
They may want to reduce costs by combining it with the sub-flight system.
I feel like it will end up costing more money.
>>1
Since it’s Anaheim, I wonder if they’re trying to spend even more money.
The MS division is probably in a period where it’s not making profits anymore since large-scale wars are no longer happening.
I can fly at Mach speed and make sudden stops in mid-air with crazy maneuvers…
The sub-flight system can’t ultimately perform the nimble movements typical of MS.
First of all, the Penelope, which adopted Minofsky particles, was developed with the involvement of Kenneth from the Federation Army, so it is not entirely at Anaheim’s convenience.
Although aerial combat has been significantly excluded, in SFS, we can only use the grasshopper tactic.
If SFS gets crushed, it will just be a target, so if it’s prioritized and aimed at, it’s the end.
Hathaway was completely ignoring it and took out two enemies, crushing them in that area.
Isn’t it something that comes from the idea that a federation could be more convenient, like something similar to a Byalan?
First of all, the sub-flight system is fundamentally different from the aircraft that can move freely in the air and engage in combat, as it is originally designed for transportation.
>>8
It’s like asking why a tank being transported by train can’t avoid bullets.
Does G have a feature that can alleviate that?
Since the main force on the Mafti side is Galcezon + Messer, having Penelope, which can fly freely, should have given them a significant advantage.
>>11
Isn’t the Anaheim Company that made the Kshatriya on the Mafty side a crappy company?
>>18
It seems that the order was placed under the name of a federal official, just in case…
>>18
It’s a different company within Anaheim, to begin with.
If MS can fly, we don’t need SFS.
Jumping with clogs → fighting while falling → returning to clogs, so staying in human form while flying freely is a bit strong.
In the Z movie, the mobility of the SFS is unreliable to the point that it can drop immediately.
Because it’s pulled by gravity when abandoned.
I think it would be nice to be able to float around freely without worrying about airtime or SFS.
The two machines flying around with Minovsky Craft in Hathaway’s Flash are too huge.
Do they really need to go that far to make it fly?
>>15
If you go out, you’ll have more leeway with the payload.
These guys’ rifles are at launcher level compared to other MS.
If we bomb the hangar before deployment, there will be no damage taken.
In Another, it flies quite easily, but in the Universal Century, it took an unusually long time, right?
>>16
In Another, I think it’s just like that even if they’re flying without any particular reason.
In the Universal Century, there needs to be a proper reason for MS to fly in the sky…
The reason for the widespread use of Minocura machines is due to the reduction of warships caused by the disarmament of the federal army and the need for intercontinental cruising capability within the atmosphere with a single MS.
Having thrust at your feet is simply imbalanced.
It’s more dangerous for Anaheim to receive orders under an individual’s name.
I’m making it on behalf of the federation.
Recently, even the Argama has been made by skimming off the Federation’s funds.
The competitor against SFS is TMS…
TMS has perished…
I don’t understand the question about why it’s strange to launch something big.
It will be large because it is also used for bombing purposes.
Basically, bigger ones can have higher performance.
If you manufacture with the same technological level during the period when small aircraft became widespread, larger ones can be made stronger.
In the end, increasing firepower can’t prevent size from becoming larger.
You’re great because you’re really fast.
Because the strongest class Zannek and Gengaozo from the Universal Century have reverted to rank 18.
I don’t think Kenneth, who permits gunfire in urban areas for the sake of defeating Mafty, would compromise on performance if he were involved in MS development.
Q8 How do the Ξ Gundam and Penelope differ from previous mobile suits?
You can fly within the atmosphere.
■Minovsky Flight
Based on the Minovsky Craft, which once made it possible for spacecraft like the White Base to navigate on Earth, this is an improved and miniaturized version.
The Odysseus Gundam was the first mobile suit to be equipped with the FF unit, and it was further miniaturized and implemented inside its sister unit, the Ξ Gundam.
This has made high-speed maneuvers possible within the atmosphere, creating a presence that conventional mobile suits, which cannot fly without the use of sub-flight systems, cannot compete with.
