…What tears? Half of humanity has died because of the foolish people who supported the Principality of Zeon. My father was also killed by the state’s deceit.
If I had a calm mindset, I wouldn’t seek revenge.
What I like about being anonymous is that it’s a just revenge.
Without legitimacy, one cannot feel good.
>>2
It’s really not feeling good, thread image.
>>2
Rather, it feels like good deeds and punishment come first, with revenge being an option.
There are quite a few people who think it’s a given and just a package deal.
“This is not revenge because it doesn’t align with my sense of justice or ethics.”
>>43
It’s boring to watch, an unjustified revenge.
>>43
What’s actually interesting about it?
>>47
I think there are content types that involve enjoying the spectacle of destruction.
>>51
It’s just that the person reading it has a bad personality.
>>53
That’s right!
That is the essence of being human!!
It is logically incorrect, but the emotions are right.
Well, whether it’s misplaced resentment or whatever, if the hatred and grudge within the person are genuine, it won’t change the fact that it’s still revenge.
It’s more like a grudge or misplaced anger.
It’s something said by a person who isn’t calm, so of course…
Even if you say you supported me…
It’s just that I was living there…
>>8
Isn’t that what revenge is all about, not being able to stop at just good arguments?
But there should be people who didn’t vote for the Zabi family!
>>10
The decent people are already dead!
It’s the venting of a madman, but well, targeting an unspecified majority for revenge is just like that.
It has been considered crazy since its first appearance.
Is there an election in a principality?
Well, it’s true that both the Federation and Zeon, as well as Anaheim, should all perish, right?
The option to think calmly is excluded the moment a dispute or fight occurs.
You said there would be a dramatic development next time.
Maybe I was wrong with my empathy for NT, Darryl, revenge is not good!
You understood, Carla!
Darryl!
In that scene, I slipped and pressed the button, launching the solar ray.
After having my father killed and trying to preserve the technology he left behind, I was forced to have it repurposed for military use. Just as I was about to accept a surrender proposal, I was ambushed. The friends I trusted were only after my technology, so it’s understandable that I would feel like saying, “Seriously, you guys are ridiculous.”
If you’re going to attack the supporter base, you’ll need to use something like Angel Halo.
If you’re going to take revenge, it should at least be against the Zabi family or the military.
>>20
It’s up to the avenger to decide that…
>>25
That’s what I’m saying, it doesn’t feel refreshing…
>>26
But even if we just kill the Zabi family and the military, Carla probably won’t feel satisfied…
Even in real incidents, the root cause and the target of revenge often differ…
I wonder what I would say to persuade Io if they were here.
>>22
Speaking of which, Io also died because of what my dad started with Zeon…
I’ll shoot both of them.
Well, although they are called innocent civilians, I sometimes think it was you all who chose the leaders.
Isn’t it okay to show you something I’ve drawn for a change?
It is useless to seek logic in something that cannot be emotionally accepted.
In the first place, it is emotions that guarantee the justice of revenge.
>>28
The difference between revenge and retribution lies in that aspect as well.
Revenge is always carried out driven by emotions, while retaliation is not necessarily based on emotions.
In the anime “The Kingdom of Destruction,” the protagonist was also committing mass murder of ordinary citizens for the same reason.
I thought it was unreasonable as I watched.
If the country starts a war and we follow, if we lose, we will also be the victims caught up in it.
You can’t get by without this level of mental strength.
If the people of the Islamic State hold a grudge, it would probably be against the core of the opposing regime at that time.
Indiscriminate terrorism killed civilians without regard.
>>31
Those guys are also condemned by the same Islamist terrorist organizations.
>>34
I’m not talking about that kind of story.
It’s just a story about how such avengers actually exist in reality.
It’s a motivation for a final boss type that can’t be sympathized with, saying humanity is foolish rather than having any justification, because the actions are based on emotion rather than logic.
>>32
The reason I can’t empathize is simply because it doesn’t align with my own sense of justice and values.
I couldn’t care less about other people’s condescending criticism! That’s the thrill of being a character seeking revenge.
If you hate Zeon, you end up hating the people as well.
It’s your fault for bringing back something that was once broken to hell again.
Zion will kill.
I’ll kill the fools who supported Zeon.
Those who didn’t support Zeon are still foolish people who turned a blind eye, so they will be killed.
Balanz also has some similar aspects…
I’m not very familiar with the original setting.
Why is the Zabi family establishing a dynasty in a country built by Char’s father?
>>42
Daikun is just a prime minister.
After he died from illness, the Zabi family did as they pleased.
Hahaha!!
I’m not kidding!
Once the colony has fallen, there’s nothing we can do.
