Kuh! What’s wrong, Kiri-chan!? K-Koichi-san!? T-This is the dial for the incoming call test… Is this Tanaka-san’s Hotaru!? Where are you now!? The signal is coming from the hospital!! Quickly bring the child… The connection between Chaksei and Tanaka will be completely revealed in the next issue!!
It’s hard.
What does that mean?
>>2
It’s not an anonymous thread, but this is an illustration of a person who usually talks on the phone with their beloved wife, and it ended up like this after they used the call history from that person’s phone.
>>2
There was someone who usually bragged after receiving a call from their wife.
Actually, the wife had long been killed, and the baby that was in her womb at that time had also died.
It was a revenge demon with a cracked heart.
The butt is amazing.
So you’re saying my wife never existed… That’s really shocking…
Scary…
Martial arts manga turned into horror manga.
That being said, I draw butts.
By the way, the revenge demon dies right after this, having his head smashed into his body by the enemies of his wife and daughter.
>>10
“I’ve earned the right to challenge you, so I’ll make sure to kill you properly!”
>>10
You look really happy, huh?
>>13
It’s a grudge, isn’t it?
Walking away hand in hand into the flames with three people is just…
In the story, the child who was in their cute prime never even existed.
Oh no… how terrifying!
This person’s stories are exceptionally gloomy and have no way out, aren’t they?
The enemy, even the enemy, ultimately ended without any consequences, like a warrior who does not accept fruitless sacrifices.
The person who killed them doesn’t really think much about it since they were just retaliating.
I didn’t realize I was pregnant, so I have to admit that part has caused me some damage.
Well, the root of the matter is that my wife’s father was killed in battle, so it’s definitely my fault.
>>17
Kill the man → The daughter came for revenge, so kill her along with her unborn child → The daughter’s husband came for revenge, so kill him.
…Is that so!?
>>19
I didn’t know I was pregnant when I killed my daughter, and I regret killing an innocent baby who wasn’t even a warrior… so I’m carving a Buddha statue.
In 008, a husband character appears who becomes consumed by revenge after his wife is murdered.
Perhaps the author has that kind of fetish.
Wait, is this that kind of manga!?
My memory is hazy, but I’m sure this chapter ends with the Tanaka family’s visible presence in the amusement park as it burns and explodes, right?
Mr. Tanaka is a very kind and strong person.
That kind of person is actually…
A father whose beloved wife and daughter were killed appears in various works.
Everyone loves broken people, huh?
This technique is like a template for creating stories.
>>25
Just the fact that my master was killed is already a sufficient motive, so don’t add my wife and child on top of that.
A character like the protagonist’s IF route is nice, isn’t it?
The strongest disciple Kenichi, original work by Takemura, illustrated by Matsue Toshi, is currently serialized in “Sunday”, but as a side work…! Seriously, my dad has become…! I might try to become a disciple of martial arts and it’s okay to do so. Never again will I hug my father, “Can you think of me?” Those who wait for his virtues! Carrying the burden of martial arts and waiting for death has indeed left a very painful example! If someone denies my survival, then there is a very clear example of that, and on this path, my mother’s extraordinary resistance has brought it to an end… This is the path I have chosen. If he chooses to remember this… why does this path become a very painful thing? According to my eyes, how should I convey this without falling into despair? Is the path to death one that is left behind?
It’s okay, Kanichi-kun…
That’s not a weight a 20-year-old should carry…!!
It feels like this guy ended up doing whatever he wanted, standing out from the rest in this manga…
It’s the wife’s fault for challenging a death match while pregnant.
>>30
In bullet points, it ends up being a thought like this, but was the wife some kind of Berserker or something?
>>41
You wanted to have a death match because your father was killed right in front of you, and you charged at me in a rage! So I made sure to finish you off with one blow.
>>41
It’s not unnatural to act in rage and challenge someone right after my father was killed by an intruder at the dojo.
When asked if there is a Berserker-like aspect to the fact that I’ve already been having sex with my husband and then immediately rushed in and got killed, well…?
When it gets to this point, even if they put on a warrior’s face, it’s simply bragging about their skills in killing.
I feel like it’s just trash that is pleased with itself and spouting nonsense.
>>31
If you master martial arts and use that technique to the fullest in battle, it’s only natural that the one who loses might end up dead, isn’t it?
I don’t want to kill people; I just want to master my skills as a technician… I might have it easier compared to a life-saving martial art, though.
Well, I set up a dojo in that world and got killed by a dojo challenger, without even a hint of regret.
I immediately challenged and got killed; there was a child in my belly. I feel like there’s no point in crying about it.
