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Ando Masaomi @miozin35 Ah, I feel like I’ve figured out the true nature of this excitement on X. We are currently experiencing the “2ch discussion board during the original airing of Evangelion” in real time. I couldn’t experience that space when I was a real junior high school student without a computer. I’m reliving it… (As expected, this is the Human Complementation Project.) Okamoto Yuu @okamotolynn·1 day The enjoyment I feel from the Zeke Axis includes the discussions and tidbits about X the following day, so I don’t know if it will still be enjoyable years later. However, it’s a rare thing to receive so much enthusiasm even amidst disputes, so I plan to dance as much as I can while I can. I might regret it later if the ladder is pulled away… June 5, 2025 12:54· 1.34 million views

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:20Yeahx61

It’s not even a suspicious world.

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:21Yeahx30

There was just barely enough computer communication.
There is still no vase.

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:29Yeahx2

>>2I think that’s a bit much…
Stop pretending to be a fool.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:30Yeahx18

>>2I think it wasn’t just at the end of the broadcasting of Eva, but rather during its peak.
When the official Gainax of Nifty was making a big fuss every week.

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:24Yeahx17

The 2chan forum probably started to gain momentum around the Toshiba complaint incident, so I think it was around 1999.
However, I think the movement itself peaked around 1998, which is not the “Shin” theater, so it still feels like it was being discussed quite passionately.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:26Yeahx88

Well, the idea of having a real-time commentary battle on 2ch is completely false.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:26

2ch was created in 1999, right?

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:27Yeahx71

Evangelion’s 2ch opening was in 1999.
Therefore, the “2ch discussion board at the time of broadcasting” does not exist.

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:28Yeahx14

The peak of the jar is the Gundam, right?

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:29Yeahx15

>>7I took a quick peek at it back then, and it was amazing…

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:31Yeahx18

>>8The current criticism of the Giants’ coach is so mild compared to how harshly he was criticized before.

383: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:23

>>8The bulletin board back then was fun.
We were having a great time with a lot of collabs, but there were also some haters…

393: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:25

>>383I was watching Casmin on NHK, which was the competing program.

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:29

Is Neo Barley Tea from the year 2000?

571: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:41

>>10I remember that the broadcast of Love Hina was canceled on the day of the bus hijacking incident right after the anime started.

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:29Yeahx1

Since we were talking on Nifty Serve, it’s more like memory alteration or historical revisionism.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:30Yeahx4

Back in the days of Eva, nifty was probably the largest company.
I was really excited about discussions on Dinosaur Planet and Gene Diver.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:30Yeahx1

The energy of nif was amazing, so maybe that’s where the misunderstanding is.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:31Yeahx2

At that time, it was amazing because the internet environment was just starting to become popular among middle and high school students.

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:31Yeahx9

By 1995, the internet was already in full swing…

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46Yeahx39

>>16Having something and it being widespread are different things, something that fools can’t understand…

293: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:14Yeahx6

>>16Not at all energetic.
Why do you lie?
You’re the most annoying piece of shit, a lying idiot who doesn’t know reality at all. Seriously.
Back then, the internet in Japan was only properly operational at universities, some companies, and research institutions, so those who were knowledgeable about computers were still at a better level…

314: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:16

>>293Are you still not satisfied with the provocation?

319: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:17Yeahx3

>>16Well then, I’ll make the call.

320: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:17

>>319Don’t mess around, die.

658: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:46Yeahx1

>>16It’s the era of dial-up…

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:32Yeahx43

I want the ridiculous culture of “consideration” to finally perish.
It’s just a bunch of guys like the post-Okada Toshio.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:33Yeahx21

The vase is newer than what today’s children think, and the seeds seem older than what today’s children think, creating a discrepancy.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:34

The image I have is that Evangelion gained popularity from the late-night reruns.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:34Yeahx7

I have never considered it.
It ends with something interesting.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:35Yeahx1

Amezou

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:35

Wasn’t there a story about how director Anno was criticized excessively online during the time of the old Evangelion and received death threats?
Isn’t that a jar…?

