Home » Game » Dynasty Warriors » [Dynasty Warriors: ORIGINS] Isn’t it amazing that Liu Bei was able to transition from the one-strong-state of Cao Cao, who defeated figures like Lu Bu, Yuan Shao, and Yuan Shu, to the tripartite confrontation?

[Dynasty Warriors: ORIGINS] Isn’t it amazing that Liu Bei was able to transition from the one-strong-state of Cao Cao, who defeated figures like Lu Bu, Yuan Shao, and Yuan Shu, to the tripartite confrontation?

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What an amazing hero…

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That’s amazing!

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I’ve already thought that for a while now.

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Isn’t this kind of hero just like you and your control in this era?

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Brother Atsushi, please cut off the connection from Wei.

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It looks amazing just considering the size of the country…

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It’s crazy that he just started an independent power from a rootless plant and ascended to the throne.

The throne is a bit suspicious, though.

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What’s amazing is Kongming, right?

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You’re a loser who took the country from Liu Zhang, right?

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What is up with Yuan Shao, who brought it that far only to collapse due to internal conflict…?

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>>9

Indecisive guy.

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>>9

First of all, it’s too painful that Yuan Shao himself fell ill.

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>>9

“??? ‘I was thinking about Yuan Shao.'”

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>>9

The downfall of powerful factions in the Three Kingdoms is generally caused by internal strife.

Even Wei came to an end due to internal strife…

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When I see the firstborn son, who is clearly unfit to succeed the great figures of the world, being crushed and the second or third sons being entrusted instead, I can’t help but think that Yuan Shao is indeed indecisive.

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The thread image is also executing an adopted child, who will likely become a source of disaster, as advised by Kongming, with tears in their eyes.

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Mr. Yuan Shao’s eldest son is just too terrible, no matter how you look at it.

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Yuan Shao’s eldest son is not that bad after all.

I don’t think he’s exceptionally better, as my third son says.

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But the way the aftermath is being handled is pretty sloppy, so Yuan Tan is quite similar to his father, isn’t he?

We don’t resemble each other in the complete lack of charisma.

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However, I think it’s quite difficult to push that aside and go for the younger ones in an era where primogeniture inheritance is the norm.

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The brief period when both Han Zhong and Jingzhou were taken over had quite a wide territory.

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The Wei had too many short-lived emperors.

How many people have lived past 30?

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>>22

Everyone except Cao Mao is over 30 years old…

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What’s with the overwhelming agreement responses from Cao Cao in the Liu Bei thread?

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Yuan Shao was also reluctant to support Emperor Xian’s enthronement…

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The lord is a poet, after all.

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>>25

Is that the kind of problem it is?

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I left it to my eldest son, but if we lost and ended there, it would mean my eldest son is incompetent, but Yuan Shao not making a decision gives a bad impression.

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>>26

Even though I lost at Guandu, I still had some strength left and intended to keep living, so I probably hadn’t made a decision… but I ended up dying in two years…

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Shu is too isolated and rural.

If you’re going to be a recluse, that’s one thing, but I think it’s a bit reckless to claim dominance over the world…

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>>28

It’s a northern expedition! It’s a northern expedition! It’s a northern expedition!

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But Liu Bang became emperor from being the King of Han, right?

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>>29

I think the problem is that this word is too strong.

Liu Bang’s escape from Hanzhong was partly because Xiang Yu’s foundation was unstable.

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>>29

Liu Bang settled it in less than 5 years, so we need to act quickly…

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Is there anyone who unified the world from around Shu and Wu?

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>>31

It was probably Liu Bang of the Han Dynasty and Zhu Yuanzhang, who began the unification of Jiangnan…

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>>31

Qin Shi Huang

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Even Liu Bang hated working in this kind of countryside and ended up being abandoned by his subordinates, but he still managed to take control of the empire.

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>>34

An unusually strong general

Too Clever Strategist

A thing that can provide rice infinitely.

You just need to gather these guys.

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>>43

The technique that was truly necessary for Zhang Jiao.

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If Cao Cao had suddenly died two years after the Battle of Guandu, the Cao family would have been in trouble, and in the end, dying young is not good.

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>>36

It’s only been about 15 years since the Yellow Turban Rebellion, but around the time of the Battle of Guandu, they were in their 40s and 50s, so there was a possibility of dying suddenly around that time, both Cao Cao and Liu Bei.

