I could have built a peaceful Zeon with my dad.

This Kisyeria looks really old.

>>2

At that time, Char felt like he wanted to quickly end the war for the sake of his sister.

>>36

It’s often said that Char goes too far into a split personality towards the end.

It’s my father’s revenge, I’ll kill the Zabi family! Then it became Lala’s revenge, I’ll kill Amuro!

Here, for the first time, the purpose is to end the war for a noble cause.

In the end, aren’t you just going to kill the Zabi family? Even though the goal has changed since the initial revenge.

>>2

The war will drag on if the Zabi family doesn’t die.

Even little Mineva was entrusted to a Newtype girl who seemed to have genuine feelings for her afterward.

…Hey, why are you raising Mineva to be a bundle of prejudice?

>>38

I have no obligation to be told that by a red person who is abandoned and playing in the Earth’s sphere…

>>3

It’s cute, isn’t it?

>>3

Based on the reactions of the subordinates afterwards, it seems that others also had their own thoughts about Gillen…

>>3

Did you want to express something about how women are driven by emotions?

>>3

Isn’t it crazy that Giren killed Degwin without any emotion?

>>39

The royal authority is strong, so if we don’t do it there, we would be at a disadvantage in peace negotiations.

Degun attempted to send the Prime Minister from the moon through a different route to establish peace.

For Giren, it’s also the last chance.

>>50

If it’s in the way, I’ll even kill my own family, and after the war, I will be treated as a hero for stopping the Federation’s resistance at A Baoa Qu, so Degwin’s murder will be glossed over.

For Kishiria, it’s also the last chance.

>>56

Both of them have fire in their butts…

The two stances of wanting to eliminate Degin and protecting him are completely opposed.

>>71

Is the military that tries to continue the war, ignoring the king’s judgment, right…?

>>72

It’s not right for the king to ignore the estimate that they can win with the solar ray and still seek peace.

>>71

At that point, it was dubious whether we had a chance of winning.

By blowing away Revell, we gained a chance of victory.

>>39

Since Garma died, I’ve become weak and am trying to unilaterally establish peace with Revil.

It’s a bargain if you kill them all at once!

>>83

Kishiria, unable to accept it, will pull the trigger next, right?

The type to get serious in sibling fights.

Although we put so much effort into the new type, it seemed like we were about to start a revolution on the battlefield of this era, but it all got crushed by Amuro.

Without being killed by Char, I was already sunk by Salamis waiting by the dock.

>>8

I was aware that Salamis was approaching, so if the bridge hadn’t been suddenly destroyed, we would have managed to respond somehow.

Emotionally, it’s my father’s enemy, and in terms of the situation, the commander is an arrogant one who is overwhelmed and doesn’t see reality.

What is Twining who is placed under Kycilia in later works?

I think my younger sister who is 10 years younger is really cute.

Stop joking around.

Thread created by the Chimera team.

This guy is making too many useless special forces.

>>13

Chimera Squad

Noisy Fairy Squad

The Fenrir Squad of the Dark Night

Marcochias Squad

Cyclops Squad

Black Three Stars

Granada Special Forces

Newtype Corps

Ghoul Squad

Matchmonid Squad

Marine Corps

Mad Angler Squad

Southern Cross Team

Most of the famous special forces with names are basically Kiriya’s collection of personnel.

>>19

Could it be that Gihren’s direct troops are not that few at all?

>>24

Girene is the main actor in politics.

The reason for taking command on the battlefield of Abawaku might be to boost the soldiers’ morale.

>>19

I died while keeping these things unused…

A war criminal comparable to Ghiren’s death.

>>19

It was testified that Kishiria was preparing for the post-war civil war even during Johnny’s return.

Giren, in his own way, is more human and lenient towards his siblings than what is said in the story.

It’s unfortunate that Garma, like others, is of an age where he shouldn’t be involved in patricide.

Treasure of the Shore Ria

It was a mistake to interpret the overwhelming authority of the supreme commander literally and assume that there was room for maneuver in the succession of command.

Inheriting this guy’s will, Newtype Research Institute → Enhanced Human Research Institute → Neo Zeon executives → Char’s lover.

The source of evil in the Universal Century, Nanai Miguel, is too evil.

>>20

It seems that Full Frontal might become one of this guy’s test subjects in Mugan… What is up with this person…

>>20

Someone who is said to be an ancestor of Usso’s mother.

In Zeke Axis, you’ll get the beautiful Kshyria with a bamboo design.

She’s a worthless woman who scouted the guy who got fired for letting my brother die, you know?

There is no major force that follows the Zabi family, like Degwin who smoothly fits into the position of Daikun.

>>28

Char

>>31

Garma doesn’t seem to have the groundwork to go that far.

