>>1

Maybe it’s due to fatigue, but the last Togusa’s daughter looked ugly to me.

This may be an impolite question, but who are you?

>>6

When I watched it after a long time, there were many points in GIS that made me drowsy, but I could easily watch Innocence.

>>8

I feel that Innocence has a lot of ups and downs, even with small waves.

>>8

Innocence tends to have a lot of action.

>>10

Poor Togusa, having to deal with a full-body cyborg…

>>13

Being caught up and yelled at by the manager is terrible.

>>11

If you don’t want to, you don’t have to come, you know?

When I saw this as a single-digit age, I didn’t understand its meaning, but looking back at it now, it was quite interesting.

Confucius also said you shouldn’t make noise while sleeping in the theater.

You’re stepping into the jun zone.

The one that truly makes you sleepy is Sky Crawlers.

After watching GIS, I watched it continuously, and I was able to understand it much more smoothly than when I saw it 20 years ago.

Innocence was quite a normal Ghost in the Shell, aside from having too many quotes.

That’s why I told you to be dry!

The early-game Hadari’s fashion is nice, isn’t it…?

When I dress a doll at home, it just doesn’t look right…

I love both, but personally, I prefer gits a bit more.

It’s so cool when Ishikawa steps in to stop the rampaging Batou!

>>22

That old man can do anything, huh?

There are many quotes, but in many instances, there isn’t much of importance being said.

That being said, the theme is quite profound.

>>24

To put it simply,

The dilemma of whether the ghosts that arise from people other than those connected through GIS are valid or not.

Chasing the mystery of the rampaging gynoid that seems to be related to it… but it was just a wicked company.

That’s why the main story is simple, or rather, it’s a typical Ghost in the Shell.

>>34

I can understand that there is a bit of a difference in nuance from the original work, but I can’t accept the reason why Batou was angry at the girl he helped…

In the original work, it’s simply about the victim, and the girl is cute too…

Well, it’s probably an expression that Bato is becoming less and less human.

>>46

When ghost dubbing, the original will die, so what is copied can be considered the original, but if that goes out of control and dies, it means death…

But after all, the head of the shipping inspection department is to blame…

>>46

There have been police victims, but those who were killed in the first place are just scum who “knew what they were getting into.”

It’s also something different to be angry for those guys.

>>76

Well, that’s true, but…

Still, the girl’s reasons for being angry are pretty thin, aren’t they?

>>34

It feels like this is the kind of scenario you get when they do a TV special for Ghost in the Shell.

I think the puppet cycle was a bit more complicated.

I saw the stage greeting the other day on YouTube, and it seems that Mamoru Oshii has quite a strong attachment to Atsuko Tanaka.

The part explaining “It hasn’t changed, has it?” made me feel a bit sentimental too.

>>25

(Akiyoshi tearfully moved as Oshii explains Acchan’s performance)

>>25

I was just saying I wonder if there’s a voice actor perfect for the Major somewhere…

Initially, Akio Otsuka, who was already cast as Batou, introduced us to someone good, and that turned out to be Bitta.

Don’t keep those troublesome nameless pets!

The tuna sandwich I had for lunch and an emotional reunion.

>>28

In the original work, the cyborg has a better sense of smell than a police dog.

Anonymous

No need for Miss or Mrs.

>>29

The penis has been surgically removed with a rubber band…

You don’t need to become a Shisa to understand Shisa.

It’s difficult to uncover the repeated illegal modifications… 😤

Just get to the conclusion 😠

😬

Doesn’t it look fun?

The lives of the Yakuza are light…

Calling for a guardian angel is a bit creepy, Batou…

I won’t forget the kindness I received from the nameless!

(Brilliant festival)

>>39

I love those kinds of visuals and direction.

I don’t see it because I don’t want to.

I won’t say it even if I notice.

They don’t listen even when you say it.

When I saw it in the theater, the depiction of the reflections on the floor of Kim’s mansion was so intricate that it made me laugh strangely.

No name… this thread is a revelation that there is no truth.

Animation: S

CG:S

Sound: S

Layout: S

Story: B

Mr. Batou was at the point of the holo card that was stuck in that book.