Ogata probably doesn’t think that way about the latter either.
>>32
The killing fist doesn’t break the living fist dojo.
A failure of revenge due to a motive like Kindaichi’s is terrible.
Ogata’s way of life is such that accidents like that can happen, so if you really want to be a perfectionist, you’ll end up learning about active living, right?
Even if I were to toughen up, that’s still difficult to accept.
The side that killed is also incredibly regretful and is properly taking responsibility and bearing the burden of their actions.
Don’t act all high and mighty while preaching, you murderer.
>>37
In this world, warriors essentially exist in a world of killing each other…
“Please teach me the secret technique to be with the dojo master’s daughter!” → “There’s no such thing!”
“It’s hot, isn’t it?” → “This is no laughing matter; you’re going to be treated the same way.”
Captain Shirahama was really attached to Tanaka-san, too.
In this episode, we pretty much did everything we wanted to do, and due to the length until the final episode, Ogata’s screen time has noticeably decreased, right?
Since Ogata is a popular character, I can’t kill him here…
I don’t remember if my daughter was aware of her pregnancy, but what do you think?
Well, it’s true that I was doing what I needed to do.
The shock of having killed a baby in my womb has been so overwhelming that I’ve actually secluded myself in the mountains for years, continuing to perform rituals for the baby, so this person is clearly concerned about it to some extent…
>>45
I thought I had made as many mistakes as that number of Buddha statues.
>>98
It’s really serious of Oga-chan to carve that many Buddha statues for just one person.
No, I’m serious, so I end up killing a lot of people for martial arts.
This is one potential possibility for Ken-chan’s future, after all…
>>47
The masters believe it will turn out that way every time without fail.
I’m cramming in with harsh training.
Mr. Tanaka seems like the kind of person who would have been ahead of Ken-chan in his aspirations, if he really had a wife and children.
Ogata was originally supposed to be the number one disciple of Ryōzanpaku.
Both were IF characters of Kanichi Shirahama.
For the time being, regardless of the fact that my wife, who is also a martial artist, approached me as a formidable opponent.
I felt a trauma-level regret because it ended up killing the child in my belly…
I teach my unfinished techniques to my disciple Ryuto and Kanato, using them as test subjects, so I appear handsome and the reasoning seems logical at first glance, but as a person, I’m in the category of scum.
>>50
I’m just fully respecting the will to want to become stronger…
>>50
From the way they are teaching Rimi, it seems they are conveying that she can gain tremendous power, but that it is incomplete and carries significant risks to her body.
Don’t teach such techniques to an inexperienced disciple? Unworthy of being a master?
Yeah!
>>65
That’s why the living person fist begins with building the body.
>>50
If you use this, you might seriously damage your body, you know? I’m telling everyone just in case.
Well, I think they would use it, and they’re just taking data for themselves and reflecting it, but they are only people unrelated to weapons.
I killed a baby… I’m sick…
Ogata is undoubtedly trash, but he somehow manages to create events that might moderately increase his likability…
I can’t bring myself to dislike the fact that I continue to sincerely honor the child that was in my stomach.
Well, first of all, don’t kill people.
>>53
First of all, martial arts are meant to kill people, so there are many who think that if you seriously fight and end up dying, that’s just how it is.
It’s not that common to actively kill.
>>74
Many of this type of killing fists seem to be almost indistinguishable from life-saving fists, and the reverse is likely true as well.
>>86
For example, is it acceptable to call someone who does bad things using martial arts they have acquired, even if they don’t kill, a “living person fist”?
>>89
If you have an attitude like “I haven’t killed anyone, so I can do whatever I want” and you keep attacking people, it seems likely that at some point you’ll end up committing indirect murder.
Even if I had succeeded in my revenge, it can’t be helped that my wife and children won’t come back, but it’s sad to end up losing even in a revenge that I risked my life for.
Nice butt and pants.
Even Hongo-san, who is the biggest fan of the number one disciple in the darkness, has killed people…
Mr. Tanaka is ultimately a genius, so no matter how hard he tries, he won’t be able to reach Ogata…
I like that, even though I was fueled by revenge, I was taught by my master and faced it with a humane fist instead of falling into the killing fist.
You shouldn’t kill people, and even the protagonist in the manga asserts that, but that doesn’t apply to madmen like Ogata.
>>60
The Yami no Mutegumi generally thinks that since everyone progresses on the path of martial arts, it can’t be helped if they end up dying or killing, so it’s not that Ogata is particularly insane.
>>66
According to the official fanbook, both Ogata and Junazard are classified as evil in the darkness, so they are quite close to being madmen.
