
There are times when I won’t give seeds to a man who isn’t even the protagonist, but I can tell that my MP isn’t increasing despite knowing that changing jobs is an option…
This guy has a problem in a place where the species doesn’t matter.
Seed thieves can be seen as a gentle way of masking important elements by mentioning relatively insignificant ones.
You are strong enough without needing to dope with steroids.
There are no weak elements in the game aside from being MP0 and dropping out midway.
Isn’t it just a couple of errors at most?
Well, even so, “seed thief” can still be considered a derogatory term.
Considering what I’ve done, it’s understandable to be called harsh names, but just saying “seed thief” is quite kind, isn’t it…?
Everyone likes jokes about Samaltoria and Terry and things like that.
>>7
Well, what this guy did might have crossed the line…
I simply dislike it, not because I’m teasing.
>>7
Those two tend to be the subject of jokes about being unreliable, but the thread image is an important asset, and it leaves at crucial moments due to neglect…
Kiefer knows that his actions are not officially praised, as shown by Maribel’s lines and the way she is treated in subsequent works.
In the first place, the seed thief comes from the template of the Dragon Quest 7 thread about the pot.
My younger sister is too pitiful.
I won’t use this guy’s seeds either.
>>12
To put it another way, I really wonder if she’s truly a descendant of the character in the thread, because Ayra’s stats are really not improving much.
The only thing that surpasses the thread image is the increase in MP.
It’s tough knowing that the strongest ally will simply be gone.
This trash gets through before the tough challenges like a bandit, which is a problem.
It seems that it was moved up because they thought it would be sad if I left after being able to change jobs at Dharma…
You’re the key to the offense and defense of the party.
At that point, it’s tough if the attacker gets past.
To be honest, I like High Priest Foz because she’s cute, but at that time, I wished she were more of a muscular type.
The worst thing was not greeting my family.
It’s problematic in terms of power to lose Kiefer, and the Yubaal event where Kiefer leaves is also quite unpleasant in terms of Kiefer’s actions and the flow of the story, so there are only points of criticism to be found regarding Kiefer’s departure.
It was supposed to be a 4-person party game, but because this guy is leaving, we’ll be back to a 3-person party for a while.
I’m tired.
While discussing the bad aspects, stories like this happen, and the phenomenon of species escaping has become so catchy that it has turned into a synonym.
It’s frustrating that even though I was feeling good from the ED and forgot about this guy, that letter still comes.
I did return the equipment properly, you know?
The situation is the worst with the flow being disrupted, and there’s no chance that things will improve just because this guy went back to the past.
The only thing the people of Yubar did was to revive the Demon King.
It takes time to fully grasp that the protagonist gradually becomes a reliable key member of the party…
At the very last moment, when you say we’re best friends, it’s really annoying.
It was quite challenging normally, and once I got it, I immediately fed it.
Even though it was about half and half with the protagonist, he is still a thief.
I caused a lot of trouble around me, but thanks to this, I was able to defeat the demon king…
It’s just a story about a selfish person who doesn’t think about the consequences and causes a lot of trouble for others, leaving others to clean up after them.
>>30
If Kiefer doesn’t stay, the region won’t revive, so the adventure won’t progress.
It’s even more mysterious because it seems the production side doesn’t intend to present it favorably.
Kiefer before he leaves is also excellent as a combat force.
Send me the fire scissors.
The 3DS version of Kiefer has a defense growth of 579, making him a character you want to keep with you until the end.
I thought that Kiefer going to Yubar would lead to some kind of winning strategy, but it turns out that’s not the case.
Although Jean, who was taken away by this guy, is helpful, he has been separated from Yuval…
I wanted to stick with the ordinary juvenile route until the end.
For now, Jean just self-destructed, so he wasn’t actually cheated on by Kifa!
I had been making an approach before self-destruction!
The man who chose a woman over adventure.
Even though I’m a character who carries a sword, I realized before withdrawing that the only decent sword I could equip was a copper sword, and that was a problem.
It’s a character who can go back to another world but falls in love with a local girl and stays!
Basically, Keyfa swings a big mallet around in the early stages.
In the story, the character might be telling it like it’s a good story, but it feels like they don’t understand the feelings of their family or the people around them at all.
