Did this guy do the colony drop? Or was it Gihren?

For now, the image of the grandfather serves as a symbol.

>>10

Yeah… even though it looks so bad.

>>10

Zimba, who was a political rival on Origin, had been whispering that to the Daikun brothers.

Casval himself was annoyed, but he thought it would be different.

>>10

So what did this person do…?

>>22

Colony drop

>>24

It’s really bad…

>>22

Purge of the Dykun faction and the monarchy

The latter was intended by the person as an excuse until the realization of the ideals of Zeon.

>>22

Originally a politician close to ZION, he was designated as his successor at the time of ZION’s death.

I can’t remember what I was doing in the main story.

>>5

I dropped my cane.

>>5

When I went to negotiate for peace, I was shot from behind by my son.

It should be something like “It was lucky that they happened to die in Origin.”

Isn’t Face the one that looks least like Dozle?

What was this person really doing?

The old man was really depressed after Garma died.

At least in the end, it was better that we properly negotiated peace with General Revil and tried to stop the war.

I certainly don’t know what I’m doing.

I can’t help but dislike Degwin around the time Garma died.

>>17

He only pretends to be a good father on the surface, but I think he’s a terrible person who only thinks about himself.

I want to hold a family funeral for the commander of the Earth invasion army! That’s just ridiculous…

Of course, Gihren, who doted on Garma, and Kisyiria would want a family funeral, right?!

Didn’t Tomino definitively say “assassination” once?

It says “secret meeting,” but that’s just knowledge from the internet.

“It’s not like any of the children.”

In the anime’s setting, the cause of Zeon Daikun’s death remains unknown.

I had been warning Giran all along, so it’s not like I really wanted to go to war that much.

Even if the person had no ill intentions, it cannot be denied that they surrounded important positions with relatives of bad people.

A dictatorship is perfect for realizing ideals in a short period, but it relies entirely on the reason of the dictator.

Even if the dictator himself is decent, it doesn’t mean that the successor will be, and it’s not guaranteed that the transition to a democratic system will go smoothly…

>>30

Well then, is democracy okay?

>>31

Federal Congress Corruption!

From Gihren’s perspective, it just looks like he’s regretting it now that his beloved son is dead, and I can somewhat understand that irritating feeling.

It’s hard to understand how it could be blasted away together with a solar ray.

Well then, it means I was not good at parenting.

It is questionable whether Dykun could have carried out proper politics.

Degwin is using the name of Zeon to privatize the state.

Well, that Giren is highly praised in the narrative of the novel version.

From the director’s perspective, that person is the ideal leader.

>>36

Up until V, Tomino was straight ahead in his distrust of human society, so maybe it’s easier to understand and preferable for him to portray a dictator with an elitist mentality.

>>42

From what I’ve seen in recent interviews, the distrust is still quite serious.

I was despairing that no forces had emerged to stop Trump and Putin.

>>44

I completely understand that feeling, but at the same time, I can’t help but think, “You created such a dead-end scenario for humanity…?”

>>42

If I liked them, I wouldn’t have them defeated by the protagonists.

>>47

It’s understandable to like something and also to be defeated by it.

>>51

What I love is the illusion called hope, which is the protagonists who break through the despair that humanity can only manage such people.

I don’t particularly want a dictator to do something about humanity.

>>36

I like the story of defeating dictators who, like Jamilov and Char from CCA, are doing the right thing from a broad perspective for the sake of recent peace.

I was also supporting the development of Apsaras.

If Char isn’t responsible for killing Dike, then what’s the point of him going out of his way to take revenge on the Zabi family?

>>39

From God’s perspective, the truth is unclear, but Char has been told by Ginebra that Degwin is involved in dark dealings.

In the first place, just by holding Revil-chan captive, Garma could end up not dying and they could conclude peace negotiations in favor of Zeon, so it can be said that a lot of unnecessary things were done.

The Daikun faction that appears in the story is represented by the radical Zimbalar.

They are the old men who supported Char in “Char’s Counterattack.”

In Char’s Counterattack, Char has completely degraded into a lesser version of Gihren as a leader, but people just follow him because he is Dikum’s child…

>>48

Well, it’s clear that Horst from Char’s Counterattack just wants to take revenge on the Federation government through his dialogue.

>>54

Did Horst say something like that in the play?

I only have the impression that they are doing various behind-the-scenes efforts and putting on a transparent act at the peace negotiation table.

Well, the only ones who would be in trouble if it’s not an assassination are the Dacoon faction, so regardless of the reality, they have no choice but to insist that it was an assassination.

>>50

I could understand it.

>>50

In that sense, Gihren is the same too…

His claim is that we need to drastically reduce the population and create a managed society.

I think adults normally think that it’s okay to die.

Corrupted adults should be killed, and then innocent children will create a better world.