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37Yeahx3

>>23It’s perfectly reflected in the air.
Don’t blame everything on the pot, Anonymous!

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37Yeahx3

>>23I received direct hits through letters and was graffitied by Gainax.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:35Yeahx1

After all, this is the Human Complementation Project.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:36

A little while ago, there was a thread on a site that compiles logs of BBSs for anime otaku that were active in the 90s.
There might be logs of such discussion threads over there.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37Yeahx5

What is that? It makes it seem like the thread image was a total noob back then.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:39Yeahx2

>>26The person in the thread keeps following me and then unfollowing repeatedly, and I don’t really understand him well.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46Yeahx1

>>37If you unfollow at the timing you get followed back, you can make your following count >>> follower count, which would be cool.

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:40Yeahx16

>>26No, because I’m writing that I couldn’t experience it, so that’s correct.
It looks like a post that has the same vibe as what I experienced back then…

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37

There wasn’t really any response at the time of the Eva broadcast, right?
It’s not like the sudden rise in word-of-mouth popularity was due to a re-broadcast or anything.

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37

>>27The response since the first broadcast has been huge.

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:38Yeahx1

>>27No, not at all. It was one of those crazy anime that got hyped in Animage and was really exciting nationwide in real-time.
I could see it in the countryside too.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:39Yeahx6

>>34I can’t watch it! It’s TV Tokyo!
…it was the last era when there were posts in anime magazines asking, “Please lend me a VHS.”

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:40Yeahx2

>>38I was also begged by a classmate from my hometown to send them a recorded video.

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46

>>43I remember watching it while feeling sleepy, as it was broadcast around 5 AM on Saturday or Sunday, and I was absentmindedly watching Kaworu-kun die.

469: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:32

>>38Nostalgic… “Please lend me the VHS of Episode △ of XX.” That was in every issue, wasn’t it?
There was also a sense of buying and selling.

518: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:36

>>469Isn’t Miyazaki Tsutomu the one who borrowed things like that and never returned them, ending up on various blacklists?

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:38

>>27The only reason it became a topic among the general public was right after the final episode of the first broadcast.
It’s a really talked-about work from the very first episode.

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:37Yeahx10

In the early 90s, there were some people discussing various things on internet message boards, even though it was mostly among otaku.
Isn’t it simply that this person only knows the internet bulletin board 2ch, or is just mistaken and thinks it was 2ch?

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:38

Is there still no Sega BBS?

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:38Yeahx1

The level of civilization among the people in the jar is terrible, but that doesn’t mean that everywhere else is completely proper either.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41

>>33The bulletin boards on personal sites were mostly hell, too…

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:38Yeahx10

Leaving aside whether that can be considered an examination in a dictionary sense, I think the so-called “examination” itself isn’t bad.
It’s backward to say that the YouTuber is annoying like that critic.
I think it’s good to have fun speculating and wondering if that’s a foreshadowing or maybe if this is related to that.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:39

The reason late-night reruns became popular is because of something called telehousing time.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41

>>39Since it has become a social phenomenon, that doesn’t matter.

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:39Yeahx4

That’s nice, isn’t it?
Evangelion Mystery Book Boom

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:40

Sources of information like Eva can be found in Newtype or Fanroad.
Right now, things that are trending on forums and X don’t exist, so instead, the popular attention is focused on noteworthy works.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:40

I remember that it used to get exciting near the end of the broadcast and then be replayed late at night right after.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41Yeahx1

In Niigata, or somewhere, you can only see Eva in the prefecture from the top of a mountain that is about 1000 meters high.
On the day of the broadcast, did the fans really flock like a parade…? I wonder if that’s true.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41Yeahx2

This is a valuable example of a network bulletin board that has existed since 1986 and retains all its logs.
You can see the impressions and responses from when anime and games were released in the early 90s.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42Yeahx3

>>46Wow, it’s amazing that there are people who tried to preserve things like this…
The place I was watching has probably all disappeared by now…

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46Yeahx7

>>46It’s already a cultural heritage.

