Hahaha… Huh!? Master… Pull yourself together… Sorry, I need to rest for a while. Sorry about that. Go ahead and swing it hard, Wolf-kun… It’s really… I, I didn’t expect my skills to have dulled this much… Ah, really, this sword is!? It’s really amazing!!! This sword!!! It’s such a boring, worthless sword…!! It’s completely made off standard specifications, just a dull iron rod!! This thing is a copy, a degraded copy of mine…!!
It’s deteriorating, isn’t it?
What kind of feeling is it…
>>2I have crushed the talent of the young people…! I have crushed it…!
I think guns would be appreciated.
Isn’t it also important to be able to create things of the same quality…?
>>4Make the best sword you can with the skills you have now, as a condition for the test to make the master a Mekakure!
A degraded copy was presented.
>>7I wonder if having a personality would have been enough to pass…
>>7It’s not that a degraded copy was presented, but rather that this guy, who can only produce standard goods as instructed, is lamenting that he is my degraded copy.
>>4That’s true.
I was pointed out that I denied the lack of technological development while unconsciously adjusting to meet stable supply orders and not allowing my disciples to surpass me, but the reality was just that, so I’m crying.
Are you saying to surpass me…?
Is it about something like a deteriorated copy of Ohtani?
In terms of inheritance.
Well, if you gain experience, you’ll probably reach the same level as the master.
I understand that you’re a terrible boss.
It was due to the poor guidance of the master.
>>11No… it was precisely because the guidance was so well done that it became a tragedy…
As perfectly as I taught… a perfectly boring copy of me…
Isn’t it strange to react like that just because the sword created with the abilities at this point is only at that level?
>>14The master kept his disciples in a state of being ineffective in order to cling to his own position.
You still look young, and you have the basics down.
Isn’t it good to find and nurture your individuality from here?
>>16That’s why the word “deterioration” comes into play.
I understand it’s important to stick to the standards, but I can honestly relate to crying over having crushed talent…
>>17It’s a bit too exaggerated to say that talent was wasted.
It’s just that I was a cancer that would corrupt the industry when I came into contact with young talent.
I can understand a worldview where there’s no room for growth anymore, like reaching the maximum level in a game…
Well, I won’t deny that this master is a jerk, but that aside, what I created by pouring all my knowledge into the most talented person in my workshop is…
It’s a boring sword…!!
An old man with absolutely no talent as a trainer.
>>20It’s not that my disciple is disappointing and is crying, but rather because they are aware of it…
If you’re young but can do it well and are just a degraded copy of a skilled artisan, then…
I think development is possible from there…
>>21Since I’ve built the foundation with a degraded copy, any development from here will only be superficial.
In the first place, this master is second-rate.
I am aware that just being in a famous store with atmosphere makes a difference for me.
Ah, it’s disappointment in myself.
I think it’s a perfect score for guidance, just that the direction the master is seeking is different.
You can only start to develop your individuality once you become a responsible adult.
Now is just the perfect time.
I ended up creating a boring craftsman who perfectly imitates my boring self…
Are you lamenting your own incompetence instead of the sword?
Since the number of bosses in the town is limited, he is a boss who hasn’t properly trained his disciples because he doesn’t want to be kicked out of his position by someone more capable than himself.
Well… I understand that there’s nothing to do but cry.
Not only swords, but I could only create something that was not interesting in the sense of making successors…
If a second-rate teaching can produce perfection in standards, then isn’t that rather impressive?
It seems like it could be corrected immediately if I added top-notch teaching.
>>36Because I based it on second-rate teachings, if I want to learn first-rate teachings, I have to first discard all the fundamentals and everything else.
And since a blacksmith’s active period is not long, if you try to start learning from scratch again, you won’t be able to reach the goal.
>>42I don’t really understand how the foundations of first-class and second-class are completely different.
>>47Isn’t it easy to understand that a regular good sword is different from a legendary sword that appears in stories?
I can only learn how to make good swords, so I can’t forge a legendary sword.
>>66It may not be acceptable in art, but if you can use a sword, then it’s not a problem, so that feels a bit complicated.
