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A spin-off series without the original author’s permission!?
>>4
The original author was in high spirits.
The artwork of the manga version is brilliant.
>>6
If the original work is lively, then it’s fine.
Tending to resort to easy spin-offs…!
What is that silly-looking ribbon…?
Why does the animation get messed up?
>>9
It’s as if they’re saying, “I’m not satisfied with just you for the drawing, so I’m going to add one more person.”
>>14
Well, then there’s nothing else to say but good luck to the animator for drawing two weeks’ worth of content…
Why do you get angry in a way that harms yourself like that…?
If it’s a work that suddenly took off due to an exceptionally well-made manga version, then I might have the right to be critical of the artwork.
>>10
Gya-Hi
>>10
It can’t be.
I feel like character development is originally the job of the source material.
Not everyone has the same landmines in the same places, which makes the world complicated.
It’s natural to feel that it’s impossible to work with someone when the author hasn’t built a trusting relationship and only provides a report after the fact.
Whether or not someone thinks it’s okay to throw away their job depends on the person.
Is it a pattern of original works where the original story and the artwork are separate, rather than a comic adaptation of a novel?
>>16
It’s a comic adaptation, but it’s a pattern that took off once it was adapted.
Before considering the pride of the artists, simply being subjected to this kind of move makes me lose trust.
Being made to draw signed copies for free.
It’s not that they’re not angry; it’s that they’re definitely the type to be harboring frustration…
You are treated as someone who is not involved.
I was probably really pissed off about the issue with the 100 signed books.
Having 100 signed copies would damage my hands.
Doing work on your own without contacting me seriously makes me lose trust.
When it actually happens, it really hurts your pride a lot.
>>22
If it’s someone with whom you have a solid trust relationship, there are many cases where you can be casual, but that’s not the case here…
>>22
Since it’s a spin-off, to be clear, there’s no need to stay in touch at all.
It’s just that another story by the original author is being adapted into a manga, right?
Or are you also going to be in charge of the animation?
>>31
Ha~
In other words, I am an outsider in this work.
Well then, I’ll get off since I’m an outsider.
>>34
Well, the spin-off project is for outsiders, isn’t it?
>>41
I’m saying I’m getting off, not that I’m just going to sit here.
>>41
Do I really have to meet with the spin-off author for the series launch, even though I’m an outsider…?
>>55
Of course, this rookie editor is doing extra work to make this goddess-like artist happy.
>>31
If we had talked about that, they might have said, “Then we’ll do that too.”
I proceeded without saying anything and already had a job offer.
It’s really crazy to think about, like, how can I work with someone like this?
I want to read a bit about cheese rice.
I think it’s unnecessary to awkwardly defend someone when the artist is actually frustrated in the manga.
The fact that granting a “chi” is generally seen as falling under the category of favorable for the original creator is not very well known.
>>32
I love the story about how the original author happily accelerated the writing speed for the comic adaptation.
Is the illustration of manga something to keep secret in a spin-off project to surprise the audience?
>>35
There’s no need to even discuss it.
The story differs between manga with an original author and manga based on an original work.
Just read it for now.
>>37
I don’t really understand.
I don’t really know how much work went into the illustration, so it’s hard to say.
Well, not just a spin-off; there’s even a comic adaptation by a different manga artist with the same title from the same original work.
It’s amazing that the artwork has hit it big by adapting a mystery novel that combines fantasy and quantum mechanics into a comic.
“◯◯ rice” sealed in dungeon cuisine…
Seriously, a terrible editor…!
Monthly Trilemma Ah, that’s the achievement of Teacher Miyabi in the comic version, isn’t it~? Yes, yes, Teacher Miya is truly like a god and wonderful… Even when they messed up with a fatal blunder… I… I’ll forgive you, but it will be a punishment!? Even when they miscounted the number of pages… I… it’s fine, b-b-both? When they mistakenly made 10 signed copies into a gift of 100 copies… Gah, the signed copies… I… it’s fine, they kindly forgave me with a smile… I mean, have I messed up too much!? I’m so sorry, I’m really sorry. Please don’t overdo it. Peta!! I’m sorry! I’m sorry!! Teacher Edo!! Should I commit seppuku!? It’s okay, Ms. Yamanoi, it must be tough getting used to work in your first year as a working adult.