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48Yeahx1

>>46Is this article a thread or a response?

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

>>83It’s a response.
It should be noted with “Re:” in the title to indicate that this is a reply.

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:55

>>46Wow… If we save the logs, they might become historical documents in the future… but honestly, I don’t think anyone would keep logs for 30 years…
The capacity may be small now, but it’s a hassle to always back it up and transfer it every time I swap media…
Finally, it’s 2025 and it might have historical value? But around 2005 or 2010, it would probably just be seen as garbage, right? I feel like my feelings might waver about that.
I’m grateful for amazing people…

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41

There wasn’t such a passionate online community at the time of the TV broadcast.
The nameless house probably barely had a monochrome mobile phone, if at all.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42

>>48…A monochrome mobile phone?

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:41

I feel like there was a time when personal homepages mostly had bulletin boards attached.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:43Yeahx1

>>50Isn’t it a bit earlier than that?

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51

>>50The internet was a more relaxed time, so the forums there felt more casual.
The online bulletin board was similar to today’s social media, so the sense of suffocation was quite unusual.
It’s the same with X, but I just can’t feel motivated at all.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42

I wish there was a way to deal with people who think the internet has always been just 2chan.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:44Yeahx1

>>51For example, there probably aren’t any anonymous users left who can accurately recount the history of this place and the message boards, and even those who were there at the time likely have mixed memories.
That’s just how it is…

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42

At that time, even though personal computers existed, they were being adopted by companies and schools, while only a limited number of individuals, such as tech enthusiasts, otaku, and researchers, owned them compared to now, right?
I remember that anonymous message boards didn’t exist, and interactions were limited to personal emails and chat rooms for a few people on BBSs that required login, which were very small and intimate…

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:43Yeahx6

>>54Do you not know about the Windows 95 boom?

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48Yeahx3

>>60It was in the news, but even so, there weren’t many houses that people owned.
You know, it’s really not good to judge everything just based on news or fragments from that time, so you should stop.
In some parts of the city, that may be the case, but I think it’s crazy to believe that everyone had that level. If that were the case, the current elderly should be able to use computers a bit better.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50Yeahx1

>>87Wow…

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51

>>102Young people don’t understand the feel of it, right?

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:44Yeahx3

>>54What are you saying…?

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:45Yeahx1

>>54In 1995, more than 5 million PCs were sold in a year…

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:45Yeahx1

>>54At the time of this broadcast, that’s not the case.
The personal computer itself became widely popular in households with Windows 95, and the spread accelerated even further with Windows 98.
In 1999, many middle-class families had personal computers.

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42

Was the first airing of Eva a late-night broadcast?

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42

It’s been said before that those who can’t enjoy themselves end up taking on the attacking role.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:42Yeahx1

At the time of the broadcast, it wasn’t that exciting.
The final episode became a hot topic for being a complete mess, which sparked interest during its rerun and turned into a social phenomenon by the time the movie was released.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:43Yeahx9

>>57Don’t respond from a parallel world.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:43

It’s not about whether there was a jar back then, but more like what it would have been like if 2ch existed during the Edo period.

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:44

I was accessing electronic bulletin boards with a word processor.

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:44

“Otaku are so annoying.”

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:45Yeahx2

I’ve heard that Eva was indeed heavily debated in things like computer communications.
What comes to the general public are the mysterious books that used to be found at Village Vanguard.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:45

When it comes to the excitement of discussions on message boards, the first thing that comes to mind is Higurashi.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46

Why was I casually over 40 when I was in the second year of junior high?
So this is the kind of understanding you have?

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46

>>70What kind of perspective are you getting angry from?

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:46

It’s the era when NIFTY and PCVAN engaged in a bloody battle of ideas, right? I know, I know.

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:47

Telehopping has been around since 1995, after all.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:47

Criticism based solely on “I think this way” is bullshit.
However, they boldly declare about freedom of interpretation and such.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48

>>79The concept of contemplation itself is originally something of that degree, right?
One should not make judgments based on such splendid and academic research as a premise.

