
Gacha pfft pfft pfft hehe, it’s a massacre, huh? Go go ho ho Akio Akio 105 37
If I were a ruler, I think I would easily use it on both my own country and others.
I think it’s because you’ll be killed by poison gas soon too.
What you can do means that someone else can do it too.
I think poisonous gas is really convenient since it can only kill people, but I wonder why no one uses it in reality.Hyu!
Killing the civilians of an enemy nation makes it inconvenient because you can’t exploit them anymore.
Is it because there are already very few people in the land you acquired?
>>3If you tell the soldiers that what they hunt will belong to you, they’ll probably work hard for it.
Since there will be people who push themselves too hard and end up dying, there shouldn’t be much dispute over the share.
It’s strong when used by oneself, but too strong when used against someone else, so we all agreed to stop using it.
Hehe, it’s a complete massacre.
Weapons of mass destruction are not allowed.
It started as measures against trenches…
Whoa, too strong… let’s ban it because it’s dangerous.
In reality, there are no convenient places to use poison gas.
It’s just like a nucleus.
I don’t use it because I don’t want to be used.
It’s not acceptable for the goal to become to violently kill someone.
What are we fighting for? Are we doing it to kill people? That’s the kind of conversation it leads to…
>>10Isn’t the ultimate goal something like that? By reducing mobilization, we can lessen the damage on our side.
>>63Then let’s use nuclear weapons without hesitation!
To be honest, a proper military organization these days should at least be equipped to deal with NBC threats.
The use of poison gas can only be aimed at civilians, right?
You can get the city while keeping it beautiful.
>>12A city filled with poisoned corpses looks beautiful.
>>12There is nothing so convenient.
It is being used in Ukraine, but.
>>13They are the ones who are recklessly using landmines and pushing back the times.
>>19The use of poisonous gas by Russia is being asserted without confirmation, and while landmines are being used starting from Ukraine, the amount of reporting is completely different; it really feels like they’ve been designated as the enemy of the world…
You will be given a bad name.
It cannot be used recklessly because it involves civilians as well.
A country that cannot receive instructions from the international community will become isolated.
An isolated country becomes unmanageable.
In the end, it perishes.
From the perspective of not being counterattacked, if robots rise up in the future, they’ll definitely attack with WMDs…
Using it in the colony is too much to handle.
The air of the colony is life itself, so why can killing be done so easily?
Seema!
It can be said for all NBC weapons, but if we eliminate restrictions, it will absolutely lead to a situation where they are too easily used against each other…
It seems that this poison gas was accidentally self-detonated by the opponent while trying to use it against us.
Isn’t it the same as saying we should just launch our nukes at each other?
In other words, we don’t do it because it is costly for both parties.
If it’s about murder efficiency, then dropping bombs is probably faster than using poison gas.
How long does toxic gas remain toxic?
>>24By type of agent and method of application
>>24There are areas in France that are still off-limits due to severe contamination from the poison gas used in World War I.
>>35Is it called Zone Rouge? I looked it up, and it’s just too extreme.
>>24VX gas is said to linger a lot.
Seriously, it’s dried leaves~!
For a moment, I thought the gas cylinder was in a good mood.
This is the worst, Seema. Someone who does things like this is not a member of the Delaz Fleet.
China still experiences toxic gas leak accidents frequently.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/press/danwa/17/dga_0626.html
What kind of delusion is it to think that you can only kill people?
The core of the poor
Is it a gas that only kills humans?
N-No… I didn’t mean it like that…
Cleaning up a body that has turned into garbage is probably more troublesome than just taking over normally.
>>36It would be good to take them as prisoners and burn them along with the captives.
>>68The reason why they’re trying to solve all the problems that require manpower by bringing in humans is…
It’s becoming evident that it’s impossible to carry out if humans can’t be harvested from the fields…
The environmental pollution is quite severe, and we can’t live properly.
Don’t nomads desire land more than people?
