
Watching “Mobile Suit Gundam.” It’s a fictional war chronicle with the theme of what if the Earth Federation won the One Year War. The story of Tem Ray’s son as an original character rampaging is quite interesting, but it might be a bit too convenient for the Federation… The national hero Char Aznable is portrayed in a rather pathetic way, which is quite disrespectful to the character.
In historical fact, the hero Char, who sacrificed himself to protect his beloved, Lady Kishiria, and Granada, leading the war to victory, is portrayed as someone who actually harbors resentment toward the Zabi family, which I think comes close to hate-driven creation.
What is that big memorial portrait?
I was shocked to hear that Lalah died.
Is the author a woman?
>>6
Who is Lalah?
It’s the worst that an original character is coming on to Char, who was in a romantic relationship with Lady Kycilia.
But if he is the son of the Gundam developer, isn’t it good for him to have such qualities?
I think it’s a reasonable position.
Isn’t the way the Zabi family gets wiped out in the later stages too rushed?
Is this a canceled anime?
Leaving children on a battleship all the time might be for comedic or heartwarming purposes, but I find it a bit questionable.
Is the headquarters of the righteous Zeon army really that?
What is being converged into Kshatriya is a collection of various research institutions and the various individuals leading them.
I thought it was a necessary alteration for the sake of clarity in storytelling.
Me (Mobile Suit Gundam)
Well, it was quite innovative as an approach and interesting as an if scenario.
It’s interesting that instead of depicting the hero Char as a traditional hero or tragic love figure, they are portraying him as an ordinary human.
It’s throwing in quite a lot of chaotic elements, though.
The OP is singing about how the ZION is evil and the Federation is justice, telling you to “defeat the massive enemy” and “unleash the wrath of justice,” which is a really intense ideology.
>>15
It’s a song with lyrics based on the concept that it was created by the federal side as a propaganda song.
>>15
The person who wrote the lyrics has probably never seen Gundam.
The decrease in Kishiria-sama’s status is severe.
Infinite wrongdoings are added one after another.
Aren’t you underestimating the fact that Char’s counterpart is a student with a perm?
I think it’s well done as an alternate history story.
It seems like we’re headed for a terrible world where Space Nomads can be oppressed without restraint.
If you really think about it, it’s not “What if we win?” but rather “What do we need to win?” or “What if someone else gets in the Gundam?”
Gundam isn’t this flat, right?
It is also a hate creation towards the hero Cuculus Doan.
It’s a bit unrealistic to shut down a historically effective strategy like “being able to anticipate everything and handle it alone, so it gets nullified” with a haphazard countermeasure.
>>23
I understand that when thinking about how to contain something realistically useful, there’s no choice but to resort to an obviously fantastical method like that.
It’s clear that the story is being constructed based on the conspiracy theory that Char Aznable is the illegitimate child of Zeon Zum Daikun, which has drastically altered his character and personality.
Char is allowed to do this because he has no relatives, but if he had a family, he would be sued.
It’s interesting because it has a good balance of reality and entertainment for consumption as a form of entertainment.
When viewed as a historical piece, it’s terrible.
When I think about what it would be like if there were talents on the Federation side that rivaled Char…
Regardless of the process, I think it wouldn’t have been strange for things to flow this way.
I think if they just did it normally, the Earth Federation could have won even without the existence of original characters.
>>27
The Federation has not lost…
After all, if Char hadn’t been there, this history wouldn’t exist.
Why are they using a stronghold that looks like a castle of evil in the War of Independence?
Rather the opposite.
That guy Amuro is way too strong, isn’t he?
When you’re surprised once, why can you handle it the second time? What’s with this guy?
>>31
Well, I’m so strong, this is just how it is.
>>33
I laugh every time at the part where Shalirabul dies quite carelessly.
>>34
If I let it live poorly, it would increasingly diverge from my current performance, so I had no choice but to eliminate it from the start…
>>37
I wonder what it is that a stranger woman is making a big face instead…
It’s perhaps because of consideration for a real person that one can’t definitively say that Char’s sister is the heroine.
>>36
In reality, the white devil of the federation is actually my sister.
There’s a rumor that they were at Luna 2, but they’ve completely disappeared, and they are a user-friendly character.
Creating an original character like a long-lost sister just to have her insulted shows an overwhelming amount of hatred towards Char.
If there was a pilot better than Char in Gundam.
As an “if” scenario, it’s interesting, but the son of Tem Ray is really pushing it.
Was there no properly trained pilot?
Well, I think I placed the original character in a good spot.
Since the person never actually existed, it’s fine to embellish.
I can understand that it was an amazing machine, but if the Gundam hadn’t been stolen, we would have won; that’s basically being a Char anti-fan.
