
Cicero
My hand is a Geon.
To be honest, the original Cicero is cooler.
>>2The original Cicero only exists in Zikakus.
The thread image is just a fan-made design from secondary creation.
>>4Oh, is that so?
Is this guy officially recognized in the first place?
This is a personal work based on the design of G Generation.
There is a design without a setting.
Based on that, I have also appeared in G Gene.
>>7It should be a model of a game piece from the board game released by Tsukuda, not an original setting.
That model is just a reuse since it is exactly the same as the Psycommu High Mobility Test Type Zaku.
Was it a creative Gunpla from the very beginning?
The shoulder beam cannon looks just like a Yakult container, so it’s easy to understand.
In G Generation, is it positioned as the prototype Zong?
>>9Wasn’t that the role of the Z-type or the Octopus Zaku?
>>127The development lineage of the PS era is roughly Green Takozaku → White Takozaku → Kikerog → Zeong.
It seems there are cases where even the design wasn’t set, and I can find that out when I look it up, but was there a design that was discarded?
Can G Generation Original be considered fan fiction?
>>11It’s correct to call it a derivative work.
>>13If you say that, then Zeke Axe is also fan fiction, right?
People who think they were mocked when it comes to fan creations…
It was a setting that wasn’t used, and G Generation picked it up.
The original design is completely the same as the psychommu test type Zaku in the board game.
The manual also states, “Since the actual shape is unknown, it is completely original.”
>>16In other words… it means Tsukuda Original, right?
>>16That’s true, but…
That’s different.
In the Tomino Memo, it’s only written as a Blau-Bro type MS…
Wasn’t it that something like a Tomino note had a design of Kike Roga that was published as an unused design?
>>18Are you mistaking it for something like Agugai?
You must be a fundamentalist who can’t tolerate MSV either.
It is unclear what the principle is based on.
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The guy in the thread is based on the example from Gundam Weapons: Red Comet Edition.
The CG created by this person looks similar to the model, but the angle in the thread image is different.
It seems that something posted somewhere has spread.
It feels like it’s not as wrapped in mystery as the Dijeh SE-R.
If the Zeong is the “G” of Zeon, then the Kikeleg is the “G” of Kikele.
In other words, it wouldn’t be unusual to have a gap between 〇〇〇 and the others.
If you have a choice between the game original and the anime that was aired on TV, the latter is indeed more official.
Was the Zaku Z type really that looks?
The Zong might appear under the name Z Gundam.
It’s amazing that G Gen was able to pick this up…
>>29It feels like there are quite a few comics that fit into the G Gene original category.
>>33The Kikero-G appearing in F is not treated as a frame like the original machine, but as an actual existing MS.
Yakult… It was you…
It said it was a Blaubro-like MS, so I made it a Kikero!
In an era where variations that were only featured in old magazines for boys, like F90FF, are treated as official, saying that game originals shouldn’t count really feels like the mindset of a cranky old-timer from the past.
The G Generation does not list the works it features.
It’s not even an original model, so many people were wondering what this design is.
I thought there was a rough draft by Tomino, and that’s what it was based on.
There was nothing, huh?
It seems that there was a time when G Generation was really going all out, but this guy hasn’t been released.
>>38The attribution is questionable…
>>38What’s going on with Tsukuda Hobby? If they get mad, I can’t argue back…
>>47Well, now Tsukuda Original has been acquired by Bandai Namco and is just one brand within Bandai Namco.
It could be said that I can release it now.
>>47It seems that the business was bankrupt and transferred to Bandai (and Mega House), so that part might be safe.
>>53The period when it became no longer just a formality is after F.I.F and since SEED, it should be possible to present it after the merger and acquisition.
Well, it is a complicated situation, and there are also limitations on the number of aircraft models, so they probably don’t want to implement it actively…
>>38It’s a machine that’s only able to apologize if it gets jabbed as hard as a high-mobility Gym Custom.
>>55Is something wrong with this guy…? I like him, though…
>>62Originally one of the examples of the MG Jim Custom published in a Hobby Japan mook.
Bandai has nothing to do with this, but it heavily infringes on copyright because the Jim Custom belongs to Bandai Namco.
We both pretend not to see it.
Cicero was written in the notes, but…
There is no design, and all I know is that it’s the machine that Char will pilot at the end, equivalent to the Ziroc.
>>39Wasn’t the last aircraft we would board the Galaba?
>>39There should also be notes related to Brau and Bro.
I love the original MS that appear in G Gen and Nobunaga’s Ambition.
>>40It’s cliché, but Zanspine is really good, isn’t it?
I heard an interesting story about something I thought was the original being turned upside down.
This one also has a pretty rough upbringing, similar to Higyō.
