The male side is definitely an outlier even in the Reiwa era!
Isn’t it more like a gag from the early Heisei era?
Well, I can understand what you’re trying to say.
I’m really sorry.
I want you to forgive me for 3000 yen.
It’s good that the violence from the girls is decreasing.
>>5
The violence of a romantic comedy heroine is something that can be excused because the male characters, like Ataru Moroboshi or Ryo Saeba, are foolish and lecherous.
Using violence up to the point of force majeure is clearly crossing the line.
>>8
In reality, how is the Reiwa era in that flow? This is this page.
The author has consistently introduced a violent and abusive heroine in Reiwa!
The way of looking is different.
Don’t return to the Showa era…
Even if it’s not this extreme, I like a heroine who, when the protagonist is at fault, punches them once and says, “This makes us even!” then raises her fist to hit them again when she catches them peeking, but then says, “I’ll let it slide this time since I was also at fault, but I won’t forgive you next time!” – a balance of sin and punishment. What about you all?
>>11
Hmm, I can’t think of a specific example right now, so can someone bring one up?
In a modern setting, it might be like that, but in a fantasy world, it’s totally acceptable.
Violent Heroine and
A male protagonist who seems to hit women.
How about this for a seesaw game?
I hate violent women who get mad and hit every time they appear, to the point where I don’t understand why they are being violent.
Well, the protagonist of the Heisei era blew up a shoe cabinet, after all…
This guy seems like he has about 30 girlfriends.
I can understand the changing clothes scenario, but…
I don’t like the idea of hitting someone just because they’re flirting with another girl when we haven’t even started dating yet.
I’m sorry for peeking! I’ll show you my naked body instead!
A failing knight who took off his clothes on the spot to flaunt his muscles.
>>19
There was that pattern in Eva too, but calling it perverted! In the end, I got punched anyway.
Being too inherently sincere makes it hard to feel sexual desire, which isn’t great.
It’s not very impressive to act sincere at the last minute despite having sexual desires.
I don’t actively engage in sexual harassment, but it’s good to be honestly lewd to some extent.
As long as it is not unreasonable, it doesn’t mean that there is zero violence and abusive language.
You hardly see the type of troublemaker who either drives the story forward or hinders it anymore, do you?
>>22
That was purely unpleasant, so I’m glad it disappeared.
>>26
However, as a reaction to the newfound peace, there has been an increase in kids who get seriously angry at troublemakers of Prilun’s level.
>>22
I had characters like that aimed at children, but I realized that children hate that the most…
Ahh, I’ll make the protagonist sincere and compassionate, like in the Reiwa era. No, no, no, a violent heroine is tough in the Reiwa period. If you think about it… well, then the readers’ hate will be focused on the heroine. I’ll show you how to create it. What are you saying? Managing character hate is important, you know?! It’s important to align with the modern reader’s awareness of compliance issues, but that idea already seems to exploit the vulnerabilities of compliance awareness with a violent heroine… It seems suspicious, but will it really be okay? The end. @a110ami
If you understand it that much and still create it, it must be a fetish, right…?
A violent heroine who seems to be accepted even in today’s sense feels like a rare treasure.
>>27
Isn’t she a heroine who seems more scary than cute right off the bat?!
>>27
Where’s the heroine element?
>>38
Gender: Female
I feel that the reason why violent heroines became popular is Rumiko Takahashi.
>>28
It feels like the continuity that has been going on since the Showa era has been broken.
In the end, as long as it’s not unpleasant, that’s fine.
Pretty much 100 Kano.
Why do you like violent heroines so much…?
Interesting…
I like you… that’s about all I can say.
What the author initially wanted to create was a buddy story featuring a tired, lightweight older man and a jealous, verbally aggressive young girl who loves older men.
>>40
I will support the author.
>>40
It seems to be quite common if you consider it as a “girl who teases and plays around.”
No, I’m only thinking of erotic manga…
The consciousness of trying to exploit the system’s vulnerabilities is malicious.
When I watch Urusei Yatsura now, Ataru seems quite harsh, so it’s not necessarily out of the question to have problems on the male side.
>>42
Characters like Yokojima and Saeba also seem to have a balance, but looking at them now, it feels like it’s going to be tough.
I’m curious about how they will create the holes in the next round.
Is it really okay for a heroine to be violent towards a sincere protagonist?
>>47
There are still plenty of heroines who use verbal violence instead of physical violence.
I think I’ve changed a bit.
>>47
100 Kano taught me that it’s good to turn a sincere protagonist into a monster.
>>47
Sincere, but has 100 partners…
It’s not good that the “little shit troublemaker” character is often used by authors and screenwriters as a starting point for the story, becoming a true nuisance without any growth or reflection.
