Was it not that interesting?

It’s sad for the doll! I don’t understand the meaning.

>>4

Isn’t it strange that gynoids, who are almost indistinguishable from humans (although their physical abilities may surpass those of humans), have no human rights?

Even so, it made 1 billion thanks to the Ghibli effect.

Most of the customers probably didn’t understand anything.

>>5

It’s a bit late to ask, but why Studio Ghibli?

>>55

You’ll understand if you watch the movie.

I like you.

Even now, the spirits appear and I keep seeing them repeatedly.

After that, it goes back to the beginning.

>>6

Um… the part where you say “I’ll begin…” is nice too…

I want them to collect it elsewhere and make more of this kind.

Even with 1 billion, they haven’t been able to recover it…

Did you spend that much money on it…?

It’s fine to say that the doll is unfortunate.

The attitude of being indifferent to the fact that a human died because the doll went berserk feels really unbelievable.

Putting aside the perverts, the local police officers really have it tough.

The visuals are amazing even now because we gathered top animators of the time.

As a result, it ended up in a huge deficit…

In the scenes where the eye-catching dog appears, I can’t take my eyes off for even a second.

It is drawn with an extraordinary attachment.

I heard you recouped it on DVD.

Both the animation and sound have incredible quality, even after 20 years.

Oshii did whatever he wanted using Ghibli and Nippon TV.

I thought that without Kazunori Ito, there would be no flair.

Nippon Television is trying to make the second Hayao Miyazaki by having them create Sky Crawlers afterwards.

>>18

Wasn’t there anyone who could say that it wouldn’t be like that from the original work?

>>19

In reality, I only quote anime, manga, and erotic dreams, so I am regressing compared to the future image in the thread.

>>34

The detective from the jurisdiction who starts saying something like “It’s 114514…”

The previous work was quite easy to understand, including where it came from, which adds to the gap even more.

I want them to hold IMAX screening events.

Oshii himself has stated that the year when Howl’s Moving Castle, Innocence, and Steamboy were released was the peak of the anime bubble.

After this, it will rapidly deflate due to the Lehman Shock.

>>23

When comparing the details in Howl and Ponyo, there are various things to perceive…

>>23

After this, no one but Shun could make a proper feature film, so it was a brief peak.

It was one of the more flashy actions for an Oshii work.

>>24

This movie gets noisy with the action scenes just when it’s getting boring, so it’s actually more entertainment than GIS; the complexity of the dialogue is just noise.

I hadn’t been to the movies in a while, but I cried during the hacking scene at the end.

Innocence and Steamboy were interesting.

I still see it sometimes.

I think the main point is quite simple considering the amount of information.

>>28

They’re really doing a proper detective drama, aren’t they?

There are too many things stuck to each other…

I wanted a little more explanation about how Hikari went on a rampage because of Kim’s last fart.

>>29

How do I explain this in a way that’s even clearer than the description of Kim’s will being displayed at the same time as Hadari’s rampage starts…?

It’s strangely amusing to see Batou being silly.

I wonder why Kim had planted a virus in Loxus Solus.

Is it acceptable that the doll is perfect but was tarnished by ghost dubbing?

>>31

Because they are company-employed hackers, were they also wary of being eliminated instead?

A 2-meter tall cyborg in love with a colleague aunt who died cannot possibly sell.

A middle-aged man’s journey of self-discovery.

The really boring one is Sky Crawlers.

The day they promoted such a cult movie on Sukkiri at Nippon TV was really something…

>>37

Sankou is nice, isn’t it…

Guardian angel…

Even just watching the visuals in a daze is impressive, and I recommend it if you want to see it.

Still in the red, there’s nothing I can do about it.

Batou’s Heartbroken Diary: Emotionally Attached to Dolls and Dogs Rather than Humans After Losing Major.

I don’t think there will ever be another work that has this level of animator resources poured into it, so I believe it will be a piece that remains in the history of anime.

