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[Bleach] At this point, it’s impressive how these guys were able to defeat a captain.

I will kill you, for the pride of a灭却师… Ho 14 WHITE TOWER ROCKS (End)

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It’s a draw.

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If Nemu hadn’t given me the antidote, Ishida would have died…

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Ishida was using Quincy Retsutushitiru, which is close to Quincy Forshtendich, so it’s not surprising if he won.

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>>2

I can defeat it without Brute Altieri, with Heinrich Pfail.

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At this time, Ishida has temporarily become as strong as in the final chapter, which is insane.

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Of course it would escape by turning into water…

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It’s strange that someone can stand like that with a hole in their abdomen, and it’s also strange that Mayuri-sama doesn’t die instantly even after being opened up like that.

Rose was just lying there dead, right?!

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>>5

In other words, the masked army loses consciousness if stabbed by Tosen.

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>>9

As a commander, were those guys really that weak back then?

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>>5

It’s a strength that includes things like skill and preparation, but hearing it said like that makes me think that Mayuri-sama isn’t one of the weaker captains.

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It’s not about struggling; it’s a big hole in Mayuri’s stomach in one shot.

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There were hardly any people who used the spirit child subjugation.

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A salt match between Chan I and Ken-chan, both of whom are part of the faucet restriction faction.

What are these guys doing…

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>>11

At that time, the readers didn’t know such things anyway.

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You brat… you are surpassing the realm of power allowed for humans…!!

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The final blow from Chad that Captain Harusui praises.

Isn’t it that when you go to Hueco Mundo, you get weakened?

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Well, regarding this, at this point, it’s more like Ishida’s strength is abnormal…

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Until the vanishing chapter, Chad and I are probably about the strength of a vice-captain, so the final form feels like a cheat or a trick.

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Rather, Ishida at this time is too insane.

You can see a rare scene where Mayuri is seriously panicking.

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As time goes on, it still feels very much like an early event battle in general with the Captain vs. battle from this period.

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>>19

In other words, the commander rank doesn’t have many enhancement events or anything until the final stage, so at this point, their strength is not much different from the endgame.

Normally, there’s no way we could win.

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Ishida’s momentary firepower at that time is still relevant in the final chapter, right?

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>>20

The subjugation of particles is an advanced technique that can only be used at a level like “J”.

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While Kilge is skilled in abilities, it’s not that rare for there to be more characters using Holy Aid in anime.

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>>24

In anime, the depiction is exaggerated.

It seems like there could be negative effects if you take in false information, so it’s probably not something you should use carelessly.

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There’s no one who can fight suddenly deprived of everything except their sense of touch. > Masked Army

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>>25

I need to get strong like Ken-chan after all.

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It depends on the level, but Seirei can be used by everyone who has a complete holy body.

It seems to be an extension of the basics of a Quincy who fights by absorbing the surrounding spiritual particles in the first place.

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There is clearly a difference between Kiruge and the others when it comes to Seirei.

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Don’t use the techniques that the enemies use in the late game during the early game when inflation progresses.

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I laughed at how the enemies in the Bounty arc and Invasion arc were doing something like a parody of the Holy Guardian.

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Actually, there isn’t much inflation, right, at least for fish.

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>>32

Pernida also posts on the bulletin board…

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In the anime, the number of parts differed a bit between the incomplete and complete holy forms.

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Since Ichigo is coming in at a state that’s above a one-horned demon but below a white dragon, he really is strange.

It seems that the amount of spiritual pressure growth before and after entering the virtual sphere is impressive, so the rate of increase is probably high throughout the main story.

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The boost of Lettsutīru is amazing, isn’t it?

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>>36

You could say it’s in a Gon-san state.

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If you have a Shrift, it’s basic that anyone can do something like a Soravere when they become Vorstendig.

Ishida’s research results on the religious strings obtained from Lettshteel through Scraverfly are truly amazing, even without becoming a Sternritter.

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While saying you’ll kill me, the fact that you only use 30% of your strength and don’t aim for my head shows your weakness, Amoryu.

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This is a match where even if one of them dies here, it will have an incredibly significant impact on future developments.

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What is that about receiving a spiritual arrow to heal from something related to the same room nodule?

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>>40

According to Ryuugen, there is a way to heal even when using the final form.

It’s just that I can only fix it to that extent because I’m a worse rain dragon than my father.

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It’s a Quincy sent by Urahara Kisuke.

It’s natural to be strong.