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:47Yeahx1

I’m saying compared to now… Back then, it was 14.6% at the household level.What are you talking about?

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48Yeahx2

>>80It’s totally less widespread compared to now, right?
Did you not understand?

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

>>82Why not stop adding to the shame?
Let’s honestly say sorry!

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49Yeahx4

>>88The part where Noname-chan is silly for not responding with data when data is provided.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50Yeahx2

>>88You’re the one who says that computers were widely popular back then, adding to the shame.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

>>82Do you know what a household is?
It’s at the level where 14% includes all the houses where grandpa is alone, so it’s like every otaku has it.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50

>>92That didn’t happen.
I’m sorry, but…

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:47

The line for Win95 was certainly amazing.
Looking back now, even if they say there will be a new release like 3.1, I can’t help but think it’s not something to look forward to that much.
I wonder if it became a hot topic like “It’ll be like a Mac on Windows!”

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48

There are more people using exaggerated language these days…

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:48Yeahx2

Yeah… What are you talking about, even though I provided statistical data? Do you really think it’s going to work?

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49Yeahx5

In the first place, the thread image is saying that they didn’t have a computer.
After I started using the internet, I heard that otaku were talking online back then, and I thought that there were also collectibles at that time.
It’s just a misunderstanding and not an intention to act knowledgeable or to distort history.

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51

>>89Either way, it’s obvious that I’m being treated like a fool, but the classification is different, isn’t it?

144: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:57Yeahx1

>>105That’s too much…

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

It seems that my mom was responding with a character from a seed in a jar, but that sounds ridiculous!? Yet, considering the years, I can’t help but feel confused.
I also have memories of using events with handsome actors from Kamen Rider as an excuse to go out…

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

I remember that in the mid-90s when I was in elementary school, there was a service at the nearby Tsutaya where you could use the internet for 500 yen per hour.
There was also a place in front of the station where you could use the internet for 400 yen an hour… I used to go there a lot, bringing a bunch of floppy disks to search for CG.
A few years later, I was using the internet at home, so I guess it spread rapidly…

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

I didn’t have the image that computer communication was thriving during the Evangelion era.
Isn’t it an era where the OS has become comfortable?

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:49

I mean, my dad has a Mac, and I’ve been using it since I was in early elementary school.
I started interacting with others on the internet while staying at home since middle school.
Around 1998, I suppose…
It seems that YahooBB’s ADSL came out shortly after that.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51Yeahx1

>>95They were handing out CDs and modems to experience the internet in front of the station and all around…
I didn’t really understand the meaning back then because I was in elementary school.

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52Yeahx1

>>95YahooBB’s ADSL has been since 2001.
In areas like Tokyo Metropolis, ADSL is faster in the early stages, but limited.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50

I followed Okamoto Rintarō’s tweets, and they are quite interesting.
It’s only natural that such a manga is drawn based on logic.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50Yeahx3

Why are you trying to compare the overall diffusion rate in society with the discussions that were heated among otaku on such bulletin boards?
If you say that, even Comiket has been a long-standing major event in the otaku world, but it’s not like a certain percentage of the entire society attends it.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50

Around the end of the bubble, PCs became essential in the business sector.
When trying to get a loan at the bank, they make you buy a PC.
“I was told, ‘Please do banking with this and the telephone line.'”
PC with 286 CPUs flooded the country like crazy.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:50

It seems that there were quite a few people who had just started playing online games after spending time on DC…

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51Yeahx1

>>101As expected, it’s really sparse!

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:51Yeahx1

In the early days of Win95, there were probably quite a few households with PCs that were not connected to the internet.
People who use it for Ichitaro or Excel.
It started with the spread of ADSL, didn’t it? Internet at home and such.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

>>108The internet and the web are two different things.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

If you’re going to argue, you should just provide the data…

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

By 1998, it was said that there was one per household (excluding households with only elderly people).

