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What is it, what is it…!? Have you already realized it…? It’s the greatest pleasure to use the complaints of a loser as bait…! Hehehe… Should I have hurt you more…? If that’s the case, I would have enjoyed having a drink.

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:36Yeahx38

Is that you from the future…? It’s fine though…

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:39Yeahx32

It’s not like that…
Rather, the original work is more like hate creation…

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:48Yeahx30

>>2This is basically Kaiji’s spin-off…

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:41Yeahx23

You have terrible taste…

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:45Yeahx41

>>3Even Ichijou-san was doing things like blood nail polish…!!

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:42Yeahx12

It’s more out than watching girls’ anime…

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:42Yeahx27

A sad scene where a young person who moved to Tokyo joined a dark organization and ended up distorting their thoughts.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:43Yeahx7

Is this how it is in the original work…?

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:45

I wish I could go back to the time when I was into watching girls’ anime and was obsessed with my single-lens reflex camera…

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:45

It’s like the environment of Teiai was so bad that it influenced me…

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:46Yeahx2

If you’re going to have a drink, wouldn’t it be better to do it while listening to a voice actor’s radio? I don’t mind either way…

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:46

It even looks like a pose to hide a girl’s anime hobby.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:47

>>11Isn’t this much more something that should be hidden…?

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:47

It’s not so much that I’m acting while sweating… but the colleague in front is being genuine…

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:47Yeahx2

That’s your true nature, isn’t it?
It’s fine, though…

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:47

We’re not that bad of people, or rather…

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:48Yeahx25

Auts Auts Auts Auts…!
Disregarding the original setting is a no-go…!

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:49

>>16Even Ichijo, who was so close with my part-time job colleagues, is out…

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:48

It’s more like a difference in interpretation of the original work…

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:48Yeahx1

Auts Auts Auts
As a person, it’s so frustrating…!!

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:49Yeahx1

It’s different… This is a wicked spin-off featuring an original character from Kaiji.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:50Yeahx19

These guys can still make excuses because it’s an old story, but for Tone River and Hanchou, it becomes clear that they’re behaving the same way off-screen as in the original work.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:54

>>22It’s fine to make a gag about it, but I really can’t handle the cleanup after the human horse racing… I’ve often thought that.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:55

I can’t forgive that Kaiji, which takes the kind protagonists and cruelly gathers them to have an original character hurt them…!

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:38Yeahx7

>>24To be honest, I’m starting to dislike this topic.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:56

Hanchou is one thing, but Tonegawa is already showing his malicious side in the story…

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:58

>>25Even Hanchou.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:56

If Teiai were just an ordinary moneylender, it wouldn’t have turned out like this…

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:57

I feel sad that Murakami passed through the thread in the last episode of Ichijou…

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:36Yeahx1

>>27It’s often said to be a pointless spin-off, but…
I think that including the final episode, Ichijou is quite a high-quality spin-off.

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:38Yeahx2

>>91Haven’t I been told that…? Well, it’s fine…

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:57

(This guy seems like this, but he was really into Re:Zero…)

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:58

You were having fun breaking watermelons at Natsu Mikiyo’s family home, huh… it’s fine though.

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:24

>>30Wasn’t it the home of the Shiga gorilla…? It’s fine either way…

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:58

Otsuki is quite something.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:59Yeahx15

My enjoyment is having a drink while watching the “Retsupuri” anime.
It’s the greatest pleasure…!

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:59

>>32That’s fine, but…

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:01

>>32Don’t let your subordinates look down on you; it’s better to avoid that in the workplace.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)11:59

It seems like they’re trying to extract money from the worthless ones as if it were a natural thing to do.
Indeed, when it comes to bullying that concerns life and death, it doesn’t seem like a character trait; rather, it feels like if they had that kind of time, they would be playing instead.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:00Yeahx5

>>33The original leader does not hesitate to use attacks that could kill Kaiji.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:06Yeahx6

>>33If it’s just one person, that’s one thing, but they are trying to unite and involve the other 45 pairs to escape from their advance payment life, so for Hanchou, they must be a top priority to crush.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:01

The characters change a lot, but the animation style also varies quite a bit depending on the period.
The artwork of the spin-off group has become established as the public image of Fukimoto’s works.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:02Yeahx2

>>38The leader’s face was completely fixed in an anime and Hanchou style.
The original group’s leader has a really nasty-looking face.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:01

The Hancho has scenes where they regularly roll up at Shiroku-sai…

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:01Yeahx3

I’m going to quit Teiai anyway after this.

