When I see someone who died without having accomplished anything, I don’t really think that way…

Is there anyone who suffered greatly without achieving anything and then died?

There are quite a few who die without having anything good happen to them, but I don’t think he’s of the same kind as Reiner.

Endeavor or something?

That’s a little different.

>>11

It’s really cool…

I understand pain that is necessary for the progression of the story or that can lead to catharsis later.

It becomes disheartening when it’s obvious that the author just wants to bully.

>>12

It’s still better, but if it starts to seem like they’re favoring this character or trying to protect their position, it can be quite…

They say that being pitiful is cute, but sometimes those who are truly just pitiful aren’t that popular.

I love Ani-chan’s joke about wanting to kill Reiner.

>>18

The return of the liner is nice too.

…The comments from the completely uninvolved Peaky-chan are terrible, though.

I keep going back and forth between feeling really sick and feeling really cool.

>>16

The human, down-to-earth aspects of such characters shine with depth amidst the abundance of superhumans and supernatural phenomena in the story.

>>25

In a sense, it’s a power battle story, so the opponents are basically humans.

Reiner is a character who has both the desire for him to suffer and the desire for him to die, so he ends up living on while suffering…

In the end, the only character I could empathize with in Attack on Titan was Jean.

It is something that can only be done if the series is prolonged.

Characters that show a vibe of “this guy is an idiot, haha” from the author’s comments and such are too cynical and unpleasant.

I’m disappointed that your lifespan has been extended, Raina.

>>28

I can understand both feelings before and after crossing the sea; what a great character!

Recently, in the popular Zaosaga, the protagonist is continuously pitiful and is being harshly criticized, so it really depends on the work.

>>31

Does Taichiro really have a reason to exist? Isn’t it fine to have Benimaru as the protagonist? The fundamental aspect of it is just hopeless, isn’t it…?

This is just my personal opinion, but I think it’s not good if the performance record is too poor.

It’s because you lose at the crucial moments, and if it happens repeatedly, you lose the motivation to watch.

If it can lead to a happy ending, it seems like it’s okay to cloud things up until then.

I felt that Tsukushi Akihito’s handling of the leg was nothing more than wanting to make it suffer a terrible fate, so I decided to retire.

Isn’t it 19 years old at the time of the main story’s conclusion for Reiner?

It must have been a happy life from there; that’s great.

>>37

Wasn’t it said that intelligent giants can’t live long?

>>38

Did you not read the end?

I thought so, but it’s been several years since it concluded, so if my memory is unreliable, it might be in a dangerous zone.

It was really cool when he stood up even though he couldn’t properly transform into a giant.

Now that I think about it, it feels like there’s been a cheap way of consuming things on the internet.

>>44

It is called Oashisu.

I think Io-kun from Sanboru is really great.

>>46

Io has been suffering all along, but he’s always cool…

>>47

That person is a good example of how one can end up like that when they are carried along without any agency in that world.

That being said, I got a good position in the end.

>>50

In the end, I chose to fight of my own will.

Suzaku

It’s the same as Okabe from Steins;Gate.

The type that rises from the brink of despair and achieves something has existed since long ago.

After watching works that seem like they’re just about bullying characters for fun, it’s impressive to see characters like Reiner and Eren who, despite suffering, still manage to play significant roles.

It’s not a trend where characters shine in adversity and hardship; it’s just a narrative technique.

If we’re talking about the trend after “Reiner,” that’s the part that can be attributed to the author’s preferences.

Isn’t it the case that the trends bring many hardships?

Reiner ended up fairly happy in the end, didn’t he?

When the serialization ended, there were quite a few Rainer fans who were really disappointed that Rainer ended up happy.

It’s not surprising to be told that a character in the story has been forsaken by God.

>>60

It feels like that world itself has been abandoned by God…

>>58

It’s probably Jan and Mike-san…

Reiner has been suffering all along, but without him, the world would have ended.

In the end, it was rewarding, and I became as weird as I used to be, so it’s really a good character.

I felt sorry for the readers who think it’s okay to beat them up just because Bertholdt and Eren spoke badly of them.

>>62

Many readers probably don’t remember Bertholdt much to even think about whether it’s okay to hit him, as he leaves a rather weak impression.

I think Flock died the most spectacularly.

>>63

It’s pitiful that they were rendered incompetent in development.

>>82

I’m talking about the development.

If I had just killed either Kiyomi or Onyankopon at any time when I could have, I would have been guaranteed the win.

I’m talking about how unfortunate it is that I’m constantly made to play the role of someone who misses.

The world of giants is fundamentally flawed because the world itself is bad…

>>64

That bug? is too gross.

A sycophant like Bertholdt hasn’t had a terrible experience, has he? Although he’s often told that…

>>69

This kind of vibe, huh?

The fact that the liner got unusually close was a great success, but…

The distance between us, like that of Bertolt, is what should be normal.

If you read it with the enthusiasm of the Eldian Restorationists, it can be enjoyable in its own way.