>>66Unless it’s at a level where it can shoot flames or beams, a story’s sword is ultimately just a little sharper and sturdier than others.
Generally, if a good sword can be made, that’s enough.
>>95It was the master who regretted that.
>>95In this world, legendary swords can unleash flames when swung, cause the gravity at their tip to increase dramatically, or kill the opponent upon drawing them… it’s that kind of level.
Isn’t it just the “preserve” aspect of the “shuhari”?
It’s just the beginning.
It’s also called “shu-ha-ri,” and let’s look forward to the emergence of individuality from here.
Did it end up that I raised a talented disciple into someone who can only create things that are rigid and fixed?
This disciple was able to create a truly remarkable sword that properly expressed his individuality afterward…
Boss? The yakkosan has passed away.
>>40Congratulations.
Is the master going to die!?
>>41He conceded the workshop to his apprentice and humbled himself to talented young individuals to receive teachings in order to reach a new realm.
This will be a sword like no other! I was thrilled that I could step into uncharted territory! But I died of illness before the sword was completed.
If it were poorly done, I could scold it, but it’s just a degraded copy after all.
If they had properly inherited, it might have been better, but after a long time of being held back, this is the result of finally thinking they’ve changed their mind…
>>45Isn’t it 100% the boss’s fault?
>>48That’s why I’m crying with regret!
>>48That’s right… I’m devastated that even my apprentice’s work was second-rate…
The fact that everything is perfectly standardized and lacking individuality gives off a sense of noise.
Is it in a state where the foundation is sloppy or irreparably incorrect?
Isn’t it ideal for the foundation to be well-established? This is a question I have.
>>46It feels like a straight 70 points.
It’s a good sword for everyday use, but it’s not one that can be called a legendary sword like those found in stories.
>>46Even though there was personality, if they were taught the basics thoroughly and ended up being unable to do anything else, it would be tough for the one who taught them.
>>46It’s not a young talent still in training; it’s the ace who is just about to entrust his workshop, so it’s already too late.
Isn’t it the basics that make something a top-notch standard…?
Because I was a loser, I ended up making this guy a loser copy…!
For now, when I researched the work, it turned out to be about an old man like Asherad and a protagonist who gives blowjobs to swords, which was a no-go for me.
>>54What is this sword fellatio?
>>60I made a really good sword, so I tried to lick it.
>>60Due to the sword being finished in an overly sensual way, it’s a sword f◯ra.
Furthermore, if someone else imbues this sword with charm magic later on, it will turn into a cursed weapon known as the “Masturbation Suicide Orgasm Sword.”
I’m sorry, I just checked, but this was a turning point for me to change my mindset.
It’s a scene where I simply realized that my entire life as a craftsman had become worthless just to maintain the position of master.
In the first place, the lord decided to give land to create a weapons production area! He told the master craftsman to make good weapons! If he fails, he’ll confiscate the master craftsman’s rights and give them to someone else! That’s the situation.
I am crying out of regret for my disciples and my own helplessness.
I understand why someone would feel like crying when they’re told that even though they had talent, they can create good swords because of their own guidance, but they can’t create masterpieces.
Afraid of being threatened in my position, I did not seriously train my talented disciple.
After that, I changed my attitude and started teaching, but it was too late, and he had turned into a fool who could only produce cheap imitations of his own.
It seems like that’s okay based on the posts in the thread.
>>59That’s mostly correct.
The disciple blossomed in talent after becoming independent.
If this is the most promising disciple in my workshop, then the other disciples should be regarded highly as well.
But well, if you have a solid foundation, you can do the application on your own…
A master with parameters like 10:10:8
Find a new talent with a shining personality like 3:3:7.
I hope to be able to train disciples who can achieve something like 8:8:9 or 9:7:9, if not all 10s.
Is it like a story where it turned out to be 9:9:7?
>>63According to that analogy, this boss is basically a second-rate who is about 6:6:5.
Paradoxically, top-notch individuals might be taught the basics but still express their individuality while adhering to certain standards.
It may seem boring as a process, but since the proper state of the sword is likely to pass, it creates a strange feeling.
>>65It is undoubtedly a first-class good sword.
It’s merely a mediocre work that can only be called a good sword, but not a masterpiece.
