There is a sense of incongruity in the character settings of both Ukitake and Suiren…

>>2

What will happen to pride?

Everything can be explained with “mirror flower, water moon.”

>>3

There’s no indigo dye here, anyway!

Ukitake was a bit of a troublemaker in the past, but with this incident, he became more serious and ended up being in conflict with Elder Brother… I thought that.

The old man from the mountains says he has always been gentle.

>>10

I can’t help but want to say at least one complaint.

What is that convenient ability of the enemy?

>>11

Wasn’t that a power created by Aizen?

Due to this, there was a strong theory of Ukitake being the mastermind at the time.

“Rather, ‘die for pride’ is something that big brother might say.”

>>15

I think that when it comes to a situation like this, I would start sweating bullets.

Kyouraku is probably the one protecting, but it felt a bit too casual, so I didn’t want to leave it to them.

In reality, it’s outside of my preferences, so it’s safe.

Let’s blame the floating ability of the Grand Fisher’s anglerfish on Aizen’s creation.

>>18

😠

>>18

It felt like a very compromising way of saying it.

Brother → I don’t interact much with Ukitake, but I feel like my impression of him has really dropped.

What was that story about again…?

Despite having read it during my active years, I completely forgot this part.

>>21

The seagull’s bride was killed by Hollow!

It’s a battle of mourning! Just in case, Ukitake and Rukia came along too.

Somehow, Hollow took over the Seiren, and Ukitake was coughing and unable to do anything, leading to Rukia killing him.

I killed Umineko… and Gunjobu is really angry.

Living in a bubble of peace.

When Rukia was struggling and tried to help the Sea Swallow, it was Hidetake who told her to stop for the sake of pride!

The ability to erase a zanpakuto is crazy, isn’t it?

When I saw Ukitake’s past in the anime, it somehow resonated with me.

Since it’s a life lived with 100% emotion, you start to prioritize your thoughts and way of living in that direction.

There are many developments where Bleach characters come in to help, so I can’t help but feel a sense of discomfort when I hear about pride.

The story itself isn’t that strange, but…

Considering Ukitake’s personality, it’s strange.

Wasn’t it said that the Umineko Palace should not be meddled with in the first place?

I thought the same when I restarted the game, but the subsequent skewering of Aaroniro was also a strange development.

Shiraya is a noble and married, so while I understand that Umi’s feelings are not appropriate for a vice commander, I feel like I can relate to them.

They’ll probably overlook the revenge for my wife.

I should have heard it in a while at Rivalsol, but was Aronirol’s voice always this cool?

Ultimately, it’s just hindsight, but it seems like the result of prioritizing pride here led to the death of the best guy who didn’t deserve to be sacrificed.

If either Ukitake or Rukia were missing, the world would have perished in the Thousand-Year Blood War arc.

>>41

It’s not necessarily the case that someone has to die for sure.

If Ukitake had helped halfway, all three of them would have been saved…

>>49

There are no particular restrictions, so I can ensure a kill with parasitic ability on one person.

If the broken zanpakuto had been thrust at me, I should have been suspicious.

The sword without a cutting edge is suspicious, but the relaxed bird is impressive!

Make sure to properly explain the situation to Ganju too!

Rukia must be exhausted, so let’s not worry about that for now, but we should contact Ukitake later!

>>43

I properly went to explain it to Ukitake afterward.

Kyōraku is like this, so it seems that Ukitake here is upset.

>>44

Kyōraku always has a clear and consistent approach, after all…

The themes and resolutions commonly found in Bleach are good, but the process feels all over the place… it’s somewhat different from that.

It’s a short episode, but strange.

>>45

It’s a story that continues with a constant “Hmm…?” throughout…

Although he seems like a worthless character that doesn’t give off much of an atmosphere, it’s said that his spiritual pressure is truly amazing, like Ukitake.

From the perspective of my brother, the only one who can bow their head and say, “Please, Rukia… as a rank-and-file member,” is Ukitake, right?

>>47

Isn’t it good with Hitsugaya…? No, back then it was Ichigo?

>>48

Isn’t it before the heart?

Are you at a time when you’re debating whether to make Ukitake the mastermind?

Well, if this is a story about a unit that places pride above all else, then it makes sense.

Ukitake, that’s not what I meant…

Perhaps from the perspective of other teams, Isshin might seem like an unreliable captain, especially considering his work attitude…

It was just that I underestimated my opponent because I thought I could win.

