The image is a bad one.
Stop coming out with the Croze.
However, you are a traitorous coordinator.
>>2Why are you in the Earth Army!
You’re a coordinator, right?
I don’t have any good memories…
Just because you’re a coordinator…
I don’t have any good memories…
I guess that’s also about messing with genes…
It’s amazing how unaware discriminatory remarks from friends in the early stages can be.
>>9The lack of self-awareness makes it all the more deeply rooted.
>>10The fact that it’s an unconscious-level comment is insane.
Still!
People only know what they themselves are aware of!
What Kira knows when told to come out is that.
I was told terrible things by the pilot I saved… and then he died…
>>13It would have been quicker to kill (them)…
>>15You say you helped, but Freedom is the one attacking.
Frey is an outright unpleasant person.
The rhino is an unconsciously terrible guy.
Thor is a guy who takes friendship seriously.
Kazi is a terrible gossip.
There’s no one left but Millia!
>>14So, a pinch of Diakka.
>>22(I feel like I’ve had a change of heart…)
Was the punishment really that awful…?
>>16Not being aware of using discriminatory language is more cruel than saying it voluntarily.
It’s precisely because I have nothing but shitty memories that there is still a world I want to protect! That’s what makes it precious…
>>17It’s precisely because I realize it’s a shitty world that I say “still!”
It would have really helped if my friends had come down from the Archangel at Mach speed…
That is more of a vice of the rhinoceros than anything else.
I think it’s a way of thinking that is universally rooted throughout the entire Cosmic Illa world.
From Kira’s perspective, it’s just a comment from Sai.
Isn’t it something like saying that Black people are good at sports here?
>>23If it’s a difference in race, there might still be some uncontrollable aspects, but since it’s the result of genetic manipulation…
Well, honestly, you can’t really tell where a coordinator is adjusting things.
I feel like the maintenance guy also said some pretty terrible things without being aware of it.
>>29Why have you been killing so much until now…?
>>30This statement is really terrible for Kira, who doesn’t want to kill…
>>29Even Mr. Murdoch made a slip of the tongue like saying it’s okay for Kira, who is still in a civilian state, to stay here.
It has been a series of events that have constantly affected my mental state.
It’s really terrible that I’m fighting to prevent my friend from getting killed, but that friend chooses to stay on the ship out of goodwill.
>>34Well, if we had gotten off the ship, everyone would have died…
>>36If you look at it from a mean perspective, if Kira had gotten off there, Izaku might not have taken out his frustrations on the shuttle at all since he wouldn’t have been able to launch the Strike.
>>34Didn’t the director say that it’s not just good intentions, but also the calculation that by doing this, Kira will protect them?
>>37Wasn’t that the “You’re coming back, right?!” moment when returning to Lux?
Freya stayed because she had ulterior motives.
The lack of understanding that killing someone is undesirable regardless of being good or bad is the same for the viewers.
>>35At that time, I was heavily criticized for saying things like being prepared to kill someone and being a hypocrite.
>>38Isn’t it harsh for a child still in their teens?!
>>38Suddenly tell the boy who had been living as a student to continue fighting aboard the military’s latest aircraft.
You only have one veteran pilot on your side, but the aircraft performance is always better with you, so you need to do your best. Come on, kill the enemy quickly!
If this continues even after coming down to Earth, and carries on to the end of a violent fight with my best friend, anyone would end up mentally crushed.
How many years do you think it will take to heal this?
>>52It’s so sad that because of this, no matter how many years pass, I became unable to rely on others and tried to bear everything by myself.
>>56Even though I moved up in rank because I’m Kagari’s brother, I don’t know anything about managing people!
There, first, Frey said that she would stay on the ship to keep having Kira fight against the Coordinator, and her friends said, “If Frey is staying, then I’ll stay too!”
I can understand how Frey feels about his father being killed…
In the early stages, it wouldn’t have been strange to run away from the Archangel if it were on the ground.