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It’s not that there isn’t inflation…

It feels like the strongest class in the story suddenly pops up and disappears in the early to mid stages.

I think the overall average strength is inflating quite significantly.

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It’s strange that Mayuri-sama doesn’t die from that.

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There are probably too few advantages for it to be meaningful, but if Ishida does this in the final chapter, I wonder if he would become stronger than the complete holy body, at least for a moment.

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If we take Ryuugen’s words at face value, then Ryuugen must have used the Scattered Spirit Gloves, and unlike Ishida, he has talent, so I think he wouldn’t experience a loss of ability.

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>>46

I’m saying about talent and such with 80% sarcasm.

In short, I think it means that I won’t use it in a foolish way like you, breaking the faucet and exhausting all the power of the mage.

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In the Sword-chan battle, we managed to push through with shadow + mask guard at the beginning, so that’s quite something.

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The binding and the soul sleep are being blown away, aren’t they?

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>>49

I wonder if it’s worth creating those two organs anew.

Ichigo, who was shattered by Byakuya, has also revived through training.

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I think Ishida’s final form is stronger than I expected, but at this point, Mayuri is one of the weaker captains.

It is often thought that they are already strong at this point because they are increasingly becoming like Doraemon.

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>>50

It’s a type that, despite being a captain, has low innate specs and relies on things like “Shunpo” making you tired or covering with an auto-counter built into the Zankpakuto.

Ishida is strong too, but there’s some fluctuation in his spiritual pressure, and people think he might be able to escape somehow.

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>>50

I think that even at this point, and not just in the final stages, the raw combat power is still below that of the captain.

I’m the type who manages to hang on by preparing intensely and relying on endurance and adaptability.

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>>50

Even if there are a lot of samples from the Quincy, I’m the type to be satisfied only with uncovering about 1% of their abilities.

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>>109

It’s a waste that we haven’t gained anything from torturing the old man.

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>>115

It’s a late-stage talk like Kongming, but it’s really incompetent.

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>>121

It seems like it would be really effective if you get pinned down in this area, Mayuri-sama.

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The fact that the average value is rising above the peak value indicates that there is inflation.

I’ve always thought that Ichigo’s base bankai during the Arrancar arc was clearly much weaker than his base bankai during the Soul Society arc, but could it really be true…?

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>>52

The average value is undoubtedly increasing, but when it comes to Ichigo, the fluctuations are so extreme that it’s hard to understand.

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>>52

I think I wasn’t able to fully commit because I was too scared of the inner emptiness, even though my natural status had improved.

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>>52

I don’t think that’s the case.

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Looking back later, it wasn’t a plan where Yoruichi would snatch Rukia away in the midst of the chaos.

Why does it seem like we’re expected to confront the captain head-on? What’s going on with Urahara Kisuke?

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If it’s too late once you have shot arrows for 7 days through the spirit gloves, I often think it would be better to stop at 6 days.

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>>54

I don’t think it’s such a story…

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If Ryugen had been more cooperative with the Grim Reaper and provided information about things like Still Silver, wouldn’t it have been easier for Mayuri to mass-produce it?

Urahara hasn’t been able to do it, so it’s impossible.

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>>55

It looks like they’re keeping an eye on the SS from the shadows, so isn’t that impossible?

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>>65

But if you rushed into invasion out of anxiety, wouldn’t you just end up getting killed by the monk and be in a deadlock?

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If you intended to kill, it’s terrible that you didn’t settle it sooner.

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So what does that mean, Ishida!!

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>>63

…If it can compete at Super 3, then it can definitely compete at God level, Kurozaki!

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In DS games, the special move in the thread image is comparable to the top-class power of the White Emperor Sword.

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The strength of Chanichi is practically impossible to analyze based on the depictions in the story because he is intentionally holding back.

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>>66

Isn’t it different to say that you’re adjusting?

They are just exerting their power within the resources they can manage.

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In the Hueco Mundo arc, there is a certain compatibility difference with Ichigo.

As for firepower, it’s common to see that even if it’s sufficient against a captain when facing a Grim Reaper, it might not be enough at all when facing an Arrancar.

Regarding speed, while other Shinigami can keep up relatively well, Ichigo in the Arrancar arc is easily caught up to.

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I really think that seeing it compete closely against Gin even without the Void Transformation.

>>67

What the hell is going on here?

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I think that while Chanichi is the strongest with dual swords due to his training in the Spirit King Palace, the potential of that transformed Getsuga was the strongest.

Al Meal and Super Saiyan 4 Gohan-like

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>>69

The strongest form, which loses its power after being used once, must be the strongest, or else it would be a problem.