As the resumed major said, I was just quietly doing my job because I had already sensed it.

You know that guy called Nameless, right?

>>53

I don’t know that kind of guy… No, there are tons of guys like that in this town…

Everyone is so gloomy!

Especially Batou, you sent him off relatively refreshingly at the end of the last installment, and now you seem too regretful!

Too particular about the depiction of the Basset Hound!

>>55

Casually, there’s a dog that appears a lot in the background posters of the previous work.

I went to the cinema back then.

One after another, the customers left the movie theater, and there were hardly any left.

Walk in solitude… there are few places that seek without doing evil…🌳🌳🌳🐘🌳🌳🌳

I wonder if part of the confusion that misinterprets Japan as being overly Chinese comes from science fiction like Ghost in the Shell.

>>58

That’s from Blade Runner…

(Sudden naval gunfire from the cruiser)

>>60

(The rib bones of Togusa that open up)

Innocence, but still a current P90.

The girl who was helped will just be forcibly made a dubbing source anyway, so it’s really just a pointless outburst.

It’s a movie where the quality of the visuals and the layout are so refined that it feels like the concept art is moving as it is.

Cannot stand above others.

Unable to serve under others.

It’s the kind of thing that’s suitable for lying by the roadside.

>>67

This is about me…

>>68

Walk in solitude… like an elephant in the forest…

Thinking about it now, I wonder why the main unit dies when you do ghost dubbing.

Was the last girl before the dubbing?

>>69

That’s simply because the technology is outdated.

Perfect ghost dubbing was made practical in a later era.

I really love to raid the yakuza’s office.

>>70

I like it, but it feels a bit like a quota for action scenes…

Even though Etorofu is one of the farther areas from China within Japan…

The doll is beautiful, and the girl is ugly.

Strong thoughts~

Wasn’t it set up that ghost dubbing is bad if repeated?

Otherwise, it would be too inefficient.

>>74

There was a guy at SAC who was dubbing like crazy, right?

>>93

That original is also dead.

>>97

They said they’ve endured it several times, but I wonder if ghost dubbing is really that painful after all…

It’s sad for the doll, isn’t it? 😠

The Basset Hound is cute.

>>79

Because all the girls are not cute, the dog becomes the cutest in the story.

>>85

My daughter is very happy.

My wife is furious.

>>87

It can be considered that Batou is quite disliked since only the daughter came out to greet him.

>>101

When my daughter came out, Gab-chan reacted and I thought they got along well… wamu

Ghost dubbing isn’t an instant death; it feels like you take damage each time you do it instead.

Walk in solitude.

I just saw it for the first time too!

Even though it’s a work from 20 years ago, the stylish Batou action at the end is really dynamic and looks cool, which surprised me.

Togusa was really putting in a lot of effort in the final battle, which I thought was nice, and Ishikawa’s neat hairstyle was super attractive.

The scene where the Major descends into the battlefield was really impactful… I thought it was amazing how different her performance as the head of Section 9 was compared to Tanaka’s… Also, I found it a bit amusing that there was once again a hatch-opening quota this time…

That guy.

It is said that without secrets, there can be no honesty…

>>89

You may be a thug, but you sure know how to talk well…

It’s funny how it follows the clichés of being a stickler for hatch-opening quotas and going overboard.

If it wasn’t intentional, then that’s funny in its own way.

People are generally not as happy or as unhappy as they think they are.

The important thing is not to get bored of wanting or living.

In GIS and Innocence, the main theme is that the ghosts are born spontaneously from humanoid entities.

First of all, this Batou-san is a puppet master who has actually seen the ghost, and he has also witnessed the merging with the Major.

It’s rather natural to feel a sense of disgust towards giving a doll a pseudo-ghost.

It’s nice to see a scene where the dog’s ears are spread out so they don’t get into the food bowl…

That world has external memory, so it might be easier to communicate by quoting a lot rather than speaking in one’s own words.

The things I’m doing are probably not different from what a faceless person would say in a template.

>>98

I laughed at the nice Shanks and Tough threads being talked about here.

