I knew the general flow and that Camille breaks down in the final episode, but still… first of all, everyone is just punching and hitting each other right away, it’s crazy.
I had already seen ZZ before, but I can assert that if you’re watching it in its entirety, ZZ is definitely more interesting; it’s at a level that’s quite gloomy, and there are many instances of mobile suit battles where they’re locked in a hold.
This is my least favorite place.
I feel like it might have been difficult to maneuver, even though the design is cool.
>>191I think it’s a result of faithfully adhering to the setting that you have to stick together to have conversations in the powder.
It is an era when people’s hearts are in decay…
(Why didn’t you shoot there? You could have won if you had shot, right?)
A lot of them are works from this era.
>>2It’s you! Always just watching from the sidelines! Playing with people!
>>2Since the bit weapons and beam rifles were distributed to both enemies and allies as a special weapon in the 1st, it has become really difficult to craft the story.
>>742The Z’s beam rifle basically just makes you go “ugh” when it hits, but doesn’t kill you… sometimes it does, though.
Is it the era…
There are really a lot of unnecessary violent scenes, aren’t there?
There was a decent amount in the first generation as well.
That’s why Z is often said to be harsh when looked at now.
Wasn’t there some frustration from Tomino?
That quickly turns into disappointment with adulthood at ZZ.
When viewed with prior knowledge, it’s strange how Camille becomes upset and everything turns out to be odd in the end.
The naive and somewhat kind-hearted Camille is being carefully broken down.
It’s a terrible, depressing anime that ultimately leads to a mental breakdown…
Mom is dead!!
They were killed, just like a little bird put in a cage!!
>>9I have a hard time grasping the meaning of “Hilda becoming a small bird!”
Dunbine, Elgaim, Z Gundam
Something like the flow of such a scenario.
But… what about a movie version!?
>>11The composition makes it feel like it’s not connected to ZZ or Char’s Counterattack, but putting that aside, the mix of new and old animation styles creates a sense of discomfort and makes it hard to watch!
>>11Saegusa Kimo
>>18“Mm… Camille, you’re not hurt, right?”
“Ha, you too, you’re okay too.”
“Are you really okay, Camille?”
“Ah, yes.”
“Camille, are you okay? You have both your hands and feet, right?”
“Once I replace the spare helmet, I can go out. Are you okay, Fa?”
“I can breathe properly too. Are you okay? Camille, Camille…”
>>75What is it?
What are you talking about?
All of Camille’s screams around the final episode are just too painful.
I had no choice but to shoot Rozamia, uahhh!!! It’s really tough.
>>12Every time I hear Mr. Tobita’s passionate performance around here, my heart tightens and fills with immense satisfaction, so I really like Z.
I was the most surprised.
It didn’t seem like there was anything with Fa.
When I kissed Fou, Fana also started kissing.
Having a lot of being held tightly is a bit…
I also watched up to the part where the mother dies, but there is no waiting and the violence comes out suddenly, so the sense of speed is amazing.
Huh, without any hesitation?
The first installment ended beautifully because it was popular, but since a sequel came out, they brightened up ZZ as a reflection on Z. However, since a movie was decided, the plans for Shahr and Amuro to appear this time were scrapped, and you can see the influence of the sponsors throughout the series.
>>17I thought that Char was supposed to counterattack at the time of Z, but since they ended up doing ZZ, it got postponed, and then with the movie being decided, it just kept getting extended further.
The Hyakushiki isn’t putting in any effort.
Z doesn’t feel that high-performance up to that point.
I thought it was a bit strange as a promotion for toys.
>>19Z’s first appearance scene is too ordinary.
>>19I think the 1st was promoting healthier toys.
When the old MS appeared in Jaburo, I wondered if there was a reissue around that time.
I feel like Emma is the one being the most violent when she gets involved.
What is that woman?
>>20“I feel a raw, unpleasant career woman in the comment that ‘men’s’ hysteria is unbecoming.”
It’s not good that the combat isn’t very enjoyable to watch.
Rather, there are times when the opponent’s machine seems more lively.