>>44
Well, it was actually amazing, and if you’re going to do an alternate history, it would be easiest to branch off there.
I definitely think that superhumans adapted to outer space will eventually be born.
It’s too convenient for the top of Zeon to suddenly exit at that point.
Psycommu is actually in practical use, so it wouldn’t be strange for there to be users.
If that were Char, I would understand.
This Gundam looks so flat.
But it’s exciting that Char finally masterfully uses the psycommu at the very last moment!
>>50
I think it’s pretty intense that the enemy is actually called Gundam.
I like that Char’s one line set the Gundam as a decoy unit in reality.
Isn’t Garma’s exit too early? Is this a criticism?
Original characters are fine, but it’s the worst that Char assassinated Garma and the Zabi family collapses due to infighting.
Are you a head federation person?
There are many reused backgrounds and questionable drawings.
>>56
It feels unsettling to see through the financial situation of the federal sympathizers…
In terms of newtypes, Zeon has an overwhelming advantage, but it’s also true that the Federation has the strongest newtype, which is why I created the character Lalah.
I think it’s questionable to shield Char and hurt his mental state, causing him to exit, as we can’t fully utilize him.
It’s probably only the Storm Cloud Zion Castle that is true to historical facts.
If you’re going to kill off so many real people like this, I wish they would have kept someone like Dozle alive.
>>59
I think it’s dramatic to perish alongside the one and only Big Zam in a world where it is not mass-produced.
I think that eventually, like this original character, a new humanity adapted to space will definitely be born, and it should be clearly stated in the charter as well.
>>60
Are you a conspiracy theorist?
It’s not that easy for new species to be born.
I don’t like Amuro because he’s too strong.
Even if an official strong cheat-type original character like this is presented, it’s hard to know how to react.
First of all, the main character’s personality is strange.
Why is the protagonist a whiny engineer who bites their nails?
Is it a reincarnation story?
>>65
I feel like having an engineer is better than messing around with a clumsy soldier and making them invincible.
It’s too much to say that a novice pilot could become stronger than Char.
It’s really coming through how they’re trying to make money with this character Amuro in the future.
No matter how you think about it, if we had just played normally, the Federation would have won.
If the Gundam hadn’t been stolen, we would have won easily.
The Zabi family is definitely going to fall apart.
Support for corporal punishment is just absurd for a federal institution.
>>71
Come on, let’s consider the times.
It was like that back then.
>>71
Well, it’s wartime, so that’s that…
This is the man of the high castle.
Isn’t it a bit excessive to have the hero of Zeon, Colonel Char, kill his best friend Garma and his forbidden lover, Lady Kycilia?
It’s based on historical facts, so there’s nothing that can be done about it.
It’s definitely strange to leave a Gundam outside.
>>75
I wonder why the Gundam was left wide open like that…
For the Federation to defeat Zeon, it was based on the premise that Char wouldn’t come to Side 7, which made me laugh a bit.
If a new species is born, it shouldn’t be a rigid military ace pilot.
I like the depiction of sensitive young people waking up.
I think it’s also good to use that ability for things other than battles in the end.
It’s dizzying to hear that those oppressing the Space Noise are claiming to unleash the righteous anger of Gundam…
I’m not a fan of Char, but it was really interesting.
Isn’t it possible to make a series out of this?
>>82
But if I were to write a continuation, it would definitely end up being during the oppressive era of the Federation, where the oppression of the Space Noids intensified, and I don’t think that would be popular.
>>82
Well, it’s a nice ending to the story, isn’t it?
I don’t need a sequel.
Even though it’s a fictional war story, Gene, who replaces Char, is just too much of a war criminal.
Is the person satisfied with being treated like that?
>>83
“I was making adult comments like ‘If I had actually gone out, I might have lost.'”
That curly hair is probably what they call a new type, right?
Aren’t newtypes scary?
>>86
Thanks to New Types, Granada was saved, so what are you talking about?
The fact that Revil is treated as a great admiral is something the Federation should really be getting mad about.
They’re dragging out a story about the One Year War that could be summed up in one move.
The so-called Mobile Suit Gundam is…
Was the bad episode count because it didn’t do well?
>>90
I think it’s quite remarkable that such hate creation has continued for so long.
>>90
It seems that although it was poorly received and canceled, this type of Gundam toy has become a hit and garnered attention through reevaluation.
A sequel is already determined! 😄
>>92
It’s an internal leak, but it seems that Char will be riding a golden mobile suit.
No, seriously.
>>118
What do you mean? You’re not saying you became a pilot for the Federation, are you?
>>121
I heard it’s a federation against a federation, so unless it’s a third force, it might be better to be prepared.
>>128
If you’re going to have a history of winning the federation, at least unify your political ideologies. Why is it only that part that’s so realistic?