If the protagonist’s revenge is too misplaced, it will be painful, but I can enjoy the revenge of side characters or enemies.
>>50
I actually like it when a misunderstanding leads to mass murder and ends in despair.
>>59
Did you see that recent episode?
But the responsibility of the country is the responsibility of its citizens…
>>52
If you say that, then the picture in the thread is also a citizen, right?
>>54
Let’s go with the feeling of taking responsibility.
Well, if you’re saying that much, then I guess you don’t have to watch it…
There are actually people who can’t enjoy fiction.
Scary
“Well, watching Kara herself is enjoyable, but…”
When it comes to something like this, there’s no choice but to keep suffering whether you take revenge or not.
As for the thread image, it was so terrible that it wouldn’t be surprising if the entire Zeon populace were to be killed…
>>62
Not to that extent.
>>65
My father was killed, and I was sent to hell.
If I were made to be the cause of the monster’s mother and lead the dismemberment of limbs without my permission.
It will probably lead to killing Zeon…
Since they were used as tools, all I can say is that they should be allowed to take revenge as humans.
At this point, it’s more boring that Darryl can’t make up his mind…
It’s the guy who wanted the technology that’s to blame for dragging me back when I was escaping from reality through infantile regression.
In the end, it’s just that the character’s feelings are only just covering up the fact that the story failed to convincingly justify itself.
>>67
I think that regarding Carla, or rather most of the main characters in Sambo, they are depicted without any intention of giving them legitimacy from the start.
>>71
Because things like this are happening, it’s a sequence where this character thinks this way and acts accordingly, right?
>>71
It became like this because of the war…
There are no clear heroes or justice, and everyone is depicted as characters driven mad by war and killing each other.
>>67
No?
Whether justified or not, revenge is still revenge.
If you turn it around, revenge doesn’t become the right thing just because it is revenge.
It was fine at first, wasn’t it?
At least my conscience was troubled.
Do characters’ emotions need justification?
>>69
There might be people who can’t distinguish between reality and manga.
Shut up~
I don’t care anymore, I just want to mess up the world~
The thread image is interesting, so it’s good regardless of whether it’s good or bad.
I think it’s understandable that the emotions of wanting this world to become chaotic take precedence over reason in the thread image.
I have already received that much treatment.
Without the Federation, there would be no space colonization…
Shouldn’t it be the Earthlings that should be extinct?
This guy’s revenge is insane, so it should be fun to watch.
Since it’s a parallel based on past series, I find it intriguing as a story to see how it will land.
Maybe I understand how the person who says “Let’s stop the revenge!” feels.
I understand Carla’s feelings of wanting to kill all of them, and I also understand Io’s feelings of wanting that damn cult to just die already.
I just can’t understand what Daryl is thinking or what he wants to do…
>>82
I want to rampage with the Psycho Zaku, but deep down I’m serious and don’t want to do anything wrong.
That’s why I truly want to believe in the justice given to me by the monk and be a champion of justice!
>>82
Daryl is simply a victim of war with a talent for piloting, but he is also a victim of religion, illuminated by the light of the monk, intoxicated by a just cause, unable to be close to Carla, and there is no saving him anymore.
>>82
The principle of action being for others… is something that was described as self-deprecating in the character book.
In the latest episode, Carla bluntly revealed it.
I came here for others (Kara, the monk, a future without AE), but now it seems to be heading toward the worst route of Pitagora.
The lack of autonomy leads to the worst outcomes.
Is a response battle starting in a thread like this? Is the public level from the Universal Century?
Is Kara’s feeling of wanting to take revenge on Zeon itself justified?
So, it’s confused whether the act of massacring ordinary citizens is justified or not.
>>86
It’s nice how even if you accomplish it or get stopped, once you calm down, you might feel like an empty shell from the explosive energy.
>>86
It’s not anything special.
It appears that way because you are thinking of justice as revenge.
>>93
At least for Carla’s current perspective, revenge on Zeon and the extermination of the people are inseparable and one and the same.
The underlying causes of the chaos after the war being largely around the hero’s friends is quite terrible.
Kara’s madness leads to the monster’s mother route & the traitor spy’s glasses being shot by allies, breaking down and falling into religion as the former girlfriend who serves as the organizer of the South Sea Alliance.
If Megane hadn’t done unnecessary things over there, Carla would have died, you know.
Regarding countries that practice democracy, there is also war responsibility for their citizens who pretend to be innocent.
I think it’s a reasonable line of thinking from the perspective of popular sovereignty.
The question is whether Zeon is actually promoting it or not.
Back then, there were children who had no voting rights, and now it seems that children who are still young are also being caught up in this…
It’s not like Carla is portrayed as justice at all.