I feel like Quattro (in his real body) has more accomplishments than the 百式 (Hyaku Shiki).
A robot that can’t move now.
In the movie version, it becomes shorter, so it softens somewhat.
Lieutenant Emma is very kind, a good person, and speaks the truth.
Even Camille, who is the one throwing punches, says that Lieutenant Emma immediately throws hands, and she’s a person with no delicacy.
>>21When you feel like you want to be depressed, just read the last volume and you can be.
>>30It hits hard when you read it all the way through.
Since I saw the movie version first, I thought that Z Gundam didn’t exist by the time I finished watching I.
It was truly served with a sweet flavor.
>>5There hasn’t been a time before the blend that isn’t devastated!
A Z without NT correction has only a performance difference that would be deadly if surrounded by two Marasai.
>>27Even the Char board from 20 years ago said that.
Honestly, I think the movie version is enough…
>>37Apart from the mixed old animation, it’s a fairly decent version of Z’s compressed edition.
This anime gets increasingly interesting from Kilimanjaro.
>>27I see, that’s how you are.
Recently, when I saw it, I felt a connection between parent and child as my son was followed by my father in acquiring the new model.
It was mentioned early on that Kamille made the blueprints for the Z, but it really just kind of appears out of nowhere, huh?
There aren’t many instances of being caught in a cross choke.
Just leaves an impression.
>>27How about saying something like that as a set in reality?
Isn’t that Char? (Staff roll)!
Pew
Pew
Emma suddenly said something like, “Z sucks the heart.”
It feels like I’m talking nonsense before I die.
Even though Gundam was canceled, they made a movie and a sequel.
Thinking about it again, it’s quite difficult.
When I looked closely, I thought it was amazing that the Zeta managed to survive against Kyubele and the Zeta Plus.
Also, there isn’t enough activity for Psycho Mk2…
Didn’t you ever watch Z Gundam for a while and fall asleep while seeing the unmotivated beam rifle shooting combat?
I slept.
I was surprised at how nimble the Psyco Gundam is for its size.
It seems like the connection is a bit strange, as if they really wanted to express it with the amount of text more suitable for a novel, like in Dakar.
Some parts are really fun, but there are episodes where the story doesn’t progress much.
What is Char, who said there’s no freedom after the Dakar speech and then disappeared?
>>58There is no freedom in AEUG, so it disappeared.
>>58Weren’t you planning to do something with ZZ?
It just happened that the Reverse Char got canceled.
Well, even if it immediately leads to a development like Char’s Counterattack, what does it matter?
>>80In the initial plot, Judau is raised as an enemy while taking on the role of rebelling against Haman, so in any case, the question of what happened to the AEUG doesn’t change much.
>>87Was Hamaan feeling more pitiful?
>>105Since Char has boldly stated that he will defeat Hamarn, it’s probably true.
It’s strange that despite seeming to be infinitely on the side of the allies, Judoh’s final line completely negates his methods as being underhanded.
>>80It seems like they were trying to make Char’s Counterattack all along, but it kept turning into a different project.
>>58The AEUG, a haphazard organization that only aims to defeat the Titans, has become a sinking ship since the Gryps Conflict.
It’s admirable that you took care of everything properly until the Titans were defeated.
>>58
Sometimes the game’s ending is posted, but if Camille had remained in perfect health, it might have been okay.
I can’t take it anymore… Let’s do a purge…
>>158I think it’s a different interpretation of Tomino, but it’s a scene I wanted to see…
Lieutenant Emma… the sortie scene with Camille Bidan is one of my favorites in the Gundam series.
Most of the people in the Eugo are not bad, but…
It’s a type of trickster that has a prefix giving off that kind of feeling.
There are a lot of people without any leeway, so of course Camille will break.
When I watched the movie, Foe died, and pretty soon after, I kissed Fa, which was quite…
There was a feeling that anyone would do.
>>61If it’s not that much, it will break at the end…
>>27Imagination tends to be easily constrained by knowledge, so it’s okay not to bite back at those who are just hearing rumors.
