To be honest, I didn’t really understand the conversation very well, so please assume that there may be many mistakes or misunderstandings when you listen!
First of all, I couldn’t really understand the power dynamics.
I think it’s correct that the Titans are an Earth Federation organization and A.E.U.G is an anti-Earth Federation organization.
At first, Bright was in the Titans, but midway he transferred to the AEUG, and at this point, it’s really hard to understand!
Since it’s an anti-Earth Federation organization, I thought the group that the protagonist belongs to would be something like Zeon, as mentioned by the EUG in the first part, but then the real Zeon shows up in the second half!
In the second half, just when I thought they teamed up with Zeon, it eventually turned into a three-way standoff, and I just don’t get it!
In the end, neither Eugo nor the Titans really understand what their purpose is or why they are fighting each other!
Camille!
An unusual obsession with the uncle who was interrogated in the prison? at the time of episode 1.
Why is this guy so messed up, trying to punish me by getting on the Gundam Mark II on his own and sticking around laughing, just because his home environment is rough?
At the end, Rosamii looking so much like Fow is perhaps because Rosamii had Fow’s memories implanted through memory manipulation or something like that.
In the end, my mind breaks, but was I starting to lose my mind as a precursor to that?
Jerid!
At the very beginning, he was an unpleasant character, but in the scene where he seeks guidance from Laila for his own ambitions.
He has a high sense of pride, but he gives the impression of being a passionate man who can control it for the sake of his goals.
I had a good impression of her and was looking forward to her future achievements, as there were reasons for her to fight as a rival, such as being put in situations by Camille and others.
In the middle of the game, trying to spread poison gas in the colony so casually really crossed the line too much and made me pull back!
I thought their favorability dropped a bit, and suddenly their appearances decreased, and in the end, they died after a rather unimpressive battle…
I wanted to see a little more of Camille clashing intensely…
Unlike the first generation, which side won the war!? Has a conclusion been reached?
AEUG is one of the factions of the Earth Federation.
AEUG is not anti-Earth Federation!
It feels like it was obscured by killing Shirocco.
Z doesn’t understand the power dynamics at all unless they see explanations, so it’s fine.
Amuro and Char!
The situation where two people who were enemies at first, after some time, converse and fight side by side in the same camp was really great…
I wanted to see more of the invincible party with Camille included.
Fou! Your voice is too cute!
Katsu and Sara! The development of their relationship was so rapid that I couldn’t quite understand it!
MS includes Z, Hizack, Marasai, Gaplant, Messera, and Quebeley.
There were a lot of MS with a different taste than before, and many of them were cool! Especially, the Qubeley is awesome!
Mr. Shimamoto couldn’t maintain his voice anymore by the time of the New Testament.
Even with Fou, the relationship progresses rather suddenly, but in the New Testament, the scenes are cut, so even Fou lacks strength in his voice.
This could lead to inviting such impressions.
>>8
It was important.
It’s really scary how Char managed to escape from that situation without being caught by any organization.
How can we leave the space without any MS?
The combat is a bit dull, but the mobile suits are cool, right Z…
>>10
Pew pew
Withdrawal Signal
It starts from the point of exhaustion due to the conflict in the federation with Z.
But it’s a relief that it’s a conflict within Zeon.
What the heck is going on?
>>11
Tomino’s works generally feature infighting in the latter half, causing the enemies to weaken.
Since the first generation, it’s a promotional program for Gunpla, so you don’t really need to try to understand it too much.
I wanted the voice actor for Four to continue in the new version since it’s the same as Camille.
>>13
Originally, even Camille was not scheduled to continue.
Just to be sure, I had an audition and since it was indeed the case, I was hired again.
Because there were calls to the international community involving AEUG, Titans, Neo Zeon, and the main Federation forces, I didn’t understand anything when I was a child.
It’s too troublesome that the AEUG is an anti-Earth Federation organization (the Federation Army).
>>15
Aeugea is on the Earth Federation side, but they are at war with the Titans of the Earth Federation?!
>>21
To put it more clearly, the ultimate goal is to drive humanity out of Earth, so actually it’s the same as the Titans’ boss Jamitov (although Jamitov is hiding that).
Moreover, because of the nature of their objectives, the Earth Federation and the AEUG have a really bad relationship.
>>33
Well, actually, both AEUG and the Federation have the stance that we need to properly engage in space immigration, so they actually have something in common.