As long as we fight with all our might, it’s inevitable that the result will end in either one or both deaths.
The existence of such a person is the murder fist.
It’s funny that Kaito is recognized as one of the disciples whose potential was ruined by being taught unnecessary techniques, since his direct mentor is Hongo.
One shadow, nine fists, is about uncle’s older brother and Hongou-san.
What is a master of darkness…? Among many individuals with a strong personality, I like Ogata and Kenma Jashin because they are clearly worthless.
If there are no scoundrels around here, the most cruel master would end up being Master Akiame…
Shidō Gōichi is normally strong, as expected from someone who pushes themselves to the limit.
It may have improved from when I taught my disciples to when I was using it in the final stages.
In the darkness, it seems like Hongo-san, who is seriously haunted by Kaho’s death, is the one who feels out of place…
Ogata is really shocked by the part where he tries hard to play the villain.
It feels like I’ve denied what I thought I was logically reasoning on my own.
It can be said to be the ultimate tragedy of the murder fist, but this author does not simply portray the murder fist as evil.
>>70
If pursuing martial arts means dying, then so be it… that feeling is hard to deny.
The protagonists absolutely do not agree to that.
What is going on with the law?
>>72
Expert Politician!
There is indeed something charming about being human… I was excited to be accepted as a disciple of a superhuman, but was turned down due to my lack of humanity, so I trained hard on my own to become a master, yet even now I still find myself disliking it.
>>75
Kaaah! 
>>75
I will separate religion and politics!
Die in misery!
Die miserably!
Ogata believes that when it comes to martial arts, gender and age don’t matter, so there’s no remorse for the people he has personally engaged with, and it’s cruel.
I ended up killing an innocent baby, which went against my beliefs and has become a trauma for me.
Kenichi’s active killing is either a murder fist or not, and it feels like it’s separate from other alignments.
The principle of the living fist is simply not to kill, but if one slips up or acts in a way similar to Ogata, it’s still categorized as outside the path.
By the way, if Ogata keeps beating people up with the Living Fist without killing them, he might end up kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach and carving a Buddha statue someday.
>>81
Ogata is an oddity among the murder fist enthusiasts who love duels and fights, as he is only interested in martial arts itself.
I was thoroughly conscious of not killing, trying my best to avoid it.
I think once you kill one person, you’ll definitely lose control.
After Niijima joined, what about that figure! Those people should be fine too! I like that scene where they interpreted it slightly differently.
Thanks to what you said, I think the feelings of Kahn-chan and the others who were present at that moment were greatly comforted.
Even at Liangshan Marsh, there are aspects where the autumn rain can bring about revival, similar to the Giri’s Vitality Fist…
Even though there is a master like Apachai, who has grown in the precision of his techniques by learning how to hold back and not kill Kenichi…
I once mistakenly thought that the master of that guy who uses the Shirakawa technique was Ogata until I read it properly in the paperback.
I like the person who organized the disciple tournament and the person who is casually participating in it.
I like people who casually participate in the disciple tournament.
Elder, huh?
>>91
That person is self-taught in X, so they’re different.
I think Ken-chan’s nonchalant attitude is getting quite close to that of a madman.
>>93
Ken-chan, I resemble you.
It’s fine to fight with all your might, but it’s quite selfish to die because of it…
>>95
I don’t actively do anything unethical, but isn’t it acceptable if we both fight with mutual consent and as a result, one of us ends up dead? In that sense, it could be considered a fair relationship and makes sense.
>>96
I can’t help but feel that challenging a weakened opponent due to illness and killing them may not have been consensual…
It is a question of how far consent and understanding go.
I think that the living fist only becomes viable at a level above special A rank, so it’s always in danger of extinction.
If you are weaker than the Killing Fist, you will be eliminated immediately.
Once the elder dies, it will become dangerously unstable all at once.
>>102
The killing fist cannot survive under the law, so one side will not be exterminated.
In the story, the Kobba Dojo also aligned with the Living Man Fist normally.
I’ve been secluded in the mountains for 10 years, so I’ve stopped directly training Odin and Hermit right after picking them up.
>>103
Kaneichi Shirahama, huh… an interesting kid has shown up. It’s been a while since I’ve come down from the mountain! It’s going to get quite heavy.
Continuing to run a dojo means you want to fight!
I think Ken-chan will barely hold on even if Miu-san dies.
Well, even though you’re on your deathbed, I respected the fact that by fighting against a master, your skills will continue to live on within my school.
Counting method or similar
If you choose to fight on your own, then it’s your responsibility no matter what happens, but it’s wrong to kill before it comes to that.
