If we had come to this era, we would have probably completed the Hammurabi.
It is apparent that they are plotting to take over Zeon.
If it really existed, it seems like it would be used as a stepping stone for Sharia Bull.
>>2Well, I guess I’ll be brought down like Cap.
>>2This is it, right?
I just didn’t want to get involved with topics that could really cause an uproar.
Hammurabi is treated more as someone who repaired it rather than created it.
Perhaps on the Ziegax side’s assumption…
>>3There are things like why that design comes out from the Augusta lab, so it’s not something to think deeply about.
It seems that the adjustment of the transformation system in GQ was proposed by this person.
It’s impressive that you can do it in 0.5 seconds, even if you’re just folding your legs.
Isn’t it fine to put this guy out there, considering that the MS of the Z era was used as a decoy for the MA from the One Year War for various reasons?
>>4Cicero has been renovated.
Whether the achievable goal is reached or not.
I wonder if Shirocco will cause trouble after that…
>>7If the world is at peace, then we will just go to Jupiter again.
If the world is in turmoil, we can play around, and when it’s over, we can embark on a journey to the stars and never come back, so in the long run, it’s harmless.
>>7If we eliminate both Gihren and Kizilya at the same time, there won’t be anyone with the ambition to take the top position, and it seems like the radicals will unite and take action.
It seems like Matyu is not interested in children.
>>10It seems that she was treated like a younger sister and was loved dearly…
>>33I felt a sisterly sensation + I also saw it from a slightly sexual perspective.
It’s convenient because you can accelerate the era to 0087 anytime just by bringing out the Shirocco.
No matter how much the world’s technology level decreases, if that guy brings it in, it will go back to normal.
>>11Well, it’s precisely because Sirocco had the underlying technology that it was able to independently develop the same technology as the Earth Sphere.
Since the prerequisite technology like magnetic coating doesn’t exist yet, it won’t go as smoothly as in the official history.
>>12Since Gundarium Gamma and the movable frame were developed independently, it seems that Shirocco could probably come up with something like magnet coating and create it.
>>11But if we don’t kill it there, it seems like we could shorten it significantly until F90.
Aren’t we already overlapping roles at the point where we’re destroying the power structure as a precursor?
Is there really anyone who gets angry about Shirocco being used as a pawn…?
>>17It seems like Anno-kun is particular about the depiction in the play and seems loud.
>>19Sirocco is being serious and bothersome about not getting hit even once.
>>17It’s probably a tremendous amount.
If you make the thread image a bait, it automatically lowers to the level of Char, Haman, and Camille.
>>20Class or status.
>>20If it becomes a three-way battle, Char will lose.
>>20You’ve probably hit rock bottom with UC Engage, haven’t you?
>>17Sara might get angry…
>>17Even if it’s rotten, it’s still the final boss.
Quattro is struggling too.
>>22Rather than struggling, Quattro was completely at a loss.
>>17If a machine that has only been upgraded from an old-style MA can be瞬殺 by the green uncle, then that means it’s stronger than Quattro, right?
Isn’t the green uncle the angriest?
He’s the kind of guy who even makes Angel Hyloh in a spin-off.
I’ll build a psycho frame while picking my nose.
Even the Black Tri-Stars were slightly burned, so making the main antagonist Sirocco a mere stepping stone is too much like a Mary Sue.
It’s the one that Camille finally killed with everyone’s help.
>>25This guy hasn’t been hit at all until now.
I even shot down a funnel on my first encounter.
Conversely, it probably can’t be used because Shariaburu is instantly defeated.
The characters appearing in Zeke Axus are all too weak.
In the end, what Shirocco created is merely unique and there are already other experts who have put it into practical use.
I have the impression that they can only create something like a historical inevitability that combines technology and resources or technology and technology.
In the portrayal of the story, the only chance to properly defeat Shirocco was when Katsu took advantage of the opening while Haman was engaged in a fight.
For now, I need to prepare for Haman.
>>31It’s about either placing a new type of the same level to create a balance and looking for openings, or using a higher-level new type to take control of the machine.
The latter is only Camille.
No matter how much you hype Sharia Bull, since you’re placing Char above him, it’s impossible for Shirocco to surpass that Char at the same level or even higher.
I wonder which girl’s back she would hide behind if the thread image came back now.
…Kyshiria?
>>36They said that Haman is not a woman, and it’s even more impossible for Kshyria-sama.
On the contrary, I want to see how far a man like Sirocco can maneuver with just his words against the cunning Zabi family.
>>37Was he really as cunning as they say…?
>>42Hmph… Cut the jokes…
I don’t want the part where skill and technique are top-notch but personality is the worst to be compromised anywhere.
If Char is stronger than Quattro, it wouldn’t be contradictory.
If you could instantly defeat the thread image, you’d be at a level where you could be the strongest in the true history, right?
