Aren’t the pilots generally placing Amuro on top?
>>1It feels special that UssO was educated as a gifted child.
>>1Well, that’s a category where there could be differing opinions, like with Char or Gato or Shirocco.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if Kamiyu were to ride in a new type of occult machine designed for Newtypes.
>>2Shall we try riding a unicorn?
>>7Rather than preventing the colony laser, it seems like it could transfer the colony laser to another dimension altogether.
I don’t quite understand the greatness of Kamiyu.
>>3With just Z, it can hijack the aircraft or use the Hyper Aura Slash, but with ZZ, it can send thoughts far away into space and grasp the situation to guide Judau and the others.
>>4Are you crazy?
>>4In that case, won’t Rina also become one of the strongest in NT?
Will it become…?
First of all, the definition of the strongest new type is ambiguous.
It’s not just a matter of simple combat power.
I tried to make him an omnipotent being, but the vessel couldn’t withstand it and broke. However, since it’s the evaluation of the bald man, I think Camille was in a fairly capable state when he had that watermelon bar with Scirocco.
I think this was the only one capable of defeating Sirocco at that point.
I think Judo is doing just as many funny things as Camille is.
>>10It means that since it stopped at a place where it can maintain a healthy mentality, it probably couldn’t become Camille as an NT.
Expanding senses to adapt humans to living in space.
Even if you maximize it, you won’t reach a level to grasp the universe from the ground…
>>11Personally, I don’t like it when things go too far into the occult.
When you reach the ultimate level of NT and enhance your sensor and antenna functions, you can start communicating with the spirit world, and since that place has all the information about the past and future like the Akashic Records, I believe you can understand anything.
Fukuda decided that the reason Banana flavor was able to return from the mysterious space was because the thread image had left a clone at the gate.
The sharpness of sensitivity is directly related to the height of Newtype abilities, but it feels like a pencil lead that is too thin has broken.
They have an image of being violent, but they are actually a kind child.
If the family was harmonious, we would have overlooked Jerid’s blunder.
>>15In the beginning, I was the most edgy due to my home environment and other factors, but I gradually grew and became more settled since then.
However, the surrounding environment was too harsh and broke down.
It’s somewhat strange that you can defeat Shirocco, who should have quite a disparity in strength, just with sheer willpower…
I didn’t really understand it just from watching the movie trilogy.
The line “Finally moved!” made me happy after watching the anime.
It must be regrettable for Shirocco to have been killed after his machine was forcefully hacked by some strange occult.
Why can I take you down with me…
Camille is often regarded as a mediocre pilot due to his Newtype ability being overly focused, but he has demonstrated high skill by shooting through the cockpit of the Psycho Gundam in one strike and cornering Haman without any occult assistance.
The greatness of the NT pilot is not just in being able to read movements or having sharp reactions.
I ended up shifting to being able to cause occult phenomena.
>>23Mind reading and high reaction speed are included by default, so there are limitations to differentiating those aspects visually.
He admits that there was nothing he could do about it himself.
It’s just a family environment that makes my heart unstable from the very first story.
I can understand if we’re talking about within the old type, but I don’t think there are many people who would consider Gato the strongest pilot overall.
Of course, Shirocco is amazing as a premise.
It’s probably because it’s Camille that the curse at the moment of death really took effect.
Newtypes are just tools for killing. No matter how you look at it, they only have the ability to efficiently kill people. What is this human innovation? It was a mistake.
Even Scirocco, being a Newtype, must have been able to read Camille’s emotions.
>>28So instead of just feeling empathy in a nice way, I’m going to drag you down with me! That’s typical of Shirocco.
Although I had high Newtype abilities, I couldn’t become a Newtype until the very end.
Beam Confuse! is a technique that isn’t related to NT abilities.
>>30Techniques that Usso might attempt.
It’s funny how Quattro instantly recognizes anyone with a Newtype presence as either Amuro or Lalah.
Camille had the potential for madness, so it feels like they could do outrageous things with NT abilities.
Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is a separate matter…
Well, even if I say I’m the strongest pilot, since it’s all one-off machines, the aircraft is also part of the package.
