
1: Anonymous 2025/04/23 (Wed) 21:56:42.06 ID:ewpNqphT0 BE:839150984-2BP(1000) ■ I want to see more gritty robot anime. Something like Ideon, Dougram, Dunbine, or Armored Trooper VOTOMS. I’m done with the ones where pretty boys and girls are just flirting in cute art styles. I want something where robots fight endlessly with character designs from someone like Tomokazu Tokoro. I want works that smell of blood and oil. https://anond.hatelabo.jp/20250422155049
This has been said for decades, but no matter how much we try, it just doesn’t sell…
I quite liked Obsolete.
I don’t know if I’ll go all the way to the robot.
If we don’t feature beautiful men and women, not just robots, young people won’t watch anime…
I was surprised to realize that it was yesterday when I wondered when the comment was made.
I think my brain has been stopped for about 20 years.
>>4
I thought it was from about 20 years ago because of the mentioned lineup and the moe art.
>>4
It’s been a mistake for 40 years.
A statement from April 23, 2025… this is…
Even if a style like this that I had been hoping for finally starts, I’ll just say this and that and end up not watching it anyway.
>>7
The fact that OBSOLETE is not included among the featured works confirms it.
>>7
This thread is just filled with all sorts of nonsense.
You’re not at the age to be excited about robots anymore, are you…?
It’s an amazing antique.
I was researching what recent robot anime there are, and I found out that a new Patlabor will be released next year.
I laughed.
Could it be that the works mentioned as examples also feature good-looking men and women by the standards of that time…?
>>12
I definitely think that’s the case with Dunbine and the like.
It seems that Bottoms is also a work that has a boy-meets-girl aspect.
>>13
Well, I do think it’s amazing that the heroine was bald when they first met.
It seems faster to tidy up my anime goods and search for a new hobby.
It’s all someone who doesn’t know anything.
Ideon also has good-looking men and women just flirting all the time.
The robot anime itself…
Robot anime, especially Gundam, seems to be doing well, doesn’t it?
I might not be able to keep up anymore because I’m old.
>>19
Gundam is currently airing, so it’s full of energy!
>>20
You’re saying that, aren’t you?
>>26
It’s true.
I’m really sorry about this.
Old man! You have to draw it yourself!
It would be nice if they would stop the unreal fantasy of having cool robot anime or older men being active.
Even if such an anime actually exists, I would make excuses not to watch it.
Aren’t there a lot of pretty boys and girls in Dunbine…?
There are already quite a few robot anime aimed at middle-aged men, after all…
Was Z Gundam interesting with scenes where robots appear like they have a quota, lazily firing beams and resulting in a draw?
Do you really think there are no beautiful girl illustrations in lake and river paintings?
I think it’s just a rough summary of the scene being evaluated.
Say it after you’ve seen everything.
What about Zabungle?
Are you looking for something like a robot version of the navy blue fleet?
I feel like there was someone who put a moe anime-like summary on Armored Trooper VOTOMS.
Honestly, I didn’t think that hard-core robot games like AC and DXM would make a comeback.
>>35
I don’t know about Demon, but I don’t like that kind of overly stylish “hardcore” presentation in AC.
>>41
See, I told you so.
Right now, the momentum of idol anime and moe genres seems to be weakening, and it feels like there’s a good tailwind for robots.
>>36
It seems that it’s just that since humans are the ones riding the robots, we can get moe elements in robot anime.
When I actually saw it, the Bottoms were easier to watch than I thought.
The image of the protagonist was quite different from what I expected before seeing it.
In the main story of Armored Trooper VOTOMS, the protagonist’s position and uniqueness were so outlandish that it was completely different from what I had imagined…
Isn’t it kind of pathetic for grown men to fight in robots? This reminds me of a tweet from Gato.
Even going back to Mazinger, robots and beautiful girls are inseparable as a theme.
>>40
Well, if we interpret it positively, it doesn’t mean they’re saying not to feature beautiful girls.
I think this response is based on an understanding of that.
>>40
It is inseparable from beautiful boys.
If you put too much emphasis on the beautiful girl, it gives the impression that it doesn’t sell well.
>>43
If the female protagonist of “The Witch from Mercury” sells 10 billion copies and is still considered underperforming, then according to this unbeatable logic, nothing will sell well.
>>49
I hate to say it, but it only sold because it’s Gundam, right?
>>56
On the contrary, what kind of answer would satisfy you?
>>56
If Gundam could sell on its own, I don’t think AGE and G-Reco would have ended up in such a tragic state.
Robot anime is not popular right now.
