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[Mobile Suit Gundam] Although it may be masked by a martial arts-like atmosphere reminiscent of Dozle, he has the highest kill score in the story with nuclear attacks, poison gas attacks, and the final blow of dropping a colony.

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1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:13

Is this also the one who planned it?

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:14

Mineva Massacre perpetrator

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:17

I feel like there was a work where Ramba Ral commented that it’s not something a warrior would do, but I can’t remember which one it was.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:22Yeahx8

>>3>>3I will go along with the plan to bring an early end to the war with Gihren in Origin, but I will ...
I will go along with the plan to bring an early end to the war with Gihren in Origin, but I will get into a fight with Ral.
I was feeling unwell after the execution.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:24Yeahx7

>>5Ah, that’s it! Thank you.
I think I saw it in the anime version.

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:25

>>5Aren’t you not suited to be a soldier?

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:42

>>3Isn’t it something you shouldn’t make into a soldier?
In any case, if you have a decent sense, that’s how it will turn out.
Dozle also got sick.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:19Yeahx5

Wasn’t the planning of the strategy mostly Gilren’s doing?

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:25Yeahx1

It’s already close to the Odessa Day, and on top of that, he’s prioritizing personal feelings by allocating forces for Garma’s revenge and trying to send the latest models to the Ral squad…

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:26

I supported the Zeonic Company with this face, huh…

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:28

This guy was also against the integrated maintenance plan.

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:29Yeahx8

Warrior x
Muscle brain ◯

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:33Yeahx18

Crying about how I killed billions of Minerva with the colony drop isn’t suited for a Zeon soldier.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:45Yeahx2

>>12The third son said, “That’s not what the prince meant… I didn’t intend for that…”
The eldest son also felt guilty.
Who would you say is suited for it?

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:46

>>25It’s not so much about being suited for it, but more about doing it.

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:47Yeahx10

>>25Of course, it’s the eldest daughter.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:48Yeahx2

>>25Lady Kycilia… maybe…

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:34Yeahx1

Huh? I’m a soldier who completely upholds the traditions of the Zabi family, you know?

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:36

What was I trying to do with this again?

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:38Yeahx3

>>14British Operation

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:41

>>18“Does it include everything up to making the colony in the sky?”

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:42Yeahx1

>>14The preliminary stage of injecting poison gas into Side 2 Hatte before dropping it.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:36

A military commander’s job is to do ruthless things.

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:36Yeahx6

It’s hard to deny that we’re ultimately part of the Zabi family since we’ve done what we’ve done, but well, relatively speaking, we’re on the better side.

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:37Yeahx13

The inner self is certainly kind, but that kindness clearly distinguishes between friend and foe, allowing one to become ruthlessly simple in order to protect allies, which makes them unsuited as a commander for such operations, though they have talent.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:40Yeahx5

Dropping a colony is something we shouldn’t do…

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:46Yeahx1

>>19However, if we don’t do this, we won’t be able to compete due to the disparity in national power, and the federal army won’t come to the negotiating table either…

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:47Yeahx6

>>29If you’re going to do it, please win!

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:42

Speaking of which, I was assigned to guard the falling colony.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:42

Personally, having my subordinate’s daughter as a mistress is what diminishes my reputation the most.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:45

>>23Are you a mistress?

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:44

A muscle-brained guy falls in love with a girl who seized the principal’s office during a student coup and confesses his feelings.

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:46

What was the aura of this person that Amuro saw?

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:51

>>28I think it might be the madness of war, just before death.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:53Yeahx4

>>28“Even a person with a personality like Dozle can be transformed into a murderer, a soldier, by the demon known as the battlefield.”

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:56

>>28Thinking about what I’ve done, I feel like I’ve carried something like that.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:49

The Marine Corps that was served cold rice.

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:49

Origin’s Dozul was originally timid, passive, and serious, being a moderate conservative, but because Sasuro was killed right in front of him…

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:51

But if you’re going to demand independence from a ruler with a national power disparity that exceeds tenfold, you need to do at least that much to win…
And half of the total population died, and the dead were terrified by their own actions.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:53

>>35Damn you, Zeon army… diligently having sex to achieve a V-shaped recovery in population.
This is Operation V.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:58

>>37It’s a shame that the population, which had increased so much, has now decreased…

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:55

It seems that women of Zeon are skilled at using poison… right, Lady Cima?

