Because it’s crying.
Death is the result!
Not a metaphor, but a curse.
I don’t remember it well since I played it over 20 years ago, but…
Wasn’t it like some sort of curse from a past life?
In short, it refers to the influence of the curse placed on Kanata in the past arc (Kanzuki is the reincarnation of Kanata).
>>5Did something happen with self-poisoning?
A clan that has been under a curse for a long time (reincarnated body) but.
This is a story about how, in this generation, the wishes of Urahana and others were finally conveyed, allowing us to return to a proper cycle of reincarnation.
It’s too wicked to be reincarnated and cursed without any relation to bloodline.
It’s complicated when the place of reincarnation is the past instead of the future.
If you go through it, you’ll definitely understand, right?!
Long? Yeah
>>10It’s been so long that it’s understandable if I barely remember things…
>>7Due to the influence of Kanrin’s curse, the “humans” around Kanrin also weaken because of the curse, so they have discarded their humanity to stay close to Kanrin.
It should have been.
How do you quit being human…?
I want to touch Kaname-chan’s butt.
The lengthy and heavy developments are so overwhelming that it breaks my spirit to read it a second time just to grasp everything.
>>15Let’s watch some anime!
I understand the general flow, but there are questions like why the curse ended and why they are reincarnated in the same era.
>>16In the end, I created a happy memory.
If you are a puppeteer, then it’s just that the blood continues.
>>16First, the reason for the repeated reincarnation is that due to the nature of the winged people, to put it simply, “winged people must die happily or they are forcibly reincarnated.”
However, because of the curse, both myself and the people around me are weakened, so I can’t die happily and have been reincarnating over and over again.
The feelings and determination that the Kunisaki family poured into the dolls.
If judged by close people, one weakens together with them, but if it’s just the individual, dying before finishing and having to reincarnate is terrible.
The impression that the remaining two characters’ routes are not really foreshadowing is too strong, which is also a concern.
>>18If you read it knowing everything, you can understand that it’s all because of Kanagawa’s curse.
The curse from my past life is too unreasonable.
>>21I thought the power of the Rewrite Saint was about turning people into slaves, but it seems like it is preferentially inherited by those who are nearby—almost like an infectious disease? Coupled with the accumulation of negative emotions, it led to a terrible and extreme form of coarseness, which was really intense.
As I said, it was Misuzu-chan who ended this curse, so it has come to an end with me…
Those monks’ curse is way too wicked, right?
Kunikaki is the best, right?
Being with someone close makes me feel like I’m cursed to become irritable and weak, leading to isolation until death.
Thanks to Haruko, who stayed with me despite everything, I faced my end not in loneliness, so the curse that had been broken has disappeared.
Even so, among Key’s works, this one does actually explain causality and other things relatively well.
Reincarnation Ability: Original of the Winged One
Curse: Mount Koya
The story of how the bad combination resulted in collateral damage affecting the entire town.
On a bulletin board with long posts like a jar, it’s difficult to have discussions about post-play impressions if you miss the timing.
Is it correct to say that the monks of Mount Koya are at fault?
>>33It’s not us.
That guy is reincarnating on his own.
I don’t know.
What has been done
>>33So that’s why you were burned by Nobunaga.
>>169On Mount Hiei, that…
The more I hear, the more I wonder what is up with Haruko.
The last summer when Kanon and Haruko made up their minds.
>>31But her breasts are big.
>>36Well, there are quite a few of them, huh…
>>36But it’s painful… I didn’t want to feel this way…
In recent works of the Key series, it’s been difficult to engage in “umishiko” in Summer Pockets: Extra Edition, but in RB, I can do “umishiko” without hesitation.
This time, I have feelings for Shiki’s 14-year-old body… and the thought of the monument crosses my mind, creating two conflicting feelings!
I took Kanon first.
In the second half of the route, time suddenly flies by, and I thought, “Hey, this also happened in Mai’s route…”
It would be nice if winged people were to be reborn as winged people, but it seems they’ve started to be reborn as humans…
The previous work also had a spirit that ran away after eating, so I guess that’s just how the fantasy elements are… and that was acceptable.
Koyasan is amazing.
I can make jokes about things like “omeko tickets” individually, but overall, I have enough affection for it that it’s hard to make light of it.
When I was reading Da-mae’s scenario, it was really moving, but after I cried a lot, while I was in the bath…
What’s that story about in the end? It tends to be that way.
Kanzuru ends up dying, but it’s good that the curse was lifted!
I feel like I can’t honestly say yes.
>>47You guys have tough days ahead, but well, do your best, so it’s as expected since I put that in at the end.
>>47This summer, I decided to give it my all, and since I saw it through to the end, this is good enough.