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:04

Are you going “over there”…? I don’t mind, though…

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:07

In Hanchō, there aren’t any characters that irritate the squad leader’s nerves as much as Kaiji does.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:08

However, it’s not a dream…! The artwork was completed at that point.
The early Tone River makes me wonder, “Was it really this face?” when I watch the manga… The influence of the anime is strong.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:11

>>46The early Kaiji also has a strong vibe of a clumsy older brother.
I think it’s amazing how the anime art reproduces Fukamoto’s style while also beautifying it.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:08

It’s different… Ijou-san said to create a character so that you won’t be looked down upon…

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:09

Thanks to the easy spin-offs, there’s a lot of hate towards the original work…!

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:12

Hehehe… (So that brings you joy…)

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:13

Well, it’s only natural that Ichijo would go “kukuku…”

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:14Yeahx4

I think it was quite a dangerous scene when Kaiji was talking about the plan without noticing the transmitter.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:15Yeahx2

The original work’s interpretation differences lead to disagreements…

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:16

Recently, it seems that Kaiji is turning into a bad guy who bullies everyone’s favorite characters.
I think it’s better to start a spin-off with Kaiji as the main character.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:21

>>54I feel like doing everyday life during Kaiji’s normal times doesn’t really increase my favorability.
If you’re going to do that, the current escape arc is the best… though the serialization is on hold…

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:16Yeahx3

In the early stages of Kaiji, it doesn’t really feel like Kaiji, does it?
Even with a face like that, there’s a change in the illustration style.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:23

>>55The early Akagi also has different art.
There are scenes where I’m sweating more than I thought in the early Akagi… I realize that.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:16Yeahx4

Akagi is much better.
Is it going to connect to heaven from now on…? You could say that…

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:19Yeahx3

>>56I somewhat understand why Akagi becomes mundane.
The line “Let’s keep going until one of us is ruined!” from the Yagi vs. Ichikawa match makes me feel like Akagi was in a pure, childlike phase back then…

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:24

>>57Watching the Akagi funeral arc after the climax of the Washizu Mahjong has a different charm.
I couldn’t die in gambling…

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:20

>>56I thought it would depict how that cool Akagi becomes Akagi, but it ended with the Washizu Mahjong.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:04

>>60Well, you know, as you get older, the edges soften.
Akagi Shigeru wakes the chef in the middle of the night to make fugu sashimi…!! Akagi Shigeru takes a bite and is satisfied…!

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:19

It’s horrifying that someone like this is watching children’s anime and saying it’s not like that… or something like that…

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:21

>>58It’s not that… I was watching a girls’ anime and it wasn’t like that… and somehow I’ve ended up like this…

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:20Yeahx2

The fact that Hanchou is still doing cheating Chinchiro hasn’t changed, so it’s the same…

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:20

Those happy-looking gang members are being messed up by that spin-off character called Kaiji…!

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:22

>>61The fact that Hanchou is having fun is also a result of exploitation, unlike us, right…?
It’s fine, but…

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:21

I came here because Ichijou asked me to follow him to Teiai, but I was wondering if we’re going that way…

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:22

A spin-off of SOGA where the aged Akagi’s last moments are being burned into his brain…

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:23Yeahx3

It seems like a daily spin-off featuring Kaiji would be composed of complaints about the world and some trivial life hacks.
This is just the main story.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:26Yeahx1

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I believe there is…! True love…! Murakami-kun…! That’s right..!

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:26

It’s as if Kaiji is a demon that destroys everyday life…

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:26

In the first place, the Teiai itself is really bad and it creates an environment that distorts ethics…

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:28Yeahx2

A young Akagi who is betting his life living fiercely in a rural Yakuza gambling den.
The contrast with the old Akagi, who seems like he could easily handle that level with just a few words, is really good…

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:28

The scene where Ichijo is in the chairman’s chair is really tough for me…

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:29

To release a daily life spin-off, neither Ichijo nor Miyoshi have a character that feels amusing…
The Tone River and the squad leader are evil in the original work, but they’re somehow different from those guys…

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:32

>>76It seems to be influenced by the content; the former is interesting, so my impression changed and I can laugh at it now, but the latter wasn’t that great in terms of content.
It’s fine, though.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:36

>>76The Tone River and the leader can be polished in good or bad ways throughout the work, but Ichijo and Miyoshi don’t have that, so I think there are parts that you can feel directly in that regard.

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:29Yeahx3

People can change, huh?

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:30

In the Ichijou time-space, Murakami will quit this Doburakku and start again with Ichijou somehow…

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:30

Well, to begin with, the time setting is different… There aren’t any Precure in this era…

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:31Yeahx1

>>79But it was suggested that there was a time when you passed through the era of thread images, right…? It’s fine either way…

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:30Yeahx3

Doesn’t Kaiji actually increase his loser level in everyday life?

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:30Yeahx6

What I first did to get the room I used to live in for the final episode of Ichijou was to show that I had money, which gives off a feeling of being influenced by Teiai, and I like that.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:31

Having lived long immersed in the underworld, being detached from commonality might make one akin to a sage or something like that…

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:32

We were so together back then.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:33Yeahx2

It’s not exactly refreshing, but I feel a sense of sadness when I think that the two of them, who lived their youth, became twisted in heart at Teiai.