It is certain that in the mind of the author, the belief that being unified under a dictator’s strong arm is superior to democracy exists.

In Hathaway, there is a discussion about the ideal of a “dictator who never makes mistakes.”

That’s something only God can do, or so the story goes.

In the game “Gien’s Ambition,” there is an ideal IF ending where, under Gihren’s dictatorship, humanity continues to prosper, assuming complete victory for Gihren Zabi.

>>58

As a result of dragging out the remnants of the Federation, the radical Titans, and various unsettling elements, and crushing all of them.

It can be said that it exists precisely because everyone who goes against Gihren has vanished.

It seems that the number of cemeteries created by the Zeon side on Earth is incredible.

In reality, it’s not okay… it’s something that’s wrong… I want to centrally manage humanity under a dictatorship~!

However, he also says that he doesn’t feel like it was intentional that it turned out that way with Amuro…

The masses are foolish and must be managed by superior beings, but only terrible people would try to manage humanity.

>>63

Hmm, you’re saying something bothersome.

According to Kysyria (referring to the time when Char mentioned the assassination of Garma)

Char: “I’ve become empty.”

Kishiria: “It seems that my father was the same.”

I think that’s why, like Char, they took a roundabout approach and as a result, Daikun died.

If what Kicilia said is true…

Aren’t there a lot of dictators among the characters in Gundam who advocate for environmental issues?

Rather, it seems that only the liberal elite class is interested in such things, and they will end up being ridiculed by the lower class citizens.

>>65

In the first place, space immigration itself was done to solve environmental problems, so it’s probably the biggest concern in that world.

>>65

The first promise made by the federation was that everyone would leave Earth.

If there are people who do not leave and are monopolizing, that can also serve as a justification.

In the G-Reco interview, it says to reduce humanity by a tenth, so essentially the villain of Gundam is the bald guy.

>>68

It hasn’t changed since F91!

Have Temrei create a management AI to govern humanity forever.

It’s a crazy world where abandoning people to space has become a reality, that’s the Universal Century.

It’s impossible for humanity to lead humanity.

However, as the series increases, there are times when the Principality of Zeon starts to look relatively decent…

At the very least, we can have a proper conference to conclude wartime treaties.

I can tell that you’re the king of Zeon just because you call yourself a king.

What is a public king?

>>75

When a duke becomes a ruler, he becomes a king.

Degwin himself is expressing resentment to Gihren and Kya’shiria, saying, “The moment you tried to establish a republic, I was placed under house arrest, right…?”

The unfortunate people are those whose goals differ from those of the children.

>>76

If my dad suddenly said he’s going to step down when he might become the highest authority in the country, I’d be like, are you kidding me?

If we make dad the king, it’s like we’ve gained absolute power.

If you just act normally, it’s obvious that the justice lies with the independence of the Spacenoids.

It’s bad that we start going backward and doing things like dictatorship by a single family, injecting poison gas, and acting like an evil empire.

The rationale from the Space Noids is that since the Federation initiated this and we are enduring the unreasonable demands, you should do your part too.

Hitler was defeated.

First of all, there is a certain foundation for followers to gather around Zeon, the Ronah family, and Zanscare…

>>80

A colony is just a small village community…

>>80

As you can see from ZZ’s Shangri-La

The maintenance of the colony’s infrastructure is in a relatively poor state.

>>86

It’s partly because the colony corporation is slacking off and prioritizing those who pay well.

The federation doesn’t pay attention to that colony corporation…

>>80

The fact that such extreme claims are being accepted indicates how corrupt the federal politics have become.

It’s a problem because there are many people lacking the imagination to notice such things.

According to Deggin’s story, the establishment of the monarchy was after Daikun’s death and was merely a means to unify the country.

Did they not face any backlash when suddenly establishing a monarchy?

If it’s there, can it be managed in any way after it’s laid out?

>>81

I’m deleting the ones that have been pushing back.

Did the Ziek Axis world move in a slightly better direction?

To improve humanity without a dictator, we must change the consciousness of each individual.

That’s the director’s theory, right?

Anti-federalism has always existed; it’s just that the portable shrine is different.

The true Daikun faction that opposed it and those who cling to democracy were likely purged altogether.

The most important thing is the independence of the Space Noids, so most would probably have accepted it for the sake of achieving that.

During his time as a politician, Deggin was a staunch hawk, so the way his children are is probably the result of seeds he sowed himself.

>>92

Perhaps there are aspects where they intentionally raised Giren like that…

I’m watching Z, but your grandchild looks like they can be naughty.

>>94

Minerva in Z is about 7 to 8 years old, right?

>>98

You can do it!

>>98

The way they talk with a tongue-tied manner and sit with one side of the throne leaned over, somehow trying to show off their dignity, is quite appealing.

