What is the situation with pairings like Lacus & Kira and Cagalli & Athrun?

If we adjust the genes around there, it seems like we could have children, but is it impossible?

The future of coordinators is bleak.

Lacus and Kira are both from the first generation, so they are relaxed.

Kagari is a natural, so we are also relaxed.

Shin and Luna, do your best!

>>3

Shin became a first generation due to a setting change.

>>92

They say it’s a remake, but I had never heard that the parents are coordinators, so I thought it was natural since the time it aired.

>>100

Considering Shin’s age, it’s a bit strange for his parents to be Coordinators.

>>107

Age isn’t weird, right?

>>100

I don’t remember my sister being called a coordinator, and I have a memory of there being no mention aside from Shin.

Lacus and Kira are first generation, so there isn’t much of a problem.

Asran and Cagalli are the same since Cagalli is a Natural.

The one with a higher possibility of having problems is both the second-generation code Pokémon Shin and Luna.

Accord and the First Generation Super Coordinator

Since they are natural and second-generation coordinators, it can be done.

It seems like Shin and Izark are having a tough time around that area.

Will it become difficult for the grandchildren’s generation to have children?

The problem is with those from the second generation and beyond.

In other words, something like Shinluna?

Izakuma Mama must be choosing a match for the omiai (arranged marriage) that is a good fit.

It’s sad that they can’t have children.

Let’s do the Destiny Plan together!

Chairman Durandal and Captain Talia broke up due to compatibility issues.

Talia had a child with a compatible partner.

This is a problem that even Chairman Durandal could not resolve, so it is quite difficult.

Coordinators need to avoid brood parasitism policies; otherwise, the survival of the species will be difficult.

It’s probably best to just receive genes so that you can be with the person you like.

>>14

That is why Dr. Hibiki’s artificial womb is necessary.

>>14

There’s a worthless woman in the play who neglects a child of a boy she doesn’t like…

It’s hard to imagine that having children is difficult.

The fact that compatibility is an issue doesn’t necessarily mean that second-generation sperm or eggs are weak.

>>15

It’s a problem caused by manipulating genes, you see…

>>15

There are likely some drawbacks to forcibly tampering with genes.

Unlimited raw delivery!

The coordinator is a tragic existence that discriminates against the natural while being unable to preserve the species without incorporating natural blood.

>>19

The coordinator hates mixed breeds with natural ones = half-breeds more than anything, so they cannot preserve the species.

>>13

If it’s the child of Kira and Athrun, they will live strongly…

It seems like the story about how overly adjusting things leads to significant differences in genetic sequences and functions, making implantation difficult, was just a nameless delusion I am trying to remember.

The difference in genes between humans and monkeys is slight, so if you manipulate the genes, of course, they won’t be able to have children.

Could it be that the fertilized egg’s division is not going well?

Captain Talia is seriously making sure that kind of thing doesn’t happen.

>>13

Because it’s a fake life that’s even more fake.

It can’t be helped.

They never did half coordinators in anime…

Is it because it’s too crazy?

Clones have short telomeres, and coordinators have strict breeding regulations.

Natural is the best!

>>32

Why didn’t you make me a coordinator!

What is needed, after all, is an artificial womb…

>>33

It’s not stable!!

Excluding George Glenn, the oldest known coordinator would have been Siegel Klein, who would have been 53 years old by the time of the movie if he were alive.

There is not even an old person in the species yet.

I wonder if the abilities of coordinators from the second generation onwards are also influenced by their parents.

The half coordinator was doing it at Eclipse.

I plan to leave the solar system with coordinator technology.

The nameless do not know the innate sins borne by a life that was born between natural and coordinator.

Where should I vent this pain that is hated by both nature and coordinators, and even disliked by my parents?

Rather, coordinators are originally meant to be bound to naturals.

>>42

An existence crafted beautifully to be naturally liked.

Commercial vegetable seeds produce delicious crops, but…

Does it feel like the vegetables grown from the seeds harvested there aren’t delicious?

>>43

It’s like vegetables that have few seeds to grow.

So leave CE to us, the concubines.

I’m curious about what happens if we further manipulate the genes of a half-Asian child.

If Kagari and Athrun were to get together, it might turn out to be terrible.

There is no specific setting for what is causing the trouble.

In other words, if they understood, the research would advance in the story, so they probably really don’t understand anything within the narrative.

>>47

Chairman Durandal, an expert in genetic research, started the Destiny Plan out of despair…

>>47

Somehow, the genetic modification of coordinators feels like subtraction.