Even Amuro can’t do that.
>>43But watching the latest episode, I think Sharia Blue from Gikax can do it.
That person is a Mary Sue.
Shirocco appears before a mother whose daughter has become a terrorist and whose social status has been completely destroyed.
This guy just has an extremely strong final impression; he can handle the funnels on his first try, and he switches over from the Messara without a scratch, so he’s pretty reckless.
I used to think that I didn’t want a woman who couldn’t be manipulated like a puppet.
Lately, I’ve been thinking that it might just be impossible unless she’s a woman I can truly support.
I heard somewhere that Sara was seriously fond of it, which slightly changed my impression.
>>48Well, Sara was killed and I was really pissed off…
>>48Right after being killed, I was undoubtedly emotionally trivialized.
It’s a pretty ridiculous skill to repeatedly apply mysterious pressure that makes you want to remove the mega buzz.
>>49In the first place, it’s crazy to think you could hit a battleship that’s thousands of kilometers away.
>>49Sirocco put a lot of pressure on Quattro, making him miss the Mega Bazooka, and because of his remarks about the failure of Newtypes, Char’s evaluation as a Newtype was lowered.
That’s not it, but they’re actually seriously in love, a troublesome type…!
I feel the defeat of compulsory education from those who say they might become a pawn despite being banned from entering because I don’t want them to be a pawn.
>>55It’s shocking that the Psycho Gundam was easily defeated.
I won’t let the one who Camille went to such lengths to defeat be treated as a mere stepping stone, right?
I’ve realized recently that I don’t really want to be a fixer.
This guy is really good at taking care of the person who picked him up.
You are too kind to Jarid and you are also doing what Rekoa wishes for.
>>57This guy is compatible with Yazan and is kind to his allies.
Therefore, I could only make Camille my enemy for the sole reason that he treats war as a game.
>>57I think it’s pretty amazing that Yazan’s impression has ended up being quite good.
It’s not that they are an all-purpose genius, but they are reasonably talented.
Ms. Katami Misato
>>59The clothes…
That guy is a monster who can take out funnels at first glance.
The mysterious pressure is too unique to Sirocco’s abilities, and I can’t help but think that this guy might be a different kind of psychicker than NT.
>>63Sirocco is a strange guy whose NT abilities, like spirit world communication, aren’t very high.
>>69There are various types of NTs, including those with high reception ability and those who are strong in psychokinesis.
I think there are times when Char is strong and times when he’s not so strong, so I can’t definitively say he’s below Scirocco.
Maybe the average is lower.
It may be that the Quattro period has a way of life that is too casual.
If even the oblivious Shuji is so swayed by Nyan and Machu, then Sirocco, who is aware of it, is definitely a potent drug.
>>66There is a charm that comes from being unaware, but Shirocco gives me plenty of what I want.
It’s not that they are extremely malicious; they just enjoy the war.
However, since it becomes difficult to talk if they stay, they were treated as a presence that shouldn’t be there.
I don’t think this version of Char would be called a failure.
It’s uncertain whether just fighting will allow survival; it seems there’s a decrease in the sense of vindictiveness.
I mean, we don’t even have enough time to show Sirocco and wrap things up.
Because I can’t live desperately, I end up showing a smirking attitude even towards my true partner.
If it’s Shirocco, he would fight evenly against Kikeroga with Messala.
I wonder if he thinks all the mobile suits he designed use his original technology…
“It’s the type that uses others but won’t let them feel bad if it benefits them, so of course they have charisma.”
Furthermore, I always feel like I’m playing the game seriously, so there’s no desperation and I always have a sense of ease…
>>78But no matter how far you go, you only see your subordinates as pieces in a game.
They might treat me like a favorite character, but…
If they show up, they’ll be killed by an original character immediately.
It’s originally a minor character.
Is he really as bad as they say? That’s the feeling I get about Shirocco.
I was not really involved in the wicked things that took place during the Gryps Conflict.
>>80Even without Shirocco, the general flow of Z doesn’t really change.
Since the final boss is absent, I’ve been treated like the root of all evil and dealt with…
>>80I think he’s just a bad guy normally.
When asked if it’s an evil of great magnitude, I feel somewhat uncertain.
>>80Like Yazaan, Camille has simply stepped on a landmine.
>>80Huh…?
>>85You can’t complain if you’re assassinated!
>>87The method was crazy, but they were thinking about the Earth in their own way… Even if they were to die in battle, being killed by someone who just wanted to stir things up like that, half as a joke…
>>102I think Shirocco is better.
It’s not that Sirocco is a good guy or anything.
>>102It was wrong to give power to someone like that.
>>109Even a guy like that has to be used, or we won’t be able to contain the Basque…
>>113It was wrong to give power to the Basques.
I mean, unless we’re talking about strategies, I don’t really have the impression that Shirocco is that much of a top-tier character in terms of pilot skills in the original work.
