Huh? First principles extremists are emerging one after another in the Reiwa era!?

>>5

Who decided that time moves forward into the future?

>>10

That’s just the law of nature, you fool.

She’s actually quite a bit older than Judo…

To some extent, I was watching Z with the lowest face until around the mid-game.

Please don’t get angry, okay?

Isn’t it all a bit strange from the very beginning?

>>15

Before I knew it, the power balance between AEU and Titans had flipped, and I was confused.

Wasn’t the atmosphere quite desperate with just the two ships, the Argama and the Radish!?

>>18

In terms of evaluations including combat scenes, Z is really at the bottom.

I saw ZZ quite a while later.

You need patience like that of SDGF.

I really like the design of MS the most among all generations.

You can’t let your ally use the colony laser for a turnaround!

>>22

At the time of the 1st, the Federation was using the solar system, right?

I feel that jumping straight from the First Gundam to Char’s Counterattack makes it easier to understand the psychology of Amuro and Char, regardless of the social situation.

>>28

The later parts of the Universal Century feel too much like a cat’s world, making the story…

Let’s talk about the greatness of the gunfight in Z.

There was also a scenario in which we took and used the weapons of mass destruction prepared by the enemy.

I recently saw ZZ for the first time on Abema, and it was interesting.

Z had too much of a struggling story and hardly any refreshing scenes.

Is it the part where we blew away the main forces of Axis and Titans and turned it into a quagmire?

>>33

I think Dakar Day will feel refreshing because the operation will unusually be a smash hit.

Is the same person directing both First Gundam and Z Gundam, even though they have such different vibes?

>>37

The interesting element of the 1st was the sword-fighting, the sword-fighting.

So, Kukurus Doan’s Island is perfectly picked up.

>>45

The 1st still has a strong super robot vibe.

Well, the reason why there was a need to create a sequel is that there were limits to continuing with Gunpla through MSV…

Well, if you think of it as a difference in vibe similar to Zambot and Ideon, or Daitarn.

Everyone loves the feeling of war in the One Year War, which is why virtual war stories continue to thrive in that setting forever.

I haven’t seen the Galus J model in a while, but it’s actually pretty cool…

>>46

Even in hasty construction, there are places with Butchan’s design.

When I hear “Gundam,” I feel like the elements I consciously think of were mostly born around the time of Z.

Even without considering the current prevalence of terrorism, a year seems short in the context of war.

I think there is a difference in the vibe of what’s currently trendy.

The first generation isn’t that easy to understand either, right?

It’s unclear which side Char is on.

Many ordinary people know about Gundam itself, but they often don’t know that Gundam is a combining mecha.

I haven’t seen it yet, but is there going to be a Gundam with a Zaku head?

It seems they decided not to release the Shirocco.

I kind of think that young Camille and little Judau might appear.

Z and ZZ are crap! If someone says that, I would be like, no way…

If it’s said that it’s an unnecessary addition to the story, I can’t deny it.

It’s because it’s business, so there’s no helping it.

I think the discussion around Fou is quite organized.

>>62

Is that so…?

>>62

If you think of it as the final work, it’s a really great ending, isn’t it?

Well, it all gets ruined shortly after with Char’s Counterattack…

>>77

We changed direction because we decided to make a movie…

Certainly, it seems that they originally intended to put a pause at ZZ.

>>62

I think that Hamarn had a rather good death considering the possibilities.

Is ZZ’s reaction in the first half or the second half?

>>80

On what basis are you saying that so confidently?

>>91

Aren’t you stating it clearly?

The robots are cool, and that’s why model kits come out quickly for Gundam.

It might be precisely because it was cut short, but the first one ends beautifully as Amuro’s story.

Z Gundam’s emphasis on the pretenses of war in the early stages felt quite refreshing.

I’m also quite careful even on the side where I let the gas out.

