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[KochiKame] I didn’t dislike it, but I found it strange why they were so pushy about it back then.

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:52Yeahx2

You can use original characters as you like.

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:53Yeahx39

It’s not an original anime!?!

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:54Yeahx28

This is a postcard requesting that the robot police box be preserved.

And this is the postcard to destroy the robot police box!!

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:56Yeahx4

Dame Taro is not an anime original…

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:56Yeahx15

Something about the appearance looks like an original anime.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:58

It was only for that occasion for Number 1 to 3, wasn’t it?

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:58Yeahx3

I prefer the anger flame over the intervention.

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)11:59

I wondered if my impression would be different if I watched it later instead of in real-time…

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:06

In the original work, there was something written in the story about how the survey for the robot police station wasn’t very good, so they seemed to have given up halfway through.

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:08

>>9I wonder if that was for real…

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:09Yeahx8

The people who say they got strange after going to the sushi restaurant mostly forget about these guys.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:11Yeahx11

>>11I haven’t read it at all because there’s been about 20 years between these guys and the sushi shop.

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:12

>>11I liked these guys, but I hate sushi restaurants.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:09Yeahx5

There was a time when Nakagawa suddenly went back to his original hairstyle after changing it.
“Did that really happen?” I pretended it didn’t.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:10Yeahx2

Kochikame is regularly strange, isn’t it?

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:14Yeahx2

>>13The fact that Kochikame itself was created as a gag series with the premise of being a police story about gun rampages in Japan is already somewhat strange.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:10Yeahx9

It’s been odd since the beginning.

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:12

I don’t dislike Honda and Professor Ezaki, but during the time they were excessively featured, reading them all at once can feel a bit overwhelming.

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:19

>>16The cycle of completely adding new characters, frequently using them for jokes, and then dropping them to a semi-regular status once their freshness has expired was fully established around that area.
Matoi is treated as a violation class, so it’s an exception.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:33

>>16I see, I like Maria.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:12

It seemed like they were having a line about building another structure next to it.
I wonder if they really intended to do more than just the robot police station.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:16

>>18That’s the Osaka police station branch, right?

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:20

>>21It’s about what the Arab oil king said right after the robot.
But I guess you did it because you really wanted to do that, right?

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:14

Wasn’t there an Osaka gang next to the police box?

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:16Yeahx3

I didn’t think Osaka was particularly bad, to be honest.
The first appearance of Kochikame in Osaka was quite boring overall.

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:30Yeahx2

>>22I think the transitional period where the focus shifted from Ryo-san as the main character causing chaos to spotlighting the supporting characters, making Ryo-san take a step back, was the most boring time in KochiKame.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:16

Because I started with the anime, I thought Maria had a penis in the original work, and I thought Ezaki spoke in a strange way.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:18

>>23In the original work, Ginjirou is not a Tokyo University graduate, Honda’s sister Eve doesn’t change her personality even when riding an elephant, and the swimsuit detective doesn’t weaken even if his tie is taken away.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:33

>>23Does the original Maria not have a penis?! Didn’t she remove it or something?

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35

>>68I was lucky, but I turned into a woman with magic and stayed that way.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:17

The Osaka business trip police station must have received a fair number of complaints, yet they don’t break things in a funny way.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:18

There was a story where Ryotsu goes to the world of episode 1 with a time machine and gets shot at repeatedly by his past self.
“Don’t you think you were more hot-blooded in the past?!” said the one who was startled.

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:19

At one point, it wasn’t Director Ohara, but rather the Deputy Director who became my boss, and he was so indecisive that Ryotsu ended up working a lot.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:23

>>28It’s more like a brief period or just one episode, right?

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:20

For some reason, as the series approached its conclusion, Terai’s status declined while Hojo, who had changed names, made a comeback from being a one-off guest character…
It felt like they took Honda’s position away.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:22Yeahx1

>>30It seems that Terai was already not playing a main role in anime by the time he started doing it.

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:21

The only one who has been there from the beginning to the end, aside from the members of the police box, is Honda, right?