An old man looks better when he carries firearms himself…
Even if you’re not interested in mechs, you still buy plastic models and figures of your favorite character’s beloved machine.
If it’s a type of weapon that gets into battle, it doesn’t have to be a robot for me.
>>50
That said, when it comes to tanks and fighter jets, the way they are presented…
It’s also a deliberately tough style like in Botoms, based on the values of that time.
It’s not bitter.
Even if serious sci-fi is not talked about, there’s no way a serious robot would be talked about either…
In the first place, will the proposal not get approved?
I personally didn’t watch Gundam SEED because of the character designs, but after watching the movie, I found that I could overlook their appearance and it was interesting.
It’s obvious, but it’s about the substance rather than the visuals.
If it weren’t for the design of the heroine in “Expelled from Paradise,” it could perfectly meet the expectations of the thread.
If you don’t prefer beautiful men and women, then it can’t be helped.
If you prefer robots fighting endlessly, isn’t there no need to criticize the character design?
You’re grown up and talking about robots, but people who like robots are usually middle-aged men, right?
“Moé has become a splendid obsolete term…”
>>59
Even here, the ones who use it have perished.
Times are changing, aren’t they?
Whenever this kind of topic comes up, I think it’s fine to just watch old anime.
It’s sufficiently satisfying content.
>>60
You can watch it on the streaming service as much as you want now.
Honestly, even if they say that using Gundam as an example, a mecha anime can sell with a beautiful girl as the protagonist, I still don’t feel convinced.
Gundam is no longer just a single brand or category.
>>62
However, it’s a fact that the TV series was dead until we got to Mercury.
>>68
The subject is too big.
First of all, mentioning Ideon and saying it’s subtle at that point is untrustworthy.
The Spriggan was well-made in SF, but it didn’t become a topic of much discussion.
There are quite a few here and there, but I think people definitely won’t mention them as examples, so they probably don’t have any interest in looking.
In short, do you just want to believe that everything outside of your preferences is on a downhill slope?
There were many anime featuring robots that prominently showcased beautiful girls about ten years ago, but I remember they didn’t really catch on.
>>69
It’s about robots themselves…
>>73
That’s why “Mercury” focused on the relationships between women, making the robot a supporting character, and it became popular.
In the first place, the work in the thread image doesn’t have no women at all…
>>74
At least Ideon and Dunbine also feature beautiful girl characters.
I want to point out that there’s a trend where people say that SEED DESTINY was a masterpiece just because the movie was interesting.
That’s crap.
>>75
Many spirits that have passed away have found peace because SEED Freedom is interesting.
You don’t have the courage to look back, do you?
>>97
First of all, it’s tough to watch 4-cour anime, even if it’s interesting, not limited to robot anime.
Bravern!
>>76
I think they hate metafictional elements in past works even more.
Build Fighters was really interesting, wasn’t it?
>>77
I feel like we haven’t been able to provide the same level of interesting content as the first generation.
It’s just that it’s not like that now; it’s just that you’ve forgotten that it was in the style of beautiful men and women paintings back then.
>>78
Well, in short, it seems like they want the main characters to be robots.
In that sense, I think the current work is pretty much the same if it’s a robot anime, but I guess you wouldn’t know that.
I guess they aren’t from the generation of Ideon or Votoms.
Looking back at past works in this area as a counter to the anime that was popular during my youth, I can’t help but think that things were indeed cooler and better back then!
It feels like I’ve been dragging that sensation along with me.
There are unusually many SF works this season.
It’s just that I want to say “Things were better back then.”
Caught up in beautiful memories of the past.
You did well with Iron-Blooded.
It’s the usual person who dislikes robot anime.
I found Gundam Seed and similar series difficult to enjoy because the characters’ faces were too reptilian for my taste.
If you’re coming up with this impression after watching Dougram, then you’re watching something different from what I am.
Gundam is also at fault, but both the viewership ratings and disc sales were better for Iron-Blooded Orphans among all series.
There are various indicators everywhere, so I don’t intend to rank them, but saying it was dead is hard to accept.
In episode 1, the cool protagonist rides a military-style mech, Burn Braver!
I thought it was something else, but it’s about sales again…
In a robot anime, no matter how attractive the main characters are, if the story is interesting, they’ll become secondary, almost like just being recognized as the primary pilot number one.
It’s rare for the story to develop mainly around the character.
Release a gritty robot anime featuring older male characters that sells as well as Gundam!
If that’s the case, it’s too much of an unreasonable demand.
An anime where robots only appear at the beginning and the end.