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:33

If that is allowed, I feel like the Modern Mahjong editorial department wishes they could do something like Shaz’s daily life stuff too.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:35Yeahx2

>>87Washi was talking about the peak period before becoming senile.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:36Yeahx1

The thread image is really sad…

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:41

>>92All of this is the fault of Teiai.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:41Yeahx3

Hanchou is now at a level of being a completely different person from the main story.
Ichijou feels a strange melancholy thinking that this young person will eventually become like that.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:42

I’m curious about how you got out from the underground in the year 1050…
It’s what you’d call unsophisticated…

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:48

>>97It wasn’t paid back properly.
There might be some dangerous dealings around Kurosaki.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:43

It is often clearly said to be a miss in Kurosawa’s Nakane spin-off.
Ichijo gives the impression that it’s not really a bad option, just something that won’t last too long.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:44Yeahx7

It goes without saying, but the original work Kaiji is popular, which is why so many spin-offs are popping up like bamboo shoots after the rain…
From there, it’s not really a good idea to turn the main story into something that mocks it, even as a joke…

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:48Yeahx2

>>99I wonder if how I’m treated here has any impact anywhere… Well, I guess it doesn’t matter…

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:46

Isn’t it 700 million yen in debt?
Well… they must have figured something out.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:47

It’s a bit concerning to read that Hanchou is increasingly becoming a ridiculously high-spec old man.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:47

>>101If I had to say, it feels like my physical specs have decreased with contact…?

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:47

It might be that someone from above helped after the old man’s tantrum was over…
Well… I know that it’s just an overly convenient and unrealistic delusion…

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:47

I thought that if I read Akagi until the end, I might end up becoming the heavenly Akagi.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:49

>>104After the Mahjong game with Washizu, Akagi has become unusually playful.
It certainly feels like I’m going to become that thing of the heavens.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:50

>>109“Hey, your mood was like ‘Washiusu Iwao (Niconico) level, right?”

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:48

In the future, I will become Akagi-san, who is playing golf every day with friends in Hawaii, saying, “Golf is really difficult!”

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:49

“Isn’t it good enough to say, ‘I don’t like it’ …?”

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:50

I wonder if they will do a spin-off of Endo before meeting Kaiji eventually.

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:50

Isn’t it a gag based on the premise that no one seriously thinks Kaiji is a spin-off? It’s fine either way…

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:56Yeahx5

>>111It’s boring.

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:51

It’s not that…
By indulging in the complaints of a loser with “Sakana,” the story of “Retsupuri” gains depth…

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:52Yeahx6

>>113Hey~~ no way!!

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:53Yeahx5

>>113What kind of anime is that… It’s fine, though.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:52

There’s no way someone who gets hooked on girls’ anime has this kind of moral perspective.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:56

I wanted a spinoff of Ichijo that wasn’t a slice-of-life like Hanchō, but rather a dark hero gambling manga about rising to power through heel tactics from the underground.

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)12:58

Kaiji is currently running away with 2.4 billion.

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:00

It’s true that there are more talking points that come from common experiences of older men rather than the character of Ichijou or the usual young people’s themes.
Hanchou can talk endlessly just by mentioning that something is currently trending underground, like “〇〇 is in vogue…” or that Otsuki secretly likes “××”… It’s quite enjoyable, isn’t it?

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:13

>>121Originally, the special rules of chinchiro (everyone rolls regardless of the parent’s hand, or the parent rolls twice) are based on the premise of “everyone enjoying equally in an entertainment-less underground,” which makes it relatively easy to accept the various content creations to extract money from underground members in Hanchou.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:01

It’s different… even if there were good bond events in the past, the world view is such that it can still become trashy, which is noticeable in characters like Miyoshi…

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:04

Hanchō is in an environment where they can increase the number of characters as much as they want underground, so there’s not much worry about running out of material, which is a big deal.

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:06

In Ichijo, I was waiting for Aijou to come back in the final episode.
In the original work, it doesn’t seem like Ichijo is the type to patiently wait for a return…
That’s not it…

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:07

I wonder if Ichijou will start picking up original black-suited characters from now on.

127: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:09

It’s not really a great hobby.
It’s fine, but…

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:09

The original Ichijou is a complex character who sets up listening devices to use against his classmates, saying things like, “People like you won’t be let into the shelter…!” It’s completely different from Ichijou in the manga.

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:09

Ichijou can’t really say much about other people, can they?

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:13

So that person from far away was a damn jerk… It’s fine though…

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:15Yeahx2

>>131It’s not far away… it’s different…

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:16

In the final episode, this guy’s eyes were so sharply angled that it was just plain painful.

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)13:19

Isn’t the hairstyle changing too much in just a few frames?

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