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:21

There are probably people who became strange since DokiMemo.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:21

The volumes in the 70s are not that interesting, but the detail in the background is amazing.

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:21

It’s not just them, but new characters that the author is fond of tend to stick around for a while.
I think it must be tough for those who didn’t get along from the first appearance.
It would be better if there was a way to create more semi-regular appearances.

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:22

The star escaped and disappeared, huh?

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:23

>>36He’s a pathetic man who only occasionally shows up to make bald jokes.
What kind of gun do you have?

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:28Yeahx2

>>36It’s remembered enough that there’s a game about blowing off this guy’s wig at the Kochikame Museum.
Also, there’s a drumming rhythm game in which the monk is unstoppable in the main story.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:51Yeahx1

>>56Is that there… I want to do it.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:23Yeahx3

No matter how many characters are added, it’s overwhelmingly easier to create stories with the strange old man.
Professor Ezaki, the Honda-like father, and Colonel Bakuryu, have proven it.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:26

>>39Dolphins that were overworked in anime, along with moonlight and swim trunks, have also been added.

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:27

>>47These guys are so funny just by showing up that it’s unfair, and Ryotsu has to play the straight man.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:29

>>47Due to the moonlight and dolphins, the perverted route has become established.
I can’t forgive that Tiger and Mustang have become outcasts.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:23Yeahx1

I’m not good at having new characters take on roles that could have been done by existing characters by getting rid of the existing ones.
Specifically, trivia.

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:25

Actually, the land behind and beside the police box is regularly renovated.
It can turn into a pool or a convenience store…

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:25Yeahx1

It’s understandable that Nakagawa is always a regular because he’s just too convenient.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:25

The electrode father and son have become semi-regulars as handy technicians.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:25

It’s similar to Crayon Shin-chan, but as time goes on, new characters tend to become somewhat specialized in one skill, which is hard to describe.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:37Yeahx1

>>45I haven’t read it since the part where the kendo guy, or rather the brother, appeared.
It seems that Matsuzure-so was also an effort to introduce new content or ideas.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:25Yeahx1

When you watch it through things like anime or selected masterpieces, it gives off the usual “Kochikame” vibe with all sorts of variety.
When reading in order through the paperback, you can see that there is quite a change in the style.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:26

Terai and Hojou, who were renamed in a very rough manner.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:26Yeahx1

During the time of the Robot Police Station, other stories were more interesting.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:26

I might not have liked the sushi restaurant because the regulars’ appearances reduced, and the sushi place would become their base over there.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:26

The Special Investigations Unit was really used a lot in anime, but that’s probably because it’s anime…

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:27Yeahx2

There are various discussions about the name change, but the chief has already changed it a long time ago.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:27

Convenient for doing something at the sea, a two-pole setup.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:30

>>53Instead, the baseball idiot setting has disappeared.

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:27

Terai had value just by being in the property search series alone…

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:28

But I haven’t seen many people who really dislike thread images.
So there is a difference in temperature compared to the story.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:30Yeahx3

>>57Get rid of it, erase it, destroy it.
I’ve never seen a person like that temperature.
Sushi and Osaka were full of people with that kind of warmth.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:30

There was an episode where a bunch of characters who disappeared without any explanation suddenly appeared, even though it was a standard episode.
It seems like an episode where we play a real life game of Sugoroku using the Yamanote Line.

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:31

When the special detective with shogi and cosplay came out, I thought, “What the hell is this guy doing?” but it seems like most detectives are into cosplay…

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:32

The strong character of the master of the houseboat who has adapted wildly to Ryotsu Nitteku Volvo Sakon-ji.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:32Yeahx1

It’s not particularly interesting, but it doesn’t really get in the way either; that’s the impression I have of the Robot Police Station.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:32Yeahx1

The one that was like the original GI Joe was the most interesting.
I’m feeling good today, lung cancer from smoking!

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:32

Looking back now, it was like a detective in a Sailor Moon costume.
It’s nothing but an extreme bad vibe, yet it was accepted, right?