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:57Yeahx9

>>39I didn’t know!

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:56

There was a turning point where everyone couldn’t turn back.
It must be the death of Brother Sasuro for Dozle.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:58

What are the elements of the massacre in Dozle?

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:00

>>44Isn’t it something related to colony drops?

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:38Yeahx1

>>46I’m destroying colonies regardless of the colony drop.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)16:59

The portrayal in the anime makes the character seem impressive, but that’s probably not the case, right?
When I first saw it, I thought, “Is this how he interacts with his subordinates? With such a devilish aura!?”

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:02

There are people who follow, but this guy is also from the Zabi family.
In the first place, this guy was taking the daughter of the Kahn family as his mistress just like Gihren, and that complicates things like the subsequent rise of Axis.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:02

In the play, it’s good that they say the number of battles is important and that they can make the decision to retreat from Solomon.
I wonder why you decided to go all out there.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:15Yeahx1

>>48If you’re retreating, then there’s the lord, isn’t there?

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:04

In Matsunaga’s manga, which isn’t widely discussed, Marlene Khan was the type with a stronger love for Dozle.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:05

I think it’s pretty messed up that at the beginning of each episode, they show the battleship firing at the colony, and just that alone probably results in a significant number of civilians being massacred.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:06

I want to believe that Dozul from Origin is not involved with concubines or anything like that.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:07

I remember this guy making the Maharaja’s daughter infatuated with him at the party, then taking her as a mistress and later as a concubine, but is it different in the media?

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:09

He’s a true handsome guy.

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:10

Most people don’t know, but half of humanity is really something else.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:11

>>54We need to reduce the remaining 40%…

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:19

>>54But humanity in that world, which skyrockets to billions in just a few years from there, is amazing.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:12Yeahx5

I destroyed the colony and died a lot.
Many people died when the colony fell.
The environment went haywire, disasters occurred, and epidemics spread, resulting in a lot of deaths.
Total! Half of humanity!
It was depicted in Origin, but it’s too scary.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:16

>>57It’s quite a mystery that the leftist Yassan has a harsh stance towards the weak side, the Principality of Zeon.

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:16Yeahx7

Minerva is cute… too cute… Everyone has something as precious as Minerva… I have killed millions of Minervas! I like that part.
I like the feeling of “Ah, they are weak for not being able to protect what is important!” that comes with the shift in the way of saying it.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:20

>>60I like the feeling that this area has been engulfed by the madness of war.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:18

The federal side has taken care to let those who can only run away escape when the victory or defeat is decided, right?

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:19

Is this the concubine’s thing?
Is this the concubine's thing?

Oh, what a beautiful daughter! One night, I attended the Zabi family’s ball with my 16-year-old eldest daughter, Malesha… A few days later, I was approached by Dozle, who wanted to hire Marlene as a live-in maid at my residence, a request I had to refuse. At that time, I was already in a situation where I could not reject the offers from the Zabi family, and with a heavy heart, I offered my daughter. However, she was merely a maid in name; in reality, Malesha was treated almost like a concubine…

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:23

>>62It was creepier than I thought and I couldn’t handle it.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:26

>>62Is it Masahiro Nakai?

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:19

The discussion about concubines has been around since the time of the novel Z by the young prince…

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:23

The Gundam at the expo is set in a world where a great war occurred, resulting in a lot of deaths and subsequent recovery, but the fact that the space construction mechs appearing are basically controlled by pseudo-personality AI makes me feel softly that the population has still not fully returned.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:23

It’s terrible that it’s already certain that that world will be terrible for thousands of years to come.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:25

>>68We’ve learned that the peace in our world has only lasted about a century at most…

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:24Yeahx4

Um… 16 years old…

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:24

Dozle is a hands-on leader and excels as a military commander, but he is narrow-minded and inflexible, which results in slow political judgment, making him consistently poor as a politician.
The compatibility with the reverse Kishiria is the worst.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:26

I personally don’t want to make the setting of Dozle having a mistress or lover too official in the manga.
That said, treating him as a good person throughout the Zabi family feels off.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:27

>>72A sense that an ordinary person has become distorted due to the war.