Clearly, if it were a higher level, we would go with multiple people properly.

>>55

In the first place, having two captains dealing with just a Menos is already kind of an excessive force…

It may be that while prioritizing Uminori’s feelings, Ubatake actually wanted to live as well…

>>58

Well, at this stage, there are still teams that are against it because it’s not a commander’s order.

There are too many replies that don’t consider pride…

If I am helped by Rukia, my pride will be hurt, but when the time comes, I can help myself.

Ugh… a seizure…!

“I thought I would die spitting blood in front of an opponent I could definitely win against at a crucial moment.”

There weren’t any scenes after this where they struggled with such lungs…

The thoroughly realistic Gouraku-san feels out of place in the story.

I think Ukitake is the way he is because Kyouraku and Ukitake are complete opposites and are best friends.

There may have been a possibility of a floating bamboo black curtain route.

As mentioned above, if Ukatake fought and dealt with it after Kaien was taken down, that would be acceptable.

Don’t press your chronic condition onto Rukia!

They’re probably a nice person, but they’re just a nice person.

Captain Ukitake feels an atmosphere like that.

Well, there are various people who admire you, and it’s probably not just that, but from the perspective of the reader, it looks that way.

Despite the rumors that a lot of settings are being created, there are many haphazard developments.

>>68

Creating settings wildly and having the plot develop haphazardly are not contradictory…

>>73

The priority of the development over the settings that should have been created is simply because it hasn’t been decided yet.

Well, they just twisted the character for the sake of the story they wanted to tell.

At that time, I think it would have been best to send either Captain Wanko or Hitsugaya to that place, brother.

>>70

Captain Wanko’s place is too masculine, and the shota is still unreliable, says Nii-sama…

The crazy part about Ubichiku is that he’s instructing the preparations for the funeral even though Kaien isn’t dead.

>>71

Even though the unicorn is not dead yet, it seems like preparations for a funeral were being made, so I guess that’s just how it is…

>>77

Bald is just bald, so it’s fine.

>>71

Prepare for the funeral.

Even a Satsuma samurai would commit seppuku just from tripping.

That is pride.

“They say he was generous, well-liked, and always at the center of everyone, but I didn’t get that feeling…”

There was definitely a subordinate I was enamored with.

Considering that Kyōraku-san makes serious judgments while laughing.

Is the focus on emotions at the end intentional for the character?

I feel like this is a manga where pride and such are surprisingly not that important in other scenes.

>>79

Older brother is worried.

Zomari died because he turned his blade against my pride.

Are there any other moves like Ukitake’s black curtain?

>>80

Are you bedridden and out of the camera frame at an important time?

>>80

The Death God Substitute Badge…

You’re the type to adapt to the other person’s style, right?

If they seem to want help, I will help them, but if they want to fight alone, I won’t help them even if they die.

I think Shiraya would make the same choice as Kaien if he went through the same experience.

Was it Ukitake who gave you the pass?

Also, at the time when Aizome betrayed and shattered the glasses, there was some conversation only with Ukitake.

It seems like only Ukitake is being thought of in connection with the Soul King.

Even during the final battle of the Arrancar arc, I was just messing around…

The pride around it ultimately feels like it’s not fully handled as a theme because the stance and content of pride differ depending on the character.

>>92

It’s a relatively loose organization.

Works like Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan leave a deeper impression of bushido and the severity of military service.

Ukitake is trash.

Well, there may be many scenes that prepare for becoming the mastermind.

It’s not like they’re a delicious character just because they’re the mastermind.

Nisama thinks that while he would die for his pride, he has some reservations about allowing his subordinates to die as well.

I was also sweet to Renji.

>>97

I’m incredibly stubborn and will never bend what I once vowed.

Conversely, if it’s something I haven’t vowed to, I might not be so particular about it.

Since Futatake-san was also enduring, they probably tried to understand and let them fight alone until the last moment.

Isn’t it good to go to Unohana’s place if it’s a dangerous spot?

>>100

Haven’t you ever healed once, Rukia? Is it that you can’t?

>>102

Wasn’t Chan I being treated in the early stages?

I wonder if the outcome of the battle against Aaroniero was considered early on, and that’s why it ended up like this, as it meant I had to kill Rukia’s benefactor.

>>101

It’s not a story so far in the future; it’s simply a development to justify being hated by the eagle.

The Gotei 13 is not an organization that takes responsibility by committing seppuku or anything like that.