>>43Are you going to abandon your friends and run away?
Today’s internet is ugly, where if you can’t kill someone you’re called a “coward,” and if you do kill someone, you’re cursed as a “murderer!”
>>44I’m stuck in a dead end…
>>44Head CE
Even when the reconnaissance Zaku is just before picking up Lacus from the wreckage of Junius Seven, if it had been noticed by the allied work pod, it could have taken it out with a rifle shot. This means that it’s not just fighting along the flow, but decisions to kill for the sake of protection can be made from the beginning.
That aside, the mental burden is simply large.
Just like how the otaku has aged and come to accept Kira’s weaknesses, will Machu’s rampage eventually be viewed positively too?
The reason Frey ended up like that is because of her father’s death…
Kira participated in the battlefield of his own will after riding the Freedom.
It was a long time until then, but I had been constantly caught up in it.
The Gundam protagonists often have events where they make tough decisions early on, so it might have been hard to see Kira’s sensitivity.
>>50Moreover, it’s like my friend is being taken hostage.
The army doctor of the archangel lacks delicacy too!
It’s strange that there are fewer Gundam protagonists who willingly try to exterminate everyone, yet they continue to be heavily criticized.
>>53Well, if I let her out like, “Alright, I’ll let you out!” she doesn’t get hit as much.
It feels like a re-evaluation has progressed due to watching it again after 10 years with a remaster.
The reason Thor and the others decided to stay was because Frey said she would stay.
It’s a gamble to leave Kira behind.
Back then, I was just a kid, so I thought Strike was really cool! Freedom was really cool too! I wasn’t paying attention to the story or anything.
I wonder how old the people who were hitting Kira at that time are now.
>>62I have a memory of someone criticizing the 1st Gundam for various reasons, so they must be quite old by now…
>>62Could it be that about half of them are dead?
It’s because you’re weak! I couldn’t say such words in an environment where there are MS pilots like Aslan and Shin, who are at least as strong and reliable as I am…
>>64So don’t be weak like this, rely on me and I’ll beat you up.
It’s a work that has created a large number of new Gundam fans.
It’s not a work meant to satisfy the bellies of ancient Gundam otaku.
Kira’s first seed rupture was triggered when he got really angry, right?
>>67It should have been activated with “The Archangel is in danger!” at first.
>>67Wasn’t it because the evacuation shuttle was dropped?
>>73It’s when the archangel took a lot of damage.
Izark sustained a wound to his face in that battle.
>>73In the battle before that, AA was in a pinch, activated SEED, and injured Izaku.
Because Izark became obsessed, I was dropped.
It’s not surprising that there was criticism during the time of odd military intervention in “Seed Destiny.”
The confusion is severe.
>>68I only got involved because Kagari mentioned that thing related to the orb, but I didn’t intervene indiscriminately…
>>75If you want to stop, just go back to the orb.
When I get back, I’ll probably be confined.
>>83So, Kirara got angry at Aslan who only kept saying to return to the orb.
An ancient Gundam otaku is just a creature that will keep bashing new works for a lifetime!!
>>70Look! The number of response battles happening in this Machu thread!!
>>74That’s what a person is, Nameless-kun.
Let’s make SEEEEEED too!
>>72If they had succeeded in capturing the five Gundams at the beginning.
The extinction of humanity, huh…
>>77A timeline where Rusty survives and Aslan dies.
>>72Kira is evacuating normally with Thor and the others.
Ms. Mary died in battle.
All Gundams are going to ZAFT.
…Isn’t this the end of the alliance?
>>84In official history, if Genesis is brought up, there’s no chance of winning, so it’s okay.
Let’s open the last door and wipe out humanity after all!
It’s nice that only Maryu has been feeling sorry for Kira from the beginning until FREEDAM…
>>81Well then, take care, Kira-kun…
Huh? Why aren’t you getting off?
>>82(Alright, let’s go! Do it, Natal)
>>81Maybe it would have been good to let it happen just once.