By the way, this disciple isn’t that young either…
Isn’t it that famous swords and blades are rather an extension of those that are well-proportioned and lack any strange quirks?
The famous swords of this world are probably more of the creatively impactful type.
>>71The legendary magic sword mentioned in the story is said to be a masterwork that, when approached within a certain distance, overwhelms the victim with intense sexual excitement, causing them to be cut down while simultaneously ejaculating and dying.
>>83Did something suddenly change in the work?
>>88Now, if you draw your sword, the people around you go mad and start killing each other or commit suicide, leading to their own complete destruction.
>>88You don’t have to cut them; they’ll start self-decapitating on their own.
>>83Because you become defenseless, I can attack unilaterally.
Do you need ejaculation? Isn’t just slashing to death enough?
>>121They are here because they will take their own life of their own accord to feel good.
Could it be that the boss is an important character?
>>74In the story, that’s about it… since he is one of the main characters’ friends, his name and such do come up to some extent.
If it’s a disciple who can’t become independent, then this is perfect.
If you end up like this with a promising disciple, then it’s definitely a failure.
What will happen from here?
It’s like the assistant can only draw an inferior copy of its own style…
>>78I guess I have no choice but to have a spin-off of my own work drawn.
I mean, if you actually draw it, it naturally drifts away if you don’t pay attention to it.
It doesn’t end with just the attached pages; from what I hear, it seems to have an interesting story.
>>81A work where a swordsmith is the main character, responding to various needs and problems with sword-making, and occasionally (quite frequently) engaging in swordplay themselves.
I’ve read the original and I like it quite a bit.
In this world, amazing weapons can be imbued with a lot of magic, resulting in extraordinary performance.
The wall over there is amazing, so top-notch craftsmen are like artists.
>>82If you’ve held back a talented disciple who seems capable of stepping into that realm and settled for just creating generally good products, then it’s understandable to be upset.
It’s a good sword with scores around 80 points.
However, even if there is only one famous sword, it has to surpass the 90-point barrier… something like that.
Ah, if there are such outrageous super weapons, then it’s no wonder that ordinary famous swords are regarded as boring trash…
>>90I’m just regretting that I made that the goal, but I’m treating the sword itself as a good thing!
I did it, boss! I attached a lot of small swords to the blade!
With the momentum of drawing the sword, a small blade flies out and pierces the enemy numerous times!
A craftsman who can consistently produce works with a perfect score of 100.
An artisan who can create 200-point works even with few creations.
Which one is evaluated so that the craftsman himself is also satisfied?
Just to let you know, the Suicide Knee Forced Blade is one of the top demon swords in the story, so most of the other ones are a lot more normal! It’s not like the vibe of something like DangeRlos!
It’s more of a Satanoferni-like worldview than I expected…
I also like the story of how this master, who was an adventurer in his youth, became determined to pursue the path of blacksmithing.
I made the teeth of the sword extremely finely serrated to maintain its sharpness, and now it absorbs the fat of the sliced opponent and ignites into flames!
>>102It’s certainly a personality…!
It’s regrettable to have turned someone with the potential to forge legendary swords into just an average good sword level…
Is that performance something that can be dealt with by a swordsmith? Really?
>>105To be precise, there is a magic-enchanting craftsman separate from the blacksmith.
Therefore, the better the weapon, the more magical enhancements it can have.
>>105It feels like the blacksmith imbues the weapons with magical powers, so the sword alone doesn’t have that strange power.
The suicide knife, which is forced above, is a bewildering famous sword that can injure those who have seen it before the magic is engraved, as they lick it or bring it close to their face.
When a magic sword that enhances charisma was made for the king of a certain country, soldiers from the opposing nation all fell to their knees.
Even the kings of enemy countries can end up kneeling by mistake when faced with such a thing…
I remember Tsubaki appearing frequently, but what abilities did Ohka have again?
>>107Super concentration?
Generally speaking, whether something can be enhanced with magic is a significant factor, so the criteria are inherently different from reality.
On top of that, the ultra legendary sword is capable of ultra bestowal.