I want a smart and earnest child, so I’m going to eliminate the foolishness factor and the laziness factor.

As a result, the diversity of genes is decreasing, and it seems that each generation becomes more sparse.

It might be different, but…

I wonder if Shinluna can have children.

It’s difficult to say that it’s impossible just because it’s hard to achieve.

We have to control marriage, to that extent.

We do not love because we want children… We have children because we love.

There are quite a few cases in reality where the reason for infertility remains unknown no matter how much it is investigated…

It seems like the coordinators formed a group, but originally it was something intended to be tied to naturals.

The stupid thing about SEED is that, unlike the Universal Century, the species themselves are different.

>>53

Even as a coordinator, I don’t think it goes beyond the realm of Homo sapiens… for now, at least…

This thread smells like blue cosmos, somehow.

>>56

99% of the bulletin board is natural, you know.

>>60

You’re a coordinator, right?

The cost of genetic modification has caused severe disparities.

If it hadn’t cost money, humanity would have almost faced destruction.

The first generation does not see a decrease in birth rates.

You can’t do it without considering compatibility from the second generation.

From the third generation onward, even that compatibility is hopeless.

If it’s just against natural or first generation, then there are no problems with second generation or later.

>>59

The first generation is not that different from natural.

That said, among coordinators, there is a difference like that between a donkey and a horse, so while they can interbreed, it’s not impossible.

I wonder if it’s like a situation where a mixed-blood child that is difficult to conceive is born.

Because the adjusted genes can be passed on to children.

It must be getting all mixed up and messed up with the adjustments.

It’s not hard to understand why Burkos is on the rise.

I was born to be a mediator with the upcoming aliens and new humanity.

Originally, it should be close to an innovator.

If we just decide “this gene is superior!” based solely on the views of people from that era, and everyone becomes one-sided in that belief, we might face extinction due to unpredictable environmental changes over tens of thousands of years.

It might be that the species’ instinct prevents the offspring from increasing.

Due to changes in the setting, almost all Coordinators and Half-Coordinators that were on Earth are now in the PLANTs, so it is believed that the PLANTs will naturally wither away within the next hundred years.

>>65

It seems that there are already quite a few fewer interviews with Elder Kazui that are the most recent in chronological order.

It seems that there hasn’t been much increase since the main story.

>>65

Isn’t it supposed to have disappeared from the timeline that all the coordinators went to the plant?

Isn’t it impossible considering the total population of the plant?

The chairman and Captain Talia looked old, but are they both second generation?

>>66

They are both around 30 years old.

>>66

Both are still in their early thirties.

Burkos affiliated coordinator: “See? It’s a distorted ecology, isn’t it? That’s why all coordinators should die.”

>>68

Could it be that Sokiusu became a coordinator to help the Naturals after breaking free from brainwashing?

In the end, the coordinator has no choice but to naturally revert back.

If the third generation and beyond is difficult,

Let’s stop talking about old or questionable settings without updating the information!

They say the genes are different, but what they’re actually doing is combining genes that make one good at physical activities, so it’s quite normal for a natural athlete to be born with a combination that allows them to excel in those activities.

In other words, the level of environmental pollution is so severe that the rate of disabilities among normally born children is extremely high, and that’s why gene manipulation technology was invented.

I’m stuck!

Coordinators are commonly still present in Orbs and are also found in other countries.

Just because someone is a coordinator doesn’t mean everyone has amazing performance, damn it.

>>81

I didn’t shoot suddenly.

For details, let’s take a look at the CE timeline.

>>81

Nuclear weapons are not a fun collection to gather…!

It’s strange for a doctor of Ark Angel who has never properly examined a coordinator.

>>80

Someone who grew up in the Blue Cosmos family line but seems not to have been influenced in their thinking… is that so?

>>80

It is understandable that I have never seen a coordinator belonging to the Allied Forces since they are quite rare.

>>80

Isn’t it not unnatural for a union’s military doctor?

George Glenn, who caused the rift between both sides, is to blame!!

The fate of a coordinator might just be to use an excellent carbon clone, controlled physically and mentally with Extended and Accord technology, as a mercenary.

Wasn’t there a country that leaned towards the parent plant?

>>84

It’s the Oceania Union or the Pan-Muslim Conference.

Since it doesn’t get any focus, I have no idea what kind of group of nations it is!

It’s often said that Joel from Eclipse deeply hates coordinators because it’s speculated that he was born from a coordinator who raped his natural mother.

He believes that the very existence of coordinators in this world is a sin, regardless of any brainwashing by Burkos.