For example, the discomfort in Chagos serves as a foreshadowing for later developments, and the discomfort in Kaboti Village and Le Bre Sac contains the implication that “NPC characters also have their own perspectives and circumstances,” which makes sense. However, the discomfort in Yubaar is truly difficult to understand in terms of intention.
What on earth is this unpleasantry of a super important event, the childhood friend’s departure, without any groundwork or depth?
>>44
This is similar to what happened with Maribel’s withdrawal and return.
The impression of the iron axe received from the mechanical soldier is strong.
It may not be shocking, but I can’t help but feel a sense of amazement; it really feels like this person will continue to be like this from now on.
If Aira were just a little more of a fun older sister…
>>47
The self-centeredness of me who just joined the group is flickering like a thread.
It becomes like, “This guy shows up when you least expect it…”
It’s not “bring me a Viva Grape,” you know.
>>48
It’s incredibly annoying how they just take the protagonist’s role for themselves and act like they’re the ones who brought it, just to earn points.
Is it okay to recognize this as the production side feeling like they have grown, depicting it like a self-absorbed person?
>>50
You’re having Maribel say that on purpose, right?
After the withdrawal, the King of Barnes, who lost his mother early on, was completely focused on his work amidst the voices of regret from the NPCs.
The story goes that Kifa was taking care of my sister, but it turns out to be a nice anecdote.
When you finally come out, it’s terrible to think that even though we had a sibling relationship that was almost like a parent, you just abandoned your sister, you jerk…
In the story, it’s somewhat denied by modern people, and if it’s depicted as self-indulgent, then that’s fine.
And yet, they also take the final act of the ending.
Please forgive my selfishness.
>>55
I forgive you.
I should explain it myself to my parents and sister.
>>57
We’re friends, right?!
>>57
If I had missed that timing, I might never have been able to meet Laila again…
I don’t dislike it that much, and it does annoy me a bit when it’s being criticized so harshly, but I can’t really defend the withdrawal situation, which is a problem.
>>59
Well, the Yubaar-related things are seriously crazy, but up until that point, they’re surprisingly sensible and don’t make a joke out of weird things, so I don’t dislike them.
The lack of humor in Ayra’s lines is so pronounced that you can almost feel Kiefer’s blood in it.
If it weren’t for the issue of withdrawal, there are annoying things too, but it’s more of a feeling that they’re not bad people.
A letter that only contains excuses and trivialities.
The flow of time is different, and they are moving, so there’s no time to return to the castle and explain things myself, so that’s fine.
So I thought you were going to apologize to your family in the letter you gave me when we parted ways, but…
>>62
This guy hasn’t said anything to his family and only talked to us.
If you’re not careful, it could lead to Ars’ execution!
>>64
Seriously, this childhood friend really wasn’t thinking about anything.
>>64
Well, the king also has a conversation with Alus, so he lets him sit on the throne, which gives a sense of closeness, but it’s still that kind of distance.
That being said, it feels like I’m not thinking about anything.
The person I fell in love with was a wanderer from the past…
I just watched a sad love story in the recent Green Flake, so I probably got fired up about it.
>>67
After Pepe left Linda, when I talked to him, he said something like he wouldn’t do something like that.
If there’s enough urgency to say that I won’t be able to meet the people of Yuval again if I don’t go here…
There wasn’t, right?
>>69
I think there was a possibility that we wouldn’t be able to meet since we are a wandering people.
They might be flying through time, but if they’re constantly going back and forth for errands, it probably didn’t affect them that much.
>>70
It’s something like the convenience of the game…
In fact, even if you go back in time right after Kifa’s departure, the Yubarl tribe is no longer there.
How many seeds can this guy obtain by the time he leaves?
To be honest, it easily looks like the protagonist is covering up Kiefer’s death during the journey.
The king trusted me saying, “The protagonist doesn’t lie like that, and on the contrary, my son is the type to do those things,” so it’s a good thing.
It’s terrifying to think that the initial plan was for the withdrawal to be much later.
It seems that Maribel was also intended to be permanently removed, indicating the chaos of the development.
>>73
I wonder if Yuji Horii was obsessed with writing episodes about depression.