Maybe it exists from the OVA era.
>>96
God Raideen gives the impression of a later appearance, but it actually has quite a few episodes…
I wish they would focus more on the relationships with cute characters, but since they also have to include robots, it’s often a mix that doesn’t quite land in robot anime…
OO sold well, right?
How about something like FLAG?
Zeke Axa’s MS is so uncool…
>>102
That’s the current Gundam, and when I say it’s cool, this is what I mean.
The sensibility of those who feel that it’s uncool is outdated.
I feel that pressure.
>>108
Is it something like contemporary art?
In a robot anime, you have to explain the worldview no matter what, and if it’s one season long, there just isn’t enough time…
>>104
With a standalone movie, an hour and a half is enough to develop the subject.
Young otaku are only interested in light novels, social games, and anime…
There are somewhat serious works, but that character design is the hardest to accept.
I want a 2-cour anime about robots that involves war and such.
If you just want to see it and it’s not about sales, then I guess that’s fine.
I want to watch the GS Mikami anime too.
Cute girls appearing in robot anime are great, aren’t they?
Recently, I like Battery Girl.
Mr. Okawa was actually a top runner in beautiful design at that time.
But you were criticizing Zeno-Genesis, weren’t you?
I understand that feeling of wanting to create “for me” because there is an overflow of “not for me.”
I want you to be aware that, after all, it is merely a personal man’s obsessive feeling that cannot be tied to a big business.
If you’re looking for past works themselves, there’s no need to make new requests… Let’s take a look back; surprisingly, they’re actually quite good even now.
>>115
The people who express opinions like this wouldn’t even notice it if it were actually made, so it’s not even worth it.
I remember thinking that Gurren Lagann was a risqué anime when I watched it as a young person, feeling excited. Sure, there were some slightly risqué scenes, but it turned out to be nothing like that at all, and I was disappointed.
>>116
It’s good that it was sexy even though it wasn’t at all like that.
If you think it’s uncool, then it’s fine to think it’s uncool, right?
Don’t worry about modern values like that, just enjoy watching fiction.
If you were to create a serious piece now, I feel like it probably wouldn’t include humanoid robots…
“Watch Gasaraki!”
I think it would be good to make it.
You can just gather 300 million by yourself.
It’s questionable whether they even watch these anime in the first place…
Isn’t it a bit cool just by being a humanoid robot…?
I feel like I understood something after watching Godzilla SP!
Shut up.
If you keep complaining, I’ll show you Gene Shaft.
I like the shape of the Zikax, but I don’t like the color because it’s too gaudy.
Is ACⅥ hardcore, I wonder!?
>>129
For things that can be interpreted differently by such people, it’s better to say whether you think of yourself as hardcore or not.
If it’s a Korok drop, the character design by Genbun is cool.
Fiana is a beautiful girl too! She was flirting with Kiriko!
>>131
The main story is indeed a love story between beautiful men and women.
Of course, it’s not just that.
If you don’t see Ziegax as a Gundam, it has a stylish proportion that might be pleasing.
Although it seems too out of place when viewed as a mechanical design in the series that has been well-received for its heroic aesthetics,
>>132
No… I think it’s really heroic…
If you don’t have enough confidence that your own impressions can influence sales that much, then maybe you should just look at the licensed artwork of big-number works like Shin Eva or SEEDFREEDOM and live with a smile instead of actually engaging with the main story.
>>134
I think that’s fine.
In the TV broadcast of ‘BOTOM’S’, there are quite a few comedic aspects, don’t you think?
Looking at the Super Robot Wars participating works, I can’t help but feel that there are definitely not enough recent hit titles.
>>138
That’s already too long a span, so it’s not something that can be made by riding the current trends.
To be honest, don’t you think the designs of the recent Gundam main mobile suits have been controversial?
I think I like it, but I also feel like it has a unique design almost every time.
>>140
I think there will be complaints about not being able to break away from existing designs, even if it resembles past works.
>>144
Rather, I want them to create refined MS like Z or F91 if they can.
>>140
From someone who doesn’t know much about Gundam, I can’t really tell the difference in designs…
I can tell that the shapes are different, but since the horns, eyes, and colors are basically similar, I think it looks like a Gundam.
Personally, I think the MS of Sieg Ax is too flashy.
Sometimes there are people who misunderstand.
Even characters from old anime just look outdated in terms of visuals.
She was a beautiful woman for her time.
>>142
In other words, there aren’t many protagonists in creations who aren’t beautiful or stunning.
>>150
Of course, being good-looking is more popular.