>>104

But the Shinigami must be prepared to die to protect humans, as Yamaji said…

Thanks to prioritizing pride, the Kaien-dono was grateful…

When the thread image was taken, my Zanpakuto was erased, but since Aroneroro was able to use his, it seems that erasing a Zanpakuto might be a temporary thing.

Even though Yama-jii lost his arms, he didn’t rely on Orihime and has been consistent.

The protagonist Ichigo has overcome despair, but as soon as he learns about Yhwach’s abilities, he immediately falls into despair.

When read straight through, it seems emotionally unstable.

>>110

Chan is weak mentally, huh? → Almost every chapter has the development of becoming mentally stronger…

>>110

I want that part to be changed in the anime…

“Despair won’t stop your feet!” That’s what I made Rukia say!

Why is the vice-captain losing to a regular Hollow? That’s the thing that concerns me the most…

>>111

Well, since it was later established that this was handmade by Aizome, it all makes sense.

>>111

It’s probably not common.

>>111

That place is a kyo made with indigo dye and it wouldn’t be surprising if there is some kind of enhancement.

Perhaps among the Zanken Souki, Kaien was particularly focused on slashing.

Get your future pleasure’s eye fixed as well.

When I was just reading this part and tried to join the characters in Gag Manga Biyori, I remember being stopped with “Look, it’s a snail mime!” and then arguing.

In the early days, Shōten was quite about discipline and pride.

Attempting to purge Kōtetsu

Old-timers like Ukitake and Kyouraku are actually sweeter.

If a captain readily commits seppuku, it makes it easier for the lid of hell to be opened…

Speaking of which, Kaien was persistently referred to as “Kaien-dono” in Katakana at first.

I ended up getting scolded by my older brother later on.

Considering the matter of the Death God Substitute Certificate and the fact that Rukia has been dispatched, as well as the captain’s weakness…

I thought that since the 13th Division has a lot of duties in the living world, brother entrusted Rukia to them.

I don’t actually know if such a setting exists.

The story starts with a seated officer-level shinigami who can use Shikai being defeated by a wild Hollow.

>>124

Even though it was to protect Chanichi who threw himself into danger, it seems like there could have been a better way to handle that situation.

Kyōraku has a completely opposite view on that point, right?

I think it’s a manga that doesn’t strongly appeal to those who seek discipline or norms.

>>128

Winners must always speak not about how the world is, but about how the world should be！！！！！！

If you think about it, Ukitake could definitely retort when you let him get ignored once.

You’re breaking the rules too, so even if you break them again to save Rukia, it doesn’t change anything.

Soi-pon or something like that?

Rukia’s age has become unclear due to her earlier statements!!

Well, it’s okay to blame Aizen for Rukia losing to weak opponents in the early stages too.

>>144

But when I think about it calmly, I feel like the main culprit behind Rukkyan’s weakening was the shameless getaboshi Bekkyo-man.

The veteran members of Kyōraku Utabuki’s team are relatively lenient.

Besides the early Byakuya and Soifon, everyone else is generally laid-back.

I have the impression that there’s always despair and getting carried away with each episode, Chanichi.

But you see… Captain Ukitake was fully prepared to pass his captaincy to Lord Kaein and retire, so losing Lord Kaein was a huge shock for him…

>>137

I heard that the captain’s haori that Rukia-san is wearing was redone from the captain’s haori that Ukitake prepared for Kaien, and I felt really heavy about that…

>>137

So, does that mean Umineko-dono had the potential for Bankai?

I mean, it’s just that Kaien himself is similar to Ichigo.

They’re just a random mob that isn’t very strong.

>>138

Because they are fallen nobility, they have good bloodlines.

>>138

It’s a relative!

It’s really insane that I had Rukia handle the cleanup.

At least someone who can clean up after themselves should be the one to talk about pride.

Kyōraku, don’t put some worthless guy in three seats!

It’s not a joke!

>>140

Maybe there are more teams with only worthless people except for the captain and vice-captain.

Considering that, the 11th Division really has a high average.

But I feel that Kaien-dono isn’t suited to be the captain…

If you say that, there are probably others who aren’t suited to be captain as well.

>>143

If Soipon can be the captain, it should be fine…

Futsubaki, at least fulfill your responsibilities as a superior.

Why are you making your subordinates do it?

Rukia really left a strong initial impression, and back then I thought, how did she manage to defeat an Espada?

Looking back, I actually had the ability of a vice-captain level.

I think if your personality is similar to Chanichi’s, you will take good care of those below you, Lord Umisen.

