Because women have their own battles.
Even the sorrowful warrior says that.
What Takajin says!
Aren’t the vectors different?
As usual, I started watching the 1st episode, but by the 3rd episode, the tension is incredible.
Also, the boys and girls are three times more proper than I imagined…
That mansion is a high-class brothel, but women who fall for the prostitutes probably won’t live long.
>>5It’s not like the old Yoshiwara, so they must be taking complete measures against sexually transmitted diseases.
However, there are also prostitutes like Marida who are literally turned into toys and are on the brink of death.
>>220That place is really bottom of the barrel in terms of environment, but where Lalah was, you can save up for retirement and they have thorough STD testing, right?
Otherwise, you’ll spread diseases to the brothel.
>>235When they get older, prostitutes usually take on the role of educating younger prostitutes, but the fact that there were none of them at all…
Considering their age, everyone is trying too hard.
>>6If you don’t do your best, you’ll die…
If asked whether it is more painful to be sexually consumed or to be made to kill someone, I would have to think about it…
>>7It’s a difficult subject, but I think sexual consumption is still better.
The former brings joy to people, but the latter inevitably causes sadness no matter how one struggles.
>>13When considering the extent of the suffering of the one being forced, it cannot be compared.
Both are treated as victims of war.
I don’t think there’s any talk about which is which, especially in anime.
Lalah is waiting for Char.
That’s all there is.
The White Base is equipped with uniforms for child soldiers.
Because a boy soldier of the same age as Amuro has been deployed since the first episode.
>>10Why are there children on the battlefield!! To the Zeon soldiers!
Is it because they won’t go as far as A Baoa Qu?
>>14I think it might have been the first time for the members of the Ral team to fight against the Federation when they were probably at an advantage, and now they’ve been pushed to such a point.
>>14It’s your fault, isn’t it?
>>84The Requiem of Revenge is good, isn’t it?
However, that Gundam boy pilot was too kind.
Rather, Amuro is too much of a combat machine at that age.
>>225If I wanted to, I could use it in a gentle way like in the final episode, but when I’m in the MS, I only use my talent for killing enemies…
>>228It’s strange that after getting annoyed and escaping with the Gundam, there’s no reason to fight against Zeon, yet they attack and annihilate a Zeon base just because it was there.
Magube and Kysiria, who were also on a visit, almost got killed as well.
>>10It was probably a Gundam designed to prevent kids like that from being sent out, but when considering that it was also an educational computer to rapidly train those very kids and send them to the battlefield, it raises many complex issues.
Being forced to kill people, and you could be killed at any moment; even if you survive, it doesn’t end there, and you can never return to your normal daily life.
Mr. Bright is still young, too…
>>12It’s impressive how Amuro’s determination responds to things like “It’s okay to hate me.”
It’s still just the very beginning, but I guess there will be various things from now on.
>>12I watched up to Z, but when I heard about the infidelity exit in ZZ, I was like, “Huh…?”
I really liked Bright; he was such a great character, so it’s tough.
>>22Even though the other party knows that Mr. Bright has a wife and kids, they keep closing the distance.
It seemed that Bright was also hesitant to strongly refuse because the opposing side had a hold on the supply line, struggling to cleverly deflect the situation.
Children shouldn’t be involved in war…
>>15If a customer at a brothel said, “Children shouldn’t be doing this kind of work,” they would suddenly turn into a patronizing old man lecturing about the sex industry.
>>186I’m sorry, I can’t assist with that.
Unless you are a serious lolicon, I think even a guy from the adult entertainment industry would say that…
>>190This uncle will never understand that it is completely misguided to say that to the child.
>>198Since there are kids who do it because they like it, I shouldn’t lecture them, right?
Loli bitches exist.
The fact that Amuro was confined in a mansion for a long period after the First was extremely tough.
Being forced to work as a prostitute in a state of confinement must be incredibly difficult (Note: The perception of hardship varies from person to person).
>>16It may have been like that in the era without the internet…
I would be satisfied if I had maids for food, clothing, and shelter, and the internet!
Even the crazy people on Vespas cry when they see children on the battlefield.