“Monthly Gundam Ace” August 2021 Special Supplement “Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway’s Flash Official Booklet” Page 26
C Creation – Sunrise
>>34
Did it take about 26 years to miniaturize?
The small size ended up compromising the rigidity, as a single punch could crush the cockpit.
>>35
Those guys have tougher armor than the fifth generation like Ξ.
The Minovsky Flight, improved from the floating device that could only be mounted on battleships, has become capable of independent flight, which is an incredible advantage.
>>37
Well, it’s written that it can’t compete with the old-style novels.
>>37
(Then start energy-saving flight with the rotor)
I often see kind people who write with references frequently in the Gundam-related threads, but are they just bored?
Thinking that psychics have become miniaturized and can fly around at high speeds, I believe this is quite a success in miniaturization as well.
The “Hardigan Night Raid,” classified as NR type, is an airborne drop mobile suit developed based on data obtained from the RGM-111Y2 <G Custom>.
This machine belongs to a lineage of fifth-generation mobile suits that aims to advance the operational concept of the MSA-0120 and achieve the proposition of full-domain invasion by a single mobile suit.
In other words, it is a tactical concept to carry out supersonic incursions using Minovsky flight units and then transition directly to aerial or ground combat upon arrival.
As a unit of the Federation Forces, it is a night assault type airborne mobile suit serving as the successor to the RGM-79V (Jim Night Seeker).
This assumes a low-intensity conflict under the “disappearance of war” after the dissolution of the Zeon Republic.
It can be said that it is a weapon designed to quickly suppress terrorists who have risen up with a haphazard collection of MS and MW, like Mafty and his followers, rather than being a regular army of Zeon.
Gundam Ace March 2024 Issue, Page 385
Monthly Mobile Machine Miniature Edition VOLUME 18 RGM-111NR Hardigan Night Raid
Issued on January 26, 2024.
C Creative Communication / Sunrise
It’s a bit of a fine line to say it’s official.
As a last-ditch effort against the proposal for the small MS that was carried out in UC102 in the Master Archive.
There was an explanation that suggested they might have given the large, super high-performance MS to Mafty to provoke a sense of crisis in the Federation and demonstrate demand.
>>42
Doesn’t it say at the beginning every time that Masaka differs from the official setting of Sunrise?
Minovsky flight is amazing! That’s a given, but when you think about it, it’s really impressive that SFS can have MS fly in the atmosphere with something so thin.
Reducing ships through disarmament and increasing the things that can be done by a single MS instead.
It feels like misplaced priorities…
>>45
The reality is also progressing towards multi-role, right?
“Exceeding Mach with bombing in F90, adding range and using psychoframe.”
The A+B+I+N pack will be fully stacked, and Ξ is more compactly organized.
A yokai has come.
Neither the Ξ nor the Penelope feels particularly difficult to fly, as their main body weight is less than 40 tons despite their size.
When I see Gundam from other universes, it seems that in the Universal Century they go through a lot of stages just to fly in the air…
>>51
If we equip a nuclear thermal jet engine, Zeon would be able to fly around even with a time limit, but as for the Federation…
Attaching a beam barrier to SFS seems a bit unreasonable, doesn’t it?
>>52
There is an invincible SFS that can deploy beam shields on both sides.
It’s called Ainrad.
Basically, existing mobile suits pretend to be flying by making a big jump and then falling.
A transforming machine that looks like a fighter jet and doesn’t need SFS (but loses the advantages of its limbs instead).
A flight device that balances the advantages of limbs and aerial combat capability.
It’s like that kind of image.
Arms reduction and the transformation into multi-role capabilities in single platforms are phenomena observed in real-world weapons as well…
If I had a full-body Psycho Frame, I could fly…
>>56
The unicorn is also caught by gravity in destructoid mode.
I’m being pulled really hard in the Garuda aerial battle.
>>59
If it turns green, it should be fine.