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On the other hand, Emperor Guangwu was riding a cow.

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Liu Bang would think, “What? Did fate side with you?”

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Bashoku is in the wrong.

If I had won the game, I would have been able to go.

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It was somewhat fortunate that Xiang Yu couldn’t utilize his talents at all, simply because the enemy was strong.

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Zhu Yuanzhang is doing something outrageous, going from a mob of the Yellow Turbans to becoming equivalent to Sun Quan and killing Cao Cao to take over the world…

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Therefore, the significance of Liu Bei becoming the King of Han is extraordinarily great.

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>>47

The grand plan of capturing Xiahou Yuan, the commander of the Wei army and a relative of Cao Cao, at Dingjun Mountain to seize Hanzhong and become the King of Han, while simultaneously Guan Yu attacks from Jingzhou to the Central Plains, is really exciting, isn’t it?

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If it turns into a prolonged war, it is hard to say that the calculation itself is wrong, which suggests that Liu’s imperial country will become stronger than the country of Cao Pi, which has no virtue.

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Zhang Jiao has military control talent comparable to Muhammad.

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If there were a Zhuge Liang power type equivalent to Han Xin and a Zhuge Liang trick type equivalent to Zhang Liang, then perhaps…

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The comparison targets like Muhammad, Zhu Yuanzhang, Liu Bang, and Liu Xiu are way too high of a bar!

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>>51

It’s a story about doing things that you can’t do unless it’s that much.

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>>54

Then Hong Xiuquan would be just right.

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>>51

If we were to find a suitable comparison to Zhang Jiao, it would probably be Zhang Lu.

They were able to make a soft landing over there.

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At the point when Jingzhou was lost, it was already pretty much checkmate, but it was completely checkmate after the Battle of Yiling…

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Cao Cao and Liu Bei are both quite close to death, but they manage to survive, so luck is important.

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If there weren’t any climbers, I could have endured more.

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>>56

The events at MACHI-TEI and DANGANYA reflect the fate of how Shu’s decisive battle was defeated by the mountaineers.

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It’s true that Jiang Wei was reckless in his northern campaigns.

What’s up with Zhuge Liang, who was really good at doing things?

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>>57

There has been a political change! Impulsively launching a northern expedition! Jiang Wei often does this.

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I can’t help but feel that the deterioration of the relationship with Kure was a bit too sudden.

Even if it’s tough to take Shu in the first place, one has to aim for the benefits of the fisherman.

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>>59

Kanzhi’s response is…

Well, the issues related to Jingzhou only have factors that cause disputes.

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>>59

From Wu’s perspective, seeing that both Wei and Shu were exhausted from fighting each other, it was clear that Shu was eager to swoop in, so naturally, they wouldn’t allow that.

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The one who took control of the world from Hanzhong was Liu Bang.

It was Liu Xiu who took control of the world from Hebei.

The one who took control of the world from Jiangnan was Zhu Yuanzhang.

It can’t be helped…

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Well, the Jin dynasty hasn’t properly continued since Sima Yan either!

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I don’t think Zhang Jiao is incompetent, but it feels like it’s practically impossible to transform a great empire like China through religion unless one is comparable to Muhammad…

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Zhang Lu was one who was able to make a soft landing as a warlord.

Religion was also effectively used to control the masses.

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Everyone wants to leave the countryside and go to the city.

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>>69

Even foreign peoples are influenced by Chinese culture.

The city is amazing.

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Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang had good chemistry.

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They are heroes, but compared to those who unify China, they seem smaller in scale.

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That fleeting nature is nice, isn’t it…?

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This is not just some rural area…

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>>72

Gore-type countryside

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I want to see the unmatched Zhang Lu too.

It could serve as a contrast to the fate of Zhang Jiao in this work.

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>>73

I think it’s because they’re mobs that the character traits can change every time without feeling too out of place.

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Still, there are certainly people who were saved by Zhang Jiao…

Maybe I’m the rust on your sword.

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>>76

You know… it feels like those who admired Zhang Jiao would be the ones rushing to the final battle after defeating Zhang Bao…

Sorry… it’s really tough after all…

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The top-tier heroes of Chinese cuisine are just too broken.