Isn’t it a bad situation to have been continuously stuck as a coordinator?

It seems like it’s getting better by becoming mixed-blood and decreasing.

Without George’s confession, that would be a different kind of hell.

I mean, thinking about the plant, it’s unrealistic for everyone there to be coordinators at their age.

No matter how you think about it, the natural style of the coordinator’s parent generation is also living here, right?

Even so, there are probably natural parents living on Earth, so I wonder why they often use Genesis or NJ.

>>91

When Patrick tried to shoot Genesis on Earth, everyone would have been completely shocked!

>>94

There are more people who don’t think about total disaster in nature.

>>94

In a few years, there will be terrorists saying things like “Patrick is the best~ it’s easy to drop Uni-7 on Earth…”

Well, I want to believe that they are just a bunch of immature people who lack empathy for others.

>>114

Don’t dismiss those who have gone crazy after losing their family to terrorism as childish.

>>91

I hear that NJ itself is the result of the dove faction somehow compromising to retaliate against the massacre with nuclear rain on Earth!!

It seems that something that was supposed to be dropped only on military facilities ended up being recklessly scattered around due to the military going out of control.

>>99

According to Siegel’s calculations, there shouldn’t be a problem if all other power generation is redirected to civilian use.

Instead of allocating electricity for civilian use, it was directed to the military, resulting in many people dying of starvation.

>>121

I don’t mean to be harsh, but if you let things happen quietly and pivot to domestic demand, you’d just end up getting killed.

>>126

It’s understandable that there are parts about it since it was an alternative to a nuclear missile shower.

>>121

To be honest, there’s no way that one wouldn’t think they absolutely need to crush someone who would do something like that… that’s the naive expectation of Siegel.

>>121

I can’t trust those who dropped NJ all over the Earth without even distinguishing between plant-oriented nations.

If we don’t strengthen our military power, we’ll just end up being invaded from space and wiped out.

To be honest, there are probably quite a few people who don’t know that I’m a coordinator.

Patrick said that our wisdom will eventually overcome that difficulty! But was it impossible?

>>96

That line from Patrick is just wishful thinking, you know.

>>13

Half coordinators are persecuted, but they can also become a bridge, so Siegel Klein has become a sponsor and there is a settlement for halfs and their families in South America.

The Serpent Tail has a permanent contract, so it quickly comes flying over if something is nearby.

>>102

Since Siegel died and Patrick’s era began, that has already ended.

So it becomes a story about Eclipse.

>>115

Even after Siegel’s death, the settlement remains as it is, and the guard contract continues.

The sudden appearance of the Blue Frame at the end of the Destiny Astray South America chapter is because the contract for the settlement’s protection is still in effect.

There was a time when people said that only good-looking people were coordinators, but that has become a thing of the past now.

Isn’t SEED’s setting quite altered?

>>103

Is it because it’s a work from 20 years ago…?

At the time of the main story, there are probably very few individuals from the third generation who have reached an appropriate age for marriage, right?

>>104

Even if George Glenn’s confession was born right after CE15, he would still be in his late 50s, so it’s quite close.

So even if people say that the future is going to be really bad… the birth rate of the third generation is not being taken too seriously as a direct problem.

Is there really any need for coordinators to continue existing as a species?

If it naturally leads to a situation where I can be with a coordinator, then that’s fine.

If we consider that there are natural parents’ generations, it becomes easier to understand why there are so many child soldiers.

Has Shin’s setting changed?

Even if the genetic compatibility is good, it doesn’t necessarily mean that a child will be conceived.

“It’s only the assumption that these two can have children genetically.”

Moreover, the probability is quite low, so it’s like they are controlling marriages with a mindset of “I hope these two are a good match and can have children, please!”

Rakus also mentions in the guerrilla radio in the story that “even with marriage control, children cannot be born.”

Regarding Shin’s generation, there has been some ambiguity from the very beginning.

Shin’s parents didn’t really seem like typical coordinators.

In the world of the story, there are hardly any haters towards GG, and there is even a natural fan club.

I think that perhaps as an individual, there was really nothing to criticize.

The SEED recollection where Zantou, influenced by Patrick’s ideology, goes on a rampage.

At that time, I didn’t really mind it, but using Uni Seven for a terrorist act is the worst.

>>120

Starting tomorrow, I’ll talk about the time when that comrade was causing a ruckus in the social game.

A story between species and species death.

I just modified it so that the child born will be a handsome and well-rounded person! From the perspective of the one who made the modification, it’s enough if I can see my grandchild.