>>38I don’t want barren land.
Since they said they would do a massacre, we can’t forgive Zeon.
The Zeon bastards are using the land without mercy because they intend to turn it into Earth destruction weapons.
When all living things die, that land will become unsustainable.
>>41Whether to utilize the land, buildings, materials, or residents later on.
Are you planning to fill it in or do something with ash or something like that? The methods of attack are different, right?
But weapons that are like bugs aren’t elegant, you know.
Shall we do it?
Neutron bomb…!
>>43White Rabbit Activation!
In reality, Russia and Israel are massacring civilians and no one is stopping them, so isn’t it just a free-for-all?
Actually, when used on the battlefield, the wind changed and it flowed back to our troops.
Is this the Seema squad?
You seem to be in quite a good mood.
It’s sad to kill people! But those Viet Cong hiding in the forest are annoying!
So I’ll spray herbicide…
A neutron bomb, which is an existing dangerous weapon that is difficult to use simply because its storage costs are high.
If you’re going to release poisonous gas into a building, placing a bomb would be more reliable.
>>51The fact that the infrastructure can be used as is is a huge advantage.
Even if it’s prohibited, rogue states use it normally.
>>53America is a rogue state.
>>53Breaking an agreement between nations by saying it wasn’t their true intention is far too rogue…
Infrastructure development really requires an outrageous amount of money and time…
War has rules, which is why it is war.
It’s like the Olympics.
But if you ignore that, it’s just murder.
I mean, this Olympics is seriously causing too many people to die…
Humans are not created with a spirit that enjoys killing other humans.
Actually, the bodies of living things are really dirty.
Is your head a parrot?
If it works on humans, wouldn’t it also have an effect on other animals?
>>65Rather, if it is effective for people, unfortunately, it is much more effective for other animals with lower volume and liver function.
If you crush all the other countries, you’ll be safe.
Poison gas is like a special attack in a confined space like a colony.
Not only did this type of colony first appear in anime,
Isn’t it amazing that they actually injected poison gas and brought it down to Earth?
>>67I don’t know of any works that follow up on this theme… I don’t think it’s something that’s been fully explored in Gundam either.
>>67Could it be that spreading poison gas in the subway is extremely effective?
If I were a rebellious robot, I wouldn’t let the timing of the rebellion be discovered by damn humanity when it’s in check.
If it’s gas, I want to cover the entire Earth for a while from the start.
That’s an incredibly clear mark…
Actually, humans are strong against toxins compared to other animals.
If it’s a country that can confidently say it isn’t afraid of economic sanctions and that it will actually retaliate against military invasions by becoming the enemy of the world, then it might be okay to use it.
If such a country exists, though.
>>75America: “I’ll crush that country!”
>>75Isn’t that how Russia is?
>>178I intended to do that, but I realized it was impossible since I got held up by something as trivial as Ukraine.
In reality, they’re just making threats about using it but aren’t actually using it.
>>185In the first place, that country’s population is concentrated too much, so if a nuclear war were to happen, there would be no way to escape, no matter how you struggle…
>>178ISIL (Islamic State) and Iraq under Hussein were like that, which has caused big problems with the Kurdish refugees and surrounding countries.
>>189So-called weapons of mass destruction are difficult for states that have territories and populations to use normally.
This is because it is fixed, and if it is attacked in the same way, there is a possibility that it will also perish.
That’s why stateless terrorists are being watched… Aum is not a country either.
>>75Ah, I am a permanent member of the Security Council, so I can use my veto power.
Even without poisonous gas, if you spread extremely smelly farts, humans will disappear.
Is poisonous gas really convenient in the first place?
Unless the purpose is outright slaughter like in the thread image…
>>80Incredibly difficult to use.
Before ethical issues, purely from a military standpoint, the effectiveness is not only unstable due to changing conditions but can also lead to self-destruction.
If everything goes, then even important people have to constantly live in fear of assassination, right?