Elder, how old are you?
Kan-chan unconsciously provokes the opponent and it turns into a fight.
When I treat my opponent to a drink, it somehow makes them angry and leads to a fight.
It seems that disciples resemble their masters.
It’s quite a restricted playstyle, isn’t it, the Katsu-jin-ken?
>>116
Not killing but understanding each other basically means winning every single battle, right?
I long for it!
>>117
You need to be at a level where you can either completely overpower your opponent or not even let them enter the arena of battle.
It’s a tree that questions whether it will evolve as a technology or be refined through practice…
However, this topic is also a reason why I came to like Ogata.
One cannot hate someone who is thorough, for better or worse.
I didn’t hear that there were lives that couldn’t even make a choice after being warned and fulfilling the courtesy of martial arts…
I seriously messed up… I carved a Buddha statue…
I don’t want to take risks! If I say that, I understand!
Let’s cram in the basic training vigorously! That’s the type of person I am, like Ogata.
Leaving this guy’s prepared disciple organization alone is quite a thing.
I really appreciate being saved by Ogata, but Ken-chan insists that our paths should separate.
Ogata understands that it’s an incredible talent, but it’s a different path from hers.
We’re really understanding each other.
>>125
Well… I have a feeling that Ken-chan’s stance, which holds that martial arts exist to protect the inner voice of goodness and important people, is a new breeze in the martial arts world that differs from ours, but his talent is at the level of Euglena…
If you don’t want to die or get killed, then don’t be a martial artist in this world, right?
Since we’ve taken on the challenge, it feels like we have to do it, yeah…
I mean, isn’t this person broken due to the shock of having their baby die?
The path of the Living Man’s Fist is tough; I showed it to Ken-chan and the deceased mentor.
It seems like it was a huge shock because I was dedicated to the work of atonement, abandoning my dark job.
The matter with Mr. Tanaka and his wife isn’t that outrageous, but I’ll do anything! When I say, “Make me stronger!” they really start teaching me some seriously dangerous techniques that could lead to a quick death.
>>130
They are probably doing it out of goodwill.
Regarding dying or not dying during training, Kenichi has also had his heart stop multiple times.
Because he responds to any request and determination from his disciples.
With risk included
It feels like a bad ending route for the life Ken-chan would walk.
Basically, that disciple also doesn’t kill anyone other than the opponent who says, “I want to become stronger even if I die!”
Look, Ken-chan, I’m watching the super huge foundation construction that is nearing completion. It’s making me want to cultivate this ridiculous material even more! That’s why I love training my disciples.
Not just visible talent is martial arts! In fact, Shirahama-kun has become stronger, or so one might say.
I haven’t read Kenichi, but does the uncle who lost his wife and child get saved…?
>>139
The best thing is to read and interpret it yourself!
Ken doesn’t obviously have talent, but the greatness of his mentality and the outrageous improvements from his intensive training to compensate for his lack of talent are incredible…
I think the root is good, even though there is a strong ideology related to martial arts.
I’m becoming more and more entangled in the ideas I’ve created myself.
Even if you say you are carving a statue for the murdered baby,
So I think it’s just an act of self-satisfaction since it doesn’t change my purpose.
>>142
I won’t bend my will, I just remind myself not to do what is not good.
>>142
Rather, I think I’m the type who gets more determined to move forward the more the sacrifices increase, as I can’t afford to waste them.
A mad scientist character who is earnest about science.
I think the checklist for challenges against female martial artists will increase in the future.
Are you not carrying a child?! Are you prepared to involve that child’s life as well?!
>>146
It’s serious and important, but it’s a bit too perverted…
>>146
Father’s revenge!!!!!!
It’s usually not such a depressing manga, but this part is really dark.
Martial arts originally refer to techniques for killing opponents, and martial arts that do not have the intent to kill directed at the opponent are rather an insult to them.
>>150
I’m getting attacked…
It’s not that he’s a loser; he’s got principles… It’s not that he uses his disciples and discards them for his own purposes; he gets really happy when his disciples grow.
Finally, my disciple has come to kill me!
Great growth is being achieved! I’m so happy!
That aside, I will also do my best to intercept!
When it comes to the topic of not killing people, it really hits home for Kenichi’s masters as well.
>>155
Waka Nyu
The elder who can say that after killing so much, there was nothing there, is just too strong.
Hmm! This Ken-chan’s sparkle is nice… It’s just like me!
Rather than ending up taking a life in a duel
Isn’t it more problematic to kill a disciple during training?
>>158
It’s such a waste…
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