Definitely fun.

Bertholdt was taken everything and died right after making up his mind, but there were many other named characters who had even worse deaths, and there was a proper reason for his initially weak presence, so I didn’t think he was treated that badly.

>>72

That’s just hiding the truth; other than things related to Ackerman, there’s nothing else that’s a lie, right?

>>76

You said you always hated Mikasa!?

>>79

I think of them as family, but it’s also true that I’m annoyed by how overbearing they’ve been right from the beginning, so that’s not a lie either.

>>77

If that’s something to be made fun of, then we can make fun of Reiner too…

In the end, it’s a story about how Bertholdt ended up in a pathological psychological state where he couldn’t distinguish between a soldier and a warrior.

Flock and Marlo have volunteered after being advised by those around them.

That’s why Flock ended up like that, so it’s no wonder he is disliked by readers.

>>83

I just want it to be only Town Va-san.

The one being treated the worst is Marco.

>>85

That guy’s ashes have been stoking the fire for a while, which is quite significant, right?

>>91

Well, it might be someone else’s bones…

>>85

If that guy doesn’t die, Jean won’t join the Survey Corps and neither will the other recruits, so it will become hopeless due to a shortage of personnel, which is probably why he gets killed in every loop, it’s just too cruel.

>>93

What is a loop?

>>98

Pointing out common expressions shows a lack of comprehension, and while this work indeed has a looping element, it does.

>>108

There isn’t any.

There is no convenient story that repeats itself from beginning to end on a single path.

The only information in the main story is that Eren glimpsed the memories of the previous inheritors of the Attack Titan until his death and had doubts about whether he was involved in them.

Everyone probably thinks badly of Bertholdt, but…

It’s sad that there isn’t anyone who particularly thinks it’s bad.

>>86

It’s a bit unfortunate that almost nobody on the Mare Warrior side refers to their humanity as comrades.

It’s completely normal for even important people to have one or two things that you dislike, and in fact, Eren’s reluctance from the beginning hasn’t changed, so there’s no lie in that.

It’s just that a “genre” frame has been created for something that has always existed.

I think the self-awareness of the thread’s anonymity tells that phenomenon very well.

I think it’s completely a lie that you dislike Mikasa’s discomfort, Eren.

>>90

Well, from the beginning, he was saying to go to the military police instead of following me, and he seemed to want to let Mikasa be free, so I think Eren is quite concerned about that.

Flock understands that his survival was just by chance, and on top of that, he witnessed Levi sacrificing the dying Erwin and choosing Armin.

I think it’s only natural that I ended up living a life where I have no choice but to become the demon that takes Erwin’s place, as the mission of the humans who survived.

The only main character who chose to prioritize the island’s peace, even if it meant cutting off everything else, was that one.

Kira Yamato from the SEED main story seems to have gained a better understanding of the clouds later on.

>>96

Q. Why did you have such a personality in Q.DESTINY?

A. It’s because I was sick.

Little boys want to show off to the girls they like, but they often find it annoying when they get too much attention.

>>102

I died without accomplishing anything.

Unlike Yelena, whom Frock wants to kill instantly, and Kiyomi, whom he might kill depending on the situation, it’s amazing that he had no intention of killing Onyanokopon until the very end.

Even Yelena mourned for death; Sasha is a person who is respected in a different way.

In the final stages, it felt like all characters were being moved for the sake of the development, so it’s not just a story limited to Flok.

You were so weak, but now you’ve become strong and smart, Flock.

What Jean said, that your battle is over now and you should live freely and comfortably from now on, is really Flock’s true feelings, right?

I have seen material where the author denies the loop.

Sauce? I’ve just run out of it…

What’s with saying someone lacks reading comprehension just because they made a slightly unwelcome comment…?

I really like Flock’s last words…

This time it’s your turn to be the villain.

Isn’t it stupid for someone with loop elements to talk about reading comprehension?

I’m leaving the forest…

The time when the character shines the most, despite being neglected and put on hold, is at the beginning, and being able to die at that moment means something entirely different.

If I had to say, I didn’t really like Ani, who was always shifting the blame, but there were hardly any characters I disliked or wanted to direct hate towards in the work.

I won’t forgive Sieg for the way he killed, trampling on Miki’s dignity.

I think Sieg shone the most in the latter part.

That guy’s story had the most beautiful ending.

Creative characters are not so simple that they can be categorized into just one specific type.

Reading about the battle in Shiganshina District makes me understand well that the people of the island, desperately trying to live and thrive without knowing anything, must have been quite annoying.

There might be a part of me that wanted to genuinely feel that it was good to have been born, which makes it even more…

I hate Sieg, but I love him.

Zeke is being beaten by the sergeant, and he’s a pitiful guy to begin with, so it balances out.

I think it’s impressive how Zeke managed to summarize such a tremendously turbulent theme like antinatalism.

I was told many times that being born into that world is the greatest misfortune.