Actually, it’s more troublesome to draw non-beautiful characters.
Before you open your mouth, say your favorite robot anime.
The story begins after that.
I like amdrivers…
>>147
Majepuri!! Please release the final chapter!
>>147
Escaflowne
I think Armored Core 6 is a stylish sci-fi romantic comedy.
But I think Macross and Armored Trooper VOTOMS are also in the same category.
It’s just a matter of different nuances in direction.
At that time, everyone was infatuated with Sheila!
>>152
What about Ele?
It’s not exactly recent, but the Aerial modification has returned to the basic version… I thought it was unusual.
I was surprised to see a thread saying that the design of the species still works.
It’s plenty old-fashioned, isn’t it…?
I want you to really try moving the BlenPowered.
The works I’m showcasing and the works I want to see don’t quite match up, so I think it’s probably a young person I haven’t seen before.
>>159
It feels like I’m just raising it based on hearsay.
It’s easy to guess that the person in the thread is the type who doesn’t like themselves for not being able to engage in the topic of Zieg Axes.
I want to move on from the idea that robots with long limbs and tall heights are cool.
>>161
There’s a new Wataru release!
>>161
Saying that while Wataru is going on.
>>161
The new Wataru is interesting and cool!
>>161
The Battery Girl of the Reversed World is good.
>>161
It’s trying to go against the trend, resulting in a pile of dead bodies.
Is it okay to say 20 years ago? Aren’t you more like a middle-aged otaku from about 40 years ago?
>>162
I probably don’t understand because I’m not middle-aged yet.
At that time, otaku were excited about the beautiful girl characters in the threads…
I wonder if there were really that many images of beautiful men and women in moe style flirting with each other… is the question posed by the thread image.
Aren’t you not even watching robot anime in the first place?
In Danballin, both the enemies and allies are all beautiful, and there are even fairies!
Wataru has somehow become more aimed at children…
>>172
It was from the very beginning!!!
>>172
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>>172
I won’t get involved.
>>172
Serious statement?
>>172
I haven’t seen Wataru, but weren’t the older ones not aimed at children?
>>181
The radio drama Wataru 3 and 4 were probably for adults…
It’s not an anime.
>>172
It’s better to declare early on that this is a prank.
For the time being, I think there’s a possibility that the person speaking in the thread image is a minor.
>>174
Ah, it might be more likely that it’s the age when you’re not really an otaku but want to say things that sound like it after nibbling on various interests.
This is just because I’ve become an old man and can no longer empathize with young guys.
It’s impossible to have a romantic comedy without a human appearing even for a moment.
>>180
Isn’t there a rom-com between robots yet?
Japan has no choice but to create an anime for MechWarrior.
Let’s make it.
It’s a nutrient that you want to consume regularly.
It’s like salt-containing soil for deer.
G-Reco was interesting…
>>184
If many people thought so, it would have been a hit…
>>184
Honestly, I think it’s completely natural to have the impression of “I don’t really understand that!” after watching it!
>>193
I was surprised because it became easier to understand in the movie version.
Well, was it interesting? I’m not sure, but I’ve settled on a position where I don’t dislike it.
>>184
But the demand for the thread image is not being met at all.
Make it a robot that looks like a beautiful girl.
To me, ko-dogiasu is a cool anime, but I wonder if it depends on the person.
Since I’m such a malicious person, when I see something like the picture in the thread…
Aha, are you hoping to sway public opinion and companies with this, make them actually create something like that, and then laugh at their massive business failure?
Ramune was erotic, wasn’t it?
I really like it, you know… that’s the strong feeling I get from G-Reco.
I feel like there are many such elements in robot anime, or rather, the genre of robot anime itself tends to have those kinds of aspects.
>>199
This is really true.
Originally a genre that tends to choose its customers quite a bit.
However, there is a complicated fact that for a time, it became a major phenomenon.
Give it to me even in Bravern!
In about 40 years, there’s a possibility that Bravern will become a serious work…?
I like VVVV.
I only know Dunbine, but I think it’s unrealistic to have a robot that swings a sword and has an aura, with a fairy girl positioned next to it, and then brings out Sheila without any blood or oil.
The smell of blood and oil is difficult in visual works.
In other words, is there a robot anime that smells of blood and oil that doesn’t exist?
I’m not interested in dramas, so I’m not really a fan of bald people, and the idea of throwing in BoTS and Dougram feels exactly like a young person trying to reach for something beyond their grasp.
I think G-Reco is a good work as an animation.
I was impressed by the meticulous attention to detail in the art.