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:33

>>67That’s the worst, saying “Now it’s Utena because it got accepted!”

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:34

>>69I didn’t understand the Utena references at the time, but after I grasped them and read it again…
It was no good to be on the car’s hood.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:33Yeahx2

Sometimes it’s nice to change the flavor, but if the flavor change continues, it actually becomes hard to handle.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:34

A long time ago, while reading a random story, I ended up with the title “If I run out of ideas, I’ll just add a new character!”
I have a memory of being taught that gag manga is just like that.

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:34

Isn’t it just that it was considered unpopular and removed because the story didn’t progress much?
I used to see Honda-la Ojisan and Colonel Bakuryu quite often, but before I knew it, I stopped seeing them.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35Yeahx1

If it’s something like Sailor Moon, that’s one thing, but when it comes to Space Dancing Detective, it’s completely just the author’s hobby.

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35

Multiple emails come in asking to destroy the robot police station → In an episode based on that, I say, “I’ll destroy it if I get 50 complaints” → Less than a month later, almost 150 complaints arrive.

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35Yeahx2

>>76It’s a letter.
It was a time before emails…

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:37Yeahx2

>>81There were readers who sent in postcards saying they wanted it shut down simply because “it’s interesting.”

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35Yeahx1

The Kimen Group was strong because they brought in various parodies from within Shueisha.

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:37Yeahx1

>>77It’s too much of a traditional art for Shueisha’s gag manga.

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35

Since it’s a follow-up, it can be accepted as one of the many episodes.
If I had read Jump in real time back then, I can understand why there would be resistance.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:35Yeahx2

I think Maria wasn’t using it much anymore in the sense that it was already used up, and now I wonder if that was the reason she became a woman.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:36

It was quite a while after that Maria completely became a woman, right?

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:38Yeahx2

There were multiple complaints about the disappearance of the downtown atmosphere, and while some say, “It wasn’t really there to begin with,” I think there was still quite a bit of that ambiance around the time of volumes 50 to 60.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:38Yeahx1

Personally, I started to wonder a bit around the time the woman from kyudo appeared.
I think there might have been people wondering about the electrode parents and children.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:39

When did Totsuka disappear?

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:40

>>90It’s around the 70th volume, I guess.
That said, it’s come back, so it hasn’t disappeared.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:40

I think I quite like Professor Ezaki since I only see him occasionally.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:41

>>91I guess whether or not someone watches anime can change their impression.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:40

Totsuka wrote that it overlaps with Ryotsu.
Even after a long time, there was nothing to talk about.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:41

Honestly, I thought it was just a one-off joke, but it kept going, and even ended up being treated as semi-regulars for a while, so they appeared in episodes where they weren’t the main focus, which felt really out of place…

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:44Yeahx1

The swimsuit detective that appears every time we do a one-hour special is the problem.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:44

I think Totsuka was quite a unique character in the role of a tsukkomi, able to occasionally join Ryotsu in some reckless fun.
The position of being dragged into Ryotsu’s misdeeds has increasingly fallen on Honda, but more than anything, it feels like Honda is just getting caught up in it.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:44

Those who only watch the Kochikame anime may not know that Terai became Maruichi Young Building.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:44Yeahx1

It’s amazing how Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo casually discusses meta circumstances within the story.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:45Yeahx1

Modifying the model version 002 and studying circuit design to improve the electronic circuit design of version 003.
Learning from these guys to hack the payroll system and mastering microcontrollers is the first step to the high-tech image of Ryotsu, so it’s super important—more important than being able to make sushi.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:48Yeahx1

When I see the early version of Ryo-san, I’m really surprised at how he’s just an incredibly ordinary good-for-nothing policeman.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:15

>>101The versatile sports ability is an element that was added later.
In the beginning, I didn’t know anything about baseball at all.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:49

I don’t really know the rules of baseball.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:56

It was probably a good idea to bring back the original character Komachi and another character from the anime.

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:56Yeahx2

This guy was convenient for expanding the conversation, but…
The one that catches fire when you spill gasoline was not interesting.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:59

>>105When they get angry, they’re an uncontrollable character, Osugi.