How much is it costing?

>>47

That can also be said for SAC.

>>92

I want to say that to Patlabor too.

>>106

Well, I like both the original work and the anime as different things…

It’s common knowledge in Oceania!

The animation is amazing, but it’s not flashy, and overall the CG stands out more, so it doesn’t feel like an animated show.

>>49

It’s not a significant scene in terms of the story, but…

I saw on Twitter that the scene where the forensic department head says “Doesn’t it look fun?” was apparently very difficult in terms of animation, but I can’t find the original post.

>>53

You can listen to it in the audio commentary.

I was in charge of a new animator, but the video director, Mr. Okiura, kept requesting retakes and ended up sending me to the hospital.

When I watch, the stride differs based on the height of the forensic personnel, and there are differences in the swaying of their upper bodies. Some personnel are moving without stopping, bending down and ducking under the elbow of Ishikawa’s raised hand, making some outrageous movements.

I’ve seen it about three times, but to be honest, I don’t remember any of the story…

>>50

The story is about a robot dealer colluding with the yakuza to engage in human trafficking while bribing government officials to keep them silent by giving them money and robots.

The visuals are amazing, but they are just so amazing that I don’t really feel any particular part that I like.

Oshii is good at wrestling in other people’s rings…

The amazing animation is around the final doll battle.

If you say something is out because it has an original source, then everything from Studio Ghibli would be disqualified too…

The sound quality is really wonderful.

Sky Crawlers is the name given by the original author.

At the point when the movie production started, only the first film, which corresponds to the conclusion of the saga, had been completed, and it ends with the protagonist shooting that female commander and being committed to a psychiatric hospital. Therefore, Oshii’s decision to interpret and conclude the existence of the Kildren in that way as entertainment was not a mistake.

How much huge production cost did they spend…?

It’s not a hobby I can boast about to the world, but it’s not illegal.

>>63

What suddenly?

I had a feeling that this was definitely not going to sell, yet I went ahead with it anyway…

>>65

Well, that’s the kind of company it is.

>>65

I had no choice because I got the sponsor to provide funding on the condition that they wouldn’t interfere with the script…

I don’t really understand it, but I watch it once a year.

The content is just about a middle-aged police officer whose work and personal life have become dull and who takes on a somewhat bigger case.

>>67

Despite the lack of tension, I’ve done things like massacre the Yakuza and charge into their headquarters alone.

The puppet song is really good…

>>62

Wasn’t it Inoue Ei?

Okiura is the part where the last child cries out to Batou.

I think I’ll watch it every time it’s rebroadcast, so I record it, but I haven’t watched it even once.

It’s about time to watch it, isn’t it?

“20th Anniversary of ‘Innocence’ – Mr. Mitsuhisa Ishikawa reveals his conversation with Director Mamoru Oshii about the ‘unrecouped production costs’ and states, ‘If we make a sequel, we can recover everything.'”

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2374307/full/

The pamphlet featuring the interview where Oshii and Suzuki are dissing each other is a treasure.

Since the Yomiuri Shimbun is also a sponsor, it was interesting to be able to read the production notes in the evening edition at the time.

Kise-san observes the wrinkles in other customers’ clothes and sketches them even when drinking at an izakaya.

The conversation in the quote isn’t really falling apart, and isn’t saying anything that difficult, right…?

>>76

It’s like the trivia and casual talk between the panels of the original work.

The Steam Boy that had double that applied…

I didn’t dislike it…

As a personal assessment, it’s a movie that is visually impressive, but I can’t say it’s interesting.

I was really glad to see the revival screening at Live ZOUND in Kawasaki Chinchitta.

It’s rather empty considering the amount of information.

>>81

It can be said that it is the pinnacle of the atmosphere-world genre.

It’s a good memory that Oshii appeared on “Itomo” during the time of Sky Crawlers.

If you’re going to go with the overseas release version later, you should have just put GIS2 on it from the beginning, Producer…

The other day, I went to the 4K remaster release.