In anime, the parent plant country doesn’t get any spotlight, so it’s hard to understand.

>>124

It’s been mentioned in conversation casually, and it even became a stage production, right!?

>>129

Is that so?

The seeds arrive in Alaska via the African Oub.

I feel like the only thing that has come up is the base, since the Seed of Death goes through the Carpentarious Esz via the Orb to Gibraltar.

>>124

The Oceanian Federation sounds absolutely interesting, right?

Too close with the plant.

Shin and Luna

Izark and Shiho

Is it difficult to have children around here?

Ceasefire order! This is a ceasefire order!

Please stop! Please stop the fighting!

I think Dearka and Buster would have a hard time having children.

>>133

Well, that’s humans and MS for you.

>>133

Well, that’s true…

>>133

Buster: “But Dearka, the Zaku’s control system is easier to use, you know…”

An example of a coordinator belonging to Blue Cosmos, which has only been mentioned to have existed until now.

>>136

It’s someone who hates coordinators to death!

In the end, are Dearka and Miriallia still not a thing?

>>139

A relationship that comes together and pulls apart.

>>139

Unknown

>>139

According to the bonus of the movie version, they are still meeting.

>>139

A long-awaited hint with a 소개 of local attractions.

>>139

In summary of the story, Dearka told Miriallia to stop doing dangerous things, and they ended up fighting again and separating.

So it depends on how the fans take it.

>>150

According to Neumann’s log, Milialia says she will meet Diakka again soon, and she will complain to him then! So they have quite a few meetings.

CE 22 [First Generation] Siegel Klein is born.

CE 23 [First Generation] Birth of Patrick Zara

CE 41 [Second Generation] Birth of Gilbert Durandal

CE44 【Second Generation】 Talia Gladys is born.

What the viewers, including the unnamed ones, misunderstand is that the naturals and half coordinators don’t actually want the plants to perish.

I just want the harmful coordinator to disappear from this world.

The political system called “Plant” doesn’t matter.

>>142

What a contrived response…

It seems that Diakka is fighting and saying that being a war photographer is dangerous, right?

>>152

It’s actually dangerous, isn’t it?

>>157

I thought I was living in a peaceful and safe country, but it turned into a battlefield.

Well, I understand the feeling of getting angry and wondering where a safe place actually is.

It seems that Diakka is thinking about calling Milli to the plant for the privilege of freedom of species, so it’s not really a breakup; it’s just a lovers’ quarrel.

It’s terrible that even coordinators outside the plant can’t stand it.

>>156

Isn’t that just a homage to Zeon, which only causes trouble for the Space Noids while pretending to represent them?

Dearka and Miriallia seem like a typical couple who are always getting together and then separating.

When did the generation setting for Shin change?

Are your parents engineers at Orb?

>>160

It’s not that it has changed, but rather that I don’t have any memory of it being explicitly stated in the first place.

>>160

It seems there was no particular mention of Shin’s generation originally.

>>160

The Asuka family is immigrants who moved to Orb.

>>160

As mentioned above, Shin’s parents have almost no backstory.

For some reason, the recognition that I am a coordinator has spread.

It’s a local thing from FREEDOM.

So there’s a thing with Dearka and Miriallia, huh?

Miriallia is sitting inside, but Dearka is outside and hasn’t come in.

That sense of distance is already a perfect interpretation, and I officially can’t sleep with my feet facing it.

There aren’t actually that many people in that world who seriously think, “I want it to perish!”

So the Atlantic Federation of the FREEDOM era is enough already… with the war and all… rejecting Burkos and funding the Compass.

>>162

After two major wars, no country wants to fight anymore.

>>168

Well, it’s a war where both sides use such dangerous weapons recklessly, and a lot of the higher-ups have died, you know.

I can’t afford to go to war.

>>168

It’s easy to get the wrong idea because there are often characters in the story fighting out of hate.

>>162

In the previous work, only Jibril was this enthusiastic.

Dear Millie has been properly continued as a bonus feature for Seed Freedom…

The Aegis shield forged a bond between the two.

If we destroy natural things, then in the future, Cody will die too!

>>169

In reality, there are people who believe in accelerationism, a kind of religion that says any problem can be solved if we just try hard enough.

The extremists in Cody are pretty much like that.

Diamiuri will probably have kids before getting married, won’t they?

Did the thoughtful and intelligent boyfriend of Natural get killed by his friend’s friend while trying to help his friend?

Also, those whose heads have gone crazy have been dying in every war.

If it were a tribe that would perish on its own, there would have been no need to fight…