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[Mobile Suit Gundam] I was watching Gundam and it made me think, is this guy really sane for putting his own name in the country’s name when he’s just about to create an independent republic?

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It’s Char’s father.

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There’s a theory that they were assassinated because they weren’t sane, you know.

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That’s quite a naming sense that even an average dictator wouldn’t come up with.

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Was it before or after the assassination that it became the Principality of Zeon?

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Didn’t Gihren say that Degwin named it the Principality of Zeon when he declared it?

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Well then, isn’t Degin’s sense just ridiculous?

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This is the Zion Republic, named by this guy in front of the Zion Kingdom.

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Well, this guy really is something else.

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Wasn’t it Degwin who named the country Zeon?

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Despite being one who established a national institution, they are treated more like a philosopher than a politician, which gives us various insights.

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Back in the days of Origin, it was the Munzo Autonomous Republic when Zeon was still alive.

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What you’re saying is too spiritual.

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When I googled it, it seemed that the settings were all over the place and I couldn’t really understand it.

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Wasn’t it that Degwin gave the name to use after assassinating Zeon?

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>>14

I don’t know the truth, but that feels the most fitting.

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The conversation between Gihren and Degwin after the Solomon battle, including that, is a collection of important information, so it’s good to keep it in mind.

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I feel like all the settings should be revealed before Tomino dies, but there’s no way he remembers or has thought about anything at all…

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>>16

Well, the setting of the Universal Century was mostly created by Studio Nue.

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>>16

It’s been rolling back and forth on which came first, the Shōryaku era or the RC.

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>>16

It’s relatively written that the Federation is terrible in the secret meetings, but Zeon is treated carelessly…

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>>16

In the first place, bald people are the ones who get angry saying there are things to do rather than getting hung up on settings.

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>>16

I think there are quite a few private settings (so-called Tomino notes).

I kept it hidden until the time of Dunbine’s Tomino memo and the Lean OVA, and I haven’t even seen Turn A or G-Reco.

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I don’t really understand if they were killed.

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>>19

Conversation between Char and Kycilia regarding the assassination of Garma.

“I became vacant.” “It seems my father was the same.”

I was told that, so it’s unclear whether it was done directly or indirectly.

Since Deggin is involved, it might be an assassination.

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The director isn’t thinking about things that are unrelated to the main plot.

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>>21

It seems that Amuro’s SM hobby is related to the main story.

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>>21

Tomino thinks deeply about the world view in every work.

It’s just that new ideas come up in the middle of the conversation and they keep changing.

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>>21

The proposal for Ganboy is already full of timeline settings that never appear in the main story, like the assassination of Sasuro, the speech about having no soldiers in Zeon, Elezumu, and ◯◯ Bunch.

The settings for Plura and Gremmy, as well as Lord Nguyen becoming gay after being violated by his gay grandfather, are also from Tomino’s notes.

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>>80

If you read the bald man’s novel, you’ll understand that it’s a setting magic.

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Well, I guess it’s fine for the Origin to be the original work as the name suggests.

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Tomino is not a setting otaku, so he is quite careless about parts that are not related to the main story.

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>>24

The fans know more about the Gundam setting than I do (laughs).

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The bald man isn’t really interested in the political arena, is he?

Humans are only thinking about philosophical matters, like how they should be.

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When asked “What is 〇〇?”, it’s fine to just casually brush it off with “That’s right” since it doesn’t really matter.

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The name “Zion” looks like the name of a villain, but what race does it belong to?

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>>29

Somehow has a Jewish-like resonance.

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>>51

It’s kind of like the old alphabet representation is ZION, so it’s just a straightforward Romanized reading of Shion.

Don’t name it like that when it clearly has Nazi Germany in it!

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In the story, they can only be understood as “a person who advocated for the concept of Newtypes and independence but died suddenly.”

In the novel version, it’s an agitator.

In addition to that, there are madmen mixed with religion and hero aspirations.

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>>30

Personally, I think ideals and propaganda belong to Zeon.

It feels like Degin was handling the operations and management.

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If the Zabi family hadn’t been deified after their death, they might have been quickly forgotten.

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>>31

Rather, it may have been necessary to keep the name Zion because it had already been deified.

There was no need to leave the country name behind after going so far as to carry out an assassination.

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If there is a city called Zumu in the Zion nation

Is Daikun being used somewhere?

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>>33

Maybe somewhere there is a road called Daikun Street.

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The assassination isn’t confirmed, right…?

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>>34

I feel like Degin clearly said that it was an assassination during the secret meeting.