Dozul seems to dislike that kind of thing.

When it comes to secret forces that operate in the shadows, it can only be those under Kycillia’s command.

The feeling of Tatsunoko when riding the Azum.

I was sarcastically told by Ma Kube that the reinforcements I was trying to send would clearly arrive too late for Solomon.

I wonder if that was a deliberate attempt to time it poorly, or if Kycillia is just clueless about military matters.

>>41

If the federation comes on strong, it should hold out for a while.

Solar system…?

Did the other houses not want to go to war?

>>42

It’s all the Zabii family’s responsibility, isn’t it?

I have a basic knowledge that Gihren has an IQ of 300, Dozle speaks in an elegant manner, and Garma is a rich kid.

Isn’t Kirisia a bad guy who creates new type research institutes and kidnaps war orphans to torture them?

>>47

That’s the post-war federation.

Also, it was Char who picked up civilians and made them fight in the war.

>>47

The person wasn’t on the path of being forcibly enhanced as a Newtype, but it’s unclear what would have happened if they were alive.

When you look back in slow motion, there are people who excessively write gruesome content.

Everyone except Garma approves of the Zabi family’s methods, so including Dozle, they are all villains.

The development department’s struggle with creating surprisingly interesting weapons is impressive.

Was there any depiction of Garma opposing the Zabi family’s methods?

Giren → dislikes Degwin

Duzal → Hates Kshiria

Kissiria → Dislikes Giran and Dozul.

Garma → Everyone loves.

What about Deggin?

>>58

I have no interest other than Garma.

It seems that Kshyria can still communicate better than Gihren.

Well, the reason it became so tense like this is because Garma kid died, but hehe.

>>63

Degwin got really angry over Gihren using Garma’s death for political gain, which also caused a rift in his relationship with Dozle.

But maybe Garma himself thinks that Ghiren’s way is the right one.

If you know about the situation where Abawaku became a big mess at IGLOO

What the hell are you doing at a time like this?! It can only be that…

>>64

Overall, the time of confusion is relatively brief, but that brief moment is critical.

>>67

It’s not a moment, it’s 30 minutes.

During this time, 25 Federation ships launched a special attack at the S Field.

Landing with 15 ships including WB to break through the core and stop the power.

Running right in the middle of anti-aircraft fire.

>>67

I thought communications with the command suddenly cut off, and then only the ceasefire order was issued and left unattended afterwards.

Of course, since it’s not an official ceasefire, the federal army continues to attack normally, while those in the know keep fleeing one after another.

The remaining people have to desperately fight without understanding anything just to protect themselves and their comrades.

It is hell.

>>79

Somehow, the Gwajins are leaving on their own (separate from Delaz).

Giren is quite willing to listen to his brothers.

Wasn’t there a time when we blew up the base along with the soldiers during the attack or something?

Misremembering?

>>66

I blew up the mining base along with the soldiers during the battle.

It’s been said that even in the assassination plan against Gihren, they were still thinking more about Degwin than Gihren.

>>69

Kishiria conveyed Degwin’s departure to Gel Dornba, which Gihren was clearly trying to bite on.

I killed your father, Yosh! I’m going to kill you!

>>88

Origin is generally a maliciously exaggerated delusion of Yasuhiko.

I think a bamboo design would probably look really great, Kirishia.

If you see it as a chance to achieve patricide, then it’s naive not to consider that you might get shot in the back too, Girein.

You might have thought that they wouldn’t shoot in this situation, but…

>>75

I got really excited for my first conducting.

>>75

Even if I dislike Degin, there are still parts where I’m normally sweet to my siblings…

Even in the beginning, she was mercilessly an old hag, but I wonder if the 24-year-old setting is being maintained.

The Igloo is of no reference because for some reason, the Zeon is at a disadvantage from the start.

>>81

Igloo is said to be a propaganda anime of the Federation (Zeon) because the depiction changes drastically from story to story…

I feel that Garma is not suited for a soldier.

It seems suited for politicians to work in governance.

This guy, the one who killed, is even considered the biggest war criminal of the One Year War.

It seems like a portrayal where Ghiren thought she was more emotional than he expected, thinking she was just like him.

A woman who is endlessly accused of wrongdoing, one after another.

The strange units of Zeon are mostly of Kycilia origin.

Has the anti-aircraft fire thinned out even in the clandestine meetings of the novel? They’re saying it’s now possible to break in since it seems feasible.

If Lady Kycilia hadn’t killed them, the White Base team would have had a suspicious landing as well.

>>93

It was questionable, or rather impossible.

Thanks to Kyshiria, even though the defenses are weak, we’re still sinking.