>>47
You really have forgiven me a lot, haven’t you?
>>51
I have no expectations because I’ve resigned myself to the fact that you’re a worthless piece of trash.
There was a book that came out like a “Youjo Senki” dining facility, I wonder if that sold well.
The only complicated part is how the illustrations of characters that aren’t drawn by the original illustrator are handled.
>>50
The past one that seemed the most troublesome in terms of sub character design that I know of is…
The illustrator of the original work did a comic adaptation, but it was canceled due to editing troubles, and the original author also had issues with the editors, resulting in a cancellation.
The person from the illustration has moved, and for some reason, the original work that was first animated by the publisher is being re-comicized.
I thought it was a bit complicated that everyone except the protagonist and the heroine had their basic designs completely changed.
Since there was no character design notation, it seems that it became a hassle.
>>165
With that explanation, it just looks like the editing was done poorly…!
This is already horror, isn’t it?
Doumei Diabolica… it was a full-fledged mystery that had a niche popularity on the internet, combining fantasy and quantum mechanics. The content was extremely complex, and some thought it was impossible… but for some reason, the Nico collation became a huge hit! Sensei Anki’s anime season 2 has been confirmed! The original work and various editions have continued to be released, right? That’s nice! Speaking of the distance with Sensei Anki… Eh! If I say that, it will hurt a little… When I completed several such dense manuscripts, I thought, “Do I love it too much?”… When I miscounted the pages… When I intended to give away 10 signed copies but ended up giving 100 instead, oh no… I’m… oh no… With a smile, you forgave me… Is this okay for me? Not in a lewd sense! Please don’t overdo it! I’m so sorry! Now that I think about it, Eji-san is genuinely struggling! T-that!! I’m sorry for the peeling! I’m sorry! I’m sorry! For a while, I won’t remember your name the way I should… It’s okay, Yamanoi-san, your first year as a working adult must be tough getting used to the job. Yamanoi made a determination to boost Minobi-sensei’s serialization! Definitely a goddess…? Ah… To that end, I plan to launch a spin-off!
>>52
Why is there a spin-off to boost the serialization…?
>>52
I don’t understand the actions that come from “we have to liven things up”… what does that mean?
(I think they’re being regarded as completely incompetent, so there’s no point in having any expectations…)
Is it the little devil psycho?
For some reason, starting the same story with different animations and copying names extensively.
The original artist got angry, but the editor ignored it and it was canceled.
>>58
Since the original creator is involved with a webtoon company that has started a new series, as an editor, it was easier to upset the artist rather than anger the original creator or get into conflicts with other companies.
Well, as a result, the animation director stepped down, and the webtoon also lost its source of inspiration and became really poorly done.
In the world, there are works where four different manga artists each write a different chapter with the same title, which is amazing.
Isn’t that just too awful as an edit?
>>62
It’s incompetent editing, you know?
I can understand being upset about a spin-off, but I don’t get why you would plan a spin-off when you feel gratitude towards the manga artist.
>>63
I understand wanting to go get a new job for this person! Or wanting to move forward with the story for an original series!
I think hiring a different artist to draw a new comic adaptation brings no benefits to the current artist, but what direction does the author want to take this in?
>>72
It’s just the failure of incompetent editors who believe they have enthusiasm.
>>80
It’s troubling to be faced with a fool at the level of Ajino Suke.
The deputy editor’s hairstyle is amazing.
W-why are you angry…!? How many times has this guy messed up!?
It’s a monster that can’t understand people’s hearts.
When creating this spin-off work, the reference materials will naturally be provided by the artist.