>>68

No… it’s frustrating dealing with that brat, so I never want to see them again…

>>68

The drama portion may divide opinions, but the fact that the combat is quite interesting is significant.

Personally, I think Amuro from Z is just the right level of presence compared to the protagonist from the previous work.

Where can I go to return?

Yeah…

After the good tempo of the beginning of First and Z, it’s understandable that there are complaints about the early part of ZZ.

How much longer are you going to stay in Shangri-La?

🤨 ZZ Early Stage

😃ZZ final stage

The appeal of Judo and the enjoyment of Yao’s voice during its heyday are also significant, ZZ.

ZZ is too sad for Judau despite how it begins.

I like ZZ, but I think the reason is that I watched it right after Z.

It’s just wrong to make the Shangri-La children the vanguard of battle just because the Federation is weakened.

😀 Beginning of Char’s Counterattack

😐 Midpoint of Char’s Counterattack

😒 End of Char’s Counterattack

I suddenly started watching ZZ and it kicked off with a comedic boxing scene.

I was like, “What???”

I have been observing quite a few people who seriously started watching the Universal Century from Zeta Gundam and have ended up like the images in the threads.

It ends in a way that makes Z seem the worst.

Although it has become deeper and more accepted over time,

It’s hard to accept an ending like that on the first try…!

Who is the brat? Beecha?

I do feel a bit nauseous, but it’s not to the extent that I never want to see it again.

It feels like there might be hope at the end of ZZ, but isn’t the Earth Sphere still kind of hopeless…?

Although there are production circumstances, I can’t help but feel that it’s a bit disappointing since Z has been around for so long with both friends and foes, and yet they end up dying.

In that regard, ZZ seems to focus more easily on the protagonists since the enemies other than Gremmy appear only once or have periods where they don’t show up.

I think it doesn’t change much whether it’s in front or behind, it just gives off a slightly different vibe at first glance.

The story of Judo ends beautifully here.

If it were to happen that Grandpa Jupiter decides to give up on the Earth and head into outer space, that would be great…

>>92

Well, if you just hear that part, it sounds a bit off, but when you watch the subsequent Universal Century works, it ends up being like… yeah… something like that.

In “Char’s Counterattack,” it really felt like Tomino finally took off his pants, didn’t it?

ZZ was the hardest because of the outdated style.

The animation of First and Z is old, but it was interesting.

>>94

I can understand this.

I realized that Haman was such a feminine guy…

>>95

You look like my ex-boyfriend…

I think it’s a different genre of anime because enemies are waiting right in front for ZZ’s transformation and somehow blocking the High Mega Cannon with a barrier.

>>97

I’m not combining, but reflecting beams with an aura was already done in Z.

The ending of Z is such a terrible depressing anime! I can’t argue against that.

Z is quite interesting up until the point where Z Gundam appears.

Camille’s mental breakdown is, how should I put it… quite spiritual.

I can somewhat understand the reasoning, but…

Personally, I feel that dying in a blast from the final fart of Sirocco feels more fitting for Z.

You may look older due to your voice and presence, but you are only 21 years old, Haman.

It seems that she is surprisingly younger than the other female characters around.

>>104

Wasn’t it 22?

About a week before I died, it was my birthday.

It might be different.

Was the animation in Z a bit old-fashioned?

The first movie trilogy is really interesting! I started watching it with Z, and it was super boring back then.

Considering everything, my favorite Gundam character has become Kamille, but it’s only natural to feel a difference from the first series when watching Z for the first time.

>>107

I strangely just like the character Z.

The battles in Z are really boring…

>>108

I really don’t think there will be anyone who defends this.

The TV version is

I’m thinking that it would be really interesting if they made a full remake of the beginning of “Zeke Axis”.

>>109

I often fantasize, but the first one has thoughts and ideas unique to the era it was created in, which adds a great flavor to it…

If we’re going to pull that out, wouldn’t it be better to use SEED? That’s what I think.