It’s a story of a little determination of a girl…
Break the curse and reincarnate, and this time, be happy… It’s actually one of the more serious endings among Key’s heroines (in the sense that there might be a happy future waiting, right?).
The strength and determination of the clan that has continuously inherited blood and power while searching for a place to reincarnate in order to lift the curse.
Why do you die so quickly?
All the connections are concentrated on Kanon, and Yoshino and Minagi are seriously side heroines.
>>52I guess this girl is the main heroine… She’s properly acting as the main heroine since it’s a Key work.
It’s pretty much half and half with this manufacturer… there are questions like whether you’re the true heroine or if you’re the true protagonist.
>>52That’s why the rice ticket ending is the most refreshing and gentle.
When I saw the visual illustration during the first report of the rewrite production, I had a memory of feeling a Misuzu-like atmosphere from the image of the little bird.
Well, in a way, what was really behind it was that tree in the back.
Grr…
Watching this anime gives you energy.
Prohibition of alcohol
It’s a story that won’t be resolved without death, so if you try to fundamentally resolve it, you will definitely die.
Kanzaki Kanon, who was abandoned by a homeless person, has a tragic past…
>>58I want you to become a bitch who, realizing that a fleeting relationship has no impact on the mind and body, changes partners one after another.
“From the perspective of the cursed future generations, it looks like this: ‘I will curse you for all eternity.'”
I don’t want the next incarnation of Kanon to be happy.
I wanted Kanade to be happy just as she is.
>>61By accomplishing this, you will become Summer Poket Reflection Blue.
Kazune’s father is Okazaki’s IF, right?
I couldn’t face my daughter until the end…
>>63Ah, in that sense, he is the first father character who couldn’t face the child in Key’s works.
The other two are not entirely unrelated either…
Even in the final generation, the curse will fly to others, making it even worse.
Perhaps the reason I came to like a moist escape ending with the heroine is because of this and the influence of Tsukikage no Kage.
>>67I remember that the blood relations of the heroine sisters were quite tangled.
“I want to throw everything away and run away with Minagi, don’t you!?”
It’s not something to easily do to curse someone.
What did Mount Koya want to achieve?
>>71A person with wings is nothing but a monster, right?
>>71I wanted to delete the annoying winged person.
Reincarnation is probably not expected.
>>71It was a monster that cursed those around it, so I had it confined, but since it escaped, I tried to subdue it by layering curses.
Yoshino was a bit… no, quite out of it.
You, Mount Koya…
In other words, you want to make a beautiful girl die to get some tears, right?
>>74Hmm, maybe it’s a bit different. An attack on the player with the heroine’s death! Maybe?
The works that follow will head towards a happy ending, but they will still subtly retain the element of clouding for the player.
>>74Dying is merely a result.
Kanz ringing lived as she wanted and ended up dying young as a result, but…
What is important is that I could say it was good at the moment of death.
Yoshino’s older sister was naughty…
Nostalgic, isn’t it? Tsuki Kagerou.
It is sometimes said that the cause is partly due to Kanagawa inheriting the curse from Yao Bikuni.
Even if the curse remains with the 800-year-old nun, it will probably transfer to some mother somewhere…
Marrying Sei and casually nibbling on my little sister is just right.
I think I’ve done it properly and read the discussions, so I feel like I understand it to some extent.
I still don’t accurately understand what kind of beings the two at the beginning of the end are.
>>81Reincarnation is not related to the flow of time, so it is possible to be reborn from the future to the past.
>>81I’ll leave that to your imagination.
When an individual is convinced, that’s the end of it.
You don’t think that the souls of the Okazaki family have been absorbed by that doll, do you…?
>>88This is Kazuki…
>>88It was no good getting caught up in Okazaki all of a sudden.
>>94Is that why Shio died!
I won’t forgive you, Don Thousand!
In reality, the wings of the winged people are incredible cursed objects that cause a lot of negative effects in the surroundings, so they are very dangerous.
I can’t affirm death.
It’s only by living that we exist.
I was made to cry by Kero-chan.
What Kanazuki wanted to achieve was to make friends and a boyfriend who would play with her.
It’s unexpected for the person to end up dying, right!
Winged people inherit memories and curses from their parents, so the after-service is perfect.
I wonder if the otaku at the time didn’t think anything of it, even though it was directly based on ONE and Haruki Murakami’s “Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World.”
>>98The Shizuku no Omoide School doesn’t really get talked about much, so it is what it is.
>>103Indeed
Just like Koichi Sugiyama brought classical music to games, the early days of eroge were interesting because various creators with different backgrounds got to freely express themselves within the format.