>>88The development of trying to soften someone up with the body has already been done, hasn’t it…
>>88Major…
Aslan’s argument that what you should be doing isn’t this kind of thing, but rather preventing the treaty, is correct, and Kira says the same thing. However, it’s also painful that Kira is right in saying that the chairman can’t do anything because there are the coordinator unit that came to kill Lacus and the fake Lacus.
>>90In the end, Aslan didn’t investigate anything about the Lakus attack…
>>90When you think about it, the fake Lacus is truly a terrible destruction of dignity…
>>90While it’s true that the argument is valid, Kaghari lacks the strength to push it away, especially without anyone nearby to support her.
Aslan should understand that too…
Kira must know too, but someone has to say it, so Kira will say it.
Well, it’s like a Gundam made by Zeon in the official history, and it’s super strong with nuclear power!
It seems like SEEDif could lead to a scenario where there were no attacks from the Unius Seven.
The scene of descending to Earth would have been a big problem if Strike hadn’t launched, but if they had managed to survive by luck, they could have gone straight to Alaska, so it’s not necessarily true that Kira staying behind was a good thing.
Rakus might be like a kind mother who serves up heaping servings of fried chicken.
>>95I don’t know which one is the real me because there are mysterious girl mode, female warrior mode, and home mode.
But well, if it’s love, then that’s fine!
>>110I think that’s the result of trying to cover up something because Halo unlocked something dangerous…
>>110Surprisingly, any of them might be the real Lux.
>>110I guess all of them are really just one side of Lux.
>>130I think the mysterious girl is a complete cat pretender.
Aslan is also surprised.
>>138It’s not really that way; there are quite a few genuine aspects too.
>>130Natural! Bold! Maternal!
Italian Mamma!
If it weren’t for the assassination squad, they would have come to the plant right in my territory.
>>96If you come, the Klein faction will support you, and the chairman will be troubled.
I won’t be able to use Mii to guide anymore.
Was Freedom Justice developed based on the stolen Gundam data? But if so, that means the development period would be incredibly short, right?
>>98There’s no point in worrying about that in Gundam!
>>98If we delve into the speed of species development, it would never end, so let’s leave that be…
>>102At the point of the Universal Century…
Considering that Kagari could only cry after being confronted with what seemed like reasonable arguments in a situation where she had no one to rely on, after Aslan, who was one of the few allies she trusted privately, left, it’s understandable that she would be furious.
At that point, the Orb couldn’t fend off the alliance and couldn’t be trusted, so it was in a hopeless situation.
Humanity will not be destroyed.
Because I originally intended to end the war with a spit break.
Destroying only weapons on the battlefield feels even more cruel than killing! That’s how it felt here.
>>105Shut up! Killing someone makes me feel awful! I don’t care about what happens after! I wish you would just say that!
>>115There are still many cases where it’s just the person’s arrogant selfishness.
It seems that after everything has settled down, even during the time of the movie, when Accord was fired up saying that Corde is definitely the dominant species, everyone went “Whoa!!!”…
>>107Weren’t there quite a few people who didn’t get into it in the movies?
If Clouzot were fighting with all his might for the plant!
What if the Cruze squad had captured all five Gs?
…Normally, the plant will just win overwhelmingly, right?
>>111If they were in an advantageous position, they wouldn’t bother creating the NJC, so Kreuz can’t launch a nuclear attack, and normally ZAFT would win and it would be over…
>>111The feeling is that after being roasted by the Cyclops, weakening the influence within the Federation and allowing the rise of Burkos, Kruze would want to see beyond that, triggering the Orichalcum and ultimately starting the extinction war.
What’s important when copying is the content rather than the appearance.
If all the numbers on the dice thrown by Kruzé look good, let’s make it a route.
>>116Could that possibly be the main story of the seed?
>>117Isn’t it the last one or something?!
>>116Neutron jammer canceller!
This could allow us to restore the Earth, and we might be able to threaten with a nuclear attack to bring about a ceasefire in our favor!