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

>>110It didn’t exist.

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53

>>114Where was it said?
On what survey results can it be said that there was none?
If both sources are unknown, it will turn into an aerial battle in the fog.

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:55

>>123This battle… I will make it last.

136: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56Yeahx1

>>131Don’t try to make continuing the respawn battle sound cool!

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52Yeahx5

Windows 95 sold well, but until the widespread adoption of ISDN, the hurdles for the internet were still high.
I think it started in earnest around Windows 98.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:52

Since the Internet was included in the top ten of the 1995 buzzword awards, can we say that it started to spread after that?

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53

>>115In 1995, there were many ways of using it that were quite similar to a word processor.
Even if people say the internet is widespread, it’s stupid to say that everyone was doing it back in ’98!

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:55

>>115There was a time when we used to use the internet without using the word “internet.”
It uses its own connection software equipped with TCP/IP to connect to the Internet.
Things like calling it hyper something or gateway whatever.
With Windows 95 adopting TCP/IP, the term “Internet” became common.

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53

The spread of the internet happened after YahooBB distributed it for free, right?

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53Yeahx5

It's impressive that you can acknowledge your mistakes!
It’s impressive that you can acknowledge your mistakes!

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53

Teleho day started in 1995, after all…

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53Yeahx2

It is true that Win95 became a boom and started to penetrate households from there.
It will still take some time before it feels normal for every household to have one.

155: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58

>>120Around that time, computer classes started to emerge, and to be honest, it was an era when you couldn’t easily gather information from the internet like now, so you either had to learn or read books. People who think it suddenly became widespread are just foolish…

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:53

It became widely popular with Win98, but…
That is a story for middle-class families or above.
I think that for families in poverty, their impressions change depending on the environment in which they grew up.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:54Yeahx4

It’s more like a conversation at school the day after the jump was released.

245: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:11

>>124“Krillin is dead! 111!”

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:54

I think back on how PCs have become more widespread not just for work or gaming purposes, but as more casual information devices.
It was around the time my cousin’s older sister, who was a college student, bought a Bombay Blue iMac.
In 1998 or 1999.

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:54

Not to mention Windows 95, the true widespread adoption of internet connections started around the introduction of ISDN to ADSL, so it shifts to around Windows 98.

137: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56Yeahx2

>>126Whether or not you can connect to the internet is just a matter of whether the modem is equipped or not, so the situation is a bit different.

127: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:54

Looking back, the time from dial-up to the start of ADSL was surprisingly short!

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:54

I think I started to feel that I could comfortably use the internet at home from the early to mid-2000s.

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:55Yeahx1

Is it a misunderstanding that it was not me who was doing it, but that Eva was probably exciting the discussion board?
Well, I can just about forgive it.

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56

In times like this, reading Kochikame might help you understand the sense of the times.
I’m not familiar with Kochikame, so I don’t know how Ryo-san was using the internet in the mid-90s.

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56Yeahx4

Many people might have their first internet experience with their father’s Win95 PC.

654: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:46

>>134That’s the kind we have here.
Although it deviates from the broadcast period, I was voraciously reading Eva FF.

135: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56

I believe the fastest device that allowed the general public to access the internet relatively cheaply was the Dreamcast.

138: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56

When we were playing Chu Chu Rocket on the Dreamcast, using the internet on home computers hadn’t really become widespread yet, right?

143: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:57

>>138At that time, it was quite widespread.

150: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58Yeahx1

>>138I think it was just before it started to become widespread.
Whether it’s pay-as-you-go or flat-rate is really a big deal.

158: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:59Yeahx1

>>138I think it was as widespread as what we now call a gaming PC.
In other words, it means that only those who are really motivated have it.

161: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:00Yeahx3

>>158That’s how it feels, right?

168: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01

>>158That’s true.
I think it might be less than now.
In an era where you can only learn how to use things through books or word of mouth, it’s ridiculous to say “It became incredibly popular like this in ’95!” when you were a kid who didn’t know any better at the time… If you go back in your mind to a time before it was common for information to pop up online, it becomes clear right away…

178: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:02Yeahx1

>>168It’s quite disgraceful for an old man to respond harshly while saying that only kids don’t know that era.

