It was terrible, that general election.

In the past, when it comes to gateau threads, the bashing was lively.

Weren’t you called a man’s man back in the day?

>>11

It’s still being said now, but…

Together with the Nazis.

I myself changed my perspective around the time of 9/11, and it feels like criticism has been increasing since then.

But somehow, recently I’ve started to like it again after going full circle.

The “Delafree” itself used to have a cool image of the German Wehrmacht in the past.

Right now, it’s treated like we’re some kind of barbaric, backward Islamic terrorists…

>>15

First of all, such treatment is only in specific anonymous bulletin boards like those.

It was also growing yesterday.

The person who was rambling incoherently and sticking around is likely one specific crazy person…

I think it’s really uncool to be exactly like a middle schooler who’s obsessed with their ideas.

What resonated with otaku at that time?

>>17

The Gundam I’m riding is strong.

And the voice.

>>19

Hiiro from Midorikawa is ranked lower than Gato in the general election.

>>22

>>22

>>17

Voice

This is all there is.

Zion anti is going crazy too much, isn’t it?

Just because my best friend defected to the Federation.

A terrorist pretending to be a hero → A pitiful person who is just drunk on an ideal due to being bald.

The evaluation has changed.

>>25

Oh, a personal story?

>>28

The story of REBELLION.

I laughed at how 0083, SEED, and Iron-Blooded Orphans were all ranked high despite being criticized online during the general election.

>>26

Moreover, since the voting is done online, the criticism on the internet itself is evidence that there is no substance.

>>26

In other words, the big vote really makes it clear how much the criticism on the internet is a loud voice of a minority.

There were quite a few like that in other works as well.

>>26

It’s obvious that vote manipulation is happening.

>>124

Where did you make that judgment?

>>27

It’s the first time I’ve heard that the Nazis are a popular organization.

>>31

There are Nazi uncles here too…

The voice and GP02 are too cool.

Rebellion is hardly read at all.

>>32

It’s just that you haven’t read it.

Born again as just a voice, okay?

No matter how good your voice is, huh? You’re the one saying that? It’s like you’re preaching or something…

Being popular and having a lot of criticism can coexist.

There’s no way it’s 8th in the popularity poll just because of voice popularity.

>>43

Um, is there anything in the hand of the person who’s playing the drums?

>>47

The arguments on the other side are just ridiculous, talking about things like jars and “nikoniko.”

>>43

Is it okay that they are clearly favored in the various product developments?

It’s cool to see that such a reckless strategy succeeded thanks to Gato’s power.

How do you think about the fact that most Gundam characters are losing popularity to characters that only have good voices?

>>46

Isn’t the voice, appearance, coolness of the machine, and battle results not good?

Adults who have been smoldering finally find a place where they can shine and feel satisfied after accomplishing something, because it’s a popular content.

I don’t belong to the Principality of Zeon, nor the Republic, nor Axis.

Uh… I was just thinking, could it be that you guys…

It’s crazy to forget that I’m saying 911 is just based on a voice without any evidence and then mock the general election.

I hate cake! That’s fine.

“Don’t hate yourself!” is not good, right?

This is why old Earthlings…

>>53

It’s kind of hard to define the boundary between myself and others…

>>57

It’s common for Earthlings, you know.

I think it’s the influence of gravity.

It’s a shame that they try to generalize it and bring up things like 9/11 when they could just keep their personal dislikes to themselves.

In the first place, if the official opens a general election, it’s a popularity contest, so it’s a bit troublesome to be dismissed as trivial.

It’s common in real life to see a rookie with exceptionally high field skills being manipulated by a very impressive older man with just a few words.

>>56

I think Delaz is the type who is seriously intoxicated by his ideals rather than just pretending.

An example that clearly shows there is a noisy minority brainwashing old man on the anonymous bulletin board.

Your voice is cool.

The dialogue is cool, like a samurai.

The robot I’m riding is cool too.

No elements that make you disliked.

>>60

Well, what I’m doing is pretty trashy… but it’s also somewhat neutralized by the appearance and voice… it’s complicated.