>>128
I’ve heard that Char is part of an anti-Federation organization.
So it seems they’re going to steal the new model of Gundam.
I dislike the design of Gundam because it’s too uncool.
>>94
If you aim for children to like it, wouldn’t it turn out like that?
>>98
It’s simpler than the real thing, so it seems easy to release things like children’s coloring books or plastic models.
>>103
I love design, and I want them to make an alternate story using only the name Gundam.
>>98
You need to give them bigger weapons and increase their equipment.
Flashy spear or something.
In the play, it felt like the Federation at the top was treating the White Base as a troublesome entity, which was a bit considerate.
Is the anti-Zabi faction saying that Commander Gihren killed his father and then was killed by Lady Kishiria?
Sharia being made a one-time guest and having Colonel Char become infatuated with an original character named Lala is definitely a sign that there are Sharia haters among the production staff…
Basically, it was a domination of original characters, but to ultimately make the Federation win, it seems that we need to do at least this much.
Even the legitimate history of Zeon has been beaten back into space.
If the Gundam hadn’t been stolen, the Federation could have won.
If the Gundam hadn’t been stolen, the Federation would have won.
Crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap
>>102
I felt the strength of this kind of thought here and there.
>>102
It’s impossible since Hero Char is already on the move, give up.
>>102
Well, even if the Gundam isn’t stolen, there aren’t any decent pilots in the Federation, so it’s impossible anyway.
That’s why I went out of my way to prepare an original character.
>>112
There were pilots in the Federation who also flew the 01, right?
I forgot the name, but…
It seems that even the Federation’s producers were unsure about how strong Char should be portrayed.
>>105
In the beginning, I felt that it was quite considerate that I didn’t suffer any fatal injuries thanks to the armor.
>>105
It’s impossible in MS battles, but if it’s a real fight, I can win! Making me go that far is a bit…
Since there are subsidies from the government, the content and rights issues are fine.
I don’t know what the purpose of the propaganda is.
It’s more natural for heroes to be strong than for the kids around here to be strong.
>>113
It’s scary and tragic how the kids around here have become like killing machines.
I wonder if this is what would happen if a kid piloted a Gundam in reality…
Who is this guy named Gene?
It’s not such an overwhelming victory, so I believe that just one mistake with the buttons can change history.
But really, isn’t this original character a bit too outrageous?!
I think that Garma-sama being assassinated by Char is at a level where it can’t be helped if there are lawsuits.
It seems that Zion values freedom of expression too much, so they won’t do it, but it’s too generous…
The appearance of Shaliable feels malevolent.
To be honest, it’s strange how much of a difference there is that even without this original character, the Zeon could have won in the historical facts.
Well, we are winning, though.
But I like the design of the Gelgoog.
The guy treated as the final boss without legs is a bit uncool, though.
>>122
I think it’s definitely lame to have your feet on the ground, and I like that it’s a demonstration of Char’s high skill to operate it on the spot and even use the psycommu.
>>122
It’s fun to see the legendary machines in action.
But I really like this Gelgoog MS.
Was this actually deployed in combat in historical fact?
No matter how different the character design is, Sharia Blue is too old.
The pilot shortage in the federation is so serious that they’re even fabricating characters like Sayla Mass, and it’s quite laughable.
The Federation is losing because they are doing political correctness by forcing in female characters just to lower the status of original characters.
The Jet Streaming Attack isn’t historically accurate, is it?
>>129
It seems to be a MAV element.
Too air-headed…
>>129
It seems that various tactics such as three-man cells and solo tactics were studied before the establishment of MAV.
It wouldn’t be strange if it actually happened at the site level.
>>129
Don’t stream it.
>>129
What are you streaming?
Despite making a lot of heavy mobile armors, it’s a bit much to have them all defeated by just one Gundam.
>>132
In the upcoming feature film, it seems this original character will ride Steel Jeeg.
It’s the worst to include footage of the colony drop along with the narration at the beginning of each episode.
It’s like the Zeon are the villains.
>>133
It’s still politically sensitive there, so it’s better to avoid touching on it too much…
In the first place, a battleship that is only manned by teenagers can’t be operated properly.
Is it Bifam?
Isn’t the fact that Zeon’s ultimate weapon is the Zogok kind of straightforward?
And there’s not enough.
>>138
The fact that it can shoot beams from my fingers and is wired too, what’s the point of this…
>>143
Why wired…? Psychommu is fine, right?
>>143
I wonder why they made the wired communication weapon the final boss at a time when they could actually create a bit machine.
Putting civilians’ kids in MS to create killing machines, doesn’t the Federation have any humanity?
>>139
There’s no way a kid would ride a Gundam in reality.
>>142
For example, a soldier accidentally getting mugged by a kid while experimenting with a new model…? That would definitely be too foolish, right?