Seeing the Daguzagilboajinmen flying without any driving force
>>65
That’s because it’s space or a colony, right?
>>56
I don’t know if a unicorn can be made, let alone a phenex.
It’s impossible within the range of the UC storyline.
>>56
Since newtype power is essential, it can’t be relied upon as a weapon!
If we can mass-produce enhanced humans with that inhumane thing, then it might be possible.
I wonder if they can’t make beam rotors with the technology available at this time.
It seems like that is quite useful.
>>57
First, if you can’t create a beam shield, you can’t make a beam rotor, right?
>>57
Based on the explanation, it’s probably difficult because it’s an evolved form of the beam shield.
If it’s around UC120, there might have been a possibility for some genius to suddenly create it.
Without a beam shield like F91, it’s impossible to use a beam rotor.
I don’t know the reason why beam shields couldn’t be developed until the 120th century.
No comments about how it’s super advanced technology to be flying in the sky with a Gouf on top of a Dodai.
>>66
That’s true.
If it’s Hathaway the terrorist, I don’t mind, but putting it on a battleship makes this size a nuisance… I feel like it might become like that.
>>69
First, let’s make a new model that can accommodate this size.
Since I can fly on my own, it makes sense to use the base, right?
>>69
Penelope transmits from the base on the ground, so you can rest assured.
Penelope (movie version) → Made supersonic invasion possible with Minovsky Flight Unit and transformation (does not have beam barrier equipped)
Ξ Gundam (movie version) → Enabled supersonic invasion with the Minovsky Flight Unit and Beam Barrier.
MSA-0120 → Minovsky Flight Unit + Mega Boost for All-Domain Invasion
Hardigan Night Raid → Supersonic invasion using Minovsky Flight Unit and all-area invasion (no mention of beam barrier presence)
>>70
I don’t know the initial settings of MSA-0120, but now it’s equipped with Minoflare, so it can fly normally.
If it’s limited to within the atmosphere, its mobility even surpasses that of the MS from the V era.
>>71
The setting has changed, but all models after F91 are equipped with Minoflare, right?
>>71
Even F91 is said to be unable to win if it’s definitely within the atmosphere.
>>77
Even if F91 was equipped with Minofsky, it wouldn’t be able to achieve speed.
Beam barrier or
>>86
If the Hardigan Nightraid can go supersonic, then doesn’t a small mobile suit not need a beam barrier?
>>89
Penelope in the movie can also break the sound barrier without a beam barrier.
>>89
Night Raid is based on type A, which is said to have a cruising speed greater than F91, so it’s probably faster than F91.
But since Dagza Gilboa is flying inside the colony, there are some subtle aspects that make it somewhat unreliable as a depiction.
Has the F91 Minos Dra problem been settled already?
>>73
Yes
There was no such thing.
The Federation in this era denies the existence of NT, so wouldn’t they not create full psycho-frame machines based on NT?
To enter a state of awakening, it is necessary to have a psycho frame and further resonance, or rather, a green color.
I always need things like Shunanzii and Banshee nearby.
You might think that saying “to fly in the sky” is the same thing, but what Minokura is doing with SFS is an incomprehensible maneuver like a UFO, compared to the extension of a real airplane.
>>83
It’s Minofura, right?
The beam rotor is a technology comparable to Minofra in the work, but it doesn’t look very good…
>>87
Well, most MS after F91 don’t look good, do they?
Even without reaching the God Corn level, discussing specs or performance at the point of the Awakened Unicorn is rather unsophisticated.
In a normal NT-D state, free flight is not possible within the atmosphere.
The difference in completion level between Zanskar and this is like heaven and earth.
Jupiter has made something that looks somewhat like it in Elkopute, just in case.
It’s a useless item that only functions as a shield and can only be used in conjunction with an actual rotor.
Contrary to the image, MS that cannot fly under gravity are at a disadvantage compared to fighter jets…
>>93
If you put it that way, I see…
It certainly seems more flexible in anti-air combat than a tank, but being unable to fly puts it at a disadvantage…
>>93
Taking the high ground is simply strong, isn’t it?