139: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56Yeahx2

https://www.maple.town/bbs/194/l/0001-0051/
On the site above, you can see the logs from the broadcast of Evangelion here.
It feels like there’s quite a bit of excitement around various discussions and analyses.
Of course, this is likely just a part of it.

140: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56

There was a casual computer that was kind of transparent, right?

146: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:57

>>140I was wondering if that’s the group that had their computers early.
I started with the next iMac.

141: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:56

The internet that can be said to be generally common for the average person started with i-mode.
Even that had a bit of a lag from the service launch (in 1999) to its spread.
It’s unimaginable that PCs were so widespread that anyone could just use them and connect to the internet.

170: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01

>>141That way of saying it seems likely to create a misunderstanding…
If you want to, anyone can touch it and connect to the internet, and that was the state before 1998 (there were no high technical hurdles).
It became popular in the sense of wanting to actually try it after 1998.
Aren’t we all repeating the story separately with discrepancies since a while ago?

142: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:57

I feel like it was called computer communications until it became widespread.

149: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58

>>142My hobbies include things like internet surfing and nostalgic words.

145: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:57

A fan of Higurashi who gives the middle finger to commentary YouTubers.

147: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58Yeahx1

It’s funny that they didn’t delete it even though it’s just a fake.
It feels like a dung beetle here.

148: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58

I wonder if the personal homepage and BBS started around 1996.

151: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58

When was the Internet Expo?
It’s during Prime Minister Mori’s time, right?

152: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58

I like this anime director, but the occasional lapses in detail are a minor flaw.

154: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58Yeahx2

The serious internet old generation is
There are quite a few people who seriously hate the jars, so mixing them up is a hassle.

162: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:00

>>154I don’t know if you lost in a debate or if your shop or your family’s shop went under due to false rumors, but it’s probably just misplaced resentment anyway.

156: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:58Yeahx1

The fact that something has spread or not is just everyone’s personal opinion, isn’t it?
I think it’s fair to say that there was widespread adoption since the total number of subscribers for Nif and VAN in 1995 was 2 million.

157: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:59Yeahx1

>>156It’s not something that is almost in every household.
In addition, it’s foolish to judge based on the number of subscribers as companies use several.

160: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:00

>>157??

165: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01Yeahx1

>>157Is PCVAN for corporate users?

179: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:02

>>157Services like Nifty provide unused lines from companies to individuals at a low cost, so there are no corporate contracts.

159: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)09:59Yeahx1

Seeing the figure of 14.6% for the penetration rate
Only a limited number of people have it.
Recognizing it as a trap of % is too much of a pitfall.

163: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:00

Transparent computers have models where the windows move and others that are fake and don’t move.

169: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01

>>163Sotec is the knockoff, right!

164: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01

I think it really became widespread around the time of Windows 98.
I have memories of corresponding with a girl I’m unfamiliar with on PostPet, realizing that even those who don’t seem interested in PCs are using the internet now.

166: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01

I feel like in the old days, if you were a child from a wealthy family, you had internet access.

167: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:01Yeahx4

Isn’t the key point whether discussions and impressions were thriving among internet otaku, rather than the adoption rate itself?
It’s meaningless to respond with “I think it’s popular because otaku were using the internet there” without defining what you mean by “popular,” when I think it’s not popular because not everyone in general households is doing it, right?

182: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:03

>>167Even at that time, there wasn’t much communication going on over the internet.
In the first place, the thread image is saying something completely wrong by claiming it was at the time of the broadcast.

185: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:04Yeahx3

>>182Well, it’s just a partial example above, but the logs from the discussion board during the broadcast are posted.

202: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:07Yeahx1

>>185Seriously, it’s just a very small part of that.

189: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/06(Fri)10:04

>>167There is no positive meaning in the response itself aimed at defeating the opponent…

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