After all, I like this movie, and I think I’ll still be watching it in ten years.

>>86

I went to see it too, but I was really exhausted.

The naval gunfire scenes that don’t have any particular meaning in the story are impressive, but it’s like, what’s the point?

The visuals do not engage with the story.

>>87

It’s completely Oshii’s taste, but since he’s artificially recreating nightmares, there’s no problem even if nothing is coherent.

>>87

The trap that Kim set doesn’t just confine someone to the same loop, but gradually becomes more intense, leading to madness… Togusa-kun was getting cornered more and more…

1984 Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind 280 million yen

1989: Kiki’s Delivery Service – Approximately 400 million yen

1997 Princess Mononoke approximately 2.35 billion yen

1999 Ho-Ho-Kekyo: Mr. Yamada Next Door – Approximately 2.36 billion yen

I thought Princess Mononoke was amazing, and then there’s my neighbor Yamada-kun…!?

>>88

It’s Park-san, right?

>>88

I wonder if Princess Mononoke was interesting and so was My Neighbor Totoro…!

>>148

I think it became that way.

Those who saw it didn’t talk about Yamada-kun, and even the New Year’s special only had one celebratory screening, so I hadn’t even heard any bad reviews…

A movie that’s not boring but incredibly sleepy.

I don’t have two hours, but it feels like time is passing very slowly while I’m watching.

Maybe there’s too much sound and video information, and my brain is trying too hard.

Therefore, it should feel like the perfect movie when viewed after the generalization of cyberization.

It’s impressive to see someone barging into a yakuza office while carrying a mini-mini.

Whether it has a refreshing kind of fun or not.

>>94

It’s a discussion.

>>94

Avoiding gunfire…

So I avoided it as much as possible (light machine gun full-auto spray).

>>115

Go for it, point man! (almost flesh and blood)

>>119

What I wanted was to make Togusa smaller, putting that aside.

No matter what kind of attack comes, Togusa in his real body would almost instantly die.

Don’t you think it’s better to have Batou take the lead?

A movie that truly embodies the idea that likes and dislikes are separate from what is good and bad.

Even those who say they like it won’t say it’s good.

If you say there’s a lack of explanation in this movie, the original Ghost in the Shell will turn into a code disguised as a manga.

I really like the part where the forensic team bursts into the house of the dead rich person.

I thought anime was not good at depicting movements in the background or foreground.

I love siege battles with a semi-auto in the last battle.

It cannot be denied that there are opinions saying it is not interesting.

I think this work resonates with people who consider themselves to be understanding of Oshii.

Honestly, I watch the entire Ghost in the Shell series, not just Innocent, without understanding what they are saying.

>>103

The complexity of the original work 2 is often cited.

To be honest, I don’t have the confidence to assert that I fully understand the speech of the puppet master.

I was wondering if there are people who prefer dolls with ghosts in them over humans.

It seems like there are probably people like that in modern times…

>>105

Robots laugh not out of affection, but because of programming.

Recently, humans are like that too.

It seems connected, but maybe the ghost dubbing has a better nuance of reaction…

I like Innocence, but I could only think “what is this?” about Stand-Up Gourmet Legend, so I think there are varying levels of Oshii fans.

Even before the gunshot scene while shopping at the convenience store, the visual impact is incredible.

Watching the 4K remaster, I finally understood the saying “Mamoru Oshii’s films are watched 100 times by one person.”

They have properly prepared exciting scenes and are considerate of entertainment.

After hearing the story from the unnamed person, I found that it explained things more thoroughly than I expected.

>https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2374307/full/

Even Concorde has come to an end.

The main storyline itself is a typical crime suspense.

The scene composition is similar to Pat 1, so it should lean more towards entertainment, but…

Speaking of which, there’s a new Ghost in the Shell anime coming out next year, right?