I mean, were you taking care of Rukia?

I feel like there’s a sense of incongruity here when considering Floatbamboo’s character or personality.

Since the Grim Reaper has a ridiculously long lifespan, I guess if you lose your pride, you end up living like you’re rotten.

Ten blades and some talk about discipline, the likes of which are floating around Tōsen, who burned Grimjow’s arm.

>>154

Is that so?

Personally, that’s fine, but after my arm heals, it’s alright to kill Luppi and return to being the 6th Espada… that’s how I feel.

Get angry there too.

>>158

If you were angry when your arm got burned, then you should be angry there too…

>>158

Rupi suddenly went to 6, ignoring Zomari below, so it seems like Rupi thinks of everyone else as just a momentary distraction.

>>158

I was thinking that the Espada numbers don’t get promoted.

>>179

Someone with eye holes seems like they want to say something.

>>158

I added Rupi because I hate GJJJ, but I probably regretted it because it’s just weak.

>>154

(Too serious! 🤣)

>>154

That’s more of a scene with a floating idiot, isn’t it?

>>154

Tosen felt like a typical committee chair character…

>>154

That is simply understandable as a thing that Tosen, who has come to see himself as justice, would do because he dislikes Grimmjow.

I mean, with the series of discussions in the thread, I no longer understand what the death of the Soul Society is all about.

In Rukia’s recollection, Kaien dies and turns to dust.

Rukia appears while dragging the corpse of Kaiyen in Ganjyu’s recollection.

It was later revealed in a recollection that the Hollow that took over Kaien at that time was still alive.

I’m not following everything outside of the main story, so there might have been some additional explanations later, but it became incomprehensible.

>>155

It seems that souls that died in the Soul Society are broken down into spiritual particles.

The captain and vice-captain class can’t be disassembled and will be sent to hell, right?

…Was Umeyadori originally meant for hell?

>>173

Um… In the past episodes featuring some people from the slums, there are corpses appearing, is that okay…?

It’s strange how those who are hindering their duties as captains are still concerned about their pride.

Aren’t you proud as a captain that you can’t work because you’re not feeling well?

>>156

That’s why I was planning to switch with you, Kaien-dono!

It’s fine that Kaien was weak, but then why is someone of that level who’s just copying the real thing one of the Espada?

>>159

Still, they’re a top-tier powerhouse among the Espada…

Also, Arolinero has incredible potential for growth in terms of ability, so there is a lot of promise for the future.

If it were any captain other than Ukitake, almost all of them would likely interfere.

>>161

If the captain gets taken over, it would be the worst.

Although Ukitake has a good vibe, I only remember him messing things up except for when he became Mimihagi and disrupted His Majesty.

Ubatake is, how should I put it, a much more troublesome person than he seems at first impression…

Crazy Neighborhood Story

Enjōji Tatsubō is fine on its own!

Mr. Kyouraku is kind of gross with his personnel decisions prioritizing hobbies.

Well, the Espada is a collection of Hollows that seem to have been born from chaos.

What does it mean to act as the discipline committee over there?

>>171

Well, that’s because Tōsen is stubborn…

When I was reading, Captain Ukitake honestly seemed like a pretty incapable person who only seemed to have a good personality.

It’s the type that seems capable but is actually incompetent.

Well, even though the origin is virtual, if you’re part of an organization, discipline is important, right?

The mechanism by which the numbers appear is a mystery in itself, isn’t it, Arrancar?

Some people have it on their tongue or gums, and Neliel is still at level 3.

If it were Ukitake, could he have taken down that Hollow in an instant? I don’t really know.

I died serving as the Soul King’s proxy without even using my Bankai.

The issue with Rukia’s spirit power regeneration being too low is due to Urahara’s special gigai.

The reason Rukia lost is nothing…

Captain Tosen always seems a bit flighty.

There are many stories about picking things up later and cleaning them up nicely, but there were many stories from the time of the thread that retained their live feel.

Losing in the first episode has nothing to do with the geta hat, right…?

>>190

The reason my spiritual power hasn’t recovered is because it happened after I entered into the Gigai.

It was Lord Kaien who acted unilaterally, disregarding the team rules in the first place…

To be frank, Reapers aren’t really that strong as a species.

Even a vice-captain can suffer serious damage if caught off guard by a regular Hollow.

Mr. Ukitake ended up having a nice vibe in the anime, making it look like he had a one-on-one with Yhwach and Mimihagi…