The federal government’s haphazard approach to space immigration is the root of all evil.
As a general evaluation, I could still understand the story until the middle, but once we entered the second half and the three factions of Eutitasio began to mix their intentions, I honestly couldn’t figure out who was fighting for what purpose…!
Hamarn revives Zeon.
Is Shirocco producing female leaders?
Is Ayugō a counter to these two opposing methods?
I could only understand it to that extent, but it was quite interesting!
This anime has too much violence! I was surprised that everyone casually threw punches in the first season, but Z is on a whole different level! Even considering the times, it’s too much!
When it comes to violence, it was an era of violence for young people…
There won’t be any Gundam series that is less interesting in combat than Z, so you can rest assured and move on to the next one!
To be honest, the existence of AEU is just too incomprehensible, isn’t it?
I can’t even imagine what kind of position that would be in the real world.
It’s more like, lately, I have the image that Tomino’s anime often features slapping.
It’s too much, I’m laughing.
I don’t really feel that Shirocco did anything so bad that it warrants such denial of his existence.
It’s a strange person who wants to put a woman on top, but it can’t be Haman.
>>27
I really hate types like Haman and Shirocco who manipulate things behind the scenes instead of standing in the spotlight and make others move according to their wishes.
>>27
The idea that it is time for women to take the lead in the flow of the Shirocco era is
It is a story that the time has come when it should naturally happen.
If Hamarn stands up, it seems that the era will choose Hamarn.
It’s not that I think Haman is good or bad.
However, apart from that way of thinking, I just want to fully demonstrate my skills in swimming through that turbulent current (which is only seen as wanting to make women puppets).
The flow of the situation is such that Camille is being accused of treating war as a game and doing things to others that absolutely should not be done (including what was done to Camille by the AEUG), even though there is no specific vision of which woman is involved.
AEUG is undoubtedly based on an anti-Earth Federation organization.
The leader Brex is a powerful member of the federation who also holds a seat in the parliament.
Since they teamed up with Quattro and took over the organization, that’s already one of the factions of the Earth Federation.
It’s something like that.
The violence section of plaZma was terrible.
The Titans, who are bullying Space Noids with their Earthnoid supremacy, are so disgusting that the people from the Federation must punish them, so they gather as the AEUG.
I thought Basque was hitting a lot, but it actually has a fairly even distribution of hitting scenes…
Is it really reasonable to take the idea of putting a woman at the top of the Sirocco seriously?
I thought that everyone around just wanted to raise him as a puppet to deceive, but I wonder if Shirocco himself said that…
The Federation isn’t split in half between the Titans and the AEUG; there are also regular Federation forces that don’t belong to either side or can be considered leaning towards one or the other, which complicates things.
>>36
It’s certainly real, but…
It’s understandable that the AEUG is both part of the Earth Federation and anti-Titans.
Why are you engaging in armed struggle directly?
>>37
Originally, there was support from Karaba and Anaheim, but the seizure of the Mk-�U completely turned it into an excessive military faction struggle.
>>37
There’s no way that these people who beat each other up in anime can calmly discuss things.
>>37
Since Anaheim and others kept giving us a lot of weapons, the fights just kept getting more and more intense.
Was there a scene where they got punched like this?
This is really easy to understand, so I recommend it.
It feels like there hasn’t been a unified command system in the Federation since the first generation.
Isn’t everyone doing what they want freely?
>>43
For some reason, there is no successor to Revil.
>>47
Since only those who no longer want to fight are left, Jamitov and Brex are rising to power.
>>43
So it continues to rot more and more…
>>43
I thought this while watching.
If both the Eufrasians and Titans are factions of the Earth Federation, who is at the top and what are they doing during the Eutita War?
>>62
I’m zoning out.
No, seriously.
I don’t really understand it well, but don’t the important people in the Federation get angry about factions like the Titans and AEUG forming on their own within the military and starting strange wars?
>>49
In the end, the politicians are just trying to ride the winning horse, taking a noncommittal approach.
Completely under the control of the AEUG in Dakar.
>>52
As expected, Earthlings are the worst.
>>65
It’s going to get worse in ZZ, so let’s take a look.
>>49
Important people are making the Titans and AEUG!
>>49
Since the big shots are forming factions, the only way to get angry is to create a faction.