>>128It seems to have become more of a place for expressions with loose regulations rather than for erotic purposes.
>>134It’s the same as how famous film directors start their careers with pornographic films.
It’s unrelated, but I remembered when we were watching an old movie and Kunikazu was present in the scene at the goal; my friend and I were like, “We have various complaints, but first, Kunikazu should just disappear.”
I’m sorry it’s not rice…
When I asked Director Dezaki why he killed off key characters, he said it was because it would be more emotional, and I got angry, right?
>>102That is CLANNAD.
Misuzuchin’s behavior is strange, but it’s unrelated to the curse…
>>104It’s a curse that prevents me from making friends, so my eccentric behavior stands out because of that.
>>104It may not be unrelated, as there is a possibility that I am getting weird because I can hardly interact with others.
Although the top characters are often the topic of conversation, to be honest, I like Yanagiya-dono more as the protagonist.
I mean, no matter where you cut it, Yanagiya-dono only has the reliable older brother element.
In Little Busters, it was planned to end with all characters except Riki and Rin dead until the production was halfway through (probably it would really end at the hospital ending).
>>109Being sad and crying are different things.
>>109It had become a legend in a bad way.
>>116As a result of concluding with a comeback development from the hospital room end, it has now created a legend in a different sense… Kyousuke (while looking at the popularity poll)
Was the movie that subtle?
I don’t remember much of the content anymore, but I do remember thinking at the time that it didn’t deserve all the criticism it received.
>>110There’s no need to do it with AIR… that’s the thing.
Even after 20 years, such media mixes continue to be produced.
Okazaki and Kunisaki!
This child is just acting that way on the surface, but they are not actually a stupid kid.
Once I got closer, I stopped interacting with others because my friend is dying of weakness, and there are times when I become irritable…
Dezaki AIR is well… um…
It’s great that it was happening simultaneously at Kyoto Animation.
>>115It’s good to consider it as a standalone piece, but it’s not AIR, right?
>>119Isn’t the direction a bit outdated and awkward even as a standalone work?
>>126It’s Dezaki…
Since they can’t make friends, they say they’re looking for strange juices and playing alone, so the curse really has a lot to do with their personality…
“If I were to explain ‘It’s okay to finish now’ to someone who doesn’t know AIR using a line from Little Busters.”
Well, once I receive this (the last pitch), I have to leave… it will be goodbye.
Even though it’s unavoidable, I was in a state of receiving half-neglect, being forced to maintain a distant and formal attitude toward Haruko, who has been like a guardian to me.
Haruko is too much to handle as well.
It’s nice to have a deep conversation while drinking with Aunt Haruko…
Damee’s greatest masterpiece is the Makoto scenario.
I want to see you facing difficulties.
I don’t want to see a bad ending.
Let’s see! A key, etc.!
I have no memory of Misuzuchin’s dad being helpful.
If we were to put it in today’s terms, Umi-chan’s dad is a good match… but Umi-chan’s dad was that kind of guy, and it’s only because there was just one memory he failed to dispose of properly.
It is not a bad ending because the feelings that had continued for so long bore fruit, allowing me to return happy memories in the end…
After going through everything, just lightly reading other people’s explanations and playing again finally makes you go, “Ah~”
It’s roundabout!!!
>>132I wanted to see a happy intimate scene after the two of us overcame the curse…!
But you know, in the end, Kanon was happy!
What is the route to get Haruko drunk, have unprotected sex, and then escape?
>>138Kunisaki is the worst!!
>>142Everybody say!
>>138It’s impossible because Kunisaki will collapse first.
If you don’t include erotic elements, it won’t sell as an adult game.
I don’t dislike otaku who start talking fluently about knowledge I didn’t even ask for, taking a stance as if their understanding is different from mine.
It feels nostalgic.
I vaguely remember, but the erotic scene was really short, right?
Only the sister rice bowl scene of the Kirishima sisters will be excluded.
It’s nice, isn’t it… Minagi’s BAD route.
Well, the answer is that I’ve become the kind of person who can cry in just 2 seconds at that sea.
Kunisaki is also… Kunisaki is also a male…
Isn’t it scary how people who can talk in detail gather within 2 or 3 minutes of the thread being created?
Are you time slipping?
>>150As expected, it’s a work from about 10 years ago, so everyone has a vague memory of it.
>>152It’s 25 years ago…
>>150It’s not particularly strange, boy, it’s just a leaf key.
>>150It’s a famous work…
It was common around the year 2000 to have bad eroge counter scenarios when you got involved.
>>153Since I got caught up in this in the past, I’ve started to save my progress when it seems like I’m about to go to an erotic stage.