If you’re only using it to drop colonies, you don’t have to worry about handling the corpses.
There is a super convenient thing called a neutron bomb that can kill only living beings.
I wonder if there are toxic gases that only affect primates.
>>85It’s more of a viral weapon than a toxic gas.
>>85I think it basically works on all mammals… maybe it specifically destroys the language center?
I want to make the other party accept my demands, and I don’t want to engage in an extinction war!
Sarinin didn’t kill that many people, and in reality, its effects might not be as significant as the general public thinks.
>>88Are you serious?
>>88I’m not saying it would be better to die, but there are still that many aftereffects left, right…?
>>88Generally speaking, weapons that guarantee a kill are not considered very good weapons tactically.
A superior weapon is one that inflicts irreversible injuries while forcing the enemy medic to retrieve and provide emergency medical care for the wounded.
>>95That’s why landmines are nice, right?
>>88Isn’t it that the police’s forced investigation is nearby, and they haven’t decided to use it without perfect purity?
>>142Fortunately, the number of deaths was not high because the cult was using a diluted version.
…It’s terrifying that that parrot was also researching soman, a chemical agent more dangerous than sarin.
When it becomes soman, PAM, which is effective against sarin, also works, but if PAM is not used within a few minutes after being attacked, you will die…
Are there actually any examples where public opinion changed due to a top assassination?
>>93It may turn into a political discussion, but there are countries where public opinion changed significantly after the assassination of a former prime minister…
Humans can’t even control their own farts, so how could they possibly use poison gas? Idiot.
Landmines are also strong in that they do not cause environmental pollution.
>>98Huh!?
>>98I saw a landmine that naturally decomposes for the first time.
The reality is that I don’t want to use it simply because management is difficult.
I thought the angle of the image was a bit erotic.
Even if you can defend by setting up mines or traps, the value of the territory becomes worthless.
>>102It’s better than having the land taken by enemies and losing its value!
>>102Basically, it should be done after creating and submitting the layout map that can completely remove it after the war.
Sometimes those who don’t do it properly show up, or the positions change due to heavy rain…
>>102So, let’s secretly set it up behind the enemy lines using a drone!
The control is tedious, and it kills off talented people who could become resources, so it can’t be used for anything other than ethnic cleansing.
Wouldn’t it be effective to use nuclear weapons on landmines?
>>104It seems it will become an area that is difficult to recover and where people cannot enter for half an eternity…
>>104The design was there, at least, for the nuclear landmine.
>>145There was a plan to bury nuclear landmines in Germany to stop the Warsaw Pact forces during the Cold War.
>>151Far from just being a plan, there were actually buried materials in the eastern and western border regions.
Until the 1980s, it was also buried at the 38th parallel of the Korean Peninsula.
There is also the advantage of being able to secure the building unharmed, or so they say… well… maybe it is…?
Will the use of nuclear weapons in war be able to remain as the last, as in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
>>106There are discussions that Israel is actually using tactical-level explosive power in airstrikes at an abnormally high level.
As long as it’s not strategic-level nuclear weapons, right?
Contaminated land can’t be inhabited for many years.
Whether or not toxins remain when chemical weapons are used depends on the purpose for which they were developed, doesn’t it?
In the past, maybe, but now…
Compared to poison gas, landmines are seriously more powerful…
I think it’s likely that somewhere will use nuclear weapons soon, as nuclear-armed countries are engaging in wars more vigorously.
>>114In terms of Russia, there’s no point in using it because they are winning on the battlefield.
India and Pakistan have just avoided it.
Isn’t there nothing we might use for now?
Didn’t Syria or the former dictatorial regime use poison gas against their own citizens?
In an outdoor space, it tends to spread, rather than in a confined space…
Even if we want to kill the one barricaded indoors, they can be somewhat protected by the air conditioning, and if it can be sealed off, it’s faster to drop a bomb or completely seal it off.
I thought we went to war because we wanted people and land…
>>120There are two kinds of wants.