I felt like I was cut just by getting close, but handling this sword is a hassle…
As a support, it’s perfect, but…
As a manga artist, it has no substance…!
>>110I ended up becoming a manga artist who can only draw beautiful pictures…!
>>113I guess I’ll have to throw the name at them and keep them on a leash as the comic adaptation person…
>>113Draw a beautiful picture.
I can draw manga.
Just these two points alone make it quite strong…
>>342I can draw manga.
That’s quite a high difficulty level…
It requires talent beyond just drawing pictures in the panel layout for the name.
>>110Why… why am I just assisting and not drawing my own manga…!
>>123It feels like there’s no helping it if we think it’s the person’s fault…
>>123It’s because I taught you that way～～～～!
>>128It seems that Fujita is properly making sure to draw manga so that it doesn’t turn out that way, so teachings are indeed important.
Other swords are light and are for the protection of nobles; they make a nice sound when touched and are enjoyable, or something like that.
To put it another way, it’s quite vivid how the lord’s intention to limit the number of masters for the sake of maintaining quality is having the opposite effect.
The protagonist’s naming sense is crap.
The suicide knife I forced to make was the first sword I created and it’s the craziest one in the story…
The others, like the Flame Sword, Barrier Sword, and Wabisuke, are relatively decent.
An old man who only thought of himself realized that he hadn’t nurtured the younger generation…
If such a sword is created, then the blacksmith would be a wizard.
>>120I let my own ego turn someone who had the talent to become a wizard into just a mere blacksmith.
The sad past of the old men in the image obtaining the legendary sword…
>>122Sad pasts are really sad, so it’s not okay.
>>122Is this the same work as that legendary sword that sometimes gets posted, which turned out to be just a bronze sword?
>>361That’s right.
It’s done! It’s a very thin, flat sword! By making the tip slightly heavier, it can deliver versatile slashing attacks like a whip!
The perverted swordsmiths of the late Edo period, you know?
>>129I did it! This sword fires a metal ball from the tip when the trigger is pulled!
>>138Shikizaki, return home!
>>138You’re the one from even before the change in sword style, aren’t you!
What is the title of the work?
>>131Pointed iron bar
>>131Chronicles of a Swordsmith in Another World: Crafting Demon Swords
The comic adaptation of the book is “Life of the Otherworldly Swordsmith’s Demon Sword Creation.”
Only the camellia has turned into a cursed sword! It’s just too different…
What an enchanted sword you have even before the enchantment…
Arai Akasora, go home!
Isn’t the ejaculation factor unnecessary!?
I think the master would have cried tears of joy if someone lacking talent could make a sword of this level.
I cried because someone who had enough talent made a masterpiece sword at this level because of their own fault.
I like this work because the heroine is having sex from the beginning.
>>139(Is it about the camellia…)
>>139I was surprised when I read as much as I could for free and then it came out normally.
I did it! This sword is a sword in the shape of a human!
Was that the one by Mr. Kitao?
It’s not about the stage of “shuhari” where you are still in the “shu” (protect) phase.
If I convey the break from here.
>>146I don’t have that kind of time.
I’m already in both.
I wonder if I will achieve Shuhari from now on.
>>147After the master died and I took over the workshop, I didn’t really respect him that much or like him, so I thought, “I’ll just do as I please!” and then talent started to blossom right before my eyes.
>>154Do it before you inherit.
>>156Before inheriting, I received guidance as the master’s apprentice, so there’s no way I could do as I please.
>>156The apprentice system means that one cannot become independent without permission indefinitely…
>>156So it’s a story that we couldn’t do that because the boss messed up the training.
>>154It’s really sad that the disciples weren’t that saddened by the master’s death.
If being a blacksmith doesn’t work out, you can just become a great sorcerer.
In the end, although the old man was also a beginner in honing, he was able to leave behind a famous sword, and after becoming a master, his apprentice accumulated training and was able to create a famous sword as well…
This sword can be connected at the handle to resemble a Gelgoog’s naginata.
In short, does that mean it just couldn’t surpass expectations?
>>155Regret for having stifled the potential of talented young people due to my own ego.
>>155Although I started on the path of blacksmithing late, I actively learned and became the best workshop owner in the town, just like the master in my younger days.