The rejoicing lord king?
It’s not like the trendy NTs, right? Kira seems to have developed spatial awareness a lot too, so is it something similar?
When there’s some leeway, everyone is trying to fight without killing the opponent, just like in Tomino’s works…
If you kill someone, that’s the end of it, but if they’re still alive, there are still options, so while it’s unlikely to turn out well…
Lacus is natural, but she has the sensibility of an ordinary girl, and on top of that, she was concerned about the future of the Earth Alliance.
Although they are excellent as a pilot, they cannot transmit or receive thoughts.
I wonder if it’s like a super pilot compared to the X-rounder in later works.
You don’t have any psychic abilities, but you can move like you have eyes on the back of your head, right, Kira?
In the first place, occult skills are super rare in CE…
Rakus has been criticized for being in a good position to retire and for secretly plotting to control the plant with a hidden agenda.
It is a mistake for capable and exceptional beings to retire; they should rule the world alongside outstanding companions.
>>135That’s too bad.
I’m still alive.
When Orphe is bothering Lux in the movie.
It seems like there are indications that suggest some sort of intuition, so I don’t think they completely lack any NT-type or Accord-like qualities.
I have no spiritual sensitivity.
>>136On the contrary, what is Shin?
Director Fukuda was harsh in dismissing the last ghost of Frey in SEED as merely Kira’s wish.
I think it’s pretty lucky that Akord dismissed it as a failure, even though it’s already an amazing item just because it’s a Spacody.
Well, it was born just as adjusted, so I wouldn’t say it was a failure at all…
>>142I wonder what that old woman is saying when we are aiming for completely different places in the first place…
Speaking of which, are there no beings in the current GQ world that seem to be born from genes modified like coordinators? Are they different from enhanced humans?
>>145It seems that Design Baby is appearing alongside the residents of W’s Colony in general, Soma from 00, and the three idiots.
I think it’s okay to consider the common belief that Glemmy in ZZ has Giren’s genes as non-existent.
(I don’t need any occult abilities anyway…)
The reason Lux thought a little about politics and the world was because of her mother’s influence.
In the movie, my mother was portrayed as a really terrible person…
Well, when they say the Accord is a failure, it’s not about the level of completion.
Aslan is one of the few people who have changed his evaluation of others, completely disregarding the growth and maturity of individuals like Izark and Shin, and dismissing them as mere creatures.
>>150I still think that the fluffy kid is really just that, so it’s not a big deal.
(There’s a girl with red hair behind the captain…)
>>151Stop it… Shin…
>>151That person didn’t protect me like Stella did!
>>155I tried hard to hold back the perverted mask, you know…
I knew I couldn’t win with just brute strength…
>>155Maybe I’m currently wrestling with Cruze and can’t think about anything else.
Fate is cruel because Kagari starts mentioning something like “You ZAFT are the ones who made a mistake” right in front of Aslan!
In the first place, even before Yoran’s statement, everyone was already in a mourning mood, and no one was affirming anything.
>>152Well, it’s pretty crazy that Yoran, who isn’t even a Zara supporter, made that comment there.
>>161Such evasion of responsibility does not change the fact that it is clouding Aslan’s mind.
Realistic Kira
Occult Shin
Embodiment of Violence Aslan
Aslan is Aslan, after all, so he’s naturally oblivious.
Natural Aslan
Fall into darkness, Kira Yamato!
But when it comes to “It’s love!” Kruz is the kind of guy who raises his fist in triumph.
Aslan looked the saddest throughout the entire work when it was revealed that he killed Kira…
>>163Why am I alive… Ah, did I escape…
I survived… for what purpose… perhaps to be killed by you…
>>163Kagari’s words smoothly take effect there…
My tear ducts have collapsed.
It’s also a form of seed when hate speech flows out from someone who seems ordinary at first glance.
Heine’s flowing natural self-deprecating remarks, looking like a reliable older brother.