>>49
It seems that the spirit to be angry about that mostly died in the One Year War, and those who survived also fell in the debris of the stars…
– Ordinary people of the Federal Army
– The radical organization of the Federal Forces, Titans.
– The Jupiter forces, Shirocco, who will be joining the Titans.
– The EUG, which unites the Titans’ anti-faction within the Federation Forces.
– Wild anti-federal organization Karaba
– Zeon Remnant Army Axis
This concludes the message.
If talking could resolve things, we wouldn’t need to develop Rick Diaz.
Rather than not understanding the position of the AEUG,
Despite not being a regular army or anything, they are using the base.
Engaged in hostilities against the federal forces or alternatively conducting joint operations.
Aren’t Camille and the others going to become wanted criminals? It’s frustrating because there are no concrete depictions of such situations in society!
>>58
The Titans might have put out a warrant for them, but since they are inside the AEUG, it doesn’t mean anything.
The Titans are really hated in space!
First, there is a large organization called the Earth Federation Army.
Among them, the earth-centric extremists are trying to take over the entire Federation army with the Titans.
So, isn’t the Titans going a bit too far? The group that formed from those within the Federation army who had a more colony-oriented perspective is called the AEUG.
In a large organization, there are two factions clashing, so naturally, there are people who do not belong to either side.
People in neutral positions like Mr. Bright are being pulled by both sides.
The Titans are more radical than the AEUG.
I tried to change the world peacefully, but both collapsed.
The corruption of the federation will accelerate.
I don’t like the Titans like Major Bran, but my own organization got absorbed.
There are also Federation ace pilots fighting on the Titans side, and since there isn’t much explanation, it’s a bit confusing.
It seems that Apolly and Roberto have become former Zeon soldiers through historical revisionism.
I think it would have been more flavorful if they had done that in the main story, Eugo.
Please remember this.
If the Earth Federation Forces get serious, they can crush all opposing organizations with overwhelming firepower.
Well, basically I don’t do it.
>>69
That’s often referred to as a theoretical value that’s possible but absolutely impossible.
From here on, all series will be a three-way battle.
If Char had seriously represented the Space Noids after Z, the world would have turned out much better, I suppose.
Why are you trying to drop a meteorite?
>>72
Because I have been holding a grudge against Amuro for losing to him forever.
>>72
I want to do something about politicians who are like parasites on the Earth, but I don’t want to become a politician myself.
>>72
The time has come when the Earth cannot endure any longer!!
>>87
Are you not thinking about becoming a politician or a leader?
>>100
I am not thinking about fixing the world!
>>87
That’s not the main reason either…
Let’s understand each other without misunderstanding!
>>72
Don’t worry… if we take that route, Char will be assassinated before a better world is created, and that’s the end of it.
Moreover, it wouldn’t mean anything if the representatives of the Spacenoids became decent while the Earthers don’t change…
The federal army is probably not a monolithic or unified organization at all…
Is there no one like the supreme commander of the federation?
>>74
Blown away by the solar ray, the successor is absent.
>>74
The president might be there, but Masaharu is almost nonexistent in Gundam; he feels like a background character.
During the ZZ era, corruption reached its peak, leading to the emergence of Neo Zeon, but the Federation didn’t particularly try to fight back.
>>76
Rather, it’s the Federation that is turning a blind eye to Hamann’s colony drops in exchange for this (money).
It’s the same kind of thing happening in Crossbone and Zanskar.
Emma seriously slaps Camille repeatedly.
I remember in the first episode, laughing heartily while shooting a Vulcan towards the uncle.
At the end, when Camille sadly says, “All I can do is kill people…”, it’s completely understandable.
Wasn’t Karaba part of the Federation?!
I thought you were one of Eugh’s kind…
>>83
Karaba is seriously a crazy mysterious secret organization.
Semi-free ingredients
Giren obliterating both Revil and Degwin is a bit too extreme.
The image is of the Earth Federation squabbling internally while a shady guy appears from inside Jupiter, ready to turn out valuable Jupiter toys.
>>85
I thought it looked interesting, so it feels like a troll has come to interrupt, and regardless of ideology, I have to deal with it properly.
Even though the First showed that there are both good and bad people in both factions, the Titans only bring out the worst.
It seems like the remnants of the Titans, who are angry at those in the Federation, and the AUEG, who are angry at the Titans, are about to have a brawl, and the Neo Zeon is approaching amidst the heat of the situation…
What were the high-ranking officials, who were neither from the Titans nor the AEUG, doing during the time of Z?