It’s an advertisement that seems to imagine the original work, but I wonder what it’s really like.

The girls that come out, including Hadari, are just too unattractive.

Even Togusa’s daughter feels like it’s infused with Oshii’s malice.

>>127

The dog is incredibly cute and too realistic…

Is this where my relationship with that lady ends?

>>125

Even Confucius said that it’s good to watch your favorite works as many times as you want.

This is a movie where you think the director has no intention of conveying any entertainment to the audience…

I like to watch considering that.

I want the new work to be made closer to the original.

It feels like we’ve thoroughly exhausted both the Oshii style and the TV series.

The original short story has been stretched out and filled with tedious conversations, so it’s no wonder it’s boring.

Although it’s said that the dialogue in each work is difficult to understand, I think it flows easily with subtitles.

I didn’t watch ARISE because I was prejudiced against it, but it was interesting.

I don’t know why it’s submerged.

IG Ishikawa is as much of a swindler as Ghibli’s Suzuki, so you shouldn’t take his statements seriously.

(Although it’s actually finished for various topic creation, if we mention the production costs for 4K conversion, naturally) it remains unrecouped.

and so on

(I’m working on the third work, but since it hasn’t been released, if we include the production costs of the third work, then it’s naturally) not recovered.

He is a man who could possibly be that way.

It had an image of being plain, philosophical, and difficult to understand…

When I first saw it, the visuals were extravagant, and there were quite a few flashy action scenes, like the gunfight scenes, which were super cool and surprised me.

I want to see something closer to the original work, but I wonder if it will appeal to anyone other than fans of the original.

>>142

If we do the slug mating scene under the supervision of Masamune Shirow as in the original, it should be fine.

You can’t kill a cyborg with just two grenades.

Are you mocking me? (Shooting with a submachine gun)

I love all the scenes in Attack the Wakabayashi.

Bato’s first-person perspective orange UI is too cool.

The sound effect when the circle spins is also nice.

I love the crab Yakuza’s claws, as they are the best kind of stupid weapon.

>>146

Such elements of cyberpunk that appear here and there are what make it good.

>>149

But that’s military-grade…

At that time, it was ranked in the movie corner of King’s Branch.

It had a certain level of box office revenue, and various versions of the DVD were released and sold well.

I just saw the original recently, and Batou is saying completely different things.

>>151

The original Batou has a girlfriend and his mental state is healthy.

>>151

Well, the character of Batou has changed in the GIS point, and the timing of this incident in the original work and the movie is completely different.

Bato’s perception of ghosts and cyborg bodies has completely changed.

Since Lawson is a sponsor, there were POP displays of Batou holding a dog at Lawson locations here and there.

Bato from Innocence is at his mental limit…

Innocence’s Batou’s consciousness has shifted more towards being a robot rather than a human.

Wasn’t there a story about how Oshii is trusted because he can pay off no matter how reckless he gets?

Innocence was no good, huh?

I wonder if the labor from TNG’s national tour ended up in the black.

I’m looking forward to the next Ghost in the Shell as it seems to be closer to the original work.

To be honest, I wonder if it’s true that after spending so much money, it hasn’t been recovered even after 20 years?

>>160

Estimated 2 billion spent, still estimated 1 billion.

Oshii and the others were convinced at the preview screening that this wouldn’t attract an audience!

>>167

Even though they have an eye for visuals, they have no intention of attracting customers…

>>160

Assuming that the production cost of 2 billion written on the surf clam is true.

I think it’s difficult to exceed 2 billion even when adding the 300 million after excluding the theater’s share from the 1 billion in revenue, plus the DVD sales.

According to the audio commentary, the girl was intentionally made to look unattractive.

Even though they were rescued from the ghost dubbing device, they were still complaining that it was cute.

Despite being an anime from 2004, Innocence doesn’t look old at all in terms of its art and props, which is impressive.

The scene of the investigation meeting is also good.

Walk in solitude.

Do no evil.