>>126

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I think the author is really good at timing when it comes to killing.

If Mike and Sasha hadn’t died, that level of tension wouldn’t have arisen.

>>127

Sasha was originally scheduled to exit much earlier.

Even though she killed meat, Gabi has somehow been accepted, really well done.

I changed the timing to kill Sasha after being persuaded by the person in charge.

I wonder if Gabi is being accepted.

Even now, they are probably the top character that people mention as someone they dislike.

>>131

Isn’t it the type that says it’s crazy?

>>145

I don’t care which came first…!

>>145

Then who wouldn’t be crazy?

Gabby is a character that instantly resonates once you understand the concept of a Paradis Island RTA runner.

Even if we talk about digging deep into the background and coming out of the forest like that…

As a reader, I don’t care about that, so I just think I dislike that guy who killed my favorite character!

If we’re talking about whether it’s permissible or not, Reiner’s part about killing Marco is much more…

>>134

You can tell just by looking at his behavior during training that he was a pretty unsavory guy…

It’s all just empty talk about wanting to die or complaining, but in the end, not having committed suicide.

>>160

I understood that the reason the rifle-wielding Reiner, who is mocked like a religious painting, didn’t pull the trigger was that he remembered Falco trying to inherit his titan to save Gabi and held back because he realized he couldn’t just make things easier for himself.

>>160

The part where Ani makes Marco kill is just the worst, right?

Sasha had already fulfilled her character’s role at the point of “Run, Sasha!” so I intended to kill her off there.

When I heard this story, I thought, “Huh? So Connie still has some role and is surviving?” and then at the very end, it happened.

Putting aside the merits and demerits of what Flock is doing, I quite like the fact that they feel genuine, unlike the not-so-strong ordinary soldiers who get stirred up after a few years and become stronger.

Sasha killed the soldiers, so she definitely had a reason to be killed, and I couldn’t blame Gabi for that.

I couldn’t bring myself to like Flock or Yelena.

The first thing that came to mind when people said “it’s completely shit” about Attack on Titan was King Fritz’s decision to shut himself away in the walls.

The founding ancestor Ymir was a masochist and had pure love, but the twist at the end was the most unbelievable.

>>141

If it’s not sadomasochistic and pure love, then there’s no reason to engage in solo parenting for giants in 2000…

>>141

You’re not digging deep enough, Ymir.

If the one who was killed to keep quiet was a character who could provoke more backlash from readers instead of Marco, wouldn’t there still be various discussions about it?

It’s quite often said that Ani was slaughtering soldiers.

I thought a surprisingly large complete edition would come out, but it doesn’t.

The liner is empty from beginning to end.

Dancing to the values of societal evaluation and justice.

Regretting the failure of the mission and the failure of justice, I am being swept away as a leader until the end.

>>149

Even though it was empty armor, I wanted to protect someone, and I thought that was what Reiner did.

>>155

That’s Reiner’s sense of justice, but it’s interesting because that same sense of justice has also led him to kill those he wanted to protect.

>>149

In the end, what underlies one’s personality is the desire to be acknowledged by their mother.

So it was a tough life, but I feel a sense of reward in the final episode.

I would love to see the ending that it seems Mr. Isayama originally planned.

In a pre-final episode interview, they said that they changed it into something that readers who followed the series for ten years would feel was worth reading.

Everyone originally doesn’t want to kill, even though they do.

The times and environment are just bad, normally.

>>152

It’s my fault…

If you dislike ~, I can understand, but hating ~ is just a strange person.

Personally, I have a worse impression of Hange, who happily threw everything away at the very end and went to die.

It’s impressive how it was thoroughly portrayed with themes like customs and the consequences of parents affecting their children all the way to the end.

It’s a bit pathetic that Berber-kun, whose background was never depicted at all, is in that situation.

>>158

It’s common to have child soldiers who commit murder for the sake of their sick fathers.

The old warrior squad, excluding Galliard, added elements like adoption and conflicts with parents.

I couldn’t help but think, “Is this really happening?” when a huge bug was causing a supernatural phenomenon called Ymir.

Even after the series concluded and they made all volumes available for free periodically, the Attack on Titan threads don’t seem to gain much traction.

I think there are quite a few instances where the developments in the latter part were unsatisfactory.

>>166

As a result of the expectations for thematic elements reaching extreme heights, it seems that readers feel unsatisfied with any content, which is a fate of buzzworthy works; it’s a bit unfortunate for Mr. Isayama.

>>166

It feels like the world has suddenly become smaller since everything was orchestrated by Eren.

>>170

I don’t think I wrote anything beyond what the person themselves doubts about their possibilities.

Gabi went through a lot, but after she apologized to Jean, the next morning she was able to honestly see him accept her cooperation naturally.

Gabi looks like the victim, so I couldn’t bring myself to dislike her.

It was interesting, but I was a bit disappointed that Eren had set it up!

That aside, there are many scenes and characters that are worth talking about, and it’s a work I love.