>>90
Aren’t you playing around on Earth?
>>90
I was wondering which one would win.
>>90
If you take one side, you’ll be the fool.
Ride with the winner.
>>90
It was said in Johnny’s return that Gopp would let things slide like a stalk of rice, not taking sides in the extreme statements made by the Titans and the backlash from AEUG, so as not to get mud on himself…
>>90
There may be a sense of suspicion towards both sides that makes you reluctant to take a side, but in the meantime, both have grown incredibly large.
Compared to the internal conflict of the Federation, it’s a fight between the private armies of Side XX and Side YY! The Federation army isn’t motivated, so they won’t come.
The clarity of the space feudal era, where the explanation is mostly complete, is remarkable.
No matter how you think about it, Z just couldn’t handle the three factions well…
Karaba is a legitimate anti-Earth Federation organization that has also incorporated groups such as the Zeon African guerrillas.
To put it bluntly, it was just that the story, which was trying to do something like “Dougram” with terrorism and political drama, fell into a slump, and because of interference from above, it got scrapped, and everything was dumped on Sorocco, while the protagonist was destroyed and it was all left in chaos…
I was able to achieve a substantial revenge in Sen Hasa, but…
Sirocco is just a chaotic troublemaker who only wants to play the part of a dark fixer.
It’s partly because having high abilities is making things more troublesome.
>>103
Considering the ability and specs, if Kamille hadn’t taken care of it there, there would have never been another chance to kill Shirocco…
In a federation, there is no such thing as “the most powerful person” because it has a parliamentary system.
So if we apply pressure and gather votes, a bill allowing full powers to the Titans can be passed.
With only 15 episodes left, adding another faction and having a three-way struggle is impossible!
The Suodri and Jupiteris that were destroyed in the story are items that should never be broken…
>>106
Hehe… The second Jupiter-class ship will make its maiden voyage in the final episode of ZZ.
Until then, the big deal with Jupiter is on hold.
>>127
Oh… when I think about it carefully, it’s quite a situation…
>>136
It’s a large transport ship with a one-way travel time of two years, so the operating plan is a mess.
>>127
Hey, isn’t this a pretty big reason why the guy who really hates Earth became like that in Kurobon…?
>>144
Furthermore, the remnants of Zeon on Mars have also made a mess of things, so it’s double the trouble.
>>106
Well… there are quite a few things…
Jupiteris has sister ships that get destroyed in side stories, but…
If anything, the conflict between the government and the military deepened due to the Titans.
It will only lead to dragging each other down.
It’s a burden to review it all at once, so why not try watching the new movie version?
Show me the spin-off where Amuro joins Karaba and pilots the Dijeh…
>>112
There is a tendency to think that it would be better for business to be vague about that kind of thing.
The number of units that Amuro is said to have piloted during the Char’s Counterattack era is increasing!
>>130
Amuro really wanted the Z Gundam! He made the Amuro-exclusive Z Gundam! He can do whatever he wants!
>>112
It’s not a Digimon.
It’s not great to spoil too much for someone who just finished watching it.
Aside from the first generation, the Earth Federation has really lost its motivation, and the situation has escalated to the point where those protecting civilians can be said to be facing rampant behavior.
That bald guy called Delaz is the worst.
There isn’t a strong ideology or anything, so the impression is weak.
Despite that, he messes everything up because he can do something, which makes it the worst. That’s Shirocco.
I didn’t think the Garuda class would be such a massive thing.
>>120
The Titans, let alone the AEUG, are just crap.
>>120
It’s a treasure of humanity at a level that can quite possibly match a mass driver.
This anime is making a living by being cool with Z Gundam…
>>121
It wouldn’t be surprising if you thought that just having game knowledge only amounts to a good appearance.
In my personal opinion, I didn’t think the battles in Z were particularly lame.
It’s not a battle between MS, but the aftermath of the collision between Axis and the Zedan Gate.
The depiction of battleships and MS being caught up in debris and falling is incredibly shocking; it’s one of my favorite scenes from Z!
Those anonymous users in this thread have obviously seen it before, but let’s watch it again starting from around 1:30:52!
If he survives that situation, there’s even a possibility that Shirocco might never appear in public again.
>>123
If I don’t believe in Newtypes and consider that I was only able to believe because of Kamille’s occult powers, then there’s no way I can let them survive and return…
It seems like the worst psycho frame might be awakened at will.