What can be compared is probably “who is riding what.”
In that regard, Newtype abilities are understandable because they can compete on a common playing field.
Sirocco gives an impression of being specialized in pressure as a Newtype.
>>37(Removing the sunglasses from Megabuzz)
If it’s a fair fight, Camille might actually be the strongest…
>>38No, compared to Won, Judoe is stronger.
>>38Why can’t you say I’m sorry!
>>43Still, that’s too much hitting!
If your character is rotten, having NT abilities won’t do any good.
I can only think that since I understood it, I have no choice but to kill this guy, especially with Shirocco involved.
I thought Lalal was better.
>>42Lalah is more like the ideal Newtype than the strongest.
It appears that Scirocco’s positioning of Jerid as a rival and final boss like Char is a desperate measure stemming from not being able to establish him as such.
>>45I believe that as a result, someone who uses the abilities of a “Newtype” to deceive people or to play with war is precisely the enemy that Camille must defeat.
Well, even though people say the target is big, shooting in space is actually…
The distance might have been unusually long…
Being able to skillfully control a robot is NT, isn’t it?
Judau, filled with anger from his sister being shot, grew gigantic and shook the Earth, and then made Hamarn cry…
Isn’t the depiction here strange!?
>>49I guess it was a time when that kind of thing was reasonably common… there’s no choice but to see it that way.
Did Lala’s NT ability seem that high?
Aren’t you only showing your true strength after almost dying?
>>50I think the NT abilities are quite high because they can predict the future like Tifa.
Even as the strongest Newtype, there is a strange balance where I can’t win against Wonley-san’s bare-handed fighting.
>>51If there isn’t a role to break someone’s nose, then I don’t like Camille’s design and setting as it is.
>>51Even the top-class NT, Lala, was just making a living at a gambling hall during peacetime, so being an NT doesn’t mean that everything goes well.
>>80Wasn’t she a prostitute?
Just a novel?
>>85In Origin, I was raiding casinos under the mafia.
I wonder if they could have given Jarid a more fitting backstory if they had planned for him to be the final boss.
>>52It would just be becoming Burn Bannings.
It feels like the big names don’t really like to set up who is the strongest or the best, but they repeatedly say Camille’s Newtype abilities are the best in the Universal Century.
Lalah’s NT ability is somehow like a terrifying念 that strengthens after death.
Since Lala died, she’s rather a malevolent spirit, you know.
Lalah gives off the impression of sending out some kind of toxic waves.
>>59Basically, there are times when I’m a bothersome woman.
Isn’t the part of Shirocco that attracts people unrelated to Newtypes?
Camille is too delicate as an NT, so that’s why it’s not ideal.
>>62There are many places where I wish the roots were a bit crazier…
Camille really has an amazing character design.
I think this character provides enough persuasive power to say that this guy is indeed the strongest NT.
>>63I’m invincible! I can face off against the bosses from the previous and next works unscathed! It’s a double-edged sword of a character that crushes even Sirocco with an even higher level of Newtype ability, causing their mental collapse.
The image in the thread probably shows that the existing NT can use all the abilities that were created within the story.
It feels like an overly superior Newtype can’t live long.
In the first place, NT abilities have two stages: sending and receiving.
>>68There are also those like Arlette who understand the heart of machines…
The movie version of Camille might be a fairly ideal NT.
>>69I think Tomino draws with that intention.
Aren’t you a bit too specialized in combat?
>>72Camille is rather an ideal newtype who can use power not just for combat.
Amuro after the first series is too specialized.
>>72If it’s about Camille, he can predict colony drops, send telepathy and support all the way from Earth to Axis, and do various things!
>>72Camille is more of a type that can do anything.
That’s why it got too inflated and broke.
In the final stages of Z, Camille’s lines have an overwhelming power.
I keep hearing lines that I’ve heard before popping up one after another.
>>75The momentum to only spit out quotes and clichés.
>>83I just finished watching Z the other day, but this person really only speaks in clichés…
The new translation of Camille is really stable, isn’t it?
What was it again that I did SEX with Fa?
It’s pretty amazing that Kamille was holding his own against the elite Titans from the start.