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:58Yeahx1

The character in the thread is one of them, but there seem to be at least ten characters in the position behind Ryotsu saying “Ehh!” and such.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)12:59Yeahx1

When the pattern of overusing a semi-regular character occurs, they will disappear if Akimoto or the readers get bored.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:00

The original anime police officer is because Saotome and others don’t appear…

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:01

This guy is a Terai variant, and the intensity of anger is a Totsuka variant.
It has only changed in appearance and there is nothing new about it.

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:09Yeahx1

>>110Speaking of which, that’s true…

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:03

I don’t know when the disappointing character came out.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:08Yeahx1

>>111The 40th volume is where the legal provisions make their appearance.
Renaming is Volume 170.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:11

I feel that after the middle term, Volvo and Sakoji were the convenient options.

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:21Yeahx1

>>114There was a time when I was always there during the story unfolding outside the police box.
Sometimes they are in the police box.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:11

I didn’t particularly dislike it, and I felt that the mecha settings of Dametaro were used quite conveniently.
For some reason, there were many passionate anti-fans in a time without the internet, and it got erased…

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:12

It’s usually fine to have someone like Honda as the surprising sidekick.

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:12Yeahx1

In the end, Totsuka suddenly has many nostalgic characters appear, bringing back the atmosphere of the early days.
They are fortunate because they have beautifully excelled in the role of a hook.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:14

I believe the ending of the final chapter of KochiKame in Jump was about Hoshinodata.

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:16

I thought it was a character that appeared out of nowhere, but unfortunately, it turns out it existed even before I was born…

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:16Yeahx1

I feel like the current character of Ryo-san was solidified around volumes 80 to 90.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:17Yeahx1

>>121Before I knew it, I had become a character with otaku hobbies.

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:17Yeahx1

In the early days, if I had to choose my words carefully, I’d say that Ryo-san was just a complete lunatic…

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:23Yeahx1

>>123It’s really terrible to create a commotion just to force the boyfriend of a cute girl at a restaurant to get arrested so you can hit on her.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:19Yeahx1

“Towards the end, they released a weak version of the final boss that resembled a Volvo.”
It’s like taking Honda and Hojo (what a pity), adding them together, dividing by three, and then sprinkling a bit of Itai-ke’s character design to make their personality worse, producing some trivia.
Mr. Akimoto has a tendency to regularly want to introduce sub-characters that are like “Isn’t that fine as an existing character?”
At its worst, the sub-character gets overwritten, and the old character is sent to a monkey space.

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:22

It feels like Hojou suddenly reappeared after disappearing right away.

127: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:22Yeahx1

Volvo and Sakonji can be used not only for everyday gags but also in serious situations and events, which is a big advantage.

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:23

I dislike Sakonji because it’s sometimes creepy to the point that I can’t laugh.

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:24

There was a child written for Vocaloid topics, right?

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:26Yeahx1

>>130I love Poco-chan, she’s so cute.

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:24

The role of Dame Taro could have easily been fulfilled by Hojo, who appeared about 10 volumes earlier than that…

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:25

Other than Dame Taro and Flame’s aide, the robot cops are not impressive.

136: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:28

>>132Did I…??

140: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:29

>>136I was there, but I ended up being just a one-hit wonder.
So far, they have made a reappearance when the robot police station was established.

141: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:29Yeahx1

>>136A more useless robot that came out before Dametarou and the others.
There’s a special detective named Clara who shows her panties in a very naughty way.

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:27

A robot with a cheat that guarantees accurate horse racing predictions.

135: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:27Yeahx1

I tend to take on the role of explaining the relatively new otaku culture to Ryou-san.
Honda is increasingly becoming a diverse otaku…

137: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:28

It was easy to use, like Koro-sama.

138: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:28Yeahx1

Ditto Pikachu is obviously a character meant for one-off jokes.
The teacher liked the design, so the background police officer appears multiple times within the department.

139: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/22(木)13:29

>>138Ah, that plastic surgery…

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