Also, when I actually saw Haman-sama in the anime, I found her quite appealing.

>>106

That perspective is right!

The idea that the worst democracy is better than the best despotism is something humanity cannot understand.

Whether it’s a period of resistance against the federation or after someone has dismantled it, it’s all the same thing.

From the way Jinba Laru behaves, it doesn’t seem like this guy cares about democracy or anything like that.

>>97

If this guy is a close aide of Zeon, then maybe Zeon Daikun himself was thinking about a monarchy…

>>105

Zion Daikun may have died at a good time.

If that had happened, the Zabi family’s notoriety would have been directed towards Dykun.

>>105

Because there is a notion of elitism that the space residents become NT, or rather royal system.

I wonder what will happen when the federation collapses.

>>100

I’m doing it with G-Saber, but it’s said that there is a governing organization.

The federation-aligned colonies (including the formerly hostile Side 2 and Side 3) are

Created a new federative-like organization in collaboration with the Earth government.

>>113

If the ghosts of the old Zeon and Titans saw Side 3 and Earth teaming up to create a new federation, they would probably be surprised.

>>100

Since it’s the Sengoku period, there are many stories that can be created about small-scale conflicts.

Why did you make the second son inherit the political career?

Well, even so, Degwin’s Taka had a movement that felt like it was about appropriating power as a worker’s class or something communist, so if Gihren Kshyria takes action to rule Zyng as a dictator, it’s only natural for people to say, “Wait a minute.”

The reason everyone jumps at ideologies is because, when creating the colony, they deliberately packed in people from various nations equally.

No matter what you cling to, it will only become a small gathering place for a colony, so it comes together under Zionism, aristocracy, or new religions.

It’s the same with the crazy things like carriages in Texas Colony.

>>104

That’s a place that originally did livestock farming and tourism, so there might be horse-drawn carriages there, right?

It’s pretty crazy that unmaintained habitats are floating in space.

Unlike electric water supply, this is something you fundamentally can only die from.

>>109

It’s okay, even though the layer that protects against radiation is incredibly thin, everyone is doing their best to live on Moon Moon.

>>109

You can understand why Judou feels that his sister shouldn’t be allowed to go to a good school!

>>109

It seems there may be cases where people ignore issues because things are generally fine for a considerable number of years even with maintenance deficiencies.

When a fatal problem arises, it will become a serious commotion.

The first Kika is too much of a loli for me, but Z’s Mineva is just right.

Many creators from that era have a somewhat socialist vibe, but Tomino feels different, doesn’t he?

They are the same in that they have strong ideologies.

>>112

During Tomino’s college years, he was on the athletic side that suppressed student movements.

The politician from the Dikeun Federation got mad and moved to Side 3, so they might have seen the limitations of democracy.

>>115

The fact that there is no voting rights in the colony means that democracy has greatly regressed.

Anyway, it felt like there were limits to Dycun’s idealism…

It seems that Seira-san was also referred to as Princess Altheisia by Ramba Ral, so she must be royalty, but I don’t really understand the Zionic monarchy well.

>>118

I don’t know if it’s in the settings, but aren’t you using your title on Earth as a form of authority?

It seems that the junk dealer took the liberty of calling themselves nobility.

>>128

The junk dealer didn’t arbitrarily claim the title; they are simply buying the family name with money.

So the first generation had a huge complex about being of lowly status.

The second generation of Maizza was raised with an aristocratic education, and I felt like I couldn’t understand my father’s complex feelings.

The republican system from Deging’s declaration of independence for the Space Noids has some rather whimsical aspects, to be sure.

We can’t gather our forces effectively first.

Well, there is a view that democracy is too leisurely during those difficult times…

Many people have likely come to realize the issues surrounding infrastructure maintenance recently.

The fact that Zeon was able to sustain itself despite the economic policies in response to independence spurred the independence movement, but I can’t help but feel that this fact could have been used to educate the entire space-noid population in the long run.

Before that, the possibility of the Federation coming to fire nuclear missiles with extreme arrogance is quite normal, which is why the pro-war faction has asserted the need to overthrow the Federation.

The scheming bureaucrats appear, but since elections and politicians never show up, it’s hard to understand the corruption of federal democracy…

>>127

To be honest, it seems like a stage set for a soil where wars are constantly happening, and it’s probably not a place to think seriously.

I feel like democracy has never really been established from the beginning, as we keep sending people to colonies without voting rights.

>>129

Because if a politician who advocates for returning from space wins the election, it would be all for nothing, right?

Maybe I’m a prince because there’s King Zion.

I’m sorry, I let my guard down and said something that was really like Masaharu.

According to the G-Savior setting, the intervention in the inter-colony conflicts just before the collapse of the Federation seems to have turned into a rather large-scale war, which feels quite ominous.