>>73
The main character Gabomelvin Aira’s fixed party is too hellish.
>>75
It seems like a party where the conversation isn’t going to get lively…
>>75
Well, I guess this party is normal, right?
It’s hard to leave unrelated people at Maribel’s house.
>>73
There are a lot of Kiefer’s discarded texts, you know…
Aira suddenly starts sleeping at the grave of the provisional Kiefer right after coming out, which makes that event incredibly ridiculous and amusing.
Wild Child Grandpa Lips
This is the party that will save the world.
I also thought that Ayra is honestly kind of pathetic.
It seems like the king, who lost Kifa, is being asked by his sister to fill that void.
>>82
I don’t think it’s sad because Ayla feels like Gran Estardo is her own place.
What was it again? Some of the future weapons can also be equipped by Kiefer, right?
A great hero born from a Yubar named Jan.
>>85
It feels like we are being criticized even more because we are seriously achieving great things here.
A person who is not a bad person but is the type I don’t want close by.
A trash equipment called a sickle.
Jan is really great.
I don’t really want to say much more, but honestly, I think it’s close to Akira Toriyama’s lowest point. I also feel that the overall character design has a negative impact.
>>91
I felt pretty hopeless looking at the illustrations in the manual, but I wonder if all of them are Toriyama’s illustrations.
I like 7 nonetheless.
I still get excited listening to the field BGM.
>>92
(Which one…?)
>>96
I prefer modern times, to be honest…
>>92
I think each episode is dark but outstanding.
At that time, I thought, “Who is this guy?” but now I understand the reasoning behind it.
To be honest, Kiefer before the Yubarl camp is a bad friend who swings around, but I don’t dislike him as he puts himself on the line.
When I arrived in Yubaru, the impression suddenly became worse, and I ended up saying goodbye without even having a moment to recover…
>>93
I seriously think that Horii must have been out of his mind when he depicted the Yubal event.
Aira wanted to see the world freely and left her tribe, but her reactions are lackluster, and in the end, she just stays in the castle, which feels inconsistent.
>>95
Well, I think that personality is just like Kiefer himself.
Kifaa ended up settling in the strict Yubaar after seeking freedom and adventure outside in rebellion against his parents.
When it comes to going on an adventure, it’s also Kiefer who only makes serious comments the whole time.
>>95
The reason Aira wants to travel is probably the same as Kiefer’s, so it doesn’t feel out of place for her to return to Grand Estard in the end.
There were times when I was swinging things around, but since I was accompanying as well, there were instances where it balanced out, so if that premise were turned upside down…
I couldn’t stand the fact that PS7 froze quite a bit.
>>102
It was eerie for me as a kid that game magazines and the like completely ignored the freeze.
I think the hate would have decreased significantly if Ayla had joined in exchange for this guy.
It’s tough to fight because of your irresponsible slackness, idiot.
>>105
Yubaar had long since left and pretended to be a swordsman hiding his true identity, and after a while, his true identity was revealed at Yubaar’s anchorage, where he obtained Yubaar’s sword.
…I feel like it was a good thing, but it seems like the production got a bit messy, so maybe I can’t think that far.
>>119
In the town of snowdrifts, they sell equipment that’s practically exclusive to Kiefer.
There are times when Jean is so amazing that it makes you think, “Who the heck is this guy?”
Aira sometimes says things like “This village is kind of dull.”
There are parts where there are jealous remarks about women and it seems like they might have mistaken it for Maribel.
In Dragon Quest VII, two out of the characters on the packaging art, including this one and Maribel, have left the party.
I can’t help but think that I was deceived.
Maribel will come back, right?
High Priest Foz has a great character design, and I wished he could join us.
>>113
Foz and Shark Eye are just a bit too flashy.
Once you join, it’s like you’ll stand out from the existing members…
>>118
The 7 members have too little charm.
When I talk to Princess Lisa in detail, I’m still dragging Kifalos’s scythe until the game is cleared.
I mean, even at the point of clearing the game, I’m already saying that I need to pull myself together soon.
There were no blind spots for me, trained by Tri-Ace games.
To be honest, the mob character who seems to be more in love with Maribel is the unpleasant one…
>>116
After solving the case in the past at Levresac
The woman who starts saying “I knew it from the beginning” is probably the dangerous one.