If you don’t like fan fiction, then it’s fine to consider it an original MS from the game.
I like the name Tsukuda Original.
>>49Super! Exciting! Right?
>>61(It has) appeared in Zikakusu!
Upon closer inspection, the leg part of the board game is Garbaldy α.
Everyone likes the Casval-specific Gundam, right?
I also became an MG.
>>51It’s too convenient that all I have to do is change the color.
The G Generation model is not based on the thread image, so the thread image itself can only be said to be unofficial.
It seems like the shape of the face and legs might be different too.
>>54The order is already reversed because the examples were created during the time when Cicero was appearing in G-Gen, and this is a fan work based on that.
Is it like an unconfigured cleanup of me?
The GT-Four also appeared in G Generation F.
I like both the Char’s Custom and the Gelgoog Shield’s captured Gundam.
Not just the first generation, but many of the rejected designs from other series are interesting as well.
>>46I looked it up, but Namuwiki is an overseas site, isn’t it?
>>64That is the reprint destination.
The article about Kikeroga on Gundapedia disappeared a long time ago, and only the images have scattered across various places.
I expect Gihren to show up in the super giant battle weapon Gigant when I go for the assassination.
Is the High Mobility Gym Custom the first one from the model paper’s example?
>>69Yes
It seems like it’s written as if there was some kind of problem.
After slightly changing the design from that HJ example, the same person has again published an example in HJ based on the G Gen design after it appeared in G Gen, so there’s nothing particularly about ignoring it.
It looks like a gym class that has something like FB…
The High Mobility Type Jim Custom’s creator was happy to have it featured in G Generation!
They said there was no contact either.
The suspicion that there might be other aircraft like that suddenly intensified.
It’s amazing that the idea of picking up lost MS (Microsoft points) had already existed back in the era when board games were being released.
I thought I could ask here, so I’m asking, what is Dwas?
>>77The standard Dwad is non-existent, only the modified Dwad exists; when the Rick Dom was modified, it became heavier and its mobility decreased, leading to a test machine.
>>83Is that such a sad existence?
>>77It was a unit that only had a name listed in the Gundam model kit manual, with no other details.
I remember feeling that the setting was explored further in the web project later on.
I want to see a perfect Giong that fights like Cicero from Zeke Axes.
I thought it was a lower version of wireless, but the wired psychoframe is amazing!
F has been so fulfilling that it has contributed to the increase in the visibility of minors.
There’s also the guilt of raising its profile to the point where it misleads people into thinking things like thread images and GTFOUR, which shouldn’t originally be highlighted, are official.
The age has been too carefree.
>>79Was there some kind of problem? GT-FOUR
>>79In G Generation up to ZERO, they actually spelled Zeon as “ZION,” which was seriously crazy…
It was changed to “ZEON” after becoming F.
>>90This is bad (in terms of international issues).
>>93What survived was extinguished by the inner fire, which overshadowed the external blaze.
I think that during the F era, the people at Tom Create were swamped with work and didn’t have the luxury to make detailed confirmations.
It seems that there were some cases where they managed to erase it just in time, like with Z-Plutonium…
I wonder how to classify whether the characters that appeared in G Generation are G Generation originals, MSV, or Tsukuda originals?
A Gundam with a name like a sports drink also has an inexplicable level of popularity.
It’s logical to make good use of the Full Burnian’s backpack, and you can’t help but think that if Banning was riding it, he would have beaten Shima.
Whether the creator of Tsukuda holds the rights or Sunrise holds the rights.
It might just be that the rights have never been clearly established.
From Sunrise’s perspective, even if it’s a rights-safe situation, it’s an unofficial setting, so they would likely be cautious about its use.
If you don’t put a Yakult on the Bishop, it might look like it came out later than the Ziong.
Doras is not unofficial; it was just featured in old plastic model instruction manuals.
Since that plastic model was no longer reprinted, no one could refer to the original settings.
I don’t really understand GT-FOUR, but since it’s not listed in the setting materials, it seems to be less official than Double Fake.
What is officiality?
Isn’t the spelling of Zeon not just from G Generation but from the entire Gundam content?
The fact that the official side is occasionally adopting fan works as canon adds to the confusion even more.
>>96Anahaim, Vic Veyliton, and Zeonic
The names of companies that appear in the Universal Century were also reverse-imported from doujinshi of that time, right?
Seriously cool.
I wonder if Mobile Suit Gundam: Battle Operation is the only game where you can pilot the Dozle Zabi’s custom mobile suit, the Dawas Kai, in Gundam history.
It’s hard to come up with an explanation for UNT SPACY that can be confirmed in the video.
>>100I think UnderNormalTactical SPecialAssortmentConstructionYard is really trying too hard.