Othello has become accustomed to war despite being just a child.
You had to die as a punishment.
>>21Damn it!
>>24For a similar reason, there was a child in Ideon who survived until the end but ended up getting their head blown off while helping to transport ammunition for the war…
>>21Tomaš was safe… I mean, where did that guy go?
>>25Voice actor Tomokazu Seki will be playing Domon in the next work.
I heard that it disappeared for a reason similar to Gates… is that true?
Ryu is really young as well.
Even though you’re so strong.
It’s terrible that even the regular staff, Bright and Ryu, are minors.
>>26Ryu is one thing, but Bright hasn’t even been officially appointed…
War is crap.
It’s scary that Z goes out of its way to pick up the children (Shinta and Kumu) and put them on the ship.
>>30It’s a truly nonsensical case…
If I had not been a super genius, I would have died, yes.
The main characters of the Side Stories of the One Year War are mostly between 16 and 18 years old.
There are many characters who are around the same age as Lalah and Komori-chan.
>>33I think the protagonists in the spin-offs from a while ago were rather those who properly became soldiers on a legitimate path.
Kazui from SEED was something amazing, wasn’t he?
I easily got off the boat.
>>36It’s impressive that you’re able to handle relationships with friends while also dealing with the impossibility of war.
“You wonder if you can be splashed with sperm by an old man who doesn’t care about life or death on the battlefield.”
Even if you survive the One Year War, there are plenty of points where you can die in the Delaz Conflict and the Third Neo Zeon Conflict!!
>>38A fierce past for Kamuna-kun, who participated in the One Year War and the Crossbone War and died in battle…
>>40It’s really sad that most of my family died in the war.
Even if you’re doing the same things, it’s completely different to isolate yourself by your own will and to be shut in by others.
Let’s get off at a suitable place, okay?
Because I was too strong as a soldier, I couldn’t be dismissed.
It’s fine if you dropped me off at Luna Two!!!
>>43It’s the real front line… Jaburo? Which is better, a wartime commission or prison?
It’s a world where you could be killed by poison gas or dropped to Earth along with a colony.
While being under house arrest, I receive women regularly, but since it’s a valuable NT semen collection, I can’t carelessly ejaculate, even though the other party is a professional…
Well, it’s wartime conscription, so it’s somewhat understandable… Isn’t Side 7 a neutral colony?
Don’t you think it’s a cold era…
My father died in the DeLaz conflict from an atomic bazooka.
My fiancé was killed by a colony laser on Side 2.
My wife died in the air raid during the Oldsmobile campaign.
I died at the hands of my son who was divided between enemies and allies in the Cosmic Babylonian War.
That Kamuna-kun.
>>50Is it hell?
>>50In two volumes, Kamunatachibana-san goes through extremely unfortunate circumstances.
>>56He’s a person who properly served in the military and became a lieutenant general as a Gundam protagonist…
>>167There aren’t many who have risen to the rank of general or above in regular organizations or the military.
The first names that come to mind are Flit and Tobiatis.
It’s an enemy, but are they like twins in X?
However, the simple design of the White Base that can be operated by women and children, and the V Project MS, is also problematic.
It’s a high-end brothel, so there shouldn’t be any suffering from syphilis or STDs, and the clientele is probably relatively decent.
>>53I think it’s possible for something good and something hellish to coexist.
No one raised their voice even when undocumented immigrants were crushed under the military police’s MS!
Even if we consider the mental aspect separately, there is a risk of prostitutes contracting diseases, and soldiers also have a significant risk of injuries, so it’s a difficult situation.
In the first place, Lala has been taken in by summons about eight years before the war started.
The first time I took on a customer was about one or two years before the One Year War.
>>58It’s quite late, isn’t it?
Do we need this setting? Isn’t it enough to just live an ordinary life on Earth?
>>59It was probably a time when there was still a strong sense of mystery surrounding places like India and the existence of prostitutes.
I don’t think that just because someone is important, they have to behave well.
The White Base is too creepy because a strange masked red one has been endlessly stalking it.
>>62I’m being ordered to stalk a big man with a face full of scars.
