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[Mobile Suit Gundam] Why is the mass-produced type Z being mocked so much?

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This is a perfect model for a cynical old otaku who prefers high-end mass-produced machines over one-offs.

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Because there’s a kid named Z Plus…

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Because existence is upside down.

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Your face is uncool.

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It’s not mass-produced, is it?

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What that kind of group likes are things like the Jesta and Zeta Plus.

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When I hear “mass-produced type Z,” I can only imagine transformations.

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It doesn’t look cool.

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If existence is a matter of being upside down, then things like the ReGZ aren’t much different either.

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What is this red?

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It seems it was already considered a joke machine before that…

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Is a good high-end mass-produced machine a masterpiece?

It must be a mass-produced model that is stronger than the prototype.

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The protrusion that sticks out next to the beam rifle is too pointless and gross.

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Compared to this guy, the mass-produced machines have a sense of being forgiven.

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The plan to mass-produce the Hyakushiki Kai is pretty ridiculous, isn’t it?

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Trash with no value to exist.

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By the way, it’s funny how in that video for G Generation Eternal, there are so few ZZ mechs that they actually become quite useful.

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Even if it’s rotten, it originally comes from Z, so the performance itself isn’t bad, at least.

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The mistake of being born is filth.

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It’s a style that makes me want to throw up.

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It would be nice to have a Hyakushiki Kai.

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Waste of resources

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Wasn’t it the case that the development plan for Prototype Z was simply not to transform?

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Myona’s go-to crappy MS

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The mass-produced ZZ has made something good, hasn’t it!

It’s still ridiculously expensive, haha! That’s why it works…

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A complete piece of garbage aircraft with no redeeming qualities.

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At least say that it was a performance issue or that the cost was too high, but please call yourself Z after you can transform.

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What’s wrong with this guy is that if it doesn’t transform in the first place, then the Zeta Gundam lineage would be just fine.

The fact that the mass-produced Zeta Plus, which can transform, is being hit from two directions…

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I think it’s a good idea to try and see if mass production of the ZZ is possible, because it would be amazing if it can be achieved.

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Rizeru is great…

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Right now, it’s the immobile Proto Z base…

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The aircraft had no presence, whether positive or negative, so the only reason it gets ridiculed so much is simply “because the official channels have messed with it.”

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It has been said officially that this is amazing.

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The maneuverability of the rival Gata is too strong compared to the concept of the Rigazie.

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Your face…

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To speak seriously, there isn’t enough refinement to sell it to the Federation, and its performance is lacking for use by AEUG.

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Officially recognized MS on the bulletin board.

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Production type ZZ

Mass Production Type Z

Mass Production Type Hyakushiki Kai

Nouvelle Gym III

A unit composed of the above will take center stage in Across the Sky, please look forward to it!

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It seems that the way we lost is too pathetic, as the Hyakushiki Kai, designed from the beginning as a non-deformable general-purpose machine, is superior.

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Let’s consider a combination of SFS and non-deformable machines, or just TMS alone!

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Is this official!?

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There are suspicions that this guy is being criticized harshly by the faction at Anaheim that wants to sell variable machines, rather than by the Federation.

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There is no scrap metal that isn’t terrible.

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The mass-production type ZZ is literally just one point short of being a satisfactory grade as a mass-produced version of the ZZ.

That point worked hard, but it’s still too costly and would be impossible for mass production, which is a critical issue.

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I think the mass-produced ZZ had a highlight in some manga.

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Even though I challenged the competition by discarding the most distinctive and iconic aspects, I just ended up losing to the mass-produced byproducts created until Z was made…

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Did the Hyaku Shiki Kai really get used like that…?

The battle for last place

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I don’t know how the production type Z’s performance compares to other MS.

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Isn’t it enough to focus on the MS form alone for Z? That’s not a problem.

Why do you lose normally by saying “It’s fine if it doesn’t transform”?

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Rizel has an excellent machine itself, but the perspective is from the seller’s side rather than the buyer’s.