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Mayuri-sama simply became the captain by using the technology developed by researchers herself…

Well, the basic specs are not that of a warrior.

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The limiter is being controlled in a place unrelated to the person.

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Gian can’t do Doraemon.

It seems that Doraemon is not as strong as Gian.

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In times when we couldn’t hold back on ideas to avoid cancellation.

There is a certain kind of excitement in manga that can only be obtained through its dynamism.

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>>78

If anything, the Soul Society arc itself is an enhancement.

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>>83

It seems that it was originally intended to be an episode that would take place later on.

You were probably cut off eight or nine times before going there, right?

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>>95

But it looks better to do Pringles and modern ability battles first, and then have an inflation battle in the Soul Society…

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>>100

The Pringles edition was very unpopular, wasn’t it?

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>>95

By the way, the first outsourced chapter wasn’t very popular.

I heard that they decided to do the Soul Society arc before the Wekomundo arc.

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If Ishida hadn’t been soft, Mayuri would have died in that situation.

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>>79

No matter how you look at it, that’s damage that would normally be fatal, yet somehow they’re still alive!

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Mayuri-sama hasn’t mastered his Bankai in its original form by his own efforts, and his skills in Zanken Sokki are probably quite basic.

I wonder how much the demon arts can be used.

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It seems like Byakuya, Hitsugaya, and other captains are frequently powering up.

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There isn’t even a scene where Mayuri’s spiritual pressure is insane or anything.

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Using the power to gather particles that make up the world and turn them into arrows is too lawless.

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The difference between Nito and Mutsu is that there is almost no depiction of Nito, so I can’t understand it at all.

Hurry up and show the scene where you overwhelmingly crush the enemy in your Bankai state.

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If you can’t basically avoid sanrei shuto, then you can’t lead a normal daily life.

In the Soul Society arc, Ishida hasn’t washed his hands even once?

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Gin’s Bankai can kill Knuckle = he can win against everyone except for some of the Omnitsukido, and the upper ranks from the Arrancar arc seem to hold up in the final chapter as well.

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Due to the various things like the auto counter being set up, it’s hard to really understand Mayuri’s true abilities without those.

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If you run away now, you’ll miss it (all the organs will be gone).

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At this point, the spirit particle absorption was too strong, and without the inhibiting gloves, it would go out of control.

Since the revival, is it that the absorption ability has declined because I’m not wearing gloves?

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As expected, Mayuri-sama is definitely stronger without using strange chemicals compared to the likes of Shiba and Yune, but considering that, the weakening of the captain ranks is pretty serious.

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It’s just that we can do something thanks to our preparation and adaptability, isn’t it Mayuri-sama?

Urahara is also that type, but he has also trained his basic abilities over there, so that seems to be the difference.

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>>93

I was secretly training with Yoichi at night.

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>>93

Mayuri-sama became captain through the Technology Development Bureau, but Urahara-san has risen to the position of captain in a regular way.

The white strike performance is high, and it can handle chant discarding like the Five Dragon Destruction.

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The scene where Mayuri, who usually doesn’t sweat and panics, was completely taken aback.

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>>94

If you got blasted away along with your bankai in one hit, that’s beyond just being taken aback…

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Ishida’s bow has subtle minor changes in each chapter, but I wonder if there is any setting behind that.

The shape suddenly changed even during the battle with Hash.

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>>96

Just like the constantly changing outfits, it’s fashionable, isn’t it?

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If we assume that the Bankai of Ichigo in the Soul Society arc is weaker than his Bankai from the Arrancar arc, there is a high possibility that it is indeed weaker.

In the Arrancar arc, I’m not putting out enough power to self-destruct with my full release, like being scared or the chocolate latte stuff.

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It has been mentioned several times, but if you are certain you want to kill the shinigami, you have no choice but to behead it.

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>>101

Thank you, Zomari.

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Thank you for not killing Mayuri → No, I shot with the intention of killing him… This exchange is amusing enough to highlight how strange it is that Mayuri is still alive.

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It’s surprising if they suddenly become as strong as the final chapter in the middle of the story.

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>>105

Wasn’t this around volume 15? It’s not even the middle, it’s the beginning for that guy.

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Urahara might have been thought of by those around him as just relying on Yoruichi’s connections…

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>>107

To be honest, I was torn between choosing the words for the beginning and the middle.