The demands are few.

Like an elephant in the forest.

It was the words of Buddha.

“You don’t need to become Oshii to understand Oshii’s intention.”

That is Inoki.

People who go to see movies want to watch more flashy and straightforward action films…

So that’s why I stopped seeing the name.

aemeth

As an interpretation of the original work that has gone through GIS, I don’t think it’s pushed and altered to the extent that Oshii’s influence is overwhelming.

Is Mokoto going to appear in the pre-release promotions!? Or not!? I can’t help but feel that they were really hyping it up, but I also thought it was a bit much.

The anime struggles with a kind of dilemma regarding cyborg bodies and cybernetics, but the original work is relatively positive and upbeat.

Although GIS is a different character from Major, it was still part of Ghost in the Shell, right?

I think Mamoru Oshii once said that all of his works have recouped their production costs, but they’re actually in the red.

I think “Angel’s Egg” is trash as both a work and a product, but I believe “Innocence” is a good film.

I don’t mind, or rather, I actually like quoting classics, but you don’t have to provide details about the source or elaborate explanations!!

It’s so embarrassing that I’m listening to this.

>>178

“How can a sparrow know the ambitions of a swan?”

It’s true that a good movie and an interesting movie are not the same.

>>179

Movies that sell even more are different.

Angel’s Egg has amazing visuals, but without prior knowledge, it’s incomprehensible, and if you get into it, it’s creepy, so it’s no wonder it gets sidelined and receives harsh criticism from all directions.

I watched it back-to-back from GITS at the film festival, and I really enjoyed it!

Is there a difference between children who do not belong to society and dolls? Starting from this, what is the individual of those who can always reference classical works and converse because they are connected to cyberspace? And in the end, isn’t a doll that contains the ghost of a human not a human?

The amount of information in the visuals was incredible, and my head was really tired, but I was very satisfied. It’s important to properly invest money in works like this.

>>182

The fatigue after watching must be immense.

When I rewatched it recently, I noticed that after the major appears, Batou’s voice sounds really happy and lively, and it made me a bit emotional.

I wonder if I’ve gotten old…

It’s a memorable movie because it’s the first one I’ve fallen asleep during.

As someone who loves anime CG, I wish there were more anime with visuals like this.

There are many recent animations that use a lot of CG, but I feel like there aren’t many with visuals like the one in the thread.

>>186

It seems that it has been repeatedly mentioned in this thread that the money has not been recovered.

In the end, it’s because they’re spending an incredible amount of money.

It is unlikely that any high-budget works will come out in this class in the future.

If you ignore the commercial aspects, it’s an amazing movie.

Last month, they had a revival screening at Cinecitta, and I went to see it.

Compared to the Ghost in the Shell we did together, the director’s intensity has suddenly increased.

The dialogue filled with quotes and the content of the puppetry songs are honestly hard to understand on the first viewing, but there is an interesting aspect to looking back and researching later.

This might be a trap of some kind.

Since I was a fan of the original work, I thought about the relationship between Batou and Motoko and was like “hmm?” but I was convinced that Oshii’s idea about the movie is probably similar to Tomino’s.

In the end, movies are all about men and women.

If you disregard profitability, it would become an amazing visual work.

The world is usually bound by money, so it’s impossible.

This movie is amazing because it is the exception.

But I’m sleepy.

Anonymous beings who have been cyberized and continuously speak by quoting anime and erotic dreams.

>>193

It’s not much different from now.

They say a tremendous amount of money is being spent, but when you compare it to Hollywood movies…

Shall we talk about work soon?

If you could make a profit from 1 billion copies, that would definitely be amazing.

I feel like advertising posters often capture the essence of a work in a single image.

The picture shows that the main character is darkened in the shadows, which seems to suggest that you are just a facilitator of the story’s progression and not really the main character.

It’s not that I’m getting sleepy, it’s just that the amount of information coming into my brain is too much, and it tires me out.