>>82Camille, Quattro, and Amuro are often said to be weak, but compared to the One Year War, where there was only about a month of actual MS battles, their era has developed a group that is skilled in MS combat, so the average quality is different in Z.
It’s only natural that inexperienced Zaku and GM pilots don’t go down easily.
>>89There are characters that appear with a presence like seasoned veterans in the first generation, but as MS pilots, they have only been active for about a year at most…
It seems like Camille and the full psycho frame would melt in no time.
Amuro awakened his NT abilities during battle, so he already knows how to use his NT powers in combat from the very beginning.
Even though my mental state is already full with thoughts about Fou…
When an older sister regressed to toddler behavior and approached saying “big brother, big brother,” it’s no wonder it would mess with your mind.
>>87Camille was relatively working hard to accept it.
The fact that my sister became an enemy and I had to kill her with my own hands broke my spirit.
I think Ussop has the toughest spirit.
You have the talent to kill people.
The contradiction of receiving great damage to the heart every time I kill someone.
>>91It receives everything and anything, you know.
>>91It’s not originally a talent for killing people, you know…
>>91Is the ideal something like Basque?
I spontaneously got a watermelon bar (referring to something done on a whim), but I’ve always thought that if Kamille had used his skills at the end, he could have easily defeated Char.
It’s not that I struggled for a popsicle, but somehow a lot of evil spirits came toward me! Popsicle! That’s how it is.
>>94It’s impossible if something doesn’t happen.
>>94That said, I think it will be tough since Shirocco is really strong.
>>94Shirocco’s skills are extremely high.
If Camille and Judau were in Char’s Counterattack, they’d probably trigger a psycho-hack against Sazabi.
If you receive a large amount of death thoughts from colony lasers and poison gas, it’s no wonder if one or two of your heads go crazy.
It’s just a speculation, but I think the main reason Camille is the strongest Newtype is because their boiling point of anger is closest to that of the bald guy.
The NT’s predictive thinking attack is like strangling the opponent with a communication cable.
That guy hasn’t even taken a hit against Sirocco or Haman.
>>103I mean, there’s no place where I’ve been hit other than the watermelon bar.
It’s not that Kamille is weak, but rather that Shirocco and the Geo are simply strong, and defeating them head-on is quite tough.
It’s probably just a top pilot and aircraft from that generation.
I think we can’t win if we fight fairly because we’re being warned that the power difference is too great.
On the contrary, as a result of the internal conflicts within Z where the elites in the federation and remnants of Zeon fought each other, the scale of subsequent conflicts continued to shrink and their proficiency decreased.
I’m confident I can hit and take it down easily, so a simple weapon should be fine, right, the O?
>>111Actually, it’s because I’m assigning other roles to my wingman, so the armament is simple.
Gates, who broke down mentally before Camille.
>>112If a teammate gets shot down and breaks, that’s one defective product, Murakame Lab.
That guy with the ridiculous hair naturally starts shooting down bits, you know…
It is said that Shirocco’s treatment of Char as a failure of an NT has led to an unjust lowering of his evaluation.
>>115But was there anything that showcased Char’s NT abilities as amazing?
>>115It might be a jab, but there’s probably no one other than Scirocco who can say such words to Char…
>>115To be honest, as an NT or rather as a pilot, the level of completion of Shirocco is honestly off the charts.
If it weren’t for the garbage-like nature of indulging in pointless games, humanity could have been guided.
>>115Sirocco is already declaring that the orphans of Zeon are no longer needed in this era, even before considering NT abilities.
>>127But to be honest, when I think about whether I want to be with those who strive to stand on their own feet and aim for independence, or those who cling to outdated bloodline supremacy while believing that Lord Dykun’s son will lead us…
By the end of Z, you can tell that the Newtype abilities are becoming so heightened that they start to suffer from mental illness, and they even act as if they are channeling the thoughts of the people on the battlefield, empathizing too much.
At some point, the person started to believe that Newtypes have to save people.
It’s just that there are discrepancies even with Quattro, who believes it’s enough for people to just be Newtypes.