It’s good to watch Zabungle.
The original series and Char’s Counterattack have really interesting battles, but Zeta is really boring.
>>64It feels like the movement suddenly became more realistic with various depictions, as if the first generation characters were involved.
The craziest move in Amuro’s history is probably the transport plane attack.
But I really like how they’ve handled the flow leading up to Camille’s breakdown; it’s done very carefully, so that aspect definitely gives me a sense of satisfaction.
Please stop with the bangs!!
I think “Get on the shoulder of the Hundred Type!” has more destructive power than being held down.
I feel like ZZ was wandering a lot due to Tomino’s involvement being too minimal.
>>69Quite consistently
“Why are children sent to the battlefield for the sake of adults?”
“I will fight, but I won’t fight for the AEUG.”
I think there was an axis like that.
Z felt that Camille’s axis was somewhat about wanting to be masculine, a kind of machismo.
It’s really unfortunate, but even though Camille is in this situation, it’s complicated that they are standing on the battlefield of their own will, so to speak.
During the first broadcast, it seems like there was some leeway because the promotional focus was only on the protagonist team’s mechs.
I’ve always wondered why they have these guys doing infiltration missions as pilots…
Huh hah hah hah…
Camille… I’ve got you!!
Episode 49 is great, isn’t it?
Everyone… everyone is dying!! Camille expresses the despair of a Newtype very well.
I generally like background music.
The theatrical version removed Four and Rosamia, so Camille’s mental state was protected.
ZZ is not more interesting.
>>83Eh~
At the beginning, I thought the gags were excessive, but it got really interesting around the time they arrived on Earth and before and after Pluto died.
>>103I understand that, but a two-cour like that is just crazy!
>>83Isn’t it ultimately a matter of preference?
Now I feel that Camille is my favorite protagonist, or rather, a character that I want to care for the most.
Actually, I’ve recently started seeing opinions that Kats aren’t that annoying, but still… they really get under my skin…
Beltorchika was annoying around Hong Kong, but I reconsidered during the Dakar speech.
Shinta and Kumu are also supposed to be brats, but it’s strange that they didn’t seem as annoying as Katsu.
It is said that Tomino’s depression came out in V, but I wonder if Z to F91 will be okay?
It starts to feel a bit off when I mistakenly identify Rozami as Fou…
If you keep worrying after killing Rozami, you won’t be able to go on (bright smile), and wow, the feeling of it being broken is intense.
>>88Don’t worry too much, even if I get a dry response after giving a salty follow, I’m still laughing with a disappointed face.
ZZ is like, how many times have Beacha and Mondo betrayed us? And Judau, how many times has he gone on missions without permission?
>>89Well well well… the way Bright-san tries to mediate with that kind of vibe seems a bit off too.
>>100When I read a novel, the inner thoughts and descriptions increase.
I can sense that Mr. Bright is hoping for another miracle like the White Base.
In the end, it’s only natural to be hit for trying to deceive and continue making children into weapon pilots.
Camille gave Bright a strange sense of accomplishment.
>>144“Look at the part that’s broken…”
>>89At first, it’s frustrating, but…
It seemed like it was partly the fault of Bright and the AEUG for trying to use that.
There must be a reason for Judoh going out without permission.
Compared to what is happening with Rina, the military’s position and situation are irrelevant, which is not wrong for the protagonist of an action drama.
If you say you’re not looking for action, then that’s that.
>>89It was a story from the early stages when the atmosphere was lighter, so it feels somewhat relaxed.
It’s going to be bad if it continues like this in the second half.
The protagonist who lost their mental stability and ultimately went crazy due to participating in the war is just too edgy.
I definitely can’t do it now.
>>91I won’t do it unless it’s someone strange like a bald person, regardless of the time.
>>91It’s one thing for a 1-cour anime, but doing it for 4-cour is a bit hard to imitate…
>>91It’s rare in anime, but I have the impression that war movies and novels are mostly like that.
>>152That reminds me of the end of Iron Blood…
Is it getting weird since before V?
I love Turn A.
>>92I did rehabilitation with Bren Powered before Turn A.