To be honest, I can understand that Kiefer is in a state of being carried away by love and unable to think ahead.
Why are you accepting Yubar?
I don’t understand that at all.
>>117
Sure, since they were using a demon repellent at Jan’s Tula, I think having more guardians is welcome, right?
Lyla’s father is also recovering from an illness.
“My younger sister conveyed that my brother has become a person who chose a local woman over family and will not return.”
The only one among my friends who had a striking appearance was Kifa.
>>124
Maribel is also cute!
Especially in the 3DS version, the headgear will come off depending on the job.
>>124
I seriously think that the coolest ally character in VII is…
The color scheme is also very bright with blonde hair and crimson clothes.
>>124
It has a savory feeling at the mouth, but it’s cool, isn’t it?
The king is probably feeling like it’s okay since he got to see his grandchild’s face… but the sister is clearly breaking down mentally, and it’s concerning whether that’s acceptable.
To be honest, I don’t have any complaints about Kiefer except that he didn’t say goodbye to his father and sister himself.
As long as you clear that part, I don’t have any particular complaints.
>>131
Because I might confine you in a room…
I think Saeed is surprisingly bad in Dragon Quest 7.
Understanding that if the three fools were to take over the village, the villagers would become unhappy, they set out on a journey thinking, well, it became peaceful anyway, so it should be fine.
I don’t think Aira looks or has a character that’s that bad… Personally, I like her.
I can’t deny that there has been a lot of noise.
It’s good that Maribel is coming back, but…
Due to the absence of concepts like attack magic power and recovery magic power, the effects of magic remain unchanged.
It’s sad that the performance seems like it can only be used with love, given its low HP and lack of attack power.
It’s a group that keeps moving all the time.
I wish there were a reunion with Kiefer, who has become an old man, at some other event.
A royal family member who grew up without any hardships thanks to taxes, yet shamefully abandons their hometown without giving anything back.
In terms of performance, it feels like Shujou > Me > A > Ga > Ma, and Melvin is capable but…
When you defeat the final boss, it forcibly removes you, so when you’re in the party, the world tour in the ending becomes three people.
It’s not at all helpful that there are people I dislike even more.
Casually, the Caravan Heart featuring Kiefer as the main character is official.
It’s unusual that the setting is not a parallel universe hundreds of years after DQ2.
One great aspect of 7 is that the protagonist effectively fulfills the role of a damage dealer throughout the entire story, including the endgame content.
I wish we had a carriage with eight companions.
Since there’s a setting called the Spirit Mark, it would be nice if modern Pamela or her disciple’s maid, or the chieftain of the Holy Wind Valley had marks and could join as companions or something like that.
>>144
Zaji has a unique graphic even though it will never appear again.
I wonder if my friends had plans or something.
I wish the content of the letter had been truly sincere at least.
If you decide the party based only on performance, it would be either the weak-equipped Gabo or the durability and firepower-weak Maribel.
It comes down to a choice, but considering the god, it’s better to have durability, so I have no choice but to remove Maribel.
The protagonist is a warrior character, just like in other works.
Furthermore, as the protagonist, they also have a lot of MP and no weaknesses.
It’s okay to make the enemies stronger and increase the difficulty.
I want to have a 5-person party, including Maribel.
If I were left behind in the past while serving my lord and only letters reached me in the present, I could understand leaving without saying anything, but…
Completely abandoning responsibility and running away due to one’s own selfishness is too incomprehensible.
Since Maribel’s level was low after leaving, I let her stay at home like that.
I was a kid, so I was fapping to Aira.
The Yubaar tribe is quite a pitiful lineage, yet I can’t sympathize with them at all because of Kiefer and Jean.
There’s a sense of letdown after the gods and the four spirits.
“I wanted a seriously high-difficulty true god battle after the four spirits.”
Like the golden Urnoga in DQ11S.
Isn’t Maribel convenient because she’s quick and has a lot of MP?
Backline recovery has a lot of waste.
>>154
I think it doesn’t matter whether it’s Gabo or Maribel as long as it’s up to Demiira.