Seeing the evil New Types who are equal to or greater than myself, I push myself because I realize that how I conduct myself is important.
The collapse itself is something that cannot be avoided no matter how much one struggles.
When I was riding the Messala, I deliberately did a barrel roll centered around the beam to dodge the Mega Buzz with sunglasses on, even managing to taunt with ease.
Sirocco is casually shooting down funnels that you probably have never seen before.
While I was on Jupiter, I was probably looking at the battle records of the One Year War and thinking about countermeasures against Bit.
The answer is to shoot it down with a rifle.
Well, it’s true that Char’s NT abilities are incredible.
It’s almost purely for combat without the ability to reach mutual understanding from the 1st.
Going to visit the theater directly is going too far.
>>126I want to watch the new type of battleground from a prime seat…
I think it’s quite a loss of self-control to start provoking others on your own.
>>126But hey, even if you’re anonymous, you definitely want to see it live, right?
>>150No way… I’m not the type to barge in with a gun; I’m only recording everything like this to post online.
>>150It’s a foolish act to start a thread on a bulletin board when a major earthquake occurs.
>>150I’m a loser, so I think, “I guess I’ll shoot a beam at this unmanned MS just in case…”
It’s not like I’ve gone through the hell of the One Year War like Amuro, so honestly, if I quit this foolish hobby and seriously devoted myself to practice, I could probably become a strong contender for the strongest.
Well, it seems that the enhanced humans of the Z era are undergoing such intense modifications that they can’t avoid collapse unless they have a strong pillar of self-identity.
If your true nature had been decent, you could have become a great person, Shirocco.
>>130There are hardly any decent people in that era!
It’s questionable whether we could have defeated Sirocco without Camille using foul tactics.
Sirocco and Hamarn are about equal in rank, I guess.
>>133Hamarn also becomes quite outrageous in ZZ.
I wonder what would have happened in the psycho battle between Shirocco and Haman if Katsu hadn’t intervened.
>>136My favorite battle in Z.
>>139A showdown between final bosses is definitely an exciting situation.
>>136We’re both defenseless, but since Recoa and Sara are here, won’t Hamarn be taken down?
…What are those guys doing right in the middle of the battlefield?
>>136Sirocco, who has Recoa and Sara with him, was in a favorable situation, but…
With a cool expression, dropping Haman’s funnels on the first try can only be described as monstrous.
If Lady Haman is shot at full power by the High Mega from close range, there’s no way to avoid it unless you scream “Woooaaaah!”
>>140It’s strange that it can be prevented in the first place.
>>140Isn’t it a bit strange?
Haman is an abnormal lover who challenges Judau with a modest use of funnels.
>>146By the time I encountered Judo in space, I was already halfway satisfied…
It doesn’t seem like it was intentional, but Rosami feels like a mental weapon specifically designed to counter Camille.
In the final stage, mental issues related to Rozami are coming in like an avalanche.
I think Katsu has quite good combat achievements.
>>148Because it’s somewhat good, it’s rather bad.
>>148Rather, it’s good that they can fight, which makes it difficult to put them in a good machine.
The moment I came into contact with Jude after being in a dazed state, I quickly recovered and even ended up advising Jude; it must have been a truly shocking NT.
>>149The most surprising thing about ZZ was that Camille, in a vegetative state, was incredibly helpful through telepathy.
Considering Hamarn’s lack of practical experience, it’s quite abnormal, isn’t it?
I want to see Haman who didn’t receive an offer from ZZ’s final boss…
Both Shirocco and Haman casually use NT powers to bind their opponents, which is funny.
That being said, Char really doesn’t have a strong image in the TV anime itself, especially from the Texas Colony onwards until the end of Zeta.
Even if NT abilities are strong, they don’t seem very interesting; they feel more pitiable instead…
It’s not really something to brag about that the other side is better!
Aside from Camille, I have the impression that characters like Lalah, Judau, Shirocco, and Haman have higher NT abilities.
After that, it’s Amuro at the 1st point.
If you awaken your NT abilities, the first thing you should probably do is train in creating a locked account rather than killing people…
>>164Do you aim to be a Buddha?