It’s just portrayed as a character who went on a rampage with a reason that makes you understand why they would want to kill all the Zeon citizens.
Well, there’s no point in reasoning with someone who’s angry, so we either wait until they calm down or fight back thoroughly.
There haven’t been many characters who have taken this direction regarding Zeon, so it’s refreshing.
>>94
Considering what I’ve done, it would be nice to have even more!
>>94
The claim of “being a victim drawn into the war after supporting it” probably applied quite a bit to post-war Japanese people, making it difficult to address.
Now that most of the wartime generation has passed away, we can do it.
>>141
I often hear this, but I think it’s ridiculous that while the military dictatorship restricted the political participation of the people, they still try to shift the blame onto all Japanese people.
>>150
Japan was practicing democracy enough to have a change of government even during the war.
Before the war, the newspapers were also heavily inciting the war.
>>173
I destroyed newspapers that were against the war.
>>173
I think the fact that popular music at the time was military songs adds to the overall convincing atmosphere of the country’s “we can do it” mood.
If dad were alive, I wouldn’t be seeking revenge.
The one who executed Dad is to blame.
Shall I be forgiven with their heads…?
Is there someone with a filter that makes it seem like there are always good guys and bad guys in a story?
I wonder how they will sort out this chaotic situation.
Usually, you love revenge so much, but now you’re anonymous…
>>98
It would be nice if you could just quote lines from Ganso or JoJo like usual.
If it’s in the revenge or feel-good category, it feels like revenge equals justice.
It’s not that kind of talk.
When I clarify the treatment that Carla received to those who supported the Zabi family at that time, I think, or rather want to think, that a considerable number of them will feel like… that’s not why they supported them…
>>102
I don’t think so.
>>122
Hmm, then I guess I have no choice but to kill you.
>>102
Well, it doesn’t matter to Carla what the citizens of Zeon think anymore…
Daryl’s position is all over the place.
What do you want to do? That’s what it feels like, right?
It’s interesting because it’s rare for someone who used to be from Zeon to feel like they can’t forgive the Republic!
Char is surprisingly straightforward, isn’t he?
Even though they are the last survivors of the Zabi family, they seem to be worried about Mineva.
>>107
I think the incident of killing Garma has quite an impact…
>>116
Hmm, surprisingly sweet man.
>>107
I want to impose a sense of responsibility, but I wonder if the child is truly at fault.
I was angry about the ideological education by Haman.
>>129
Based on the TV’s setting age, even if it really was an assassination, none of the other Zabi family members except Degingiren would be involved, right?
>>148
That doesn’t matter!
Everyone associated with the Zabi family is a target for revenge!
I killed Garma, but somehow… it feels different…
>>129
I also struggled in the position of being Dai-kun’s son, so I probably had enough conscience to dislike causing trouble for children by labeling them as “children of ○○.”
It may be irresponsible, but…
It seems that there are quite a few people who are not good with things where good and evil are not clearly defined…
>>108
I don’t think that kind of person would be reading Sanbol.
>>108
It looks tough for that layer.
>>121
On the contrary, it might be easier to live in a simple world where I have enemies and allies.
Even if I fulfill this revenge, it won’t feel satisfying at all…
>>109
And even if I stop this, I won’t feel refreshed anyway…
It seems that revenge targeting is too broad has been criticized by the nameless ones for some time now.
I don’t know about the books, but I’ve never seen a visual adaptation where Zuum City becomes a battlefield amid all the other places on Earth and other sides that are fighting.
I wish they would cause a big ruckus and destroy that royal palace just once.
>>114
There was infighting among the Zeon factions within Side 3 regarding the Giran assassination plan.
>>114
Kurobongo Ghost: “I’ve destroyed it, by the way, it hasn’t been repaired even in the Dust Age.”
>>114
In the assassination plan of Gihren from the manga, it ultimately became a civil war.
Even if I take revenge, nothing will come back, but it’s irritating to endure.
Karla is interesting to watch, but…
Dai’s dad, Baran, is nothing but unpleasant.
I just can’t seem to like that person.
>>117
Over there, the humans were already making a lot of concessions in the first place.
The one who completely ruined that was the Varuna side (especially Soara)…
The Delaz Fleet claims that the Republic is a traitorous sellout for unilaterally making peace with the Federation, but even so, they are not trying to completely annihilate Side 3.
>>118
It is believed that if the Delazs Plan succeeded, Side 3 would also be hated and used as an enemy of the Federation.
By the way, what was the human casualty situation for Zeon during the One Year War?
The population has definitely halved, and most of those who fell were from the colony and the people on the ground.
>>119
Thousands of people who were dispatched for military service likely died, but everything else was unharmed.