“But you’ve been playing it safe lately, and you can’t even swing an interesting sword anymore. Your disciple must feel sorry for you…” said an old friend, and I snapped.”
That shouldn’t be the case. If it comes to this, I’ll have our ace make a heartfelt work as a successor test and show them with their own eyes.
What a tragedy, this is a weapon… a sad existence that can create nothing.
Don’t ever think you’re so lofty as to want to be useful to others again.
Later, he followed up on his own, but in the end, the master could only stifle this guy’s talent growth.
I glanced at it, but it felt more like disappointment in myself as a master rather than disappointment towards my disciple.
>>163Haven’t I been told that multiple times even just in this thread?!
>>166In other words, it’s not that I’m disappointed in my disciple, but that I’m disappointed in myself as a master.
>>163That’s right, the disciple was just following the teachings.
>>163That’s exactly the scene.
It has been said many times in the thread, but I’m not saying to my disciple, “You are this poor copy!” I’m just crying over the fact that I could only turn a talented disciple into my own inferior copy.
Ah, when I Googled, it said not to do the kitchen.
Indeed, if you think about it, I can faintly sense the smell of a Yaruo thread.
Shackles or level caps, or maybe the boss…
I thought I was properly training my disciple, but it turns out I just made a lesser copy of myself, well, that’s that.
I remembered that it’s a person from my favorite Kitao thread.
The boss is really built too well.
There is no reason to be disappointed because the disciple is responding well to my teachings.
That’s why I’m disappointed that this guy hasn’t grown more because of my teachings.
Is it wrong to think that since they seem young and have perfectly mastered the basics up to this point, they should now explore their own direction, Master?
>>174We’re not young anymore.
The master will meet their end not long after this.
>>174To be frank, the master’s skills aren’t that great, so it’s somewhat of a degraded copy, even as basic practice…
>>174The master is considering retirement in the near future, and this apprentice is the leading candidate to inherit the best workshop in town.
In reality, it means that candidates for top designers of luxury brands are stuck at a level where they can only do textbook designs properly.
It’s like being fully aware that it’s completely due to my guidance as the current top designer.
Well, if someone without talent can be turned into a degraded copy…
It’s incredible that we can produce a large number of craftsmen who are above average.
It seems I’ve only gotten to the “shu” stage of the do, shu, ha, ri.
Hmm… If we’re thinking ahead, then we need to aggressively produce this regulated item and market it as a mass-produced product for the royal family.
>>180To be honest, even if it’s not a legendary sword, there are better swords out there, so it’s absolutely impossible for it to be a favored sword of the royal family or soldiers. It’s just a sword for the master and disciples at this stage.
In the first place, the basic practice isn’t anything particularly outstanding.
The master also vaguely understood that he was a second-rate blacksmith in terms of talent (though he tried not to see it), and he could only produce a dull version of his apprentice, and now he definitely didn’t have time to retrain him, so all he could do was cry.
What the hell… is it really a hopelessly sad page… Don’t post something like this in the middle of the night…
After all, the blacksmith is only suited for the demon tribe.
Is it like being able to handmade a perfectly crafted knife that is on the same level as a mass-produced knife that can be made in unlimited quantities at a factory?
>>187It’s not exactly perfect to begin with.
It feels like the mass-produced level has become the limit.
>>187As the master said, it’s only as good as a “pointed iron rod.”
It’s not that it’s perfect as an ordinary sword; it’s a degraded copy from a second-rate blacksmith who has been underestimated, so you can guess the quality.
This workshop is currently in the service of the lord.
The lord orders this one-of-a-kind famous sword, which is to be given as a reward to the hero.
It is also a tragedy where demand and supply do not match, indicating that it is not an excellent mass-produced item.
I can mass-produce something of consistent quality! That would be fine, but the end product, which is the result of my serious efforts as the successor, has only turned out to be a boring pointed iron rod.
It’s a painful story.
It seems that Blade Runner 2 was disappointing as it tried to be a model sequel just like Ridley Scott’s.
In the end, this master also dies.
>>194In other words, I’m crying because I know I’m going to die not too far from now (something I can’t take back)…
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