>>62

It’s fine… there are good sides and bad sides.

That’s good enough for a character.

Where is the worthless element in the first place?

>>66

The reinterpretation of rebellion is great, isn’t it?

A warrior character with strong loyalty is bound to be popular.

The number of attributes that you can’t really hate about Gato has increased, right?

I think people who like baldness are abnormal.

>>63

Is it identified and going crazy?

>>69

Did I strengthen it too much…?

>>69

I remember that during the anime’s airing, the protagonist and heroine left a somewhat worse impression than Gato and the Delaz Fleet.

Due to the endless theme of corruption in the federation, a certain number of people started to think that the enemy side was actually cool.

>>71

It’s a story from the night before the birth of the Titans, so it can’t be helped…

>>77

It’s because there are such unruly forces that the Titans were created!

>>83

That’s right.

>>71

Because Kou and Keith both seem to be slow-witted…

The scene with the cake and the name and the Lord… it seems like the relationship with the bald one is not ordinary.

Rebellion is overly praised compared to its sales, it’s amusing.

Those who died in the One Year War were still happier in that they did not have their dignity destroyed.

Capturing those who have fled the battlefield, influenced by Delaz, and calling them warriors…

>>76

From the viewer’s perspective, there’s no chance to pilot my own vehicle, and since it’s a losing battle anyway, even if I cause a ruckus here, there won’t be a next time, so it just becomes… whatever.

Since I can’t criticize the cake I don’t like, I will move on to criticizing 0083.

Additionally, 0083 ranked 10th, surpassing several terrestrial broadcasts in the general election.

Flattery and criticism are both ultimately Earthling quality.

Every time it’s a single-post ID without a name, but if you thought you were saying something right, it wouldn’t end up like this, right?

Please don’t make your own dislike into the consensus of the forum.

>>87

It’s the consensus of humanity, but…

It’s laughable how much stronger some guys are getting.

It’s funny that my ID doesn’t show up in the thread saying “Zion is crap!” but it does here.

The dealers who escaped the crackdown have dropped a colony, so let’s strengthen the crackdown!

>>92

Super Thought

I think we should regulate the Gundam thread itself as it only gives rise to trolls.

>>94

First, it’s you.

del

>>92

The residents of the Gundam thread here love responding, but since they basically don’t hit delete, they’re attracting more and more people with questionable minds.

>>92

Morning threads like this are quite common, aren’t they?

If you don’t have the willingness to tolerate weird things on the morning bulletin board, it’s better not to look at it.

It seems we need to spread the idea that the Earth Federation is an evil organization on the level of North Korea in response to those saying “reality is terrorists.”

The fact that evaluations vary drastically by generation is proof of its popularity.

>>97

No, the evaluation by society is constant.

The sediment of anonymous internet forums amplifies a single criticism many times over.

>>97

There seems to be a separate aspect for evaluating what was done and the character’s popularity, and it feels like something can be popular regardless of whether what was done is good or bad.

The Super Nen Master is still alive…

He’s strong, good-looking, and has a great voice, but he looks like a pathetic young man, about 25 years old, easily influenced by hair loss.

It’s better than the time when I was treated as just a terrorist.

A person whose affiliation during the One Year War is unclear.

In some works, they are part of the elite guard, but since Dolez is the captain of the Zabi family’s elite guard, I interpret it as Gatou being on duty to protect Dozul.

Gato has been popular all along; from 2010 until the general election in 2022, there were people who loudly shouted that Gato was a terrorist and disliked, mainly active on anonymous message boards, which just led to some people being misled.

The biggest source of confusion is that no one thinks he is a young officer because of his face, voice, and mannerisms resembling those of an old man.

There was never a time when gateau was unpopular.

Some people say they were forgiven because of Rebellion, but Rebellion isn’t that popular…

>>108

It’s just crazy for someone to say that being popular from the start isn’t allowed.

You lift the NHK general election as if it has the authority of a brocade banner.

It’s quite a mystery why Rebellion is always being criticized.