It’s because of the strange social system that the thread image created that Kissilia and Mineva can be considered princesses.

It’s strange that Seira is a princess.

She may be a kind of high-class lady because she is the daughter of an ideological leader.

The Rona family bought their family name around UC0068, so it’s possible that they have a longer history than those claiming to be nobles of Zeon.

In the main story, this person hasn’t done anything wrong, right?

My eldest son says it directly that he doesn’t have it.

Speaking of which, there isn’t anyone who calls her Princess Kshyria.

>>143

I hope that Macbe is trying to call someone but is being rejected by Kycilia.

>>143

In the Zeta Axes world line, I might be entranced by Char and my heart might have transformed into that of a princess.

Sinful, Char.

The idea that NTs are born from Spacenoids is indeed a form of elitism, but the main theme of Daikun is not this; it’s more about “So all humanity should become Spacenoids!”

>>145

It’s interesting that Zeon and Jamitov have different thoughts but arrive at the same conclusion.

>>148

Both sides originate from the Ereruzum that should protect the Earth.

However, while Daikun openly stated it and was viewed with disdain, Jamitov kept it to himself, which was the difference.

There may be people among the Dykun faction who suggested transitioning to a monarchy because it was impossible to maintain a republic.

>>149

Ah, when I think about it, considering the work in public health, this person must be doing an incredibly important job.

You probably weren’t doing it properly.

>>149

It certainly seems that the ministries are responsible for the population explosion, doesn’t it?

It would have been better to distribute condoms for free during the Universal Century…

>>153

Even if it is distributed, whether to use it or not is a personal decision…

In other words, this world has already failed at population control before reaching the Universal Century…

It seemed like the war was about to end, but did they let Revill escape to prolong the war?

In the end, the situation with Erezum essentially revolves around the idea that Earth is in a critical state! The Federation was born from that awareness, so it must have been deeply ingrained in Earthnoids just as much as Spacenoids. There were probably quite a few people who wanted to voice their concerns about the Federation’s decision to stop the completion of space immigration.

However, you know… when it comes to the work of high-ranking officials in the federal army, it’s all about living a life of leisure with mistresses using magic cards…

>>159

It seems that even if a spacenoid becomes a congressman, they will be consumed by this system.

We’ll dismantle the nation, take all the land, and throw it into space. Voting rights? Don’t have any!

If you say that, it would definitely solve the population problem, wouldn’t it?

>>161

However, humanity that ventured into space reproduced without mercy!

The root of all problems is the population explosion, so when viewed with a modern perspective, there are parts that are a bit difficult to handle…

The Earth is in trouble! Let’s all go to space! They say this and create colonies, forcing people to immigrate to space, but when the population decreases, they say, “Actually, Earth is more comfortable, so we’ll just live on Earth,” which is typical of the Federation, so most space immigrants tend to be anti-Federation.

Where does the source of funding for the magical card that Hathaway received come from?

>>166

Taxpayer money from the colony residents.

>>166

Colony taxes

However, Hausley says that the taxes that were ostensibly taken for colony construction costs have already been paid.

>>166

I think it’s from the federal budget or taxes.

That payment is limited to within Davao City; the hotel can be used indefinitely until the card is returned.

In the original, it is limited to hotel use, but it is said that the use can be unlimited until it is returned.

The people of the Universal Century who absolutely get pregnant are living every day too much like an erotic manga.

>>167

That’s right, Degin has five children as well.

If the Federation is truly practicing democracy, it seems like their policies would only favor the Space Noids due to the tyranny of the majority.

>>171

Since the Space Noids have no voting rights, it is not just.

I think the emergence of some really amazing espers has complicated everything regarding the Newtype theory.

Wasn’t the large-scale war caused by conflicts between nations counted as one of the reasons for environmental destruction on the eve of the Universal Century?

It should probably be mentioned somewhere in the UC novels.

>>174

In the light novel “Sen Hasa,” there are food shortages and water shortages due to environmental destruction and population increase.

It seems like a hellish scene filled with conflicts over the remaining land, which exacerbated environmental destruction.

It will continue to increase for a while, but I can also see the ceiling… such a subtly delicate situation.

If they were Muslims, there wouldn’t have been claims that they would continue to multiply endlessly.

If done properly, a policy of abandonment wouldn’t even be possible…

If the author says that just because we can read their mind doesn’t mean we can understand each other, then what can we do?

The Earth Federation Parliament is an institution that decides policies for Earth, so it has nothing to do with Space Noids.

Each colony follows the decisions of the federal government.

In the end, there was only Zeon that could reasonably contend with the Federation.

It might have been the best route for Zeon to successfully unify the space inhabitants.

They must have failed to increase food production in various regions of Asia, or maybe an ice age is coming.

It seems like we will enter an ice age here in about 5 years.