It’s not like I want it, so please make it; rather, it’s more like I’ve made it, so please buy it.

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The mass-produced ZZ omits transformation, yet it apparently has the worst maintainability.

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If it doesn’t deform, can’t we just skip the Z base?

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Ugly and unpleasant.

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I can understand wanting a high-performance mass-produced mobile suit when looking at Neo Zeon’s mobile suits.

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I realized that Zeta Plus was really well made.

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The Hyakushiki series recently had its descendant, the Hyakunituki, emerge and it has been found to be surviving in a niche market as a high-end ODM. The transformation line is also surviving for ace units with the Delta series, so the Z blood itself isn’t a bad thing…

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At the very least, let it have the atmospheric reentry capability, which is the core of Z.

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The mass-produced ZZ is made steadily to be user-friendly and cost-effective!

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The worst part is that the era of variable machines will end after this.

What was all that series of hardships about?

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The mystery of the rich variations: Hyakushiki Kai FA, Hyakushiki Kai Ground Combat, and Hyakushiki Kai Mass Production.

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Ultimately, if there’s a budget for Qubeley and Penelope, they have become capable of flying through the atmosphere in humanoid form at incredible speeds…

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It would be nice to have variable machines, but it’s not necessary to have so many, and for minor uses, SFS might be sufficient… which is reasonable.

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A pitiful existence.

I really like the design.

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It is understandable to omit the transformation and combination mechanism with the concept of high output and high firepower.

It’s unclear why we should omit the transformation mechanism since the base specs are reasonably good.

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If it’s V, then it will shine the spotlight on the variable mechanism one more time…

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An existence lower than maggots.

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I heard that it’s not so much that it’s a disappointing aircraft, but rather that it has too much power for mass production and deployment.

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Generally, most roles can be managed with SFS and a value pack, and if you try to handle everything with just one machine, it’s more likely to appeal only to informal organizations with tight budgets.

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It seems that both piloting and maintaining a variable aircraft would be quite challenging.

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I feel like it’s relatively famous among the Z derivatives, thanks to the joke about being poorly done.

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A variable aircraft capable of atmospheric entry alone seems to be in higher demand outside of the regular military.

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If a game featuring this guy as the main character comes out and receives high praise, it could definitely turn things around…

Maybe that kind of thing could never happen, and even if that time comes, I’d probably be piloting a custom machine with a Gundam face…

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Since Rizer appeared in the unicorn, it feels even more ambiguous.

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If the face was a Z-face, it might have gained a bit more popularity.

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This rough silhouette with protrusions extending radially is just so characteristic of Fujita’s design, I can’t get enough of it.

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I’m curious about the reasoning behind why something is more expensive than a person painted entirely in gold.

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Rizel is a mass-production type of Zetsu…

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Well, the Z Plus has a model kit out and it also appears in the anime…

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If you take the transformation out of Z, it’s just a skinny gym.

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Proto-Zeta or something feels different from the image I had.

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Why do you have to say that much?

Mass Production Prototype MSZ-007 Mass Production Type Z Gundam [ECO] Usage [Operational Deployment] Unknown [Form] ■ SPEC Height: 20.4m Body Weight: 32.1t Total Weight: 48.2t Generator Output: 2,022kW Total Thrust of Thrusters: 107,500kg Effective Range of Sensors: 11,500m [Materials] Foam Metal, Gundarium Alloy [Armament] ■ Beam Saber ■ Beam Rifle Twin Beam Cannon Mass Production Prototype MSZ-013 Mass Production Type ZZ Gundam [Form] A motivated design aimed at mass-producing high-power MS ■ SPEC Height: 18.5m Body Weight: 29.2t Total Weight: 53.3t Generator Output: 2,210kW Total Thrust of Thrusters: 97,500kg Effective Range of Sensors: 11,300m [Materials] Foam Metal, Gundarium Alloy [Armament] 50mm Vulcan Gun x2 Beam Saber Double Beam Rifle Twin Beam Cannon

Why do you have to say that much?