ZZ has a somewhat comedic atmosphere, but what it’s doing is not comedic at all, which is something I find intriguing.

>>110

“I’m not a hostage; I’m a shield! When you look at it calmly, it’s saying something pretty crazy.”

>>110

It’s interesting to think about that while watching, but I also feel it’s impossible on a first viewing.

ZZ? It’s been interesting since it got serious, right?

>>111

There are a lot of elements that seem to have been thrown around…!

I like ZZ because of Plutz.

ZZ is boring, or rather, the vibe is just too harsh…

But I think it’s thanks to Judo that I feel it was worth watching.

Hamarn is overwritten by her final impression, but overall, she is just too much of a crazy person.

I understand the opinions that say it’s interesting and those that say it’s not; it’s quite difficult to evaluate.

The Gundam essence that starts with Z

It’s a crazy love affair between men and women set in space.

Because there are few important characters in Gundam, there isn’t much to talk about when it comes to ZZ.

Gundam hasn’t been that popular until Z, right?

>>122

People who like Z usually also like Char, so they inevitably end up liking Char’s Counterattack as well.

>>139

I feel like Char was at his most Char during the time of Captain Quattro.

>>122

Because Z is a strange anime first…

>>122

Kotobuki Tsukasa was dissing ZZ, but he was into V again.

>>147

We were really dissing ZZ with our V Gundam… Even though G was complaining about something, they were still drawing the Aggai fight.

>>161

I wasn’t really into gag spin-offs, but I was surprised to see that I clearly wrote about drawing it for work in the column back then.

>>122

The final episode is too reliant on a sequel…

>>151

At that time, I watched without thinking about anything, but I wonder what kind of unreasonable requests came from above starting from the week after the last episode of Z, like ZZ.

If there hadn’t been talk of ZZ, would the developments in the latter part of Z have changed?

But Z seems like the kind of Gundam story that everyone imagines, doesn’t it?

It still feels like First is carrying over the vibe of a super robot.

>>123

The first Gundam moves too human-like.

I’ve caught you, Camille!!

The monster machine rush in the final part of ZZ is super fun, right?

The latter half of Z’s development is incredible, it’s too much.

>>127

Tomino immediately kills off characters or causes them to mentally break down…

Of course, there are tons of intense anti-ZZ opinions, and it’s understandable to want to say that ZZ is the true Gundam.

Even if they say the pilots in the Gryps Conflict have high levels, it’s hard to accept when the battles in Z are so lackluster.

Z’s non-colliding beams → getting closer, hugging, and arguing → one side’s ally interrupts → a bit of MS damage and retreat.

The loop is really painful to watch.

Isn’t this just a mimic of Plutz’s face?

I think the battle on the ground in Z is more manageable.

The space battle is pretty lame.

Z doesn’t have as many deaths as the reputation suggests… but the overwhelming ending makes you want to say “take it down a notch!”

After the ZZ also docks! I can feel the vibe of a super robot.

>>138

There’s a combined lethal beam, so it’s basically Getter.

ZZ has a higher ratio of bald people involved in the content than Z, so the improvement in the battles is probably thanks to that.

Z and ZZ mainly focus on small skirmishes…

Though the events of Char’s Counterattack should be at the level of minor skirmishes, it doesn’t really feel that way.

>>145

Well, it’s at the level of internal conflict in terms of setting.

In “Char’s Counterattack,” the purpose is clear: to drop Axis! Everyone is doing their best to stop that, and I think that’s great.

Compared to ZZ, the balance of gags and seriousness in Zabungle is amazing.

>>146

It’s about whether or not there are reins for Gobu Fuyushi (Suzuki Yoshitake P)…

I have a slight fondness for all the characters, including mobs and enemies, in First.

Z vaguely dislikes all the characters, including the protagonist and allies.

>>148

I like Won Lee.

>>153

Mr. Won is properly acting like an adult within Z…

>>162

I thought he was an annoying guy, but he turned out to be the reckless type who attacks MS troops with a junior MS…

The scene where Bright and the field team exchange complaints is good too.