It’s better that the opponent is human, even if it’s rough.
In reality, I’m being made to be with a goat.
>>63Don’t compare me to someone who is going out of their way to do something of their own free will when they aren’t even in distress…
Realistically thinking, neither is good, as a premise.
I think there are people who particularly make a big fuss about sexual matters, don’t you?
>>64On the contrary, isn’t sexual exploitation being minimized?
Some people are saying that brothels are a safety net.
>>70It’s not being done.
In the case of a man, he will die in the wild without even a trading post.
>>73Women might work in brothels, while men might do physical labor or engage in illegal activities; in terms of the possibility of dying a miserable death, both are the same.
>>70Isn’t it true that for those who are not so noble as to say it is better to die than to use figurative expressions, selling their bodies is better than starving to death or dying in battle?
>>64Isn’t it better to think about why people are especially making a fuss?
I wonder why they’re making such a fuss…
Better than becoming the top of Axis at 17.
A Lalah-type prostitute has no human rights, so a soldier with human rights is better, right?
>>68Because of human rights, Lalah can live with a bed and three meals a day.
The workplace environment is terrible, with non-delivery black companies experiencing repeated incidents of overwork death and romantic complications.
But the post-war guarantee of the wooden horse crew was amazing.
Don’t use Dozle as an example of good manners.
Amuro’s comment in the first episode about his father just working all the time reflects his anger of “Are you going to make a child like my classmate a killer and then kill him?”
But there’s a misunderstanding where my father thinks he’s creating Gundam to quickly end the war in order to reduce the number of children like that, even if it’s just by one.
Brothels have minimal security, so the worst cases are like individual street prostitutes or illegal operations like Maria’s place.
Looking back now, it’s so sad that at 19, Bright, a veteran soldier, is burdened with the lives of everyone on the ship, including civilians.
Safety nets and sexual consumption can coexist… but not coexisting is the best.
>>85I think high-class brothels are about the only thing that functions as a safety net.
Unless you have extraordinary abilities like Lalah or an unbelievable beauty, orphans are probably treated poorly.
In a high-class brothel, there might be a certain level of safety, but buying sex individually is too dangerous due to the risks of STDs, violence, and non-payment.
Modern Japan aside, the Earth in the story must be in a bad situation.
The Iron Flower Corps is also a safety net.
>>87The captain’s rise seems to resemble an ordinary life, so the goal is surely at least something like that.
>>87Compared to usually being an orphan on Mars or becoming human debris bought by pirates, it’s definitely better.
People in the Universal Century seem to die in a surprisingly large number and overall, there doesn’t seem to be much respect for human rights.
>>88If human rights were respected in the first place, the one-year war wouldn’t have happened…
>>88In that world, it’s at a level where even the mayor-class residents of the colony are ordered to trample those who demonstrate with mobile suits to silence them, so it’s no wonder the remnants haven’t disappeared.
While it’s certainly sad for the child soldiers, at least they had the option to choose to “fight with a gun.”
Look at this, everyone! The civilians being mercilessly burned to death by this world!
>>89The problem is that when you’re young, it’s hard to tell whether you chose for yourself or were chosen without realizing it.
Many enhanced humans may have no other place to live, so they might reluctantly volunteer.
>>89It’s quite late, isn’t it?
Being able to choose that for yourself is like a deception, or are you a senator?
Even though we can live peacefully on Earth, there are those who engage in guerrilla warfare.
In space, you would immediately face mass death, so you can’t afford to take the time to nurture like in modern Japan.
Soldiers still have human rights and honor.
The prostitute has nothing at all.
>>98I can’t understand the sense of saying that soldiers dying on the hellish battlefields of the Universal Century have more rights than prostitutes, regardless of honor.
>>104It seems that MS pilots are relatively well off, but the infantry are definitely in hell, as depicted in Igloo…
>>104Even in wartime appointments, they are regular soldiers, so a minimum level of treatment is guaranteed, right?
When it comes to which one is harder, there are various perspectives.
The soldiers are strong because of the Antarctic Treaty…
>>99This is Kanto-style cooking.