>>110

Why do you think a manga that doesn’t even appear in the millions of votes collected by an NHK-sponsored project and the publishing rankings is on the same level?

>>110

If you think that the official large-scale online voting project and the not-so-popular comic adaptation by Dame A are equal, you must really be lacking in intelligence.

>>110

I think it’s just those who are convinced that both are the same who are criticizing it.

Since it’s assigned to the Gelgoog, it’s not a veteran from the beginning of the war.

>>111

During Solomon’s time, it’s a Rick Dom, so it’s treated no differently than other ace pilots.

From the beginning, the crazy person who didn’t forgive that gateau has just been manipulating the impression by saying that since it was revealed in the general election that gateau was popular, they realized he was a pitiful young man in a rebellion, and that’s why he was forgiven!

>>112

The popularity has always existed, but it has changed in impression due to the times, right?

>>115

That impression has changed, but I have no source for it.

It’s questionable whether RebellioN is selling 10,000 copies per volume.

It means that the numbers aren’t showing, that’s what it means.

>>120

It’s simply long.

Johnny Raiden’s return was also extremely long.

>>123

“Johnny’s Return has surpassed 2.5 million copies at volume 25! It’s being widely advertised.”

Yes, I’ve realized how unreasonable it is to bash Gato, so I’ve entered a phase of seeking mental stability by bashing Dam A.

The series has not sold well at all, as there’s no mention of breaking any tens of thousands in total sales!

I’m not sure about the relationship between Neo Zeon and Delaz, so I wonder if it’s okay to ignore the intentions of Neo Zeon at the core and do things that worsen the position of the Zeon side.

>>125

I’m not ignoring you.

The story is going well.

That’s why we are able to recover the remaining soldiers.

>>125

After all, they are an opposing organization to the Federation, so nothing will change.

>>125

Delaz was originally working to create a path for the return to Axis.

From the perspective of Axis, it was a grateful existence, so they were supporting it with appreciation in the story, right?

>>135

To add a supplement, the original Axis was supposed to follow a path of reconciliation with the Federation, so it should not have gotten involved.

The mainstream factions rolled over to the anti-Federation camp just at the beginning of 0083.

>>125

At this point, Axis is supporting the Delaz Fleet by deploying the Neue Ziel and sending out a recovery fleet.

You probably don’t realize it because you’re not smart, but you’re isolated because you’re always trying to criticize something.

It’s not based on the content of the statement or the subject.

I wonder why I can’t speak unless I lower something each time.

>>129

What are you referring to?

When the voting numbers that cannot be manipulated lead to inconvenient results, these kinds of people quickly say things like “This result doesn’t count because of XX!”

It’s amazing to think that if there hadn’t been a general election, the notion that Gato is still disliked because of the 9/11 influence and is considered a terrorist would still hold sway.

No matter how you think about it, it’s a crazy opinion.

In the end, that incredibly popular character is now being criticized! They were just a weakling who was intoxicated by the story.

If we’re talking about the general election, the fan base of 0083 is not from the internet generation.

It’s not that the number of reverse anti-fans has increased; this data simply shows that they are not popular among the main generation of the internet.

>>138

…? 0083 and Gato are also popular through voting, right?

>>140

In the first place, the large vote is a tally conducted online.

>>147

Well, it seems to be popular across generations.

>>150

There are some desperate people trying to justify that this vote is meaningless.

The reason is simply that I am ignorant.

Nowadays, there are opinions that even the key figures of the Meiji Restoration were terrorists and that the Meiji government was a misguided government.

>>139

That kind of opinion hasn’t just come up recently; it’s been stated by those people for a long time, hasn’t it?

I feel a distortion of perception from those who say they dislike gateau here.

As a result of having the uniform teaching that terrorism is bad embedded at a brainwashing level.

I feel pity for those who cannot come to terms with the fact that historical revolutions were also acts of terrorism.

>>146

Far from it, it’s truly pitiful to even say that fiction is no good.

If the federal country’s strength is strong from the perspective of a conciliatory approach, negotiations will be difficult.