Did the person who drew it suddenly prepare for that?
The situation where “forgiveness has turned into killing” is dangerous.
>>70
What they are doing is like a gag manga.
>>70
It’s like the editing of the misspelled edition of Sword Master Yamato from Gag Manga Biyori.
I’ll kill you…
I won’t lose the manuscript…!
It’s a growth story of a bad editor, so… probably…
There are mistakes at work, but being enthusiastic… if the mistakes are too fatal, it becomes impossible for the character.
As expected, it’s just too incompetent.
Could it really be that after this development, this terrible editing will be accepted as if it’s nothing…?
>>77
I will forgive it since it turned out to be a female I like when combined with the spin-off character…
Crap editor? I have no expectations from the beginning, so I don’t care.
>>77
I remembered that.
A terrible manga where, after leaking information to Hi, the senior got really angry and ended up being looked at coldly and criticized by those around them, but it became a hit and ended with no consequences—ultimately a great success!
>>77
The new boss in the upper right corner with the ribbon is extremely capable, ensuring a win-win situation while also making the protagonist reflect properly.
“You’re not going to lose the manuscript, so are you analog?”
I really think not reading the past works of the assigned author is a serious drawback.
I want it to be about the protagonist’s growth, but it seems like there are a lot of writers who have been treated like garbage by this guy, which is not good.
I read it for now, but…
I still don’t really understand…!
If the person in charge of the spin-off messes up, it seems like the artist would get a lot of backlash too.
There are pharmacies being called tax evaders even though they haven’t done anything wrong.
The image of the work is influenced by everyone involved.
It’s sad to feel that even though the drawing is great, the character’s movements are chaotic, including the theme.
Isn’t it a joke that an enthusiastic editor who wants to believe in the author and create a big hit together hasn’t read even one of the author’s past works?
>>89
There are many people who say they are motivated but don’t study or reflect at all…
>>97
Making such a character the protagonist is quite a challenging choice for a manga, isn’t it…
>>100
In the first episode, your motivation receives guidance stating that it backfires because you are being followed by your boss who properly researched the author’s background.
>>97
Well, if someone says your product isn’t selling, and you get upset because they said too much, I wonder if you really have the right to be angry.
A chance to sneak into your pocket! (Not an incompetent editor’s chance, but a boss’s chance)
If the spin-off becomes popular, there is the benefit that the original comic adaptation may also see an increase in sales.
Well, the probability of people who haven’t read the original getting hooked on the spin-off is a really rare case.
>>93
It’s not uncommon to develop an interest in the original work after casually reading a school parody or some spin-off featuring characters you like.
Especially when the original work has unique settings and is being avoided because it seems difficult in science fiction or fantasy.
If it’s the amount of reading equivalent to all of Akagawa Jiro’s past works, then I might be willing to forgive it.
It’s madness to say it’s a fair match with Yumeno Kakera’s person in charge.
Well, it’s important to act like there’s a lot of excitement and popularity by releasing a spin-off.
If the plan is well thought out,
>>96
There are also examples where it went viral, increasing the popularity of the original work, or leading to the next person in charge of the spin-off.
If the editing is decent
You think that just moving without thinking is what it means to try hard, don’t you, you piece of trash?
You’re told that clearly, right?
Why does this protagonist make such a declaration when they have absolutely no redeeming qualities…?
>>99
Isn’t it because they are that kind of people?
Letting my boss clean up my mistakes.
>>99
So it’s really no good.
The ribbon is too big!
Even though I’m involved in the ongoing comic adaptation of that work, I haven’t received any contact at all.
If they say they’re going to start another spin-off manga, of course I’ll get mad!
The reason I wasn’t angry about the 100 free signed copies was truly because I had no expectations at all…
Amazing… even after reading it all, I can’t follow it at all; I am completely and utterly incompetent…!
I’ve never been angry until now… It’s not being kind, it’s just completely giving up, right?