Well, it’s a novel, so it’s not official anyway.

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Even if someone is assassinated, the reason will change depending on the medium…

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It was quite mundane with the origin, though.

If you consider that as a comic by Yasuhiko, who fundamentally cannot believe in Newtypes, I don’t really want to use it as a reference.

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I think it was too much to depict it as common people, but in the end, if you look at it, (true) Newtypes were just a pipe dream, so maybe it’s something like communism.

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In the novel, for the first few years, Gihren was so captivated by Daikun.

A few years later, I realized that he was just an agitator, and he had already seized control of the political center in the Zabi family.

But Daikun became such a star that he became an indispensable presence.

Gihren himself organized a secret service and killed hundreds of thousands of anti-Daikun factions, among other things.

In the midst of all that, it seemed that Daikun had died of illness (at least in the novel version).

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Is it something like Guevara and Castro?

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The model is Lenin, right?

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I don’t know if they thought about it from the first anime, but it seems the cost of moving to a colony is such that you can only pay it back with a three-generation loan, so it’s no wonder Space Noids cling to religion.

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It’s just something like, if you casually provoke the space noids, a human adapted to space might actually appear, and before you know it, a New Type has really emerged.

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It seems that the model for the One Year War is the American Civil War.

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It seems that there are more settings added later because there was demand for them now.

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I thought that Hitler’s tail, Gilen, is misusing the motif of Jewish Zionism.

In games, there’s even consideration to change the notation from Zion to Zeon.

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Both siblings are so hot-blooded, it’s a bit off-putting.

I think Seira is also a demon child.

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The man who becomes completely entangled with the Zabi family as the settings get amplified.

52: Japan Otaku ReviewsYeahx1

It seems like there exists a setting at the time of the first, but it is not clearly discussed in the story!

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>>52

It seems that during the broadcast, there were probably many parts that progressed without a common understanding among the staff.

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>>54

Settings are nothing more than stage props that lend credibility to a story.

At that time, there weren’t any books or anime magazines that published settings in the first place.

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>>67

Don’t casually wipe out the existence of Animeck or Animage.

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>>67

It has been around since the era of Ultraman.

53: Japan Otaku ReviewsYeahx1

Side 3 was supposed to have many German and Japanese people, but I don’t know if this setting still holds true now.

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It feels like they fleshed out the conflict between the evil Zeon and the righteous Federation that is often found in classic robot anime.

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>>55

I like that the military uniform has spikes on the shoulders and Musai’s bridge is too much like an evil organization, and that Zabi’s house is in a terrible situation.

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I wonder what the Universal Century would have been like if this guy had lived a long life.

58: Japan Otaku ReviewsYeahx3

The thread itself doesn’t seem to be saying anything grounded, so it probably didn’t change much.

59: Japan Otaku ReviewsYeahx4

In the end, no matter how charismatic someone is, they are just a cult leader of nonsense until NT actually appears…

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>>59

Let’s unite as the new generation of NT, living in space.

It’s just that someone who looks like a superhero showed up because I was saying it…

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Something… something that has adapted to space is coming out!

It’s scary that a mutant like that actually showed up after saying it.

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I think it’s something mental or emotional.

I never thought it would actually manifest as a physical phenomenon.

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I think it would be nice if they could somehow improve on the fact that it’s quite obvious they are creating the settings by working backward from the Newtype abilities of the main story.

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>>65

Could it be that Dyke himself is a Newtype and was actually receiving signals from Koko?

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In the setting of the Gunboy era, anyone who does not obey Erezum is a cleanliness-obsessed maniac who has purged a hundred million citizens.

The Zabi family’s dictatorship is referred to as the “Second Dark Regime.”

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It’s NTR (innovation of humanity through evolution to Newtype) isn’t it~!

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I just borrowed the idea that a weird esper showed up, and it reminds me that ZION Daikun called evolved humans Newtypes…

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>>74

Indeed, strictly speaking, Amuro and the others are not true Newtypes; their high pilot aptitude makes them different.

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First of all, the fact that the powerful Newtype Lalah Sune was born and raised on Earth means that the Newtype mentioned in the reference image is something entirely different.

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>>76

Amuro was born in the San’in region, and Camille was from Saitama.

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>>81

Maybe it’s that those born on Earth are NTs who have awakened in space.

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Is there really a need to reveal all the settings we created in the first place?

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>>77

That’s more like Tomino’s stance – “Look at the story instead.”

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It’s not about whether it exists or not, but about wanting to see it.

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That strange building looks bad no matter how you look at it.

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