The future was dependent on the strategy of the Delaz crew.

It’s not so much that terrorism is bad, but rather that it is incredibly unproductive, and on top of that, the Titans are causing unrelated civilians to suffer.

>>152

No, you don’t understand at all.

The actions of the Delaz fleet are incredibly productive, enough to become a turning point in history.

>>152

In other words, this story was born from the natural question of why an organization like the Titans, which is the epitome of trash, is allowed to exist.

This work emphasizes the wrongdoings of Zeon rather than praising it.

>>161

Well, this plan itself is caused by Jamitov, to begin with.

The underlying theme is that the actions of the Federation at that time were worse than the wrongdoings of Zeon.

>>152

Well, serving the Zabi family with loyalty is one thing, but it’s not for the sake of the Spacenoids.

>>166

Well, it’s also for the space residents.

In the end, it’s an action to dismantle the dominance of the federation.

If you can’t trust the results of the large-scale voting project by the official and NHK, then there is no longer any way to measure popularity.

The fact that the weapon being used is a nuclear weapon already suggests quite a strong sense of goodness…

I wish I had used a fictional weapon.

>>154

It’s a nuclear weapon, but this is definitely a fictional weapon!

In the first place, it’s an extension of the principle behind MS’s power.

>>160

In the first place, even if you were to explode a real core in outer space, it wouldn’t have that kind of power…

>>167

Moreover, it’s a laser nuclear warhead, so it’s a clean one without any radioactive contamination.

The existence of the Titans is overwhelmingly positive for the Space Noids when viewed as a whole.

The voice is one thing, but this guy doesn’t look as young as his age setting suggests.

Weakening of the Federation

Establishment of an organization to incite resentment against Space Noids.

The path to the return of Axis.

Improving the morale of the remnants.

It’s too productive once everything around here is done.

>>159

That being said, the act itself is also trash, standing side by side.

There might be a cute route in the sad aspects of comic adaptations.

The Spacenoids aren’t particularly troubled by this incident anyway.

>>170

Humanity is foolish.

>>170

Well, indirectly, I’ve been quite affected.

It was directly done by the Titans, but…

>>176

That’s why resentment is not directed towards Zeon, but only towards the Titans.

It’s nothing but the federal government’s tantrum, directly or indirectly.

>>176

Blaming all the Titans’ wrongdoings on the bald guy is really pushing it.

If you say that, then it’s thanks to the bald guy that the Titans self-destructed on the Federation side in Z, and that the AEUG, which is on the side of the Space Noids, took power, as well as that Axis gained hegemony over the Earth sphere in ZZ.

>>170

As the Earth becomes more dependent on the colonies, the power of the Space Noids has actually increased.

That’s why the Titans, with their Earthnoid supremacy, are going crazy.

It seems like there are some people who seriously criticize the character, thinking that the impression is different from the past.

I think the support for Axis was more about wanting to help our comrades who are striving in the Earth Sphere, regardless of political circumstances.

That’s why it seemed that I couldn’t get too involved.

From the viewer’s perspective, there are many depictions that make the Federation look bad.

I think it’s correct that Zeon’s appearance looks cooler as it connects to the story leading to Z.

That bald guy’s execution ability was seriously amazing.

Rebellion became sad.

A young person who was dissatisfied with the federation happened to have the talent to ride a MS, and got caught up with a politician who made optimistic statements.

>>185

Well, if anything, it’s like I’m going to provide a more effective place for the guy who was trying to die in that moment!

>>190

It would have been better to die in a meaningful place than to die without meaning.

That wish has been fulfilled, Gato.

Moreover, I’m glad I could fight for Dozle’s daughter.

It’s crazy that there are guys in both camps who want to continue the conflict even after the war has ended in the Universal Century.

>>186

The Universal Century is like a conflict zone, always with the whole world in turmoil, as nothing really gets resolved.

Isn’t the damage in the Delaz Conflict too great compared to the size of the forces involved?

>>187

Well, if you don’t get big, you can’t do something like the Titans.