>>152
Can’t there be more works that set the battlefield on Side 3?
Aren’t the Zeon aliens quietly committing massacres?
>>119
No? Most of it is because we destroyed the colonies on the other side.
I don’t have any strong feelings about the lack of good and evil in Sanboru, but I really like the scene where Io loses everything and takes on the protagonist’s mentality.
I think indiscriminate mass murder is not good.
Commander Char, you think so too, right?
Daryl has been told he’s creepy, and this week it was clearly verbalized.
Just because you’re a good person and not thinking about anything.
>>132
I thought I should wrap it in a little more nuance, but it can’t be helped.
>>137
You have to say it that plainly for Daryl to understand.
>>143
Even if I say it, you probably won’t understand.
>>143
Iao is doing it just to develop a military mindset.
Daryl was listening to pop music just because he wasn’t thinking about anything, right?
Well, to be honest, in the context of Sanboru based on the DD theory, if I were to say, “I will purge only the top officials of Zeon who caused the slaughter of the great war!” it would be so just that all I can say is Yeah ×1, so it makes me have to create a character who would say, “I’ll kill civilians too!”
>>134
It’s a work where those who have the rationality to choose who to kill are the ones who die…
Isn’t it unacceptable to say that wide-area extermination is generally prohibited without any talk of revenge?
>>136
So Io is trying hard to stop it…
>>136
What is there to do now in this universe century that has exhausted all means of widespread extermination?
>>136
But you know, it was the Zeon who first dropped the colony.
>>136
Those who stop and say they don’t care about such rules are treated as hypocrites, and stepping over them is basically the essence of a revenge character that likes being anonymous.
It would feel refreshing to annihilate all the Zeon aliens, right?
Daryl just wanted to become a hero and be invincible.
Even though Darryl is a new type, he’s still an ordinary person, so it’s understandable…
I think it’s unavoidable for the Tekkadan to be wiped out, yes.
Since everyone is acting recklessly, I’ve decided to act recklessly too!
Regardless of whether it’s right or wrong, if the current Zeon is crushed, the Federation would be in serious trouble, so it must be stopped.
My current environment has already gone beyond the worst.
There are those who hate the situation that has been created.
If I had a switch in my hand that could kill everyone around me.
I wonder if I can hold back…
Didn’t Side 3 also have a terrible experience?
The family of Jinman and so on.
>>157
The people from the land that was hit by the colony had an even worse experience.
>>165
But the space noids were discriminated against…
>>169
Space Noids also discriminate against Earth Noids, don’t they?
When Amuro found out he was born on Earth, Kai and the others had an attitude like, “Tch, here comes the Earthling.”
If Amuro had been an irreplaceable talent as the pilot of Gundam, I think it would have developed into bullying.
Even if someone says “Hey, Anonymous!”…
(In the original version, Char’s father went crazy, became a total wreck, and ultimately died from weakness, which is the truth.)
It’s a question of whether Japan, which was bombed with atomic bombs, can retaliate in kind.
It’s no good to shoot at Zeon because there are many unrelated people!
If you’re going to do it, do Anaheim! 11111!!!!!
>>161
The Anaheim attack also commonly involves ordinary people getting caught up in it.
The lack of legitimacy is even greater than the revenge in the thread picture…
>>161
Isn’t it true that even the low-level employees at Anaheim are just salarymen who don’t know anything?
The reason for the thread image has been carefully built up.
The good thing is that I can read it with a clear mind, free from any sense of unfairness, compared to when Darryl was happily rampaging.
The difficult thing about Darryl is that he has lost all his limbs, so the place where he can shine the most is in the Psycho Zaku.
When I’m reading it, it feels overall heavy, so it’s fun when someone like Carla gets really angry.
I can’t forgive the Zeon Republic that surrendered in Hasegawa’s Johnny manga.
A crazy engineer who attacked Side 3 saying he would destroy the colony with the Perfect Zaku.
There are also remnants of the Principality of Zeon terrorists called the Iron Hammer who carried out a terrorist attack using a vapor bomb against the Republic.
I’m not saying they should be completely wiped out, but I would like to see the Zeon Republic, which continues to exist in an unrelated zone after the war, face some hardship.
>>174
Your head is turning into a car!
It’s pretty creepy that only one person is trying to join the conversation without a specific character, like an anonymous.
Gays go to gay sites!
Oh no, the guy who really hates Zions is coming!
>>178
What is Zeon, to begin with?
>>178
I think they just want to stir things up in an extreme way, probably just for the sake of emulating it…
It’s nothing but a harmful lunatic, so there’s no choice but to put it down.
It’s troublesome when Japan is criticized in a fictional story.
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