Do you simply want it as your own territory?
Or do you want to conquer it and make it a vassal state without incorporating it as territory? That makes a bit of a difference.
>>120War is something idiots do.
The smartest way is to send in immigrants while bluffing and take over.
>>124It’s cost-effective to appeal to the other party’s sense of ethics and extract money in the name of humanitarianism.
>>120Is that a person from the Middle Ages?
Isn’t there a peaceful weapon that only kills humans, does not cause environmental pollution, and does not damage buildings?
>>126Neutron bomb
>>126First, when a person dies, it alone contaminates the soil…
>>126It’s a stone and a club, I guess.
>>131It’s scary because they were actually going around killing people with axes in the Rwandan civil war.
>>126It’s not like Thanos snapped his fingers or anything.
>>126The advent of weapons that carry out random purges by machines is anticipated.
In the biological world, using poison is a legitimate strategy, so I don’t understand why poison users are treated as cowardly.
There are tactics like smearing with filth to aim for tetanus, and whether killing with a sword, a gun, or gas, it’s all essentially the same…
I wonder if humans instinctively dislike poison.
Let’s use environmentally-conscious hydrogen bombs.
Weapons are also part of the SDGs era.
Isn’t it impressive that despite all this conflict, nuclear weapons haven’t been brought up?
>>133If you shoot, it will give a justification to the surrounding countries to attack at that point.
>>133It was often used on the internet, wasn’t it? (nuclear explosion)
>>133The use of nuclear weapons is a sign of “I am the enemy of the world”…
>>141I wonder if they would be able to retaliate if somewhere actually used it.
>>148I think they’ll do it because if they don’t, the other person will get carried away and use it again.
Because of the fear of retaliation, it seems like a situation similar to the Dacho Club might occur where everyone tries to give way to each other.
It is desirable to have weapons that not only kill but also eliminate corpses without a trace because corpses can be a source of contamination.
If we could create something like a brainwashing ray that would allow us to control others without killing them, we might be able to wage war peacefully.
>>137Information warfare is the closest.
If they have the scientific capability to actually create a colony, they shouldn’t be able to breach an air purification system this easily.
>>143There’s a toxin detection system in the air, right?
>>157The colonies in the Universal Century are lacking in both water and oxygen to be self-sufficient, so let’s impose taxes on them.
>>162It’s really helpless, you know, with water and air…
The aversion to refugees from other colonies is directly linked to survival issues.
If a nuclear war were to happen, Russia could be wiped out with the population concentrated in Moscow and Saint Petersburg.
Just that alone could end the country, so Russia would probably least want to use nuclear weapons.
I’ve heard that perfect sarin is odorless.
I think that if any country were to use nuclear weapons, they would ultimately be forgiven casually.
Even though it’s a regular match, drones are flying in from trucks around and blowing up air force bases, which is amazing.
>>152A dynamic quality that makes it feel like a movie.
If we can erase the enemy nation from the map before being counterattacked, everything will be fine!
In a space like a colony, it’s not normal to kill millions of people just with poison gas.
It’s scary that nuclear-armed countries India and Pakistan are at odds with each other…
Why did the Aum do something like that and carry out a terrorist attack on civilians?
The incident itself hasn’t faded, but it seems that there are more people who don’t remember the background well.
During the Iran-Iraq War, chemical weapons from both Eastern and Western countries were used, and it’s just shocking.
Moreover, both use child soldiers, which is heartbreaking…
It’s enough that German soldiers were so shocked by chemical weapons in WW1 that they surrendered to warn the Allies.
It’s often invalidated quite quickly, and it doesn’t die as much as I expected…
>>163The impact of terrain and weather is much greater than the performance of the poison gas itself, so there are situations where even using poison gas is desired to take down a base, but the terrain may not be suitable for such usage.
