, Shin’s straightforwardness towards Aslan, despite everything, was because he respected Aslan’s strength.
It was lost after being bonanza-ed.
It may seem that way, but there are also comments urging you to stay strong, so I’m still smoldering.
Aslan wasn’t that bad of a boss, but things just went too far in various negative directions.
It seemed like you were worried, as if you were looking at your past self, but even though Aslan put effort into his words, they were misaligned, and Aslan himself was overly anxious about his relationship with Kagari and the phantom of his father. He finally found some calmness around the time he became a hermit, so it feels like he was only able to convey everything right at the very end.
Shin’s frustration with Aslan comes from something like, “You are actually an incredibly amazing person, so what is with this current state?!”
>>158A bit like Camille…
>>158You’re strong!
They are enemies that we should defeat!
What’s wrong with killing?!
From Shin’s perspective, it’s like this.
You understood after the war that while it’s not wrong, that way won’t work.
It feels like Saber was mostly just playing with Chaos…
>>159There are only Shin and Aslan who can fly, and since Shin keeps moving forward on his own, Aslan…
But I still think the chairman who dispatched Minerva, who put in the effort to stop BTW, is skilled at managing things.
Given Aslan’s personality, he won’t be abandoned and will slowly return to ZAFT’s Aslan Zala.
Hearing the gossip about Aslan and Rei was a mistake.
>>162Without this, even while harboring doubts, I was planning to continue with ZAFT until the defeat of Logos, so the fish I missed is truly too big.
>>162Furthermore, convince Aslan through Izak Diakka.
“Are you just going to do nothing in front of Nicole’s grave? What can you do staying here in Orbe like this? Come back!”
This works.
Since Shin is the protagonist, viewers might think Aslan should be more supportive of him, but from Aslan’s perspective, he’s not in a situation or mental state where he can afford to care about Shin that much.
Did you get a bit jealous when you found out that Shin and Kira were getting along really well?
The topic has completely been taken over by Aslan, so I might not have wanted to make him my boss…
You would think that even Aslan as a pilot would die if he used Destiny and Legend against just one Gouf, right?
If I don’t use the tactic of jumping into the enemy’s formation with 50 high-spec Windams and making them fight each other, I’m gonna die!
It’s tough that the best cushioning material died so quickly.
>>175I feel like, given Heine’s stance, it might not have been that way after all.
Failed the boss gacha.Go back and look at Seed Destiny.
It’s like whenever the topic of Shin and Rei being bad comes up, the conversation quickly turns to how those two are just too much of a problem child.
It’s amusing how things tend to head towards discussing the issues with Kira and Athrun, but it gets quickly shut down.
I don’t know which gacha to pull in order for Shin to have a better ending than in the main story by the time the Seed of the Dead ends.
>>183If I hadn’t met Stella…
In that case, it ends with falling into darkness during the Freedom’s Black Knights battle.
Heine also ultimately looks down on natural people, and Aslan has the mindset of not wanting to fight with Orb, so it probably wouldn’t change much even if Heine were alive.
Bad mistakes and pure performances come alternately near the orb.
Talia’s stomach is dying.
Kira and Athrun were already being criticized to death at the time of the broadcast…
>>189Therefore, it is only natural that this time ZAFT (mainly the Chairman) becomes the side that gets beaten up.
This is the chain of hatred, right, Kira?
Shin bites back → It feels like Aslan responds with a lot of sarcasm.
It’s true that Shin is at fault, but…
Aslan, being older and a captain, doesn’t behave in an ideal way like in an anime at all.
>>190A mother-in-law or father figure who tends to be nagging and critical.
>>197When you get close or acknowledge someone, Aslan tends to act like that.
>>199When you develop feelings, it becomes annoying to be nagging a bit…
>>203Well, the reason it gets harsh is that there’s a part of it where I’m being spoiled, just like Shin.
In that sense, they are a good match, but they are fundamentally incompatible.
>>203I think it’s amazing how the character remains consistent from plain to freedom.
>>199I am aware that I’m not good at socializing, so I generally try to keep my distance from people.
It is often said that the attitude towards Shin in the movie version was positive, but even just looking at Seed Destiny, there is a stark contrast between the cold treatment towards Luna and the response towards Shin.
Considering the success of the overarching destiny plan, Ray is mostly doing unnecessary things.
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