It’s unrealistic for a Gundam to be left with the hatch open like that.
>>144
Well, it seems that’s based on historical fact.
>>144
That is a historical fact…
>>148
I think it’s fine to have something like this since I’m already tired of the Char’s hero saga, and the storytelling is quite interesting.
Well… if they do a sequel, it seems like Char might become even more of a pathetic character.
>>147
There was a theory about Char being a lolicon, right?
>>152
Is it an anti for Lady Kishiria?
What’s with the utter lack of coolness in Zeon’s Zim City?
That’s the castle of the villain from a super robot show, right?
The development of ZION’s MS is lost in confusion.
It’s understandable that historical facts are strange, but it really exposes the casual fans, doesn’t it? Gundam was managed like that.
Well, I’m glad they didn’t turn Char into a female version.
I suppose even Char has realized that it’s unreasonable to use the wireless psychommu on a whim…
There could have been a more natural way to introduce the manual falling in front of me.
The line when the original character rode a Gundam for the first time.
It seems that the lines Char was mumbling were really bad.
>>158
Before Gundam, Char rode in a Zaku, and when he says “more than five times the energy gain,” you can understand that it’s a comparison with the Zaku.
If a regular person says that as it is, it becomes a line with a lot of points to criticize…
I think Dozle was given quite a delicious role, but it felt like there was resentment towards the other Zabi family members.
When depicted like this, Newtypes are just too unfair.
>>163
I understand.
Those dangerous guys should be dealt with.
I think the production team felt despair when they hit a wall while considering where to start flipping things over and ended up at Gundam.
Even though it’s an alternate history, isn’t it strange to mass-produce an original model like the Jim instead of a light cannon? I think the author’s imagination is running wild.
It just doesn’t feel right that Char would assassinate Garma-sama…
>>167
Is it really okay to kill Lady Kycilia…?
Well, even thinking about it now, honestly, the Colony Drop was just too much…
>>168
The Marine Corps is bad.
The author probably didn’t see Garma-sama crying seriously at the state funeral.
It’s excessive for the original character to defeat Char in a sword fight with their own body.
In that final scene, would General Gillian really shoot Deikin with the Colony Laser or some other outrageous weapon? In reality, there was a significant protest from the Zeon side.
>>175
To be honest, if there were that situation, General Gihren would definitely shoot.
>>177
If Lord Dozul were here, he would stop it… Yes… Lord Dozul…
Why did you have to die, Lord Dozle…?
In fact, there are rumors that Garma-sama got angry and tried to stop this work.
It’s only because Lady Kinshiria permitted it that we can see it now.
I really like the scene where the Gundam dies as a machine, leaving behind the Core Fighter.
It’s good that you’ll settle things since in reality, I’m missing.
The design of Zoom City is malicious, right?
After escaping from the shelter, I happened to encounter a Federation soldier who had a Gundam manual, and when he exploded, the manual miraculously fell right in front of me, carried by the wind.
>>180
I actually like this because it’s proof that if a miracle like this doesn’t happen, it won’t become an IF scenario.
I wondered if there were such residents in Side 7… and when I looked into it, they are all treated as deceased…
Big Zam is really strong.
>>183
Even if they can’t be mass-produced, one can’t help but be impressed by how much they thrash around.
>>185
I can’t help but feel that this is a turning point beyond the existence of Gundam…
It’s interesting precisely because it’s unrealistic.
>>186
I was actually moved by the one-on-one battle between that Zakrello and the Gundam with a weird lower body.
>>186
No, but having only new recruits and civilians operate the battleship is crossing the line, isn’t it?
If there hadn’t been a scenario where Char stole the Gundam, Zeon definitely would have lost.
Even though they were absolute losers, those thieves, the Zeon.
The Federation hasn’t lost yet, definitely hasn’t lost.
There’s no way they’re not mass-producing something as effective as the Big Zam.
Of course, you can’t drop Luna Two.
Shin’s determination to stop Granada for the sake of protecting Kyshiriya, only to shoot her with a bazooka, is way too much hate fiction…
There’s a considerable gap, like being able to win even after stealing a Gundam…
I somehow won… Long live Char!
The Federation is making too many Gundams.
If there are that many, losing one or two won’t be a big problem anymore.
Even though Gundam is strong as an MS, it was the addition of the Psycommu that allowed for such impressive feats…
It’s impossible without a plan.
I saw it, but I wondered if the M.A.V. tactics didn’t come up and the depiction was just a hassle.
Isn’t the scale of the Gundam kind of off?
What kind of bomb can blow up a Gundam? The Zaku machine gun doesn’t even work on it!
The Federation recognizes Zeon’s independence, and despite being fiction, they probably hesitated to alter that aspect.