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:27

Is the mistress from the manga of Z Gundam by Kitazume?

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:27Yeahx2

I don’t think Dozle is written as a good person.
Good or bad, unlike their faces, that family has a somewhat decent sense of values.

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:27

Prideful aspirations are wonderful, but if you expect others to share them and they do not, then…
The “I don’t care if I die” mindset is indeed a nuisance for the Zabi family.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:30Yeahx1

Minerva is the child of the official wife, right?

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:30

>>79It’s great that you take after your mother!

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:30

They’re not a bad person, but… you know.
It settles into an evaluation like that.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:31

I like the relationship with Gilen.

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:32

Mineva is the child of the legitimate wife, and after the legitimate wife passed away, she was entrusted to a concubine, with her original family, the Kahn family, becoming her guardians.

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:34Yeahx1

Dozru is aware that he is not smart and works as a soldier.
So if Ghiren says to do it, then I’ll do it.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:36

>>84Garma was also planning on that, after all.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:34

If it were a royal family or political group that aimed for complete independence from the Earth Federation with the whole family putting their heart and soul into it.
Well, it’s easy to understand that they might become these kinds of people…

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:43

>>85No… it’s not about independence, but rather world domination.

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:36

It was sad to see Deggin being treated so poorly.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:38Yeahx1

>>87Honestly, it resembles me the most…

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:42

>>87As evidence, there are theories regarding Sasuro and the picture thread that suggest they could be children of a concubine, either existing or not existing.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:51

>>87Even Gihren was irritated by his father’s indifference…

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:53

>>107Kishiria was careless until the end, and Ghiren, in his own way, is sweet to his family.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:56

>>87Still, the one who understands Dozle the most is Dad.
Giren says things like it would be good for Degwin to escape from Solomon, but Degwin understands that there’s no way he can escape.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:37

Because we entrusted the supply to the old-fashioned Papua class…

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:38

In Yassan’s origin, the character is portrayed as a deeply emotional and charming soldier, but in the bald author’s novel version, the character feels very much like a realist.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:44

>>90The anime is almost just like the novel.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:44

There are quite a few people in Zeon who take family lineage seriously, but it’s a lineage that existed even before they expanded into the colonies.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48Yeahx1

>>96None
Common traits of a dictatorship.

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:50

>>96Because they are a family that accomplished great things in an environment without a foundation.
It feels like it should be great.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:46

Degwin and Dozle both have regular concubines, but is polygamy recognized in UC?

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48

>>97Do you think the Zabi family will follow the rules?

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48

>>100Dictatorial countries are scary.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48

>>97Isn’t it recognized in the Principality of Zeon?
It depends on the country as well, doesn’t it?

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48Yeahx1

I only knew the line “War is about numbers!” so I didn’t think it was a complaint from the losing side.

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:50Yeahx2

>>98“It’s a numbers game! (So, send more!)” is the line, so of course…

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:55

>>98“I thought the phrase ‘It’s sad, but this is war’ was something said by an enemy who has been dishonorable.”

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:56

>>111I’m going to die now, but it’s war, so it can’t be helped! Also, please take care of things!
It’s sad, isn’t it?

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:48

If we’re just talking about appearance, I look the most like my dad.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:49

I feel like the thread image embodies a kind of purity, for better or worse, and it seems like all the things that could later become my brother’s disgrace or infamy are somehow being absorbed by me.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:52

That is something quite reasonable for Dozle.
That line is really multifaceted and nice, isn’t it?

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:52

The Principality of Zeon has a form that resembles a noble authoritarian regime, doesn’t it?

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:57

>>109But Mayor Mash is elected in the election.
It seems that nobility and civilian politics can coexist.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/13(Fri)17:58

The poison gas was used by Sima, who is part of the assault mobile forces under Kshiri.

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