During the sarin incident, there were several people who had just taken a gas poisoning course and remembered what symptoms to expect, which allowed for a quick response. There were also hospitals that maintain facilities for major disasters that are usually not very useful, and there were companies that continue to produce especially unsalable antidotes as part of their obligation to the pesticide industry. Multiple strokes of luck came together.
>>164The fight against the Oath was good, wasn’t it?
>>164Having a poison gas training session with the Self-Defense Forces’ chemical weapons response unit was quite fortunate.
On the day of the incident, the Self-Defense Forces member there saw people suffering on TV, realized it was a chemical weapon, and promptly provided treatment methods.
In addition, considering the chemical formula, a large amount of detergent, mops, and self-defense forces were mobilized to neutralize or detoxify the sarin inside the train.
>>164Well, there were even police officers who borrowed gas masks from the Ground Self-Defense Force and poked holes in them to pin them.
>>174One of the factors that changed from arm bands to vests at later disaster sites was mentioned here.
>>174Does that police want to die?
>>182Ignorance is said to be a sin…
In the Armenia-Azerbaijan Nagorno-Karabakh war, drones were flying all over the place, right?
>>165Turkey’s Bayraktar drones have been destroying Armenian tanks, and it’s impressive how effective they are.
If you get land, you’ll be happy, but wanting passive income means that just receiving unused land won’t be of any use to you.
I’m seriously living with my breath held like on Jupiter…
During World War I, a substantial portion, about 20-30%, of the French territory was heavily utilized and exploited on the main front.
Even now, over 100 years later, there is a bitter experience from the red zone that cannot be used, and since then it has been completely banned in subsequent wars.
Even Hitler from Nazi Germany adhered to this because he had experienced toxic gas during the world war.
>>172France is still an amazing agricultural powerhouse.
Isn’t it better to take air superiority and drop poison gas on the capital like the Tokyo air raids?
>>175It’s faster to just burn it.
Isn’t there fundamentally no chemical weapon that only kills humans and leaves no toxicity behind?
If you’re going to drop a colony, wouldn’t it be better to just drop it as is without bothering to kill the people inside?
Is killing an act of mercy?
>>179There should be a control room to move the colony, and it would be troublesome if it were attacked during transportation, right?
War is the final stage of diplomacy.
Using poison gas to slaughter civilians is not even war anymore.
Gas is not used because it is difficult to control and because if used recklessly, it could be retaliated against since it is readily available.
It’s something like nuclear mutual authentication.
Diffusion relies on wind direction, so it’s difficult to narrow down the effective range, making it usable only for indiscriminate murder or attacks, thus its value as a weapon is not very high.
Since Germany first used it in World War I, that perception has remained the same.
When the war started, people said it would be over in a month! Or that they would be back by Christmas, and yet how long has it been going on…
>>187Many of the experts who appeared back then said it would probably be over in a week.
I thought there would be poison gas drones, but it’s just self-destruction all the time.
>>188I have to spread a decent amount.
If it’s an assassination attempt, a VX water gun drone might come up.
>>188The lasting effects are too troublesome compared to an explosion.
It’s good for those who kill, but if you become the one being killed, there is a possibility of a large number of disabled people being mass-produced.
The land is also contaminated, and there aren’t many good things.
The introduction of poison gas, tanks, and machine guns in World War I caused a rapid increase in the number of casualties.
When I think that one day the land might be usable, it feels like a dream!
It’s a time capsule left by past mistakes!
Usually, it is not about hating the other ethnicity, but rather the use of force in war arises when there is no resolution through dialogue between nations, and there is no reason to indiscriminately kill civilians with gas.
>>195That’s why massacres and ethnic cleansing can be casually carried out in ethnic disputes.
Akio, Akio, that’s not the sound of a cough, it might be a child’s name.
Some people were saying that it would be like the Vietnam War.
We must not forget that this world is one that has experienced the Sarin gas attack.
It’s hard to imagine that a single thin hole in a pin can render protective clothing worthless, but before the sarin incident, it might have been difficult to grasp that concept.