>>110
This is also pointed out properly in the work, showing how the author has it all under control.
There have been several times when I found out later (oh, this was a spin-off…)
I wonder if it would have been better if the protagonist had a capable boss.
>>116
In a coming-of-age story, the protagonist must be someone incompetent.
>>124
It’s quite common to have a powerful protagonist with a growth-oriented partner, so I think that would have been better.
Isn’t it fine if you’re talking to the original work?
>>117
>>117
In terms of rights, yes.
However, since the popularity originated from the manga, it makes sense that the spin-off is based on that, so it’s natural to discuss the artwork as well.
>>128
It’s a matter of properly considering and addressing the pride of the illustrators, so it’s separate from the main issue.
>>117
In terms of design, there are rights related to the artwork, so if you anger the artist, it will become a huge hassle later on.
>>117
The protagonist values the manga artist greatly and wants to be by their side.
I’m the type who gets angry when someone says that the rights-related issues have nothing to do with the people who create the artwork.
If it becomes a spin-off that got animated, would it be Kaiji’s spin-off?
Amazing
The negatives are not limited to just manga editing; they can apply universally.
“It’s not so much that I got angry because the conversation didn’t go through, but rather that it’s just the culmination of everything up to now that has exploded, right?”
That’s why only your best friend got famous, you know!
Wait, there’s really nothing to praise, and this protagonist has no weapons at all.
What do you want me to do?
>>123
It feels like the author of the manga in the thread is writing a story where a harsh-tongued female boss berates someone while steering things in a good direction.
As for my impression after reading, it felt like Yutori-chan disappeared from the duo of Ramen Hage and Yutori-chan in Ramen Saiyuki, and an unpleasant character was introduced, making it a painful experience to read.
It seems that it’s a new series that started in the February issue of YanJan, so I read the first chapter.
It felt like a boring slice-of-life manga about work, which was tough to get through.
There are scenes where he’s actually doing competent work, so the fact that the main character is portrayed as a completely incompetent fool is intentional…
>>127
In the end, the story is set up where my past friend has become a huge success and left me behind, so being completely useless at this point is exactly as intended.
By the way, I couldn’t relate to it at all back then.
There were manga that received no punishment because information was leaked and it went viral.
It ended quickly, but…
I want to mainly focus on the ability of a capable boss to manage people’s hearts.
It would probably be difficult to develop the story with that character as the main protagonist…
There might be something like this in manga that became popular on Narou.
A spin-off might be a bit better…
It’s kind of strange that it seems like both people are being made to draw at the same time, like a monologue from a pharmacy.
In other words, it’s not something that needs to be confirmed that it’s intentionally drawn as utterly incompetent!
>>134
As expected, intentionally drawing in a completely incompetent way with this art style is a bit too unclear in intent, so I want to double-check it!
>>139
Since it’s a story about growth, does it need the unexpected intention of starting from the absolute bottom…?
>>147
Wait!
Isn’t it normal for such protagonists, who seem to be hopeless at first glance, to have some outstanding qualities?
>>159
But in most cases, this guy is totally fine, so why is he being treated as if he’s no good? It’s the kind of thing that raises questions.
>>166
There is a matter of degree in everything, isn’t there?
>>134
There are probably quite a few people who post without reading the content, just going along with the usual disturbing manga vibe.
You’re saying all sorts of things, but it’s really being pointed out in the story how much you underestimate manga artists, so I’m drawing it intentionally.
I’m here, but honestly, how ridiculous is it to be this stupid?
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Even if the initial value is low, at least let it be an attractive character that readers can come to like…
I hope there is at least one strength that I can look forward to for future growth…
>>137
It’s like a challenge play with the weakest monster.
Huh, how am I supposed to clear this with such a weak character…?
Aha!
Well, this is a yuri manga.
It’s crazy to react like, “You read all of the past works of the author in charge? Did you really go that far…?”
>>141
It’s pretty scary not to know even the works of the authors you are in charge of, let alone anything else.