>>98

This symbolizes the current social media and this place…

The story about the elephant suggests that as long as there is a serious and wise good partner in the first half, any hardship can be overcome, and that leads into the latter half.

If you don’t have such a companion, give up and live quietly alone.

I was thinking that it was interesting but the atmosphere felt heavy.

You don’t need to become a yakuza to meet a yakuza! Got it!? → Oh dear… I thought, ah yes, this is the kind of feeling I wanted to see around here!

Even if it’s for the punchline, how can Togusa buy a doll for his daughter after the back-and-forth with Halaway about dolls?

>>102

No matter what incident occurs, my daughter’s request is given the highest priority.

>>102

I think it’s a stance of saying something really annoying, but I can’t understand it.

>>107

If anything, it’s just the twisted reasoning of people without kids.

>>102

Togusa’s daughter holding a doll.

Togusa holding his daughter.

Batou holding a basset hound.

It’s a scene where they are holding what is considered to be an innocent existence in the work.

I apologize for the rude question, but… is that Togusa’s way of being sarcastic?

>>110

Well, that’s why Batou got emotional for a moment.

It’s only natural that those who are alive don’t want to die; the way I’m talking is more of a strange feeling, and I’m sure it makes them feel down right away.

In the scene from Haraway, the human Togusa exhales white breath while the cybernetic Batou does not exhale any white breath.

Haraway’s detail of making it unclear which side is which with cigarette smoke is very skillful.

Um… Togusa saying “Shall we talk about reality soon…?” is comforting.

However, I gratefully accept the tea that the hacker has offered.

Shall we talk about work soon?

I like how Ishikawa-san scolds single people with unstable jobs who don’t know when they might die for owning a dog.

>>117

The theory that the Ishikawa household has a dog.

Togusa hasn’t almost undergone cyberization, so even if he understands what Haraway and Batou are saying, it must feel different to him.

The moment I felt the greatness of the theater’s sound the most was

It might have been a scene where the detective uncle kicks an ashtray or something like that in the beginning.

This time, Ishikawa is pretty much like a mom.

>>121

The fact that they were restrained over there means they were being followed the whole time, which shows they care too much about their comrades.

I thought it was beautiful enough when I saw it before.

Does a remaster really change that much?

>>122

Change

HDR is bigger than 4K.

It feels like Kim’s mansion is dazzlingly bright.

>>122

The benefits of remastering are quite significant for films made for the cinema.

>>122

It’s not at a level you’d see on a 4K monitor, but…

That incredibly chaotic and messy imagery is polished enough to be watched in theaters today without any sense of discomfort.

>>122

The movie is until today.

>>132

Tomorrow I’m going to see Mononoke and FLOW…!

>>132

For some reason, it’s running in Tachikawa until the 19th.

It’s the worst that the underboss is leaking information under pressure from Batou.

I laughed because I kept quoting, but if my brain were constantly connected to the internet, I might end up being someone who quotes widely from great literature and poetry.

Because it’s cool…

>>126

No, for me, connections to secondary sites and YouTube make up 95%.

I like the little details like the living Togusa being the point man in a narrow corridor and Batou switching to semi-auto as he runs low on ammo.

Descartes, who did not distinguish between humans and machines, or the biological world and the inorganic world, named a doll that resembled his beloved daughter, who died at the age of five, Francine, and doted on it.

Huh…?

>>130

It’s the original source for Francine from Karakuri Circus and such.

It seems that drawing the scene where a quietly energetic officer from the local precinct breaks into the hideout of the inspection department chief was extraordinarily difficult.

It was interesting, but there were almost only old men on screen, and the usual perverted robot was also absent, which I thought was quite a bold move…

Well, that’s probably the case with Hadari, but…

It’s hard to express, but the visuals of Innocence feel like the graphics of a level 100 PS2, in a way that they don’t feel outdated; it feels like you’re looking at a technology tree from a parallel world.

>>137

It feels like a thorough creation of the mysterious Chinese world that used to be popular, deeply rooted in the hearts of various people.

Even now, it still has a timeless quality.