I like Crybaby Cecilia and Rommel’s face.

I’ve watched it several times, but I still don’t understand the story of Z.

It’s ZZ that neatly wraps up discussions related to Z.

I think those who ignore ZZ are amateurs.

If we do a 1st remake in color, it might end up recreating the strange parts of the TV version, so it’s better to leave it alone.

>>157

Since I understand that, I made a comment like, “It’s part of the building that was allowed to be built on the land called Gundam.”

Zabungle has a tendency to incorporate meta jokes, yet the main storyline remains serious all the time.

Also, Jiron is quite irritated until the end.

>>159

Well, he’s a vengeful person, Giro.

ZZ is half a story about Haman.

If it doesn’t continue from the new translation, you’ll be wondering who that person was, right?

>>160

The second half was almost the Axis civil war…

>>160

Isn’t it a bit lonely that everyone likes Z’s Haman (and Char) even though it’s Haman’s story?

>>192

Don’t you all like Haman and Judau?

ZZ is not completely on edge, but Z has an overall impression of having many characters that are irritable or mentally unstable.

ZZ is where the Gundam team really shines.

What is up with things like Dunbine and ZZ and their giant forms?

>>167

If the enemy appears small, it means I will win.

If they had focused more properly on Gundam in the animation of Origin…

The first one wraps up really beautifully on its own, but the ending of Z is definitely made with the assumption of a sequel, so there aren’t many people who think it ends at Z.

Everyone likes the episode where Camille dominates with his Newtype abilities in ZZ, despite everything.

Zeta has confusing dialogue that seems poorly revised, not just in the battle scenes.

It feels like the first generation was mostly supported by people other than Tomino.

The Gundam team is quite reliable compared to Emma and Fa.

>>172

There were times when L and Eno’s kindness made me feel like crying even in ordinary scenes.

I think it’s only natural for someone who liked Gundam to have a rejection reaction when suddenly faced with G.

At that time, fighting games were trending, and there were probably quite a few people who thought, “Don’t just ride the trend.”

Even if I’m stirred up by Gremmy, there are parts where I’m at a loss for how to react.

I recently watched it all at once, and the 1st, Z, and ZZ were all interesting.

It’s irrelevant, but in the New Testament Z route, aside from Camille and Fa, all the pilots are dead and it’s a mess, so it feels like we could head towards the New Testament ZZ.

>>180

Since Haman has retreated and sent Mineva to Earth, I feel that if they are going to do a new ZZ, it will have to be a story where Char takes control of Neo Zeon.

>>180

I have thought that if Camille were sent to the hospital instead of Saegusa, it would go seamlessly.

What was Char in the OP?

If Z has the leisure to be caught up in a struggle, there are moments where it seems they could finish it off.

>>184

I always think they’re definitely going to put on hidden arms because they’re always wrestling.

>>184

Jerido wants to talk, so it can’t be helped.

Char’s Counterattack is interesting, but the story is pretty out there, isn’t it?

How did the person who was given W after G feel?

Did you keep up with the roller coaster of the first episode?

>>190

I don’t know why, but I ended up deciding to watch the next one as well.

To be continued.

>>190

Since G was my first Gundam, I thought this wasn’t Gundam.

The reason Judeau didn’t end up like Camille is partly due to his personality, but it really is because of the presence of the Gundam team.

But wasn’t it interesting when Haman started using the Aggai as the strongest?

Z and ZZ somewhat carry over the vibe of Dunbine.

I like the atmosphere of the AEU-go from the Z era.

If you’re going to join as a soldier, that place is good, but you’ll die.

Camille’s personality is too extreme, making it hard to get involved.

There’s nothing that can be done about how outdated the vibe of old anime is.

It’s ridiculous to have a war on top of everything that started from G! That’s why I started watching the Universal Century later.