I think the battles while we’re on Earth are pretty interesting, one way or another.
>>93I think the space battles are really intense while Mark 2 is the main character.
If Katz hadn’t been there, Camille would have died about two times, so he’s not useless, but he is annoying.
>>94If you’ve really watched all the episodes, then Katsu actually feels like a reliable companion and Fuh leaves a stronger impression as the biggest troublemaker.
>>94I mean, there are way too many scenes where Camille would have died if his allies didn’t intervene!
The original Gundam properly embodies the qualities of a super robot anime, including Amuro’s personality.
Without a doubt, the one that formed the current image of Gundam is Zeta, but when asked if it’s a good anime, there are quite a few doubts!
>>95It’s the foundation of that genre, but when you look at it or do it now, it doesn’t really… fit.
The environment is crushing Camille’s future.
The temperature difference between the gloomy works and the not-so-gloomy works is incredible.
The BGM and mecha are cool, but looking back on the story now, I think it falls into the realm of being a terrible anime…
Yoshiyuki Tomino is not someone who really wants to make robots move wildly and have action.
>>104I don’t really like anime in the first place…
>>110Is that so?!
I’m going to lend my body to everyone! Camille’s voice is cool, but I’ve heard too many voices of the dead, and it’s just not good.
ZZ gets change with Haman’s hair down.
I’m surprised Rosamie is 17 with that.
>>115The backstory that during the time when UC Engage’s enhancements were weak, she was a loli-type younger sister character…
It somehow became the Z version after readjusting it.
It’s the same with the first generation, but seeing the original sources of the slang I found online keeps popping up, and I realize that’s where it came from.
It’s just a promotional anime that wants to sell Gunpla.
All Gundam series since the first one are like that.
Let’s try to remember it properly, okay?
>>117Since the first generation, it would include the first generation as well.
>>124It means “That refers to the first generation.”
>>135There were no Gundam models during the first broadcast…
Tomino loves writing the innocent child parts, but there aren’t many children related to the story, right?
>>118If you get involved, you’ll either die or have a terrible experience, right?
>>171Isn’t that person being too overly attached to the child?
What is it that military personnel so easily switch sides to the enemy?
Is it a lack of military education?
>>119Well, it’s understandable to defect from the Titans who are doing outrageous things like using poison gas…
I can imagine it, but I don’t really understand the specifics of what happened with Recoa-san…
>>145To put it simply, I’m messed up because of the trauma of being raped.
>>154It’s Quattro’s fault for not properly taking care of his mental health.
By the way, Reko has a tendency to be a risk junkie, and even though she came up with the idea herself, if she ends up suffering because of it, she tends to be a troublesome girl who gets depressed over it.
Jerrid wants to catch Camille and say something rather than defeat him.
I understand your feelings, but this is not something to do on the battlefield.
Is there a side story that depicts Char leading up to Char’s Counterattack?
>>122In recent works, there are various titles such as Johnny Return and Moon Gundam.
>>122The Return of Johnny Raiden…?
It’s said that it’s about depicting Char becoming the supreme commander…
>>122The game book “The Return of Char.”
>>97From here, a confusing battle of mobile suits begins, and before you know it, both sides retreat…
The interestingness of a story is subjective and comparing them is pointless, but in terms of combat, I think ZZ had more action.
Katsu is surprisingly active in the main story.
This guy is so important that there would be even more dead without him.
A character who mysteriously turns annoying again next week as their mistakes erase their contributions.
Even the ZZ scenario compressed in Eternal made me think that Beecha and Mond are really terrible.
At the same time, I had been mentioning the dirtiness of adults all along.
Captain Quattro keeps asking Bright if I should go out!
I feel like the main story isn’t really serving as a promotion, yet Z and Hyaku Shiki are incredibly popular.
>>130No joke, thanks to the appearance and the game.
When Camille is piloting the Mark II, the battles seem interesting.
Was the online reaction to the final episode of Z Gundam during its real-time broadcast really tumultuous?