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>>77

Zhu Yuanzhang is incredible.

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>>77

It is believed that you can’t unify Chinese culture unless it is completely broken.

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However, while playing 8, I thought that Shu is a remote area in the mountains, and Wu is just a vast countryside.

Despite the talk of the three divisions of the world or the tripartite balance of the three kingdoms, it feels like Wei has already taken control of the world, doesn’t it?

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>>80

Actually, I’m almost taking it.

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Compared to the land’s productivity, Wei occupies about seventy percent.

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I don’t like Chengdu like this~ I don’t like Chengdu like this~

I’m heading out to Nakahara!

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Isn’t it bad not to make Han Zhong your base?

If you settle down in a rural place like Yizhou, won’t that be the end of you?

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Even the rankings of dark rulers tend to be a bit dark or violent.

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>>85

I wonder how it comes to the point where cutting open a pregnant woman’s belly is treated like reaching level 1.

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To become a top tyrant, show that you can be at ease and say that you won’t have trouble surviving with just the remaining territory left to you by your subordinates, even while your enemies are taking over your land.

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Compared to a tyrant who dismisses the loyal retainers favored by the late emperor and inserts his favorites, I think Liu Shan, who relied heavily on Zhuge Liang, may be incompetent but at least he hasn’t done anything unnecessary like that.

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Rather, what was still lacking for Cao Cao?

Is it youth?

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When you finish about 80% of something, you become complacent thinking that the rest will just work out somehow.

Whether it’s Ryuzhou or Wu, they often face rebellions and their plans fail because of their lenient responses after almost destroying them.

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>>89

The thread image and Guan Yu.

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Wei has been taken over by Jin…

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There is a difference as significant as between Wei and Toyotomi, Shu and Shimazu, and Wu and Hojo.

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>>93

If it’s the Warlord Chronicles, Shu Gan would have the advantage…

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It seems that when Zhang Lu sees you, he can see through your true identity.

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Since Wei is too strong, let’s cooperate with Shu and Wu!

Hey… why are Shu and Wu fighting?

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The Sichuan Basin is rich, and that also supported Zhuge Liang’s northern expeditions.

Well, it’s true that it’s rural, so talent flows to the city.

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Even if it can be said that they almost dominated the world, both Cao Pi and Cao Rui died without being able to invade Shu or Wu at all, so it’s hard to say that Wei was unified.

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Rather, since we’re here, we can’t really say things like “the world” or whatever! This is just a strategy to express that…

It’s like even though I can ignore it, if I don’t, my rationale becomes shaky.

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The successful charge to the main camp completely ignored my strategic meeting, but those who did it will appear, so the history of that country is just too diverse.

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>>102

By the way, Li Jing is independently crushing the peace talks.

Well… I will forgive you since we launched a surprise attack on the enemy’s main camp and achieved a complete victory…

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Zhu Yuanzhang is impressive from any angle.

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I’ve heard that the Taiping Dao led by Zhang Jiao is completely different from the Taoism that exists today.

What remains now is the Zhang Lu’s Wudoumi Dao lineage.

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Even the Hongwu Emperor can only be compared to the likes of Emperor Guangwu, Emperor Kangxi, Emperor Li Shimin, and Zhao Kuangyin, so the Chinese monarchs above are also in a mystical realm.

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>>109

It’s a crazy country where the pun emperor is on top.

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It is said that Shu and Wu are weak, but given that they were born and fought for many years, that is impressive.

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The unrivaled Sui and Tang… Li Shimin’s victory ending is the most complete…

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>>111

The Three Kingdoms makes me want to fantasize about “what if,” but in other eras, it would be fine with that guy, right?

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Attacking other countries from Wei is a waste, or rather, a squandering of resources.

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>>113

Regarding the attack on Wu, there is a theory that as the country became larger and the currency became scarce, the copper mines in that area became necessary.

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>>113

If I could just cross the Yangtze! Ugh! It doesn’t really matter to me about the Red Cliffs, but we lost! Ugh!

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>>113

Being attacked is just normally tough, so it’s not really like that.

It’s not like I’m easily bouncing back attacks from the other two countries or anything.

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In the early Han dynasty, there was someone like Huo Qubing, who could do nothing but absolutely kill the Xiongnu.

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