>>124
A noble’s goldfish MS… what is that?
Even though there are no beam rotors, couldn’t it be possible to float like a current drone with a rotor-equipped bit?
If I use psycho-communication for bit manipulation, wouldn’t I be able to control it fairly well?
They’re repeatedly calling for a beam rotor, but could it be that Takekoputā-kun is here?
>>96
Has another unknown idiot increased?
>>96
What is that? I don’t know.
Among the 8 replies that come up when searching for beam rotor, the initial question and the bit-related stuff are from me, but the others are just answering that question, right?
If we have to make the ships big to match the huge MS, the costs are going to be outrageous…
>>126
Shut up! Don’t make fun of the sense of the Cosmo nobility!
>>99
That’s more of a sense of the common people than of nobility.
>>115
I don’t know if it’s because practicality is prioritized over appearance…
First, let’s strengthen our space defense so that we don’t have to fight in the atmosphere.
The setting becomes ridiculous when you’re already launching Mach-level attacks in the first place.
>>101
It’s surprising that it hasn’t been addressed yet, considering that there wasn’t that setting.
>>101
If there was technology to achieve Mach 5, it would seem easy to create a flying mobile suit.
Ah~ this thread is going to get summarized, huh?
When I call out “Unicorn!!!” it’s incredible to think it will come flying, but that place is already at the level of a “robot that comes when called” so…
It feels like I can prioritize the visuals over logic with this psychopower, so it’s not very helpful as a reference.
>>107
The reasoning is that the banana-flavored pilot suit is linked to the unicorn, so it can be summoned through normal psychokinetic control, but as a presentation, it feels more like responding to the master’s call…
Please don’t summarize my response when I’m on guard.
What’s with the people fighting some random unknown troll?
Those who do not know about the taketombo (bamboo copter) are happy.
I wonder why strange things gather when it comes to official images, unrelated to Gundam.
At this point, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a Minofrasre or not, I’m just constantly wall-hitting the beam rotarga.
It’s the usual V-Gun fanatic, right?
(Why are we suddenly talking about Doraemon…?)
During the One Year War, I imagine that a fighter jet with a form that makes you think “Can you really fly that???” might have been able to carry auxiliary crafts.
The movable limbs are so numerous that there’s no room for internal components, which is why it took so long to equip them on the MS.
>>123
Under this way of thinking, one could also consider that the movable framing of MS has in turn eliminated the possibility for internal space.
Well, most mobile suits after F91 don’t look good, do they?
Noble goldfish MS… what is that?
When do F91 haters sleep?
You’re always here, day and night.
The Federation didn’t think about making a Dodai, did they?
Is it because it didn’t perform well on the battlefield that it wasn’t developed?
>>128
Haven’t you been making it normally since Z?
>>129
Was there?
I’m sorry, I only vaguely remember… I’m glad if the usefulness of the Dodaigata is recognized.
I like how MS looks like a knight riding.
>>128
Isn’t the federal side using something similar?
>>128
During the One Year War, weren’t they overwhelmed with the mass production of the GMs?
It’s a time when we are in a hurry to mass-produce the MS.
>>128
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>>128
It’s like saying you haven’t watched the entire Z’s ground version at all.
>>128
When fighting in the air with a Z, it’s almost entirely reliant on the Dodai, whether it’s Rick Dias or Dijeh.
It’s crazy how it has miniaturized from the thread image to Zorin sole and then to a toll-free number in just a few years.
>>132
And to Night Raid…
The Byalan looks like it’s flying, but it’s not actually flying, or rather, it’s the Byalan.
>>133
That’s also a vehicle that flies with a great thrust.
It seems that the idea of a “large combat aircraft that can carry and transport things on top” as a force linked to MS didn’t come up during the One Year War.
The appearance of the Doda prompted the development to begin in a hurry, but by that time Zeon had already withdrawn from Earth, so it never saw the light of day during the war or something like that.