I’m sorry… The truth is, it’s for the purpose of getting off during the erotic scene…
>>153If anything, this manufacturer is also doing Little Busters! Ecstasy!
Is it okay? Choosing this option? I ended up forcefully selecting the wrong choice! And then…
It’s just the same thing as when it was Muji, but with erotic scenes, what a deal! …No, this is a bit tough.
Many old otaku have their brains fried by key games.
I think there are more people who only remember it vaguely…
I don’t remember why Kunizaki is wandering around the country.
>>155That itself is just like a parent’s order.
A clan that has been searching solely for a girl with wings.
>>155Weren’t you wandering around, trying to find the daughter of the woman with wings as a way of somehow honoring your mother’s last wish?
>>155I think it was something like being part of a long line of puppet masters, being dragged around by my mother, and while wandering aimlessly, searching for the destined girl to solve the Zonaha disease, which is the curse of the winged people, in order to carry on that legacy.
In other words, an elite homeless person with zero education.
>>168Something is mixed in… no, it’s right.
>>168Kunizaki… This place is hell (watching Misuzuchin gradually suffer more and more).
>>146Since I was able to see the route of saying goodbye to Michiru first, the memories of that side came to be known later.
Today, laugh heartily at my puppet show!
>>158The brush that crawled on the ground like an insect was no good.
There are probably people who just remembered it since the anime was recently being streamed.
Because it’s a masterpiece of classic literature…
Well, it’s true that I don’t really understand it well now, though.
It was harder to understand on the beach.
I remember being connected to the city, but I don’t remember what that space was.
It’s rare for both members of a couple to disappear instead of just one dying.
Even though I decided to face it with resolve, it ends up being just one summer.
Haruko has well recovered.
When it was captured in Koyasan, it had already become a nuisance that spread curses to those close to it, so it was really just exterminated as a monster…
The nature of accumulating the curse of the winged people is bad…
>>175I stayed alone because if I got close to someone, I would end up killing them with a curse, just like my mother…
Well, in the end, it was passed down to my daughter, and I ended up in a reincarnation loop as a human.
Is it possible that Haruko is too good of a person…?
>>176That’s really true.
So it’s super pitiful.
>>176Upon careful consideration, the idea that a high school girl brought home a homeless person seems almost too mild, even for a shed.
To be honest, I’ve only played the CS version and have never tried the original erotic game version.
>>177It almost doesn’t change.
There’s no need to watch any erotic scenes other than Minagi BAD!
>>177There is hardly any difference as long as there’s eroticism that is difficult to get aroused in the situation.
I think having a voice makes CS better.
I haven’t played Samapoke yet, but I have a strong feeling that if I do, I’ll probably write my thoughts about it here after falling behind.
>>178Umi-chan is 12 years old, isn’t she… And before I knew it, I felt that Umi-chan was still 12 years old…! (Original)
>>178Recently, I think it’s fine to not worry about the ghosts gathering, saying that they’ve played Kanon or Air and encouraging more writing of their anonymous impressions.
The Omoi-de Church used to explain the setting of radio waves, which often triggered a Polorokka effect.
Are you okay? Won’t someone from the Shingon sect get mad?
I didn’t quite understand the fate of Kunisaki.
No matter how painful it was, Kurumi acted bravely until the end in front of Haruko, and that’s commendable.
You can go ahead and finish now.
>>191That’s enough… it’s enough already! I was shown such a scene of suffering that I… felt clouded. (Home version)
The reincarnated body has to inherit the records, but isn’t it the case that humans can’t endure the amount of data being transmitted, leading to their weakening and death?
But, you know…
I prefer the bad route of Minagi.
>>194A retreat into a declining love is nice, isn’t it?
Is KANON really going to do it in this freezing cold…? That’s a bit amusing.
I think about 10% of the movie version has a wandering Joe Yabuki mixed in.
I don’t really remember the whole thing, but was there an erotic scene in Kanagawa?
I can only remember scenes with Kanon and Minagi.
I was crying a lot due to the live feeling when I was watching the anime, but I didn’t really understand it… After reading this thread, I realize that’s what it was all about.
Depending on the medium, one side may survive.
There is no one who can survive both.
When I asked if she would come back with a happy ending for Minagi, she promised without fail in return.
A wandering life without keeping promises → Can’t meet.
Fulfill the promise → Die
A memory that brings the thought that we will never meet again, anyway.
Kunzaki did it with Misuzu-chan… that’s the worst…
I can’t help but laugh every time I see the depiction of the rough waves that reminds me of the Japan Sea, so I really like the Dezaki version.
Why does Kurosaki Saiko die? Is it for the vibe?
Minagi isn’t really like that, but isn’t Yoshino a bit on the weak side in the anime?
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