The ending of the previous work connects to this one.

>>138

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Even if cyberization becomes widespread, it seems like advertisements will be inserted every time I look at something.

Just as I was watching the trailer, a horror movie that starts with doll therapy was being promoted, no way…

Just because I don’t want to become a “doll” that is “kept alive only to be ghost-dubbed,” is it okay for me to turn someone else into a “doll” that has its free will taken away for the purpose of carrying out a mission, only to meet a fate of destruction?

I mean, that “other person” is actually a ghost of my dubbed self, right? It’s like another version of me? How can I do something like that to myself?

I understand that feeling, but I wonder if it’s a kind of anger.

Innocence was not just reminiscent of China; it was completely Chinese.

>>144

Wasn’t that world around the Northern Territories part of China?

>>148

Quiz! Which country does the Etorofu Economic Special Zone belong to?

Bato-san, who doesn’t recognize the cyborg at the entrance of Kim’s mansion!

>>145

You said it was a guardian angel because you understood, right?

Togusa fell into the trap because he doesn’t understand.

The story about the coroner’s child in the beginning connects too well to the rescued child’s line at the end…

Do not set up a booth at the police station.

>>147

🐖

Despite having a tough time, Togusa is keeping up with Batou, so he’s doing well.

>>151

The major could do much more…

>>152

It’s okay! I can still do it!!

It’s okay to consume it as a luxurious buddy story featuring Akio Otsuka and Kōichi Yamadera.

Falling shelf life

Dead end of the fallen line

The text translates to “Rocky puppet goes.”

Stones accumulate and come.

>>156

(I don’t understand at all)

>>161

It seems like they are also struggling with the English translation, and I saw some exchanges about whether the translation that comes with the software is correct or not.

>>156

Is there an original source for this?

>>174

Zeami

>>174

Zeami

The streets filled with neon signs in Hong Kong and the Kowloon Walled City are now just stories of the past, so in that sense, it’s a mysterious Chinese world that exists as an extension of our imagination.

Bato-san, you are loved by everyone, whether it’s Ishikawa who rushes to the shop worried about you, or Togusa who stays with you until the end of your work, or your guardian angels.

The other day, I saw a late show in Kobe, and even though it was a small theater, it was packed with troublesome otaku.

I was surprised.

>>159

I probably went to the same place on Saturday, but I was surprised by how many female customers there were.

The rest were mostly seasoned bald otaku and seasoned otaku with hair.

>>160

If it were last Saturday, we might have been in the same screen…

When listening with good sound quality, it makes you think “the nue bird is chirping too much!”

>>162

The folk singer’s voice is too powerful…

>>166

(Since Director Oshii is an anime director, he can surely draw!! Please sign and illustrate!! The powerful folk song aunties say.)

>>162

There were about three types of soundtracks for that, right?

I watched SAC influenced by Innocence.

You should listen to this… The mirage waits in the underworld… Huh!!

There are too many people in charge of folk songs with the same last name!

I love the structure where the interaction at the very beginning with Haraway is actually the essence of the work itself.

The aunties are so powerful that at the live performance, they are so far away from the microphone that it’s incomprehensible.

If I buy a ticket at the theater, I should make it in time… but I’ll check the seating situation just in case… Oh no, it’s actually quite full, so I hurriedly made a reservation.

http://nobunsha.jp/meigen/post_91.html

Storm—! Debris—!!

I’ve been able to collect money multiple times through theaters, DVDs, Blu-rays, and re-screenings…

I like this one more than GIS.

The number of views is totally different.

The conversation full of quotes is actually just light banter, where they keep searching for and pulling in stylish phrases that are hinted at in the story, but it hardly has any substance, which is nice.

I really love the music of the folk song aunties.

Recently, I’ve been interested in a band called Suzume no Tears, but their lyrics are just like folk songs and lack a bit of refinement. It would be great if they could brush that up a bit more to make it more modern.

When the sword mountain gets sharp, they come closer…

Batou has always thought that he might already be a doll, but he doesn’t express that concern during the story…

I love descriptions of when taking care of dogs.

Too strong of a personal preference.