I think it was from MG Alex 1.0.
Wasn’t there something like Drowas Kai-Kai as an enemy in AOZ?
>>101One of the designs of Rick Dom Stutzer features a Dova motif.
It looks like they released a sample that hasn’t confirmed any yield ratio at all in G Generation…
It’s an example from before the MG Jimka was released.
For some reason, the Correl has become a mono-eye type around F.
Even though GT-FOUR and D Gundam are allowed, ninjas and magical girls are not, so there must be some kind of criteria for what can appear in G Generation.
>>106Just one step away from the Moon Crisis.
I was shocked to find out that Netix, who I thought definitely came from an unknown side story, is actually original to G Generation.
I think it’s clearly the key aircraft of the work!
>>109It’s a better example because it was picked up in a side story and properly made official.
I thought, where’s the Zaku in the Zaku 50? But I didn’t dislike its appearance.
I just noticed that in the rough sketch Ishigaki showed earlier, the Zaku’s head is expressed up to the chest area where the pipes are connected.
>>111I liked that vague sense of having passed that much time.
The exhibit is the High Mobility Type Jim Custom, properly under Gundam Weapons.
I wish they had just released something like Las Veto β on their own.
I think the only content in Japan where the official and fan-made mix this much is Gundam.
>>114In foreign countries, Star Trek is the leading one, right?
Anaheim is a setting created by the official side.
The origin of the doujinshi is from Zeonic Company and other Zeon-related companies.
It was only after being republished in the commercial magazine Gundam Century that it became official, so it hasn’t been that chaotic.
Regarding the GT-FOUR, well, it’s the first appearance, but…
If you just Google “GT-FOUR,” I think you’ll somewhat understand that issues will arise…
>>116Zakspeed!
>>122Aren’t there a lot of names related to car stuff like “Silhouette Formula”?
>>145F1 was popular, after all.
>>152Thunder Impulse, here I come!!
>>161Isn’t it terrible that it only looks like Sena?
>>152Senna! Prost! Schumacher!
The champion of MS Racing!!
>>145In the first place, it comes from the fact that F1 was popular…
>>156Isn’t GT-FOUR and silhouette formula unrelated to F1?
Zakspeed is related.
>>116You can’t make excuses for copying both the name and the design! That’s not good!
It might be that model information has less chaotic licensing compared to cyber comics.
I was surprised that GT-FOUR used to be a toy that was released as part of a food product.
I can barely understand D Gundam, but you too…?
Wasn’t the MS from the Pezun project also a reuse from Tomino’s notes?
I think the people who created such an elaborate sci-fi setting for Gencury at that time are admirable and that it is a great foundation, but I also wonder about the confusion that was born from the limits of general otaku knowledge at that time, which has continued with some elements unchanged.
>>125It’s about time for the 50th anniversary of Gundam, so I think it would be good to take the opportunity and reconstruct the settings once.
The foundation is already shaky to continue illegal construction.
There are quite a few kids who mistake the fan-made illustrations that are being spread around like MSVbot for official ones.
Whether it’s spelled “Tsimad” or “Tsimat” is still not unified…
Doras was definitely established in the new instructions for the painted version of the old kit Dom as the base model for Rick Dias, and the back illustration was also released.
And so, without being touched for a long time, it recently appeared as the modified Dwadis brought in by the Quattro’s faction from Axis in the project called Anaheim Laboratory Logs.
I found this as the only thing when I searched online.
Full Color Model G Gundam 1/144 SCALE Official Data No.1 MS-09 Dom MS-R09 RICK DOM Zeon Army – Space Combat Heavy Mobile Suit Rick Dom The Rick Dom is visually distinguished by the reinforced thrusters in the waist and legs based on the ground combat Dom! In addition, there are other production variations in the mobile suit line. MS-09S Dom – The final production model of the MS-09 series. It was developed with enhanced thruster output in the backpack, aimed at assault combat. However, only those who have experienced battle can pilot it, leading to the total of Rick Dom. COCKPIT Development Background The Zeon Army was in urgent need of MS designed for the ground battlefront, focusing on the performance of MS. The form of MS was examined. The movement speed of the MS Zaku was only 160 km/h, which did not meet expectations on the battlefield, leading to the need for improved ground combat suppression.
In the original magazine, there are questionable mobile suits like Gundam Mk-III, but I wonder how characters like Igrel and Harpyurei are being handled now.
Even in the cyber comics genre, the top Gundam was certainly not adopted.
Honestly, I don’t understand why Mobile Fighter G Gundam can participate but Ninja can’t.
It was just the author’s problem.
>>135If I bring out the ninja, Char will become a superhuman…
GT-FOUR had PIAA’s sponsor logo written in the color art of that time, which would definitely be unacceptable now, and it’s laughable.
