>>1

There are definitely manga where the mob character is completely different in style, as if they’re accepting that fact.

Stories from the very early days of Maruko.

There was a time when characters from popular trends like Kochikame were drawn as is, just as background characters.

Well, that’s because the teacher draws the main picture first, and then the assistants draw.

Now you can do it digitally in parallel.

Assistants really do have things like this.

There is a lot of power harassment.

>>9

I visited several sites, and it was interesting that sometimes the assistant had a higher position than the teacher.

>>33

It seems likely that an experienced pro assistant would be in charge.

“The Glass Mask has Maya and Ayumi carrying all the power, so it’s just barely good.”

I don’t really know if it’s truly a Glass Mask or not.

Popular works might be ruthlessly criticized forever if they are poorly executed…

The tough mob is called the manemob, but Kochikame resembles a mannequin more.

Mita Norifusa’s manga is so clearly recognized at a glance because the assistants are more skilled at drawing.

The author probably knows that best, but I think it’s admirable that they still draw the main characters themselves.

>>17

There are works that haven’t had any drawing done at all.

Isn’t this a somewhat important panel…?

The mobs around the time of the Kinnikuman tag arc are so cute, right?

Did “Glass Mask” have intense scenes from the very beginning?

I wonder if it will be fixed in the paperback edition.

Even in modern manga, there are times when the touch of the mob characters is clearly different, isn’t there?

It’s fine since it’s not something to worry about because I’m just a mob.

>>23

(A character clearly by Oda mixed in with the mob from Rurouni Kenshin)

The assistants of Gintama were better than Sorachi, and the mob always seemed out of place.

I actually like watching mobs a lot.

Even if someone else writes it and it feels strange, as long as it’s cute, that’s fine.

The characters in the early “Hajime no Ippo” had such different art styles that it ironically gave them charm.

Isn’t it the mannequin mob from KochiKame?

I remember that it was really criticized.

>>29

Since that guy became in charge of the mob, there have been more moe-themed jokes, regardless of that fact.

Simply put, that person’s drawing is grotesque and unsettling because, as has been mocked, it appears to have neither movement nor emotion.

>>29

It may be unavoidable that the person lacks skills.

I can’t understand why Akimoto Yoshiharu thought that was acceptable.

>>56

Considering the time it came out, I think I was already tired.

>>56

Wasn’t it fast?

Amazing

>>93

Oh-oh

>>56

I found out from the internet that it was unpopular… so I think ordinary people don’t really care much about it anyway?

>>101

Well, since ordinary people are expressing such opinions on the internet, it means there are those who care about it.

>>103

Is it normal for people to express their opinions online?

>>109

Well, saying that everyone who expresses opinions online is not normal is something too.

This is the fourth panel of this.

I definitely recognize this page.

So it was a person of the reed.

I saw a background character with the same art style as Nube’s in a Gakken manga.

It seems like juggling multiple jobs is tough…

Last month, I ended up handing in a terrible drawing that left me with regrets, just like the one in the thread.

It’s about to be released to the world soon.

If you let the troublesome type of professional use AI, I think it would just lead to an infinite gacha and a hell of revisions.

If you want to have AI generate illustrations tailored to the artist until the drawing stage

The burden on the writer is too great because they need to draw a large number of pictures to make a living…

>>43

If it’s just the artwork, you can feed it 50 pieces.

With those 50 images, we can generate tens of thousands, and then select the images that are not broken from those to further feed them.

>>46

You can have the assistant do the selection by feeding it past manga.

But once I’m done eating, I won’t need my legs anymore…

>>50

I think it will just be that the assistant will handle the adjustment of output and output items.

I want to leave everything other than drawing the main character to someone else, which is why I’m hiring an assistant.

Even if we go with that method, we still have to let the assistant do it…

First of all, there’s no time for a serialized manga artist to leisurely sort through AI.

In Kenshin, there are clearly mob characters drawn by Oda-kun, aren’t there?

In Yuichi Hasegawa’s manga, even the background characters are well-designed.

>>54

It’s just that ASHI uses AI, right?