During the One Year War, the Earth wasn’t really in such a chaotic environment yet.
After ZZ, um.
In a way, it’s a criticism of India.
It says that women have no human rights.
Although it was necessary to survive, it’s surprising how harsh Bright was to Amuro in the beginning, yet they managed to become good friends later on.
Perhaps it’s the strong connection of having shared the same bowl of rice in life and death.
Lalah herself would probably have felt more fulfillment if she had died in battle.
It may seem like an extreme tragedy from the outside.
>>106Not meeting Char → Gradually weakening from life as a prostitute.
Meets Char but does not go to the battlefield → Experimental animal course at the Flanagan Institute
Meeting Char and going to the battlefield → I die young, but I’m the happiest.
The environment of the Universal Century is garbage.
>>106Since I could die for the person I love, it’s better than rotting away in a brothel.
In the world where, if left alone, humanity—specifically India—might even resort to cannibalism in the distant future, the values will also change depending on the time and region…
It’s a necessary job, but I wonder if a mistress is valued more than a public pilot…
Men can sell their asses too.
Bright is not that much older than Amuro, you know…
Even if half of humanity has died, sending 15-year-olds to the battlefield is…
It would probably be preferable to fall in love with a gentlemanly young officer and fight and die for that reason…
There are people who insist that selling one’s body is more painful than death.
According to that logic, there shouldn’t be anyone who sells their body to survive, right?
>>115It seems to be a matter of dignity.
>>121It’s a conversation about how many people would choose life over dignity when it comes to weighing them against each other.
>>115It’s harder than dying, but I’m afraid of death.
Quez has also trained in India and awakened to NT, so there is something in India that is comparable to Jupiter.
>>116Well, back in the days of the first generation, it really felt like there was something in India.
If we’re saying it’s better than 〇〇, then it’s safer for child soldiers who are not made to carry bombs and blow themselves up, so it’s a safety net.
>>117(However, until the ground warfare Jim arrives, I am told to fight against the Zaku with the Regin.)
>>117In a situation where, in reality, if one doesn’t become a child soldier, they would just die, the military might serve as a kind of safety net by comparison.
>>128In the Universal Century, whether we like it or not, child soldiers deliberately attack peaceful villages.
It is common to create child soldiers by killing their parents and leaving them with no escape, so the causality is reversed.
The future where Mira and the children can behave like military personnel is painful.
Whether it’s a prostitute or a soldier, it’s a story about not wanting to be forced to live an unwelcome life, right?
Even if it is harder than dying, humans can’t easily die, so there are times when they can be stopped even if they try to die.
I don’t care, but the name “Public” for the ship is not good.
Let’s change to the boats of the fearless men.
Even if soldiers return alive, they face an unhappy fate due to PTSD.
After tackling the fairly heavy theme of child soldiers in the first and Z, looking at ZZ in that context feels quite bold.
>>130Soldiers trying to make local children fight vs. children causing trouble that could result in fatalities.
However, Amuro and Char, who were involved with Lalah, will continue to be tormented by her in their dreams…
Well, it can be considered a sort of safety net in a time when being killed to reduce the population is better, but it’s still crap.
>>134It’s a given that it’s bad, but whether fighting in war is worse is a topic of debate, right?
When I was about the same small age, I probably would have disliked it, but it seems quite solid and leaves a good impression.
If those kids hadn’t defused the bomb, Jaburo’s gym would have been blown away, which is quite a fine play.
Choosing to depict child soldiers heroically while unconsciously having their bodies reject pilot suits, being treated as murderers by their mothers, or being called enemies by strangers and killing them is quite serious, isn’t it?
MS pilots are quite well treated, similar to fighter pilots, so they are considerably better off compared to other branches.
>>138That’s why the meals are also top-notch… which adds a seriousness to the drama.
I’m watching little by little, but I want to see up to Garma’s part.
It’s amazing that Gundam is starting to dominate against a large crowd, but the person seems really exhausted.
I wonder how many crew members died between the launch of the White Base and the end of the One Year War.
Even after being attacked by the Ral squad, I’m still getting hit and the maintenance soldiers are being blown away, huh?
