
Is aristocracy basically just a substitute name for communism since it can’t be mentioned directly?
>>1
It’s the opposite.
Feudalism is capitalism, right?
As long as humanity can’t handle emotions, it’s something that’s impossible for a lifetime, isn’t it?
Well… it seems that aristocracy and communism are quite different…
Aristocracy is the opposite of democracy.
Communism is something that seems to promote equality for all.
Isn’t it something like medieval Europe?
The One Year War is modeled after World War II.
Z ~ Char’s Counterattack is a model for the Cold War with Russia.
F91 seems to be modeled after Saddam Hussein.
Hussein is that noble, so it can be said that it is a noble state.
V is based on the Kosovo conflict, and 00 is based on the Middle Eastern wars, so in some way, they are aware of real-world wars.
Is it a story about creating a proper ruling class?
I would like to hear a bit about why aristocracy seemed like communism.
>>10
Both are idiots, aren’t they?
That’s all it is.
It’s an intriguing theme to consider what twists and turns might occur leading to the revival of feudal society once humans step into space.
An elite and just noble person should govern.
The idea of Cosmo-Babylonianism is that only those people will wage war, allowing the citizens to live peacefully in a beautiful ideal world.
But both Iron Mask and Maizza Rona are not fair people at all, so the concept of cosmic aristocracy was wrong from the very beginning.
>>12
So why do we have things like bugs…?
>>15
The fact that the nobility decides everything means that the nobility also has complete control over the life and death of the common people.
>>15
That’s why Sabine killed Gira and betrayed.
>>15
When there are too many people, it’s a bit difficult to manage…
If you could die about 90% of the time, that would help…
>>19
If you say that, then this is how it will be!
When you say aristocracy, it’s hard to understand, but in short, it’s just despotism.
The emergence of aristocracy as a concept opposing the existing society suggests that the Earth Federation is, after all, being run as a democracy?
What is Zeon?
Nazism?
>>17
In extreme terms, the discussion about space migration seems to imply that it’s admirable, which is slightly different from distinguishing by race.
>>17
Can you explain what Nazism is first?
In the Universal Century, population reduction is something that all rulers, including the Earth Federation, consider…
>>22
It seems like it’s increasing in a way that makes me think they aren’t really considering it…
It’s hard to believe that despite having been reduced by half, the population is back to where it was in just a little over 10 years; it clearly indicates that there is some extremely aggressive population growth policy being implemented.
>>43
Since they have increased too much, I guess I have to reduce their numbers after all!
>>50
You reduced it in the One Year War, right?
Even at the time of the One Year War, it was said to be too much!
Giren’s way of speaking is also unsuitable, but if you think it’s too much, there’s no other way to say that such an abnormal population growth rate shows absolutely no motivation.
>>55
It seems that after the One Year War, the reconstruction of the destroyed sides took priority…
Is it really okay for a mere garbage collector to buy a noble family name and call themselves a noble?
>>23
Isn’t that something everyone has been doing since ancient times?
>>25
In fact, in Crossbone, Grandpa Ummon said that the beginning of nobility is just that kind of thing.
>>23
Buch Company started as a junk shop but is a large corporation now.
>>23
Therefore, it was a pretense that it is a noble spirit and high abilities, rather than bloodlines, that makes one a noble.
The reality is distorted by the insistence on making Bella the successor.
The reality is that we are currently at a point where the expansion of disparities from democracy and capitalism is going too far, moving toward aristocracy.
What the wealthy seek after accumulating assets is the solidification of their status.
>>27
The Earth Federation government is in the same situation around there.
>>45
It originates from the European Parliament.
First of all, Director Tomino is skeptical about democracy…
Geonism is a play on words of Zionism…
>>31
Seriously.
>>33
In Z’s backstory, the top of Anaheim is Jewish, and it clearly portrays baldness as a Jewish conspiracy.
>>37
Chairman Melanie is unrelated to Geonism as an Earthnoid…
>>38
To reclaim the holy land, it is necessary to take humanity other than the Jews into space.
In the future, it wouldn’t be strange at all to evaluate democracy as an irrational political system…
>>32
If we can live happily without democracy, that’s good enough, right?
>>32
It’s not realistic or rational.
Making decisions takes a lot of time and can easily lead to mob rule.
The problem is that the current state of affairs, aside from that, has even more issues.
Well, it would be possible if there were an immortal dictator who never made a mistake…
The so-called Geonism is based on two main principles: the idea of Earth conservation and the belief that Space Noids should have autonomy and be self-sufficient.
It was Giren who started saying things that sounded like the Nazis.
It’s often said that democracy has a lot of flaws.
Degraded Gihren Zabi created degraded Zionism.
Chairman Melanie is opposed to Zionism.