It’s only because it’s 2 against 1 that I could fight equally with Char.
>>84No one will fall for poorly executed contrarian tactics.
>>90It’s not like you’re that strong as a pilot, anyway.
>>93Yes, yes.
>>90Isn’t it not the strongest character?
The Psycho Gundam’s armor becomes funnels or something.
Isn’t it at a technological level comparable to the Laplace Incident, rather than the Gryps War?
>>88In the first place, there seems to be an out-of-place artifact called a rose, and its technology level appears to be higher than that of the original work.
>>88It’s big, so it should be fine.
It’s easier than cramming it into something small like a funnel.
>>88In terms of direct impact, it’s at a level where it can’t even take down a Zaku in one hit, and if it were a reflector bit, it could have been used with the Psycho Mk-II.
>>88Even so, just the armored attack isn’t particularly strong…
The red Gundam is already accompanying the unit.
The talent is genuine, but what they do is simply a source of trolling, harassment, and chaos.
The MS I use only has plain armaments, so its theatrical strength is difficult to understand.
Even the colony has become incredibly tough…
I don’t particularly have any thoughts on what I want to do, so I don’t think it can be classified as either good or bad evil.
If description is justice, then Judau is the strongest.
Totally doesn’t pamper otaku, does it?
>>103Judo is so strong that it’s hard to tell if it’s his own strength or the strength of the mobile suit.
>>106There are episodes where I dominate with the Hyakushiki, but…
It’s just the right strength for Char and Shalia, who have returned, to reunite MAV and take down a big boss.
There is no gap where it can be released.
In this era, Char doesn’t have any status to begin with!
In other words, Camille managed to win by breaking her spirit against someone who wasn’t very strong…
>>108What are you talking about?
>>108It was a series of battles, so the Aura Attack from Yazaan was troublesome.
It’s absurd to arbitrarily deify someone and talk about tiers without any official basis or evidence.
>>110That said, considering the treatment of UC Engage and Super Robot Wars, it seems that Bandai recognizes that the only enemy character capable of being the final boss is probably just Char.
I guess I don’t really know how strong Char was in ’85.
Without the occult power, I don’t really have the impression that Shirocco is that strong.
The thread image’s NT ability is top class, it’s insane.
A green guy who was easily taken down by a Gundam without magnet coating has no way of winning against Char!
>>120Shariabl and Shariabl (GQ) are different people…
>>120If there is no performance difference in the aircraft, it should win normally.
>>120In the TV version, I was defeated by the perfected Tenpa in the first match.
In the Zaku, I was fighting on the battlefield alongside Char.
It might be that they’ve rapidly grown into a class of skill due to their experience on the battlefield.
Hasn’t it been strong normally since the time of Messerra?
>>121You suddenly come to meddle and are inexplicably strong; it seems you haven’t changed since back then…
No way that a guy who looks like he could be shot down by a regular strike is the strongest.
>>124You must not forget that this is happening while facing Hamarn.
>>130Wasn’t it when we were both holding each other in check with NT power that you caught me off guard?
>>124I don’t think Katsu is weak enough to be underestimated in the first place.
Yazan’s shooting is avoidable.
>>124Then.
Kats > Shirocco > Camille = Quattro
Is that okay?
There’s no way that’s true.
>>124It means it’s so serious that there are almost no opportunities to kill other than during the ridiculous pressure showdown and the last Itako power.
It might have been better if this guy came out and Matty followed him instead.
In terms of skill, Yazan is stronger.
I completely forgot, but when I looked back, Sharia Blue was actually quite strong from the beginning.
I totally forgot about it.
Aren’t there any bio-computers or magnetic coatings?
>>133Magnet coating is absent because of the absence of natural curls.
It’s finally in the testing phase with the Gelgoog.
If we’re talking about performance differences, isn’t the Blau Block stronger than the Gundam?
>>135I really don’t think that will happen.
In close combat, Gundam is generally stronger.
>>137So the Gelgoog is stronger, huh?
Let me give you a ride.
>>147So the question is, can Amuro ride the Braw Bro and be unstoppable?
Considering versatility, Gundam is stronger.
>>151In a battle between Gundam and Baupro, Gundam would be stronger.
In a confrontation with a fleet, it seems that the Brawbro is superior to the Gundam.
>>151I can do it.
>>151That’s troubling because it seems possible…
>>151During the One Year War, I think I could dominate with all-range attacks.
>>151He’ll probably be unbeatable.
>>174I think you might like the sturdy escape mechanism of the Braw-Bro.
Since they are veterans of harsh war experiences not recorded in supply logs, they would likely be concerned about sustained combat capability, but the focus on survivability is truly a well-designed mechanism.
It doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen…
The fact that Hamarn was able to calmly pull back is also due to Sirrico’s strength.