For me, I didn’t really care that much about the new anime, so it was just that the vibe of the old anime and Toshio Furukawa’s voice were a bit too much.
>>49
Mr. Furukawa is not at fault at all; rather, it is proof of his acting skills, but I found the anime Ataru to be too creepy and difficult to watch.
I didn’t mind it in the original work, though.
Oh no!
I’m remembering if Haruhi has ever been violent towards Kyon.
>>55
I have never directly used violence, but I have mostly only engaged in harassment.
>>55
I have never hit anyone.
I’ve kicked it lightly before, but…
I have grabbed someone by the collar and swung them around before, though.
Instead of making the male protagonist lewd,
The pattern of making the heroine a sex-crazed monster has completely spread now.
I remembered seeing the title of “Urusei Yatsura” and thought about how, when I was a kid, I used to watch the anime on Kids Station and found Jyariten incredibly annoying and stressful.
>>57
Sometimes getting hit but immediately being patted and not being blamed… I’m glad that kind of character is gone now.
>>57
I’m an old man from the real-time generation, but I absolutely hated that and caused a fuss to change the program, troubling my parents.
I remember saying that I don’t understand at all why my parents hate it so much.
Harem romantic comedies have set the optimal solution for the protagonist’s likability with 100 Kano, making it relatively tougher for other romantic comedies.
>>58
I don’t understand the meaning…
I like relationships like Pikachu and Ash.
In short, it’s enough to make the readers think, “Is this guy sincere, but also a human…?”
There are people who actually get angry over manga.
Sometimes you need to do something unusual.
Make the man super strong and relatively lighten the heroine’s violence to a mild retort.
>>65
Hahaha Dosukoi Dosukoi
Even when watching the latest love comedies like Himaten and Shido, it feels much more stress-free than it used to be.
Isn’t the revival of the seriously lewd protagonist what’s really needed?
The reason why light novel harem protagonists fail when they try to artificially suppress their sexual desire is because it feels unnatural.
Jaritens have a strong sex drive…
There have been men who are extremely masochistic since around the Heisei era, I guess.
If you do something unpleasant, it doesn’t feel good unless there’s some kind of backlash.
Sanctuary characters are currently disliked.
I want to hit her, but the heroine is so weak that I can only inflict punishment as faint as a mosquito’s buzz.
>>73
There are sometimes puppy-like heroines who hit you lightly and say “Come on!”
Huh? Could it be that Koi Taro is actually the final answer or the ideal response?
>>74
There are some people saying things like that up there, but that’s only because the premise is a gag-like setting, so it only works because of that.
>>74
In romantic comedies, the protagonist can start off with a high favorability rating during the serialization, but can suddenly drop towards the end, so I think a conclusion can’t be drawn until the serialization is complete.
>>139
Komisan is a communication disorder, and so is Tadano.
Until the controversy erupted, I remember it had a relatively high approval rating even anonymously…
>>173
Well, it feels like I kept picking the wrong options, but if there’s a main contender and even if it’s a decoy, in a heroine race, the outcome there is almost guaranteed to be chaotic.
It feels like women are sometimes forgiven for causing trouble or being violent.
The hate in the case of being a man or a brat is incomparable to when it was a woman.
The lewd protagonist is far more unpleasant than the violent heroine, so it’s fine if they disappear.
The lewd main character can still be seen in many erotic isekai stories even today.
It means that while it exists, it’s just not in the hit works, right?
>>78
When it comes to whether it’s necessary for the story, it tends to become a work in that direction.
I think there are ways for City Hunter to avoid unpleasant elements or do things well.
>>79
Unlike Ataru or Yokoshima, Saeba’s lewd behavior is more of an adult’s composure or a humorous playfulness.
>>79
That involves striking with an impossibly large hammer pulled out from somewhere.
“It might be that the setup for the ‘perfect gag depiction’ is going smoothly.”
The protagonist uses violence against the heroine, like in Neuro.
I like a balance like Ruirui, the prince’s friend.
I understand the feeling of wanting to be subjected to violence by the heroine.
I recently saw a female protagonist with her sexual desires on full display.
The lewd type of protagonist has transformed from being lewd and proactive to a properly lewd but cowardly protagonist who can’t take action.
>>85
Why are you regressing…?
>>93
If you get involved, it will breach compliance…
>>93
The way of saying “regression” is first a difference in perspective.
>>85
It’s not that I can’t reach out.
I only get excited from watching!
I’m only excited when it comes to shooting!!!
How’s Issei from High School DxD and his boobs?
Even if we say “lewd protagonist” in one word, it changes with the direction and degree… I think it’s okay if the “guhuhu” type has basically died out in works other than erotic ones.