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In the 80s and 90s, the mass-produced Z was popular in manga, but in the official history, there aren’t any remnants at that necessary level.

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In other words, Rizer is Metas…?

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It’s a waste of Gundarium alloy.

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It took 30 years for an organization that waits in orbit and has variable machines enter the atmosphere and rush to the scene in case of an emergency to appear in anime.

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If we only consider the perspective of mass production of variable machines, the Asshimar series is a masterpiece…

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If changing the head doesn’t significantly reduce costs, then it’s better to keep the Gundam face like the Z Plus.

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Lisel feels like the culmination of the Ζ series based on the ZⅡ.

The legs are fully equipped with Full Armor ZZ as well.

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It seems there would still be demand for variable machines if they were equipped with fire-fighting gear or medical equipment, removing all armaments.

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I think goggles would be more popular if they were a bit more handsome.

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Was there ever a discussion about how difficult it is to ride the Re-GZ in the first place?

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First of all, I want to say that the MSV after Z airing as a whole is not great… but I can’t fully criticize it because I like Zeta.

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If the goal is mass production, then Jegan is just fine…

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What’s up with you having so many external business trips, just slightly?

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Z is so special that almost its entire body is structured for transformation, yet it takes effort to make it non-variable.

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It seems that Shirow was highly evaluating the potential of variable machines as he continued to create Gabure Zeyhan Bravies after Messara.

After trying it out thoroughly, I reached the conclusion that it’s not something to pursue too deeply.

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I think Zetsu is quite fortunate because even though it shouldn’t have had a real machine, it sprouted anyway.

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It’s not that we don’t need variable machines because they aren’t the main models.

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The Ashima is a great machine, but it’s large and has limited armament it can carry.

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Federation Army: “Give us low-cost mass-produced machines.”

Anaheim: “We have created a high-cost, high-performance mass-produced machine! It can do that! It can do this! Highly recommended!”

Federal Army: “We don’t need it…”

Always like this

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Because Anaheim-kun has the residents of the colony as an infinitely squeezable wallet, the concept of cost is very loose.

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The structure of early variable MSs like Metis and Gaza C, which appear to be quite fragile, is…

As time goes by, it’s actually interesting that it seems to have been quite robust, right? It’s fascinating how it continues to be referenced for a long time.

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The existence of this child, who has even omitted the transformation mechanism since both Delta Gundam and ReZEL have emerged, is…

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If we’re combining it with variable units that seem to have many solo advance missions, should we also prepare a top ace capable of standing alone against a thousand?

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Zeta Plus is a rare type that was mass-produced under the premise that it is expensive.

Karaba is wealthy, isn’t he?

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Anaheim is playing with MS, right?

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It looks like a 3D TV, the variable MS.

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Even if efficiency drops a bit, simplicity is important, isn’t it?

Even just a little increase in complexity in tasks can lead to a huge rise in careless mistakes…

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…I wonder why they thought about mass-producing one-man army units for Neo Zeon.

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I aimed for cost reduction!

It didn’t become cheaper after all!

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Having a clear concept and working hard towards it, but failing, is understandable and can be utilized for next time.

Not knowing what you want to do is a waste of resources.

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Anaheim is a company that could seriously make things if they wanted to, but they are indulging in their lewd desires.

If made seriously, it’s a G Cannon.

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Why don’t you stop your bad habit of trying to mass-produce machines that disregard costs, Anaheim-kun?

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Cost-cutting is really difficult, isn’t it…

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Maybe Anaheim thinks that both the Federation and Neo Zeon are as rich as they are.

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The Titans, being proactive, decided to create their own Barzam since Marasai is expensive…

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The Gundam team, or rather ZZ, has produced the results that they have.

I think the cost-effectiveness was fairly positive, don’t you think?

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You can see how much of a masterpiece the basic gym is as a mass-produced model.

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