The NT ability declines with aging, doesn’t it…
>>166In the end, since the brain is in control, it’s only natural that it would happen if brain cells start to die off.
Banaji almost turned into Camille, but it seems he was able to return safely under good conditions?
>>167It doesn’t seem like they are as sensitive as Camille.
I personally don’t have the impression that the aircraft is just too occult and that its NT abilities are exceptionally amazing.
>>167According to the author, Camille has placed her own double as a guardian of the entire space, which seems to be why she was able to return.
Fukui himself also believes that the strongest Newtype is no one other than Kamille, so that’s probably why he did it.
>>184(Isn’t the level of the conversation quite high…?)
Hamarn seemed to be the closest to a true Newtype, even from Judau’s perspective, as long as she could let go of her grudges…
From Hamarn’s perspective, Judau is the true Newtype.
I wish I could have held onto the reflection from my first battle, but since I could fight, I ended up getting a bit carried away in the second half.
>>170There is indeed an issue with having too little fighting power, but simply put, Katsu is just strong.
Despite having only very little flying experience, they’re fighting with incredible maneuvers.
I can’t compare, but I wonder how high DOME-san’s NT was.
>>171DOME-san, who continues to exist there even after death, is just on a different level, so to speak…
It’s unclear whether Amuro has deteriorated due to aging or if it is because of the decay from living under house arrest.
It feels like Katz exhausted his Newtype abilities when he helped Amuro at A Baoa Qu.
Katz learned the bad things about Amuro and Camille…
>>174Because I might get too excited on the battlefield, that’s something about Kats…
Banana-flavored-kun also has a vibe that makes it seem like he won’t live long.
>>177I think being in a crystalized aircraft would have a negative impact on the human body, even if you were to return safe and sound.
Capacity Overload
The fate of those who strive for omnipotence and the power of the foolish masses. The protagonist of “Mobile Suit Z Gundam,” Kamille Bidan, is described as “a temporary facilitator” and “the greatest abilities.” Is he truly “the greatest ability user” among the Gundam series’ particularly distinctive protagonists? Of course, Kamille is far from being a truly omnipotent being. However, there were moments, albeit brief, when Kamille aimed for omnipotence, and that has changed us in the present. In the near future, individuals like him do not possess the capacity to aspire for omnipotence. Consequently, Kamille’s spirit has expanded, but as a result, he could not fully encapsulate the omnipotent figure within himself during the story. Even if such depictions can be interpreted, they cannot surpass this human limit as it is presented.
It has a name like a girl’s, doesn’t it?
When viewed as a whole, Camille, you’re trying to help, but you’re missing everything.
There, the burden increases with the addition of the values of good-hearted new types!
I wanted to see what would happen if Camille handled funnels or Psycho Frame machines.
>>186I wanted to see how far Shirocco could have fought if he hadn’t lost to the occult.
Judou is too strong when it comes to the vibe of stubbornly living.
Even though it’s true that Shirocco is of a certain age, he has high Newtype abilities, so it depends on his own potential, doesn’t it?
It doesn’t feel like Char’s abilities changed much during the Quattro era or the CCA era.
Amuro is clearly getting dull.
>>188Sirocco’s abilities may be the result of being forged in Jupiter’s harsh environment.
It seems that Camille would quickly break if piloted in a machine like a unicorn or one with 3000 times sensitivity.
>>190Before that, the aircraft might overheat and cause a terrible phenomenon.
If you have too much communication ability, it can lead to mental health issues.
You need to have a mental strength like Shirocco, where you look down on others and don’t care about what anyone says, otherwise it will be tough.
If you put Camille or Judau in, something really bad is definitely going to happen with the full Psycoframe.
Right now, Sharible could be in the top 5 for both pilots and NT.
Katsu is weak, yet he gets carried away, thinking that he can easily deal with poor opponents due to his skills, but it’s actually his youthful sense of justice, impulsiveness, and romantic feelings that drive him forward. This makes him quite troublesome; he has a personality that just won’t stop until he gets into an accident and dies.
You can’t let Camille pilot a Mobile Suit in extreme conditions; they’re all bad.
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