I feel like Furukawa-san was talking about how complaints came in because of my acting…
Really…? I asked myself again what I want to draw… Is it the brother’s ridiculous behavior…? This ridiculousness!!! I’m glad I was able to realize the essence. The conclusion is this: what I want to draw is the girl who is astonished and says, “This is ridiculous!” Therefore, it became clear that “if the girl judges it to be ridiculous, it doesn’t matter how the brother behaves.” If being ridiculous is a false charge, then the future brother is innocent! Typically, ridiculousness ranges from low to high. The girl’s perspective is a case of defamation. It really is just a betrayal of trust.
That’s why the author is like this…
>>91
I feel like it’s just about acceptable to get excited over this cheeky little loli!
With the assumption that the protagonist is deeply in love.
>>91
Hex
Essence
>>91
If you know what you want to draw, then that’s good.
A sincere protagonist is possessed by a lewd demon, and every time the demon tries to come out, it is sealed away with violence.
They are a trustworthy author.
It’s more favorable to be true to your desires.
Regarding Rumiko Takahashi’s works, Hakkou-san is a character that represents the extreme of unpleasant, stress-inducing lewd characters, so relatively, the others seem better.
Reiwa Farm
Next time, it’s this!!
Cows grazing on grass…
Expansive grasslands… peaceful grasslands…
But it’s convincing that active perverts are popular.
In reality, that type doesn’t have any trouble with women.
This method is from To LOVE-Ru’s Kotezawa!
If I had to categorize Saeba, I think he leans more towards Cobra and that sort of thing, so I believe he is a protagonist that can definitely still exist in today’s world, much more than Ataru or Yokoshima.
I don’t know who she is, but the girl who’s drawing casually is cute.
Well, I prefer it when I don’t act on my lewd desires.
When a character touches a girl’s butt, it makes me a bit uncomfortable.
>>107
Are you the type to say you dislike Jin from World Trigger?
>>114
Aren’t you really struggling to nerf that butt-touching habit and trying to fade it out?
>>114
I really hate that habit.
>>144
You’re being too much of a clean freak, no matter how you look at it.
>>155
From the side, if someone like Neduke or Kinuta were doing that, it would be totally off-putting… I wouldn’t even like it if it were Shinoda.
>>155
In that regard, everyone has their own values, so if we don’t settle it, it will never end.
>>107
I see.
Are you put off by married people?
>>118
If you’re married, it’s no problem.
There are people who, like perverts, touch the butts of girls passing by and say, “Hey, you’ve got a nice butt,” right?
That is a little…
>>138
What the heck, they’re just a criminal.
Of course, I would run over him too.
>>138
If it’s the main character, it might feel a bit off, but for supporting characters, it’s totally fine.
Personally, whether or not the protagonist is around here also affects how easy it is to accept them…
In recent works, the role of being judged for wrongdoing has been assigned to minor roles like banishment or similar.
Stories where one is judged, reflects, and then grows from there have significantly decreased.
There are also lewd types like Kazuma from KonoSuba in Narou, but when the time comes, he runs away; on the other hand, it seems that those who don’t have that much sexual desire tend to practice polygamy.
In the first place, if the erotic elements are overflowing and the scenario itself is either exceptionally well done or falls into the category of romantic-comedy, then the impact of the erotic content diminishes when it is not a fundamental aspect of the work.
There are times when you can get away with it using the power of lewd drawing.
The pinnacle of a lewd protagonist is Iboguri-kun…
I thought it was someone else, but it’s the person from Overlord 4-koma.
There are more people who, when approached by a girl, don’t reject her but also don’t actively welcome her, taking a sort of “oh, here we go again” stance.
I don’t intend that at all, but they keep approaching me anyway? It’s like that.
>>116
Like the exile type, the protagonist is actually one of the ~ types, isn’t he?
>>116
Is your perception stuck in the 2010s?
If the violence is being concealed out of embarrassment, then it can work.
Pure violence is just…
>>117
How about a fighting heroine?
>>117
Even so, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s unreasonable, so there have been instances over ten years ago where that heroine was less popular…
I really don’t need love rivals or love triangles.
>>120
Let’s do it this way.
The two heroines like the protagonist.
Both of us, who are dual wielders, like each other.
Such a love triangle.
>>134
To be honest, yuri and lesbian characters are niche, so in general magazines, they are only set up as annoying characters or characters who are easily swayed…
>>120
Honestly, when you’re looking for pure love, you don’t need a heroine who is about to waver for a rival in love.
>>120
Shoujo manga will be devastated…
>>120
That said, once you start dating from the excitement of not being able to confess, things just don’t progress anymore.
In other words, if it’s a loli heroine, then it’s safe because there’s no damage even if she uses violence against her big brother, right?