Rather, it’s okay for the Federation to treat Char as a hero, right? Killing Kycilia.

It’s terrible that the person has no sense of having made the greatest contribution to the federation.

It makes sense since I was able to use the bothersome Degwin as bait to get rid of 30% of Revil and the fleet, as well as the Solar System.

Well, if I had just played normally without aiming for Deging, I could have wiped out half the fleet.

Origin blames everything on Kycilia too much.

>>97

That thing with Sasuro…

Giren has a sweet side too, huh…

Wasn’t there a theory that even if Char didn’t shoot Kshatriya, the ship would still have been sunk?

Well, instead of “killing the king,” it’s “killing a parent” that comes to mind, which probably indicates a strong emotional connotation.

There are some people who seem to think that the idea of Char having an original and swapping places with that original, which is purely a setting from Yasuhiko’s “Origin,” also applies to the main series.

I don’t think they can be compared because Kysyria is quite different in the anime and in the Origin.

In the end, if we can’t take the fortress in time…

Anti-air has revived and the N field is getting crushed, so Lady Kishiria, please kill at the best timing for the Federation.

Since it was discontinued, it’s almost like he killed it because Tomino had no intention of making a sequel.

Why do we have to make a sequel after crushing all of Zeon and having no enemies left?

>>106

Director Takahashi from the “Brigade” also showed reluctance, saying, “Eh? If we’re going to go any further, we can only kill Fianna, right?”

Because the fans and sponsors said so… you know…

I dislike Origin Kyshiria because of his receding hairline.

Wouldn’t it have been best to blow away the Federation fleet with a solar ray and let the surviving Federation fleet, fueled by revenge, take out Degwin?

There may also be anger towards the patricide.

It’s only natural for Kycilia to think, “Will the next target be me?”

The fact that Gihren somehow had a mysterious awareness towards Kshiriya, thinking “You are like me,” is the most outrageous aspect.

The settings exclusive to Origin are unique settings within Origin itself and have no connection to anything else.

I think it was portrayed quite a bit in the story that Gihren is someone you shouldn’t keep alive, but there are a certain number of fools who feel charisma from that kind of depiction.

From Kishiria’s perspective, there really is no choice but to kill there.

If even my father can be killed, that means I could end up killing myself as well, and in the chaos of battle, I would have to make it look like I died, otherwise I would become an existence that can’t be touched anymore.

Are you saying we lose just for killing Gihren? But if the guy who was centrally managing the military movements at the player level dies and orders stop coming for 10 minutes, it’s like skipping a turn in a competitive game, so of course we would lose.

>>114

It’s not like the other guys were working 24 hours like scarecrows or anything.

>>122

I think it wasn’t a case of the whole army being commanded and managed together…

I wonder if a Supreme Commander is really required to give that kind of command.

As a consequence, the front lines collapsed because Ghiren was shot.

If Char hadn’t fired the bazooka, Kshyria would have retreated and would have been able to regroup as it was.

It’s all Char’s fault.

It’s not so much sweet as they never took it seriously from the start.

Giren is sweet, or rather, he’s strangely intelligent, so he’s the type who has absolutely no interest in learning from the emotions of others or the failures of past dictators.

>>118

When I see things related to Duzel’s death, I can somewhat see the emotions.

I just feel like both Kysyria and you understand my thoughts, right?

>>127

There’s no way I could understand that!

Deggin is just old and frail because he is a grandfather.

In your youth, you were probably just as sharp or even sharper than Gireen, right?

>>119

Immediately after Daikun’s death, the Daikun faction was suppressed through abuse.

I’m creating a solid system for the foundation of the Principality of Zeon so that it won’t be undermined.

Incredible sharp-witted person.

>>119

Giren has aged… That line comes from knowing how sharp and composed my father was in his youth.

Well, isn’t it true that after killing Gihren, our allies’ movements got worse? It’s a bit careless to start dragging things out at a timing when it’s already getting serious, so I can’t help but feel it’s a depiction that shows a lack of military sense.

I find it a bit interesting and like how shocked Gilen gets when people badmouth him.

Is it really the time for sibling fights when Zeon is at a disadvantage? Are you an idiot who has no intention of winning?

Is Char, who is killing the Zabi while being the commander despite the disadvantage of Zeon, an idiot?

Yes

>>123

Yes

>>123

Giren’s Response

I love the scene where young Girel from Origin sees Degwin’s sharpness and reevaluates him.

It seemed like we could win while Ghiren was in command during the Battle of Abawaku, but once this person took over, we lost.

If you’re going to have a discussion about infighting and becoming disadvantaged, you might as well do it in the federation, right?

Why is it that the enemy the protagonist should defeat ends up strangling themselves and dying in an unrelated situation…?