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Chanichi has a bankai specialized in speed, but…

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>>114

By the time of Grimmjow, the only thing that became decent with Bankai was speed…

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What does it even mean to escape by turning your whole body into liquid?

You’ve quit being human too much.

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>>116

It’s not a person, is it?

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I wonder which one is stronger, Mayuri or Byakuya from the Soul Society Arc.

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>>118

While Nisa is strong, I think Mayuri would win if anything goes.

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>>118

I think it’s the latter.

It is said that the latter is more well-known in the Spirit Court (in fact, the latter is the most famous among all the captains), and this will likely be added to the evaluations from those around regarding combat performance.

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I wonder if that was something they planned to bring in towards the end regarding the Quincy.

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What I originally intended to do first was not the Fullbring arc, but the Arrancar arc.

In the end, I was contemplating whether to place the Quincy arc or the Fullbring arc last.

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>>120

I think that if I had done Tsukishima Ginjo after defeating Bach, it would have become a legendary story for the wrong reasons.

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>>124

That makes sense.

Isn’t it unreasonable to just switch all the stories and characters as they are?

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>>124

Conversely, if it had been done the other way, the person corresponding to Yuhabach would be much weaker and the person corresponding to Ginjo would be much stronger, so the setting of the Knight’s Brigade or XCUTION wouldn’t even exist in the first place, making it a meaningless assumption.

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Who is the final boss in the last chapter of the manifestation arts?

Are you going to become a spirit king like Ginjo?

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>>125

The fact that there is that much potential is actually a problem.

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>>125

Ukitake Jūshirō

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During the initial Bankai battle, Chan’s brother was so fast that even his brother couldn’t keep up, but after running out of gas once, it settled into a slightly faster pace.

I wonder if someone on the inside stopped this as well…

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If it were Pringles thrust, Tsukishima would become the strongest and invincible being.

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But I get that diving into the final chapter after completely resolving the mysteries and grudges of the old man inside makes for a good conclusion in its own way.

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I can somewhat understand that Tsukishima-san would lend a hand to Bach.

I can’t imagine a scenario where Bach lends a hand to Ginjou Tsukishima.

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>>135

You could come up with a convenient explanation such as saying that the old man of Zangetsu absorbed part of Bach’s abilities, so it wouldn’t necessarily have to be Bach himself, but it could still have a similar form.

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The corpse of Ginjou, who ends up supporting the world in place of the Soul King.

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A lot of popular characters have come out since the Soul Society Arc.

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There’s a theory that the old man deliberately got captured to oppose the Quincy army.

I was calling Grandpa Ishida’s name a lot…

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After being defeated by Ichigo in the early stages, Grand Fisher and Diroy have been left unattended for over 10 volumes, which is a remnant of the Arrancar arc being put on hold.

That said, if we do the Arrancar Arc first, Mr. Ukitake, who appeared in Volume 3, will probably be delayed just as much.

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>>139

It’s not just me who’s surprised that the Arrancar appear when I forgot and reread the beginning.

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I think Mayuri has enough cards up her sleeve and a high degree of narrative protection, so she could win against Shiroyasha.

In the final chapter, I defeated him with the dark Hitsugaya medicine.

It seems I might lose to someone bottomless like Kyouraku or Gin.

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When the Grand Fisher reappeared,

Being left behind by inflation had a certain melancholy about it, but it’s quite good that my father settled it.

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The spirit king transformation of Ginjo feels even more dangerous than Bach, so as an enemy’s class, it’s not so bad… ?

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After bringing out Bach, the Spirit King, and the Zero Division, it’s unlikely that a trivial training part with Ginjo and the others will be produced… right?

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It’s just that my companions were a bit too weak.

I think Ginjou itself definitely has the qualities to be a big boss.

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The power to unleash incredible strength and talent by sacrificing is amazing.

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Mayuri is… a robot, right…?!

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>>149

Robo doesn’t match the atmosphere of Soul Society, so it seems that Mayuri-sama wouldn’t create it.

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Since Ginjo and Bach both powered up by absorbing Ichigo’s abilities, the final development might not have changed much.

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It feels like there are only the routes for becoming the Death God boss and the Hollow boss that don’t exist structurally.

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Mr. Ginjo has a position that seems likely to be smoothly set up as the final boss when considering the plot aspects.

It may be that if things had remained as initially intended, Ukitake-san would have become an even more important character, and there is also a relationship that has been given.

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>>153

The predecessor who was in the same position as the protagonist is quite significant as a setting, isn’t it?

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If the indigo dye position is Ukitake, then I think there are remnants of that kind.