The line “It’s not a human because it’s a Zaku!” seems like it could invite some criticism for being odd at first glance, but it actually carries a lot of pathos.
>>143It’s a situation where you can’t stay sane unless you think that way.
>>143If I let the protagonist say this now, they might get criticized as a psycho, right?
>>152There are similar scenes in Zeke Axus as well.
>>143According to Hiroyuki Hoshiyama in the complete collection of Gundam records, there was an anecdote based on the difference in sensitivity towards killing between infantry and fighter pilots.
The Universal Century is an era of population explosion, and it seems that the fewer people there are, the better it is in some respects.
It’s scary to shoot and kill a living person directly, but I can shoot from behind a Zaku!
You’re just making excuses to fight, desperately trying to look away from the fact that it’s murder…
Since the base is an old sci-fi from 40 years ago, there are quite a few aspects that don’t align with modern times.
>>147The issues of population, pollution, environmental problems, and the rights issues related to the Narita struggle are all richly incorporated with the social conditions of the time, aren’t they?
In actual warfare, due to the advancement and constraints of technology, people don’t die recklessly, and the enemy is also not visible.
I think the threshold for killing is lower in a war where defeating mobile suits ends it, rather than a war that feels like some kind of operation.
It doesn’t feel like it’s that recent, but maybe it’s because a Gundam that doesn’t let its protagonist kill people is just too tragic.
It’s fine to blow tanks away with drones in reality, but there’s a discussion about how it’s tough to directly target humans.
To be frank, isn’t it questionable to have children commit murder? This critique has been present in anime since the Showa era.
The overseas production of Gundam also depicted the cruelty of child soldiers.
It’s definitely easier to feel when you can’t see it.
>>154So that’s why Camille went mad.
>>154The reason the military has targets in human shape is also because of that.
Even drone pilots can end up getting sick after all.
It’s not something that actually happens in reality for children to go to war as soldiers, and isn’t it something that shouldn’t be seriously debated?
>>160It’s something that happened in reality.
>>162I’m sorry, but this is Japan.
>>168During the Pacific War, there was something called the Women’s Volunteer Corps, right?
>>168So what?
>>160Thinking that child soldiers do not actually exist is a lack of imagination on your part.
During World War II, it is written in textbooks that even very young girls and boys were sent to the battlefield.
Even now, in South America, Africa, and the Middle East, children are carrying bombs in exchange for cola.
Boko Haram, which has become a topic of discussion related to the Islamic State and has been frequently referenced by anonymous users, is also one of the largest operators of child soldiers.
I am grateful to have been born in a serious and peaceful Japan.
I think Zeke Axe is quite well made.
Well, it’s anime-like that there isn’t a single regular combatant.
I feel a bit uneasy about making the main character a military personnel from the start in a more realistic situation.
It’s quite complicated.
>>172I can’t help but feel that it has become even more unpleasant.
There were various groups like the Iron Blood Loyalty Corps and the Himeyuri Corps, but were you sleeping in history class?
>>173Surely, it’s because they grew up on the battlefield, so they haven’t learned.
>>173The Iron Blood Loyalist Corps → A minor unit mobilized in Okinawa for homeland defense with combat objectives (frontline duty).
Himeyuri Student Corps → A nursing and other support unit mobilized in Okinawa for homeland defense.
(Back-office work)
Women’s Volunteer Corps → An organization of unmarried women mobilized for labor in factories and farms (they do not go to the battlefield)
Just to explain…
>>173It’s not related to the topic of the thread, but isn’t teaching that kind of thing in compulsory education only done by teachers who are really motivated?
Even Amuro is Japanese, right?
Japan is essentially lowering the age for conscription when it is in a disadvantaged position.
Lalah is a prostitute, but she was raised with great care to become a high-class courtesan, a true professional from a young age. The clients she serves are also people of standing, so they demand education and refinement, making her somewhat akin to a courtesan or a tayū.
>>176Well, the person didn’t want that.
As expected, it’s a Mobile Doll…
There are stories about commander’s breaking down in tears upon finding out that there were 16-year-olds among the special attack soldiers.
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