>>130

It’s not a story about the protagonist defeating a great evil; rather, the focus of the anime is on surviving the war.

>>130

Because it was a wrap-up with a sudden turn of events.

Putting aside the real-life circumstances, I think it’s fine for the work to be this way because there are also miraculous alignments where the protagonist is ultimately just a soldier in terms of balance.

Even if the situation could be handled from Lady Kishiria’s perspective,

I was sure that if Gihren were alive, he would eventually come to stab me, so there was no choice but to kill him there.

It’s true that Char is an idiot.

>>133

But then later they go and raise the topic of how the Federation is just unforgivable!

>>138

Do you have the same thoughts now as you did when you were 20?

The situation was completely different at the end of the war compared to the era of Z.

>>138

The emergence of the Titans really has no continuity with the One Year War.

>>133

My sister also points a gun at former citizens, and it’s so ridiculous that they took the country name from Geonzumudakun that it’s funny.

In the final phase, Char finally wakes up and thinks about ending the war… so it makes sense that he considers killing Kycillia.

Since Char’s primary goal is revenge against the Zabi family, if he pulls the trigger here, it’s understandable that he would do it even if the defeat of Zeon becomes apparent.

Char has a certain principle, after all.

Just by becoming the Reverse Char, even that will just break apart.

Maybe the reason for the failure was that my older brother didn’t properly understand my sister’s feelings.

>>144

Should I kill them in a way that makes it less noticeable?

I think it would have been better to inform each other in advance, saying “I’m going to kill Dad for this reason,” as there was too little communication among family members.

>>144

Both of them surprisingly show affection to their family…

Isn’t it because Kshiria killed Gihren to prevent herself from being assassinated like Degwin?

Politician-type Girelle

Kishyira, the engineer type.

General-type Dozle

When they were all together, the balance must have been good.

>>147

It was only when there was a noble-type Garma that the balance was achieved.

>>166

It’s all the fault of the perm and Char…

Hitler getting angry in the novel version of Gihren is cute.

It seems that they aim to be like Napoleon.

>>148

Napoleon was defeated.

>>150

😡

If it weren’t for Char, we could have had a chance from there, Lady Kycilia.

After the defeat, Gihren is confined to an isolated island!?

>>151

Exiled to the asteroid belt.

Resurrection

Exiled to Jupiter

I watched the 1st episode recently, but Kycillia isn’t really a particularly bad person, right? Just talking about the anime, please.

>>152

If the actions of Zeon itself are considered evil, then they are bad people.

Yes, regarding what individuals have done.

>>152

Compared to Ghiren, he’s not much, but he’s still a villain enough.

I am conspiring with Ma Kube and doing various things.

>>152

I’m doing something outrageous like killing my older brother, the supreme commander, right in the middle of battle, but aside from that…

>>152

I don’t think just because someone doesn’t look as bad as they seem means they are a good person either.

It’s amazing that the child of Zeon Daikun is involved in the downfall of Zeon.

Zabi, who was supposed to have assassinated Zeon Daikun, is trying to establish Zeon as a nation.

A cute Casval boy with the name Zabi attached to my final mobile suit💜

>>155

I noticed it for the first time…

>>169

Wait a minute!?

My younger sister was more attached to Dad than I expected.

Kishiria-sama, your cheekbones aren’t really great, but the structure of your face isn’t that bad, right?

The Flanagan Institute is just a place that studies NT, but I don’t really understand it well either.

Gillen took advantage of Garma’s death.

I abandoned Dozle.

Seeing that Degwin was assassinated, I’m thinking this is pretty dangerous for me too.

It’s not that I’m running some kind of secret assassination intelligence unit that feels like it was added later, even though I’m a bad person.

I don’t think I have time to do it.

It’s strange that communication has become difficult because we’re in a split army with my siblings! Well, I guess it’s something that gets brought up quite a bit.

Is it true that Char’s first love is the person in the thread image?

>>174

This is not a joke!

>>174

This is no joke!

>>179

Speaking of which, where is this line from…?

>>174

Maybe Hamon-san.

The reason Kiaria is increasingly being portrayed as a dangerous character is probably because of her face.

If you really watched all the episodes, you know that Kicilia blew up the soldiers on site to silence them.

>>176

The secret mine is a bit…

They keep saying “patricide” and all, but… starting something like a colony drop is a massacre for both enemies and allies, so let’s just stop this already… it’s ridiculous.

>>180

After all, that’s part of Gihren’s plan too.

I wonder if we could have avoided this if we had been able to have an open conversation as a family once.

Wasn’t it a feeling that it couldn’t be helped whether Gihren was killed or killed?

Why did I suddenly kill?