It’s not that it can be used as a mere pawn; it can only be at the level of a pawn, that’s the Zeke Axe.
>>143You’re saying “bite, bite,” but it’s fine because the status of the characters who were strong in the original work hasn’t been diminished.
Do you think that if the Hanbrabi is shot down, all of its pilots will be degraded as well?
In the first place, if provides a polite reasoning.
>>148It’s better not to pay attention to the trolls one by one.
I just want to have a response battle.
>>148Please provide the Japanese text you would like me to translate.
>>148In the original work, they will die soon anyway…
>>194It’s quite tyrannical to say it’s okay because they will die soon.
It started behaving like a game protagonist, so it’s banned from entering.
>>138No, I’m talking about the Sharia vs. Scirocco match.
There are parts where I don’t really understand Camille’s strength.
And also Jerid.
Honestly, I feel like the battle descriptions in the Gryps Conflict are too inconsistent to be useful.
Everyone seems like they’re not fighting seriously.
I keep missing my shots and always end up in a hold.
>>149Even if the shooting hits, it’s troublesome that the armor is mostly just for show.
It was way better than when I was playing with psychic power.
Jerid, first stop challenging others in a debate by restraining them from behind.
>>150There are too many grudges and burdens to kill easily.
>>153It’s also bad that Camille hardly dealt with Jerid from midway through.
What the hell is this person saying?
I can understand why the green guy from G-Core might seem like he could win against the thread image, but if that’s the case, it would all be over, so he’s banned from appearing.
On the contrary, the historical Sharialble is just an enemy that is somewhat capable.
I guess they might get involved in the Zabi family’s political struggle since they wouldn’t be interested in a declining Earth.
>>157This guy can do politics too, which makes him even more banned.
If they intervene, the conversation won’t come together at all.
>>162It’s particularly troublesome that they aren’t even idealists.
Isn’t giving Amuro an MA kind of cheating?
>>163I wonder what Amuro would say if he piloted the GP03.
What are they thinking, leaving the I-field generator exposed like that!!
It seems that Gundam is better since Blau Brou doesn’t stand a chance against Lalah and Z’gok.
If you can’t maneuver, you’ll be boxed in against psychommu weapons, right?
>>165Since I can normally take down a psycommu with a beam rifle, I should be able to take it down normally even with an all-range attack.
>>175Well, during the battle with Lalah, I ended up getting hit several times since it was my first encounter, and with the Zaku, I was able to avoid it because it was Gundam, so it’s not like I was able to respond immediately to a completely new enemy.
Shall I deploy the MA protagonist machine…!
>>168It’s the federal government, right?
Somehow, Shirocco is really caring.
It seems that Machu is going to be deeply immersed, and since they’re the type of Newtype who can read minds, it should be easy to deal with them, so it doesn’t seem like there’s any escaping…
>>169I might be hated by adults because I also engage in trial behavior.
It seems like Nyaan is not possible.
Honestly, I came here today on a whim, so whether it’s really strong or not, it’s just annoying…
This guy is so good with words when it comes to women that he’s basically banned from places like Mercury and Pokémon battles.
>>172I’m not really that popular, you know.
A man who is just being followed by Sara and the heartbroken Reko, while being ignored by the best woman in the story, Maura.
>>192It looked like you weren’t involved with that woman who was like a lieutenant at all.
Even if we have banned Shirocco, when I think about it later, there are Duga and Teacher Karasu on Jupiter.
Aren’t you scared?
>>173The recent Sirocco is one thing, but there’s no way there would be one that far back in history.
If Amuro isn’t in it, there’s no way we’d even allow an approach, so if we’re talking about the performance difference of the machines, they aren’t even on the same battlefield.
The very existence is too much of a Macho special attack, so even with my discerning eye, it’s a ban.
In the story, it’s only the ally Jamitov who defeated someone without any named characters falling.
It’s definitely Yazaan who is a much better pilot, having taken down several named characters and cornering Camille.
>>180I’m not going to that front line.
Basically, the command is being led by the battleship in the Z series.
It finally comes out after the geo is created.
>>180No matter how many named weaklings you defeat…
Being banned is more about strength and Newtype abilities rather than anything else.
I can’t help but think that the charm of seduction is too effective on troubled high school girls, and it might lead to terrible outcomes.
>>181Also, the fact that a Jupiter-returned Newtype overlaps with Shalia Bull is simply true.
>>181It’s a total ban on both political and technical aspects, including everything else…
It’s already strange to take down a mobile armor with a single MS.
There are a lot of them in the Universal Century.
There are many mechas that seem to think aiming for the cockpit is enough, which is bad.
Shirocco Shuji Theory
…Sorry, I said that without thinking.
In the first place, I’ve almost died multiple times already.
It was only thanks to the Gundam’s armor that I was able to get by.
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