>>141
I can understand the difference between a passionate manga editor and a capable editor.
I’m completely enthusiastic, but I don’t really understand the settings of this.
It’s hard to swallow something simple, and I wonder if it’s not interesting…
>>160
It’s not that I really have passion, but I just think that I do.
What I really want to draw is a capable boss.
>>143
Well, from a design perspective, the clearly incompetent editor looks more like a background character.
The terrifying thing about this edit is
I recognize myself as a passionate manga editor, different from the seniors around me.
Even though I don’t realize that reading all the past works of the assigned author is hard.
>>145
Well, taking that into consideration, it has been pointed out that such passion can kill a writer.
It seems to be a flow where the boss reflects on being someone who thinks about writers.
>>163
Hey, right after that, I’m saying I’ll show you that I’m above you, but I wonder if I’m really reflecting on this…
>>173
It’s not like a person’s fundamental character can change that suddenly; that’s just fantasy…
>>163
So then, what have we been doing passionately all this time, this incompetent and even harmful editing?
Well, what I’ve been doing is…
Taking the opinions of a loud minority on the internet seriously led to the production of unmarketable manga, effectively killing off creators.
>>175
They say that such passion can kill a writer, but in reality, it hasn’t killed them yet, has it?
>>145
And the complaint that was pointed out afterwards is “You’re saying too much!”
I don’t care, but…
Competent people really do look ridiculous…
It’s common for popular works to have more spin-offs.
Even so, are you saying my digging is insufficient or where are you angry?
It’s a cooking spin-off unrelated to the main story, so it shouldn’t be that there isn’t enough depth in the main story.
In the first place, I feel a sense of arrogance from the animation staff, as if I were their character.
>>150
Yeah, they’re getting arrogant. Let’s cut off that manga artist. That’s it!
I think immaturity and incompetence are different.
Starting from the bottom is good.
This guy is starting from the bottom of a hole in the minus.
The original work mentioned in the thread is a high-calorie, niche piece that is a serious mystery combining fantasy and quantum mechanics.
That has led to the comic adaptation becoming a mysterious massive hit, and the second season of the anime has also been confirmed.
I made the artist in charge of the comic adaptation angry.
If it’s a story of a somewhat incompetent person growing, there might be some affection for it.
Someone who is perfectly incompetent and impossible from the outset.
The reality has even worse cases, you know…
An email is sent afterward, feeling somewhat like a mere formality, with everything already decided without any room for the original author’s intervention.
I think it would become extremely interesting if Teacher Honoo got involved here.
>>164
The Surprise Honoo Moyuru theory is too strong, so it should be banned.
There are only unnamed people who are confused because the main character has been made so incompetent.
Did you, of course, properly consult and report the spin-off project to the boss?
>>170
The only one I haven’t told is the illustrator for the comic adaptation! It’s a surprise, you know!
>>176
In that case, I feel like the boss would also be responsible.
If I get angry during the drawing process and have to start over, it’ll be the worst—having to discard all the character designs I was using up to that point and create everything from scratch.
Even considering it as a character business, hell begins.
I feel like I’ve seen the artist of this manga somewhere before…
At least at the starting point, killing three people means there’s no way to atone for this.
Well, anyway… as for my impression after reading, it’s not a manga that makes me want to read the second or third episode, so I guess that’s okay…
If you’re an editor of a bottom-tier magazine that is planned to be discontinued, this is pretty much what you would expect.
Could it be a horror manga?
It’s beyond being inexperienced; it’s so incompetent that it becomes harmful.
The protagonist, who has nothing to rely on other than a kind of enthusiasm within themselves,
It seems to be content that you learn while being explained the techniques and knowledge of a skilled boss.
Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that they haven’t conveyed it,
I wonder how this idiot thinks it’s going to be a surprise.
I was curious about the story, but the main character isn’t someone I want to keep watching…
Aren’t the rights to the manga and the design held by the publisher?