The concept of nobility proposed by cosmic aristocracy is one that possesses high abilities and noble spirit regardless of bloodline, yet the Rona family, which takes the lead, is fixated on lineage, which is contradictory.
>>44
But without that lineage, one cannot convey words in a world of bloodline principles…
But when you actually look at the reality of communism, isn’t it just a class society, especially when you see the neighboring country?
Equality is just a facade, and in the end, it’s a dictatorship where one person holds the power.
Even ordinary workers born in urban areas have an advantage over those born in rural areas.
It is almost impossible for the latter to rise up.
Well, the fact that the top of the nobility isn’t fighting on the front lines is where aristocracy completely falls apart.
>>51
My grandfather Mitzah didn’t fight, but Carozzo and Drell are fighting.
It’s true that the origin of the name “Zionism” is “Zionism,” but when it comes to the content, they are different.
Humanity in the Universal Century should not be compared with reality.
The privileged elite class stands at the helm of power.
Putting aside the substance, where is the communism when viewed as a slogan?
It’s nice that these guys and the cult state are having such a strong presence, it gives a sense of impending doom, right?
It can’t be helped if civilization is buried.
>>58
But wasn’t the burial of civilization several thousand years after the Universal Century…?
Because everything else was broken, there was nothing left to do but have children.
The truth is that governance from Earth may not be able to fully manage the people in the colonies.
The bizarre population increase from the First to CCA can simply be attributed to the bald guy believing that humanity reproduces like planarians!
Even after World War II, it didn’t increase that abnormally.
I want the Cosmo Babylonian War of Independence to be made better…
It seems that the movie only covers the first month of a war that lasts for four years, and it’s a waste considering there are so many detailed settings.
>>63
It seems impossible at least while the director is alive.
First of all, the Earth Federation pretends to be a democracy, but it is not actually democratic.
Active-duty military personnel hold seats while 90% of the population, consisting of space immigrants, have no voting rights.
In the 130s, there are things like the Delaz Fleet, and we can receive the right to participate in politics.
>>65
I think it’s strange to have a setting where space immigrants have no political rights, but since space immigrants are the majority, it wouldn’t be possible to establish tyranny otherwise…
>>65
It seems that there were already Space Noids as lawmakers in that era according to the Flash of Hasa.
Wasn’t it supposed to be over after defeating that Rafflesia?
I thought we would surrender because the general died.
>>66
The supreme commander is Grandpa Myitza.
I really don’t understand why the Brex have seats.
>>67
It’s really amazing that Char is thinking of leaving politics to Brex.
>>67
The Earth Federation may not have the concept of civilian control.
The nobility in reality originally started from bureaucrats who became hereditary.
>>69
The reality is that nobles are subordinate to local influential figures rather than bureaucrats.
So the nobility became bureaucratized, which is the opposite.
Democracy and capitalism cannot originally coexist.
For the past 80 years, it has been deceived in the name of anti-socialism.
Recently, the plating has started to come off.
From what I read in novels like “Senkou no Hasa,” it seems that even if Space Noids become politicians, they end up corrupt and just waste their time on Earth.
The federal government, in principle, proclaims an absolute democracy.
What emerged in response to that was cosmic aristocratism.
It’s just that bald people dislike the privileged class.
It seems that Gihren intended to wait for the true awakening of the Newtype, having won with a 30-fold difference in national power.
“Don’t be arrogant, it’s using the war, that’s what Kshirhia is, brother.”
>>79
Was Gihren on that side?
That’s what a unified government is all about.
When it comes to a unified country, it sounds good, but…
A world managed under one government can only lead to dictatorship.
Isn’t the Cosmo-Babylonianism fundamentally wrong from the start?
>>81
I don’t even know where I would end up if I trace back the mistakes of the Universal Century.
In the first place, unifying was like conquering, right? The Earth Federation.
>>82
In fact, in Africa, there are people who see federal governance as colonial rule and are resisting it.
In Tomino’s Universal Century, there are seats for Space Noids as well.
There is none with Fukui UC.
Giren treated Newtypes more as a banner for manipulation.
>>87
He is more of a successor to Daguin than Char.
>>90
Char is the one who is most trapped by the existence of Newtypes in the story.
He believes that if he is an excellent Newtype, he can do anything, so he says unreasonable things like telling Amuro to get into politics!
When I tried to do it, I was just treated like some radio wave guy, Amuro.
It feels like important people from the federation are also traveling to space.
It’s Kisyalia from the Zabi family who is infatuated with Newtypes.
F91 is originally constrained by the framework of the movie, so the timeline is fragmented and it seems that the war continued for a while longer.
Seabook and Zabine never fought in the movie, but it seems like they fought multiple times.