The generation that watched this grew up with corporal punishment being normal, so even seeing someone getting hit is nothing unusual.
Aren’t you not thinking about it at all?
Even the kind-hearted adult position of Lieutenant Emma is impressive with that sharpness.
The plastic models sold too well!
I think it’s definitely impossible for the children to operate the Nael Argama by themselves.
It’s impossible even for a child.
It’s hard to understand the power dynamics.
I’m curious about the difference between beams that can cause fatal injuries and those that leave no damage.
>>149That’s just for the sake of the story, after all.
>>149In that respect, it’s just like the enemy’s bullets that conveniently don’t hit.
I think the final battle in Z had a series of quite abrupt developments.
The episodes are basically short!
In the final episode, when Katsu says that it’s no good to think just with his head as a spirit, I ended up thinking, “Well, Recoa is a useless woman who thinks with her uterus!”
Quattro, who has been watching Camille for so long, must feel exhausted by that outcome.
Simply put, Zeta and the Hyaku Shiki are cool.
I can understand the feelings of people who are crazy about mass-produced Z models and their successors.
The issue of the Hyakushiki not being active enough.
What do you mean by “I’m going to lend my body to everyone” in the first place?
It’s a dead person, are you crazy?
>>159Stop with the occult power-ups at the end!
>>164Amuro awakened to his precognitive abilities too.
Isn’t it fine that Camille awakened to spiritualism?
>>159Yes
I wasn’t sure of Karaba’s position, so I thought they were a civilian resistance group cooperating with Eugo.
Dunbine is completely wiped out, but it feels like everyone died to purge the malice.
I think it’s really thoughtless to blow up Jaburo with a nuclear bomb by yourself.
That wasn’t a place where you could just use it as bait and throw it away.
>>165General officers, be quiet!
Is it really possible for Captain Quattro to be alive after that?
I was totally caught up in the explosion, or rather, I was at the center of it!
>>166The end of the first generation was quite something, so all I can say is that that person’s survival ability is amazing…
The soundtrack is my favorite in the Gundam series, especially Z.
I’m not from that generation at all, but I can immediately tell which scene it was used in just from the intro.
There are too many scenes where you could just shoot with a beam rifle or stab with a beam saber and it would be over, right?
>>170It’s now, brother!
>>170There are often scenes where you escape from enemy battleships, but I can’t help but think that if you had just shot them there, it would have been over, right?
In works for adults, it can be said that a protagonist who goes insane due to war is even archetypal.
It’s quite rare in children’s robot anime.
Why make a sequel when it ended so beautifully?
Even though they say military personnel easily switch sides, I think there is a fair assumption that both the Titans and A.E.U.G are ultimately just fighting among their own within the Federation.
If they broadcasted this after completing the original in today’s era, it would probably ignite a huge firestorm.
Even though Shirocco was quite strong, in the end, it was defeated by being immobilized with supernatural powers and ended abruptly! It has a bit of a feeling of being cut short.
Roberto and Apolly both die easily…
Isn’t it going too far to say that radishes are falling and dying?
It had a bad reputation at the time too.
Char is weak, Amuro does not pilot the Gundam.
The battle scenes are just beams zipping around.
The story was consistently gloomy and made no sense.
>>180It’s similar to Char’s Counterattack, but now it’s quite positive, isn’t it?
Maybe thanks to games and plastic models.
I like Gabzray because it’s cute.
The move to have Camille join the AEU is just too chaotic no matter how many times I see it…
Z is the most involved in the occult.
Right now, I’m reading a manga called “Pulitzer,” which is a sequel to 1st, Z, ZZ, and Char’s Counterattack, and it’s really interesting.
Some may have a dislike for the fact that the anonymous person only recognizes Gundam from the anime.
The story revolves around what the characters, who no longer appear at all in later works after finishing their roles in the anime, thought about Amuro’s death, as told by Kikka.
Now, Camille and Fa have just introduced Kikka to Beecha, Mondo, Iino, and El.
The battle BGM for fleet battles is cool too.
The Z Gundam anime is largely supported by its coolness.
I love it… because it’s my name…
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