If we don’t level up significantly because of the gods, Maribel, who is the healing support, will be taken out first…
I don’t know if it’s because Barbara was too weak in DQ6, but…
Maribel is stronger than Barbara, but it’s still not enough…
I didn’t feel the necessity for Kiefer’s sister to exist as a unique character.
I can’t help but think there was some kind of event that happened, considering how disconnected the character was from the story.
In extreme terms, anyone can become strong in a work-related job if they train hard enough, but Maribel has been absent for a while.
Please allow me to join the great priest Foz as a replacement in the remake.
But my younger sister’s conversation changes frequently as the story progresses…
Thanks to that, I’m becoming even less able to forgive Kifa.
>>162
It’s just that almost everything is related to Keyphalos and it’s all messed up…
Even if it’s not becoming a companion in place of Kifa.
I feel like it would have been nice to at least give the younger princess a chance to hand over key items like stone tablets.
Come on, give me a break!
If the king allows it, I don’t care about your life at all, you know!
Are you planning to make me report it!?
The sister who is getting thinner.
When you get to the root of this guy’s issues, it leads to problems with the game itself, so criticizing him is just the right thing to do.
Maribel feels longer just because she leaves towards the end.
Only the three islands and events related to the Demon King are missing.
>>168
The main reason is that while Helclouder was strong or there were reble sacs, many memorable moments occurred in between.
>>168
No, it’s long.
>>177
DISC2 Melvin is missing about three islands’ worth and one event’s worth.
Melvin’s withdrawal period is about the same as Maribel’s withdrawal period…
I hesitate to say this, but I think it would be fine to erase Kiefer’s existence and make the prince more responsible… Perhaps his departure could be a battle death while protecting his family from monsters in Yubarl.
If the HD-2D remake continues to sell well, is there a possibility that a remake of 7 will also be made?
>>170
It seems like about half of the conversation might get cut off.
The 7 Remake will ironically have more story additions and might end up having a scenario skip like Monsters.
The time flow of the stone tablet is irregular, and since it’s wandering, it’s true that there’s no time to go back normally.
>>174
It’s something that can be understood with common sense, but the problem is that it’s so pointless that it doesn’t even make me want to think about it.
This game is always like this.
Because of this guy’s reckless choice, the male lineage of the Grand Estardo royal family has been cut off.
>>175
No, that itself is fine because I will be welcoming Ayla.
If it means “seed thief (of royal blood),” then it’s not entirely wrong.
The feeling that you could do anything with the remake 7 distribution tablet was interesting.
You can beat bandits with a level 99 hero!
I really like the theory that Kiefer was the final boss in the initial settings.
>>182
If it’s not that much, it doesn’t have any meaning that stands out…
>>190
Setting materials, interviews, analysis data, etc.
Since its release, even with all the behind-the-scenes stories combined, there hasn’t been a single piece of such talk that has come out.
I honestly think it’s like the theory that Terry is Estark.
Is the 3DS version of DQ7 nicely softened while keeping the elements intact?
DQ6 was like that, but…
>>184
Since the profession called “distribution tablet” allows players to ignore job level limits and earn an unusual amount of experience points and G right from the beginning, many players hastily finished the Dharma quest and started leveling up their Arusu.
After the time of 11 has passed, the consistency sought afterward is something for each individual to imagine, and it might just be that time travel fundamentally doesn’t suit Mr. Horii.
Ultimately, it feels like having five people is really half-hearted, especially considering that Maribel was also planned to leave like Kiefer.
Being home alone… Maribel’s parents must be scared too; what if some unfamiliar old man or older sister barges in and takes over the house?
Everyone is just dropping out…
I haven’t really been able to like the story of Dragon Quest from the PS1 era.
I don’t like this guy, chapter 6 of 4, or anything related to Gemma from 5.
>>188
Gema is PS2.
Just because you take time doesn’t mean you can create something perfect; rather, I get the feeling that spending too much time might lead to it becoming all messed up.
I understand that you aimed for something like Doctor Who or overseas drama series.
>>192
For that matter, there isn’t much variety in the conversation…
I honestly prefer the world before 11.
I understand wanting to resolve everything beautifully, though.
If it gets remade with voice acting, I might be able to like Ayra too.
Well, it really doesn’t seem interesting after all.