>>165Kagari often makes comments about coordination, so it’s really common.
Cloning happens occasionally in the Universal Century.
Well, once the enhancement procedures for humans stabilize, it won’t be something to worry about so much…
I think Diakka’s statement expresses more of an anger like, “Wait, our beloved Nicol is dead too!?”
That’s why I was able to understand Miriallia and became a fighting couple… Wait, why did we become a fighting couple?
>>171Because we were able to understand each other as the same human beings… maybe.
I’ve looked back at it recently, and again, it’s a hopeless worldview.
I remembered that in the beginning of Seed Destiny, it was said that the Chairman was right in his exchange with Kagari.
>>172In that regard, even though Orb is busy fixing Freedom and researching its technology, Zaft is coming to criticize them for developing new weapons, so well…
Moreover, since the chairperson is seen as a villain in that scene, it’s truly a case of being a victim because they’re angry without realizing that the interests of the most advantageous coalition under the Uniuss Treaty are also at play, which makes them come across as childish.
>>172The chairman secretly thinks, “Let everyone be bound by their genes and become unhappy!” but until the opportunity arises, he acts like a politician aiming for peace with realistic reasoning…
>>172If someone asks you to return Lacus who escaped to Orb, will you give back Kagari?
>>180“I don’t know such a person…”
>>180First of all, give back my freedom.
It seems like they’re applying technology to Eclipse.
Kagari: “As expected, Zaft is–!”
Heine: “Those guys from the Alliance!”
Aslan is tired.
Deakka’s willingness to surrender honestly and his subsequent actions are really cool, aren’t they?
The reason for their breakup was that Dearka was surprisingly old-fashioned and didn’t want Miriallia to go out.
I’m recalling whether it’s official or fan-made.
>>176Stop being a war photographer, it’s too dangerous!
I have no obligation to be commanded by you!
Wasn’t it?
>>178The reason I have learned traditional Japanese dance and dress in a vintage style is because I want my mother to notice me, and it has nothing to do with the Millaria matter.
It should have been correct, and even though Diakka is not entirely human, he is still out on the battlefield as a Mobile Suit pilot.
>>178There wasn’t any official explanation around that… I think.
Too many flashbacks for not being the final episode.
>>183(Die, Nicole)
>>186(Die, Nicol)
Do you know what the cockpit temperature was after re-entering the atmosphere?
“It’s great to be casually discriminated against, like saying ‘I would have been dead if it were natural.'”
2 Nicole!
Regarding Dearka and Miriallia, in the anime, Chandar asks, “What about Erusumanto?” and they say, “I got dumped!”
There is an exchange.
I feel like after that, they were saying things like how they kept butting in on what I was doing.
I can’t remember if this is a story from the anime or from the novel.
>>189I wonder if it was a drama CD.
I think it’s a casual remark about breaking up and getting back together, given that we meet with a frequency that I would complain if we met next week, at least in the context of the Neumann drama CD.
Nicole was killed and is in full rage mode, yet being able to surrender to a natural opponent is too cunning and cruel.
The fact that the conversation between Kira and Frey isn’t working is an official setting.
Moreover, it was designed to look like a conversation to someone who knows nothing about it at first glance.
>>192I thought Shin and Stella were the same way.
Different.
If anything, tomorrow really felt like a distance where we could meet even after tomorrow.
“I don’t think ‘See you tomorrow, tomorrow’ means ‘See you tomorrow, tomorrow.'”
Well, there’s a mysterious common understanding that Diakka is probably overprotective.
That guy was cunning, cruel, and had a bad mouth like a lower-tier thug.
I’ve come to realize that this kid is really going with the flow in that situation.
It’s more about the vibe of the moment, with about 10% for the world and 90% for Kira.
What is for Kira is also for myself, so it is not self-sacrifice.
>>199On the contrary, Kira devoted herself too much to self-sacrifice and public service…
Kira has recovered mentally and has completely become lewd now.