But if it weren’t for Sirocco, wouldn’t the Titans have collapsed?
Even during the time of V Gundam, it’s so uninspired that you can’t help but think these guys should just be dead, the Federation.
I really died decades later.
>>129
However, the reality is that it has become a zombie through a change of ownership.
I never really thought too deeply about it.
I couldn’t even remember when Amuro stopped appearing.
I had a vague understanding, but seeing this, I can really grasp the situation and it’s truly chaotic…
If you don’t prepare Camille with his NT abilities fully developed at that time and place, Sirocco will be unable to kill him and he will escape and hide.
As a result, it’s clear that it will be disturbed even more…
The Eufront and Mahfidi organizations have almost the same concept, don’t they?
The difference is whether it went extinct quietly or dramatically.
Even in the current discussion, even NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) member countries…
Even if there is a war over there, we will not intervene militarily.
Countries that are originally violating the treaty are causing divisions that are becoming news.
Did you watch the movie version too? The ending is different, so if you watch the TV version, I definitely want you to see it.
It seems that the person playing Camille said at the audition not to make a sequel to Gundam.
I wonder what exactly Tomino said in his later sermons.
I kind of take it as that sort of thing.
This is doing something pretty crazy as an addition to the previous work.
What did the remnants of Zeon want?
Reviving Zeon is impossible, right?
>>147
The remaining members cooperating with the AEUG just want to crush the Titans for now.
The Axis (Neo Zeon) group is generally focused on the goal of reviving Zeon.
For that reason, preparations for nuclear attacks on major cities around the world are also being made.
If necessary, I have the physical strength to drop or collide Axiz somewhere.
>>147
Well, it’s not like Zeon has been destroyed or anything… I mean, sure, it’s not a principality anymore, but still.
So, to be blunt, the remnants are just imposing their ideal version of Zeon and causing a ruckus.
After this battle, I want to settle into a shadowy ruler-like position in this chaotic world alongside the girls.
This is Shirocco.
>>148
There’s no point in assassinating Jamitov there, even in terms of building connections.
It’s the worst to feel like a ruler with a really floaty feeling.
Amuro and Char are both weak…
What kind of face are you making, like you’re the ace pilot of some army?
You all weren’t pilots of that level, were you?
In Japan, it’s a crisis where crude oil hasn’t come in for about four years.
Jupitris Explosion
>>150
Seriously, don’t mess with me…
The upper management, having won by riding on the winning horse after both Brex and Char from AEU are gone and the Titans lost, has been consumed by the corruption of the Federation.
Those who were infuriated and defected became the anti-federal organization, Egumu.
Federal Army
Eugo
Titans
Karaba
Jupitoris
Neo Zeon
Zeon
If we go into detail, there are about seven factions in that story.
As a result of everyone fighting until they die, the power dynamics in ZZ become much clearer.
Amuro was strong, right!?
I understood that the Titans and AEUG are different factions of the same Federation, but…
The reason we ended up fighting this much is because the bald guy with glasses poisoned the colony with gas, right?
Is it that people who found out about that started the Eugo and began anti-activities?
I mean, Z has tried to use poison gas about three times, and it’s really off-putting…
If that guy really goes all out (uh-oh… I should probably stop going to the front lines…), it would be the worst possible outcome.
The fact that the previous rival and the previous protagonist are all together, yet it’s not particularly exciting, is surprisingly impressive.
>>158
As soon as they are gathered, Quattro is going to Brex’s place.
From Jupiter’s perspective, the supply of oxygen, water, food, and other necessities suddenly came to a stop.
The reason is the internal conflict within the Earth sphere.
Seriously, don’t mess with me…
Z may not have been that impressive up until a certain point, but didn’t it dominate in the last 10 episodes or so?
Recently, I felt that Camille is really strong.
The Jupiter-class Kobayashi Maru is also listed in the timeline and somehow remains in my memory.
Amuro is weakened by the time he is held by Psycho.
I think Quattro is relatively strong, but in the second half, it really feels like the Hyakushiki’s performance clearly isn’t keeping up with the surrounding units…
In other words, the machines made by Shirocco are incredibly strong…
Even though the higher-ups said not to let Amuro have the Gundam, what is that purple Z Gundam doing?
(Why is Char just normally in the Federation army…?)
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