Gundam succeeded by incorporating secondary creation settings! It was written in explanations from a while ago, but originally, that’s just about the book “Gunsite” that Studio Nue was involved with.
After that, there is only the pattern where the official gets lured by the notes copied from other analytical doujinshi or personal site settings on the internet and becomes officialized.
It’s a bit much to have mobile suits that transform and engage in intense aerial combat during the One Year War…
There are plenty of cases where car names are used as-is, so honestly, it’s not that critical.
>>140In the manga version of V Gundam, Schumacher and the others had their names changed, and it’s quite clear what lines are being deemed unacceptable.
I think there was just enough reason to transform it into an airplane instead of a car.
The Great Zeong must have also been inspired by rejected concepts.
The Turn X is actually what the Gyan wanted to be.
The Sentinel was also recreated in the story in G Generation F.
After that, the mobile suits can be used, but the characters can’t be used anymore, which must be really complicated…
>>143It should have been usable in Genesis.
There is no scenario.
Zakspeed really had a racing team called “Fast Zaku” that was conveniently fast.
The RX-78 is originally a work that comes from the RX-7.
I am just an ordinary person with no issues, looking like this official Dj variations DJ SER.
I like the design of Munkura, although the story doesn’t really align with the current UC developments.
>>151Rather, it’s that Matsuura Masafumi has various bad topics, making it difficult to touch on…
>>155I see…
Sad…
>>155At least on the bulletin board, I probably won’t be forgiven for a lifetime…
>>165Not especially…
>>172If you don’t know the background, then that’s fine for you…
>>181I know, but it doesn’t really matter.
The Great Zeong has quite a bit of Granzon elements, but I feel a bit of darkness.
I wonder if the Great Zeong will be featured in a side story.
I like that.
>>154It’s frustrating that even though the name is Great in English, the attack name is Ziebenangriff, which is clearly German.
Well, the performance of the Digé SER is completely unknown, but it seems that it has been decided for quite some time which category it will be placed in…
I wonder what would have happened if they had released Moon Crisis…
>>158I’m currently delving into the era of Moon Crisis, so I’m glad I didn’t pick it up at that time…
>>174The main character machine is set to be built for the first time in 8 years for TMS, starting with Munkura’s 0098.
In Gundam UC, by the year 0097, a large number of Rezel units are already being mass-produced and deployed…
The design of the F91 also incorporates elements from F1, such as the body.
The influence of the supercar boom, the F1 boom, and Top Gun on robot anime is very significant.
Kikero is considered to be of the same rank as the original game book machine.
Is that game book being reprinted recently?
>>164Was it a story about Zaku mechanics chasing a traitor in Africa?
Unlike F91, which has a vague element of F1,
The design around the GT-FOUR is so blatant that it can be called a transformation of the actual car into merchandise.
You’re completely ignoring the settings of 1st and Z, so of course it won’t be picked up…
The F1 cars from the time when they had rich personalities are cool.
Since F1 is popular and it’s 1991 for Formula, I think F91 is just an overly simplistic name.
When I was a child, I thought the dedicated MA for Lalah Sune had a strange product name.
It’s just like F91 or a full-on formula.
The last appearance of Masafumi Matsuura that I saw was him in the Moon Gundam.
Not limited to robot anime, it has had an incredible impact on Japanese anime up until the 1990s.
Professional wrestling
The person who started a fight on the forum called “Hara Erisun” is said to be another name for Masafumi Matsuura.
I’m personally skeptical since the source has never come up even once.
Matsuura is a bit of a troublesome person in a certain way, though.
>>180The person mentioned it on their site, but since it’s on Geocities, it got deleted.
Zetsu is also being released…
The designer said that Gio’s breasts are sticking straight to the back of a Porsche.
Riggazii Custom with an AK…
Is the F1 community strict about that kind of thing?
The Perfect Zeong, which seems to be coming out in various forms as if it’s a given, turns out to be quite an ambiguous existence when you dig deeper.
>>186Perfect Gundam too…
>>186It’s Plamo Crazy Shiro, but…
>>193The design with feet has been there since the broadcast began.
The trend of attaching legs to Dom has been popular even before it appeared in manga.
The originality of Plamo Kyoshiro is just the name “Perfect Zeong.”
The Command Gundam also reflects the trends of the time.
>>187Is the Red Beret Gundam also a reflection of current trends?
>>187Once you step into SD, it just keeps coming out infinitely…
>>192I create chimeras by mixing the base elements, trendy items, and everything else…
>>187It’s about the Hyakushiki Kai, right?
>>187It’s become completely different from Commando, so I’m glad reason is in control.
I feel that, despite having many references to other works, there aren’t many that completely cross the line.