>>137
G…G Fighter…
I feel like I was also piloting a Core Booster or a Core Fighter.
>>139
Ah, they were definitely there.
Let’s correct the delusion in my mind that we reached the stage of actual deployment but couldn’t make it to large-scale mass production.
If you wanted aerial combat during the One Year War, wouldn’t it have been better to use fighter jets?
After the One Year War ended, as a result of military downsizing, they might have wanted to rely entirely on MS, which is why they introduced the base jabber.
>>138
Until the time when Gundam starts fighting against aircraft, there was a recognition that MS (Mobile Suits) were at a disadvantage even when compared to aircraft.
Ultimately, although it will be swept away by the trend of multi-role machines, the aircraft is strong enough to create variable machines.
There was equipment like a hang glider, right?
It seems that using SFS would be more convenient than using Midia for early deployment of MS.
You can fight just like that.
Can MSA0120 fly?
Speaking of flight during the One Year War, isn’t it amazing that the Gouf Flight Type could fly in that era?
>>143
It’s not even reaching the level of flying; it’s just being forced to fly.
After all, seeing it like this, a transformable mobile suit that can change shape and carry allies is really appealing…
As a result, an infinite number of failures and ephemeral flowers of the era will emerge…
I really love the MS group that has been nicely finished by reabsorbing the Titans’ technology that appears around CCA and UC.
The problem is that it’s clear it will decline afterward…
Bailaran
Titans side mobile suit.
It is a prototype manufactured in Kilimanjaro, and it was not mass-produced.
It is the first model suit that enabled flight on Earth without the need for deformation or support subsystems.
However, since the propellant is small, it is not suitable for long-distance flights, and the armor is also weak.
Features a giant vernier thruster.
Can be used in space.
The pilot is Lieutenant Jellid Mesa. (Episodes 36 and onward)
Flight thermal nuclear jet.
It can be moved and the direction can be changed.
Newtype Special Edition 100% Collection Vol. 4 Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam Mechanical Edition ② 88 pages
Issued on November 20, 1986.
c Japan Sunrise / Sotsu Agency
>>149
Did the thermonuclear jet lose to the Minovsky flight?
>>161
In the end, if we’re flying with a jet, it’s a humanoid combat machine after all…
Variable machines are mass-produced, but combination machines and transformable machines like the G Defender aren’t produced in large numbers.
I like the idea of being able to combine and fly, so I like the direction of something like Super Gundam.
I don’t actually know if it can fly because it’s not used on the ground.
I’m teary-eyed over the lack of recognition for their activities, but Anku’s great, right…?
>>152
Successfully reduced costs by integrating Asshimar’s technology and increasing shared parts with Jegan! Also available for use as SFS!
It’s a model that has nothing but great features, yet it doesn’t get much action…
Is the Byalan a great machine…?
>>154
I’m sorry, but
I understand what you want to do, but it’s a work of ambition that came too early for its time.
I think it’s about that much!
>>154
It rarely gets a chance to shine, but it’s probably a great machine.
>>154
I believe that the MS capable of solo flight without deformation during that period is over-technology.
There is no great machine called Byalan.
Aren’t you just forcefully making it fly away like a human?
Considering the era it was created, the Zorin sole is the most insane.
>>162
A ridiculous machine that would still be viable in the 2000s if it follows the original work.
The solo flight MS is just being forced to fly anyway…
Why won’t you acknowledge me…?
The mature feel around Rizel Anksu Gustaf Carl is irresistible.
Well, the performance is a different story…
The custom direct line of the Metas + Z lineage, Rezel, and the lineage of Ashmar, Anksha, and Byalan.
These guys are good, right…?
Isn’t it about time we see the lineage of Gaplan and Gabthley?
I feel a sense of romance in the aircraft and technology that, while closely resembling a reinvention later on, have become disconnected in their lineage.
It’s like saying that Zakspeed is not a time-space criminal…
It’s sad that there are so many amazing-looking machines born from the technology of existing models, but they don’t come out afterwards.