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>>154

On the contrary, I think this is probably something they didn’t anticipate when they first released it.

I think it’s being kept to just one person in the mislead category.

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It seems that Futatake-san has died while being increasingly filled with unsettling elements.

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Rather, the way Ginjo is treated in the main story is too poor.

What kind of person was he/she in the end?

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>>157

I wanted to take revenge for my comrade.

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“This work is about exorcising spirits! It features bad spirits emerging from a place between the Soul Society and the human world (at the beginning, the name is even blatantly hidden), so let’s get rid of them!” That’s the initial plot.

Of course, it’s only natural to go to the Void Realm, which is the stronghold of spirits.

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Ginjou is just a mere Grim Reaper substitute Pringles.

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If Ukitake’s Hell Arc really comes, he might have some great moments…

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>>162

Why did the sword get so big…?

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>>162

“The Hell Chapter of Reading”

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>>169

BLEACH

The end

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To be honest, the Quincy were pretty much at the level of ordinary people until the final arc, but suddenly they inflated and were filled with non-human characters.

If the order of appearance were reversed, I think it would only mean that the Fullbringer’s strength was inverted.

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By the way, it turns out that Ukitake is not a made-up new character at the start of the SS arc, but an important character on the side of the Soul Reapers from the beginning.

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Isn’t it unfortunate for Chad to have encountered Kyōraku at this point?

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>>166

It’s more pitiful that Ichigo is being searched for by Soken-chan.

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>>166

It will probably end up with a dissection even if it’s reversed with Ishida, and we’ll lose no matter which captain comes.

The lower-ranked Soifon can’t compete because of her speed and instant-death techniques, and Komamura loses fairly in a power matchup.

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Thinking back on it now, why did I end up in a tie with Zaraki-kun… ?

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The captain of the squad that Rukia belongs to is an absolutely necessary presence due to the structure.

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>>171

I think there’s something that Ukitake “14” was thinking about between the Gotei “13” and the Quincy “15” of Kurosaki.

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Mr. Ukitake is a good person who has been around for a long time but is just frail; he just keeps missing the mark in everything he does.

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“It’s dubious whether they thought from the beginning that ‘Shiba Katen, who looks just like Kurosaki Ichigo, would further intertwine their positions due to his death.'”

“Rukia, having gone through the death of the sea swallow position and learned Ukitake’s teachings, does not interfere in Ichigo’s Grand Fisher battle” is something I am considering by the third volume.

On the contrary, when Ukitake first appeared, making him a mastermind would really ruin the story.

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Rather, it feels like Kyouraku-san has a knack for capturing them alive.

Let’s drink until the time! That’s what you said at first.

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>>176

Kyouraku and Tousei had kindness, which was nice.

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I was torn apart by my brother… but I’m living after being treated like that.

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It seems that the Shinigami has been present since the early configuration with Mr. Ukitake.

The Quincy, of course, would say that Bach has existed since its early formation.

The possibility that the technique of manifestation may have been anticipated by Ginjou from an early stage.

Is there such a position for a big shot on the other side?

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>>179

Baragan seems to have a bit of potential.

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>>183

Even though it’s fake, it looks like a typical grim reaper from a story, so it seems like it was created that way from the beginning.

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>>179

Stark Halibel could be made to perform more spectacularly depending on how they are used, and I think it would be fine if Grandpa Baraggan powered up while those two are going wild.

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>>179

From a positional standpoint, it might be Baraggan.

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If I think about whether Hitsugaya and Komamura can deal with the traveling calamity without killing it, then it seems like Kyōraku and Tōsen would be the suitable ones.

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A captain who goes so far as to hold back like that is certainly one of a kind.

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Ishida was able to defeat Mayuri, but I wonder how far he could win against the other captains.

First, as Captain Komamura…

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I risked my life and pulled my bow against the god of death for my friend, so it’s understandable that Tosenn would show me some mercy…

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I wonder if the direct route through the Arrancar Arc will place Grand Fisher as a mid-boss, making Dilo not a joke anymore.

191: Japan Otaku Reviews

Before the Soul Society arc, since we will mainly be tackling the Hueco Mundo with the living world group, it seems that the Arrancars might actually be weaker than they are now.

192: Japan Otaku Reviews

Tohsenn is surprisingly gentle with Ishida, considering his character adheres to the rules.

Thinking about the reason I came to value justice, it seems like it’s about seeing humanity, so I probably wouldn’t have resorted to killing even if I encountered someone other than the near-death Ishida.

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