First, we need to bring in someone who is either familiar with or well-versed in generative AI, so I think the cost there is challenging right now.

In the first place, it’s really difficult to just casually present something that can still be used as it is, even for just one illustration of a character.

Even when it comes to Ash’s work, there are really trivial tasks that are just at the assistance level, all the way up to quite advanced requests like “Please add a nice background with perspective that fits this character illustration and situation.”

The latter is still impossible for AI.

I would like AI to quickly handle simple tasks like adding tone as specified.

>>61

That’s more of a field to expect from RPA rather than AI, but it seems that even that is currently limited to just repetitive playback.

The different art style of the background characters in Yu Yu Hakusho really caught my attention while reading.

There were often background characters drawn by Yoshihiro Kuroiwa in Wingman.

There are works that become terrible as soon as super assistants or competent editors leave.

Things like mobs and backgrounds don’t require that much effort, do they?

No one is going to dig into that.

>>66

Isn’t it stupid how people are bashing the mob in KochiKame?

Let’s copy with the same level of detachment as Mangatarou-sensei.

In 10 minutes, I would probably be at the point of getting the rough draft started…

Even the assistants at the manga shop are so high-spec…

I want enough time to fill in the draft.

I’m suddenly being held with a pen.

It must have been really close.

If the scenario pushes in a monthly production…

I felt a bit sad that the manga by Kei Winter that I bought after a long time was heavily using photo editing for the backgrounds, but I guess it can’t be helped in this day and age.

>>72

To be frank, it helps save on animation costs, and since no one pays attention to the background, it can’t be helped.

In the case of Chibi Maruko-chan, there were often instances where the mobs drawn by the assistant seemed to be better.

It was strange when I was a kid that the art style in Doraemon clearly changes from the middle.

It was a picture of reeds.

The regularly inserted Komi-san costume episodes really just look like a lazy effort.

The comic version of the silly FPS player that was updated yesterday.

Even if you are using a PC for drawing, the amount of posts is crazy, and every time I read it, I wonder what kind of workload you have, which makes me feel strange.

Since digital can be revised, it has probably improved quite a bit.

I wonder if it was around 2000 when I started being able to use digital technology.

After all, the right approach is to create a lot of mob and background materials and then cut and paste them as needed.

>>81

I need to refer to Tough…

>>81

This also requires a puzzle-like way of thinking, so it’s tough in a different sense.

The editor has been angry this whole time at this site.

“The Glass Mask has a style that has broken down in a good way, so it hasn’t bothered me much.”

>>84

I like the feeling that the style has a coexistence of both old-fashioned and new elements, similar to two princesses.

I like Ayumi from recent years too.

Kazuhirō Fujita mentioned at the end that it’s a mystery why this illustration looks like all of these assistants.

>>88

I feel like they might think that because it’s not a work made solely by themselves, the assistants should be equally evaluated.

It’s the merit of a broken painting style.

I’m reading “Minami no Teiou” partly for the image illustrations drawn by the incredible artist.

There are many idiots who make a fuss just because I’m using AI now.

Those who can actually use their heads are just keeping quiet about how they use them in practice.

>>91

That’s just putting on a victim’s face on its own.

Kengan isn’t being talked about or anything.

JoJo has assistants, but it gives the impression that the art style is unified, including the mob characters.

Fujita’s policy is to eventually make all the assistants stand on their own as manga artists…

Well, it’s become easier now that we can use AI.

The fact that there are still people doing it alone even now shows that it’s off the mark.

The background character of Oda-sensei in Rurouni Kenshin has such a distinctive art style that you can recognize it at a glance, which is terrible.

The people in Kengan Ashura were efficiently using AI.

Honestly, I think it’s good for people who already have skills to use it for time-saving purposes…

I feel a bit uneasy about using AI for character design and such.

Whenever the topic of AI comes up, the conversation quickly turns to KenGan Ashura.

It’s easy to understand that there’s only that one example.

It’s one thing if it’s so bad that I can’t follow the conversation, but I just want to quickly read the next story.

The mannequin mob referred to the ones in Kochikame, right?