The limit of tolerable depravity is probably around Reg from Made in Abyss…
100 Kano is not suitable for elevating to an ideal type in this kind of discussion and using it as a stick to hit on, for various reasons…
In works from China, Korea, and Taiwan, there are still poorly written heroines and violent heroines who bring some enjoyment to the story.
I want to see the previous story about the demon loli normally.
>>128
The children’s inheritance that leads immediately to REM sleep is just too much of a character today…
I think Koitaro could be a little more erotic.
It’s not about sexual harassment, but rather trying desperately to suppress looking at someone with lewd eyes.
>>129
Well, it’s not that I don’t have sexual desire, so that’s fine.
I want to see more erotic scenes.
I hate myself for quickly resorting to harsh words and actions, so I try to bring that scenario to the forefront as soon as possible.
>>131
Akane from Ranma?
>>131
It really gets bad when hands start to come out…
The relationship where male lust and female violence were even has now, in the late Heisei era, become solely about violence, and that violence has also been removed.
However, the works that are doing old things like “I’m already fed up with ◯◯” tend to sell better during these kinds of discussions, so in the end, it’s just the otaku’s contrarian nature.
>>133
Anonymous is constantly criticizing the exile genre, and it’s getting more and more anime adaptations…
It would be nice to have an impact that blows away the impact of violence.
Yokoshima is a regular criminal, but he hasn’t been sued just within the limits of sexual harassment…
If you say it’s one of the extremes of this kind, then maybe that’s true.
Before Urusei Yatsura, there was probably a peak in pure love stories, and the boom seemed to be relatively short-lived.
How about the protagonist being a veteran who can handle the heroine’s violence?
I thought so, but Sagara Sosuke is just being punched normally.
Since Jin’s sexual harassment predictions are seriously the worst, fans are choosing to pretend it never happened rather than awkwardly defending him.
>>152
Many fans consider it to be a way to adjust favorability to manipulate the future.
>>176
Isn’t this an official setting!?
I think that while a harem in a fantasy world might be acceptable, in a setting resembling modern Japan, it tends to evoke a feeling of aversion.
Of course, it’s a different story if there is a clear reason that can convincingly persuade the readers.
For some reason, I detected a 100-kano vibe from the man in the thread image.
After reading Negima, I felt like saying “don’t hit a 9-year-old,” but I also thought that even though it was unavoidable, destroying clothes was going too far…
>>157
Even if it’s a case of lucky lewdness being unavoidable, I’m a bit concerned if there’s a possibility of financial damage like in the case of peeping.
Maison Ikkoku is interesting, but it’s quite stressful.
Jin’s RNG manipulation is a terrible habit, but…
If there aren’t at least some terrible parts like that, it becomes too competent, and I wouldn’t like that either.
Is a CV (voice actor) Kugi Miyama necessary?
>>161
It’s necessary, or rather it’s to verify the facts.
Because the future is visible, sexual harassment is also safe and secure.
>>162
Whether I get hit or not might be fifty-fifty.
Looking at Yokoshima now, the character feels quite harsh.
>>163
The goddess is also pretty bad, and she normally has a terrible time, so the balance is maintained.
I feel like I haven’t seen a heroine with a love interest separate from the protagonist in a long time.
>>165
Today’s weak otaku relentlessly criticize a protagonist for not being devoted, calling them a flighty bitch.
>>165
That’s the realm of shoujo manga.
I like Jin, but I think the predictive sexual harassment is garbage…
A girl who is puffed up with anger is cute, so just tolerate it if she gets a little physical.
I think so, but I can’t say it out loud.
>>169
If it were a world that allowed for it, girls wouldn’t get all pouty and angry, would they?
It’s an era where not only authors, but also completed manga are required to be revised and updated to fit the times.
When it comes to violent heroines, Love Hina leaves a strong impression.
It was a given that everyone would beat up the protagonist.
What is a flirtatious brother?
A guy is selling his butt to various men, huh?
Are you going to be blamed by a girl for that?
…I really want to see it…
If we’re talking about the optimal solution, then there are legends like ToLOVEru and Ayakashi Triangle, which are way better than 100 Kano.
>>177
It’s just an ero-comedy, so it’s not taken seriously.
Rito is quite indecisive when it comes to love.
I stopped reading when Horizon started getting involved with the three heroines who were in love with the protagonist.
The one doing the hitting is also just a 14-year-old kid who doesn’t have much sense, so it’s understandable that they would act that way.
If I can really do this, it seems like I could create an era.
Ikkyu Sukyora
When you think about it, having a hobby of touching women’s butts is something that wouldn’t have been accepted even in the Showa era, right?
I feel that there has been a significant increase in protagonists who are completely passive, both for men and women.
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