Isn’t the one who’s not a bad guy from a different world?

It seems like you’re saying that you had a friendship with Shirou.

Choose your friends.

>>5

I wonder if it only worked because Shirou is a person on the broken side.

There are two completely different versions of Shinji, so there’s a possibility of confusion.

Isn’t it that the ones who are playing the original are the real bad guys?

It started with Hollow becoming a gag character, right?

Type-Moon works have that kind of aspect, after all.

In anime, is it explicitly stated that there is rape?

I don’t know because I haven’t watched the anime.

>>13

It feels like it could go all the way to Hollow…

With just SN, it’s kind of… like that.

A scoundrel, or rather, a lowlife.

Whose is it…?

I have had a penchant for favoring and liking incredibly chaotic enemies since my doujin days.

>>18

Aren’t you just not being favored by Shinji?

>>24

I often see people getting strangely emotionally involved here, though.

>>33

Sure, it’s easy to empathize with feelings of inferiority, and on top of that, most people are saying that Shinji is a scumbag.

I mean, that’s a player’s perspective and has nothing to do with favoritism from the official side, right?

Is it just that Shirou’s tolerance level is strange?

I remember thinking it was too silly to launch a Rider’s special attack on the rooftop where I was too.

>>20

Well, back then I was really pressed for time…

Was I said to be a good guy?

It is described that there are good aspects as well.

I think some people might think it’s character dissing when you say someone is a bad guy…

There’s no doubt that he’s a villain, but I feel like the existence of worse people makes his shadow less prominent.

There used to be some good things in the past.

Isn’t it the case that there are fewer people who claim they are not bad people…?

He’s a good guy at heart…

>>30

I didn’t say anything like this, but somehow there are strange embellishments attached to it.

Since Shinji keeps trying to appeal that he’s actually a good guy.

In the case of sn, it’s trash, and with ha it ended up as a gag, so I perceive it as having become somewhat milder.

I like it enough to want a route.

I won’t say he’s a good guy, but

Not a villain, but trash, scum, a weak human.

I can somewhat understand that nuance.

Myo has charm.

Isn’t it like a good guy mixed with the impression of moon seaweed?

In the original, Shirou’s reaction was just a “hmm” even when he died.

I think it might be mixed with Shinji’s impression of the moon.

If they said that Shinji from the moon is basically a good guy, I could accept that.

It seems that Shinji is aware of having failed his character enough to regularly engage in Shinji’s revenge.

I don’t think he is a good person, but I do feel that he is pitiable or pathetic.

Also, in fan creations, I often ended up being put through horrible situations for the punchline.

It seems that they’ve become a lovable character due to being turned into a gag character in HA.

It’s funny how they’re becoming more and more weak-kneed because they went viral.

Even if the original creator Shinji Shirou dies, I won’t be shocked…

I tried going from SN to HA without knowing the online reputation, but I felt a bit of a disconnect thinking, “Why is this guy fitting in so harmoniously?”

I thought maybe I was missing some information.

The difference between a villain and an evil person is something that Aoko or Shiki might talk about when explaining it to Toako.

I think that character consistency is often compromised in derivative works.

It feels like I can’t talk about a character as an individual without considering the meta perspective of the circumstances of each work.

I understand that there isn’t a particularly bad impression of Shinji in UBW.

Because I was completely a fool, for better or worse.

I saw that the treatment of Sakura differs between the PC version and the all-age version, which changes the impression.

>>51

Even in the all-age version, it’s still included in the Bug’s Warehouse, you know.

It seems that the impression of Shinji from the Moon and the somewhat ambiguous portrayal of Shinji has merged together.

Well, as long as the rape doesn’t go away, the impression won’t improve.

It was caused by the environment, so there is a sense of being a victim that feels acquired.

There is an impression of being a loser, a pathetic person, or a failure, but…

Were they really acting in the shadows to the extent of being called a villain?

The rear root doesn’t seem like a good guy.

>>55

It’s just Shirou and Mushroom saying whatever they want…

He’s just an ordinary jerk.

Most people probably like the character, but don’t necessarily think of them as a good person.

I thought it was just a minor detail, but doing something like normal Sakura R*** with just a rider is a bit much…

Aren’t the voices of extreme people just loud regardless of which opinion you take?

The official statement doesn’t say that the root is a good guy, and isn’t it quite a minority even among fans…?

Originally, they are a scoundrel, but without all the implications related to the Holy Grail War, they aren’t really a villain… It might be that the story has become exaggerated as it is being told like that.

I was thinking, is Grandpa also being nicely purified and passing away…?

I mean, it’s still really strange to me that HA ended with such a refreshing last shot!