
Wh-… 16 is it…!? I don’t know anything about 16…!! Don’t touch it, 18! Don’t you dare!! Go ahead and try moving it, 18. Seems interesting. No… this is bad!! Stop…!! Do you want to destroy this world itself…!! 16 is a prototype and a failure!! You absolutely must not move it!!! I heard they disposed of up to 15, but despite being a failure, it’s still around, huh? W-Well… I was planning to remake it eventually. Anyway, don’t move it; the prototype could end up strangling us!!
I’m really anxious.
Is this based on imitating my son?
If you’re imitating your son, it’s a compelling reason not to want to break it.
>>3
At this point, it has an abnormal level of performance that cannot possibly break.
For some reason, they have a self-destruct bomb hidden in that.
But it has a self-destruct device installed…
There’s no need to worry about destroying the world at all…
A failed creation that only targets Son Goku.
>>6
I glare at the target in front of me, thinking I was created to kill you, but since I prioritize Earth’s peace without causing any harm, I am undoubtedly a failure.
An embarrassing black history created with a surprisingly human emotion.
>>7
I don’t want to break it…
The output is about the same as Cell Second at this point, so I guess I don’t want to release it.
It’s nice that despite having so much affection for his family, even going so far as to create artificial humans resembling his deceased eldest son and daughter-in-law, the only one he is disliked by is his surviving second son, Hed.
I wonder if they hadn’t decided whether to make Cell or someone else the final boss?
What do you think, Senbei-san?
I wanted to ask what you were trying to do around here.
In the anime, characters 13 to 15 appear, but what were the lines like here?
>>17
Movies are generally treated as parallel and don’t consider consistency, so it doesn’t change.
Your son’s hairstyle is amazing!
It was only hinted at a little in the explanation of the cover illustration.
You’re talking like Zhao Kuo’s mother.
Although there were some defects, it is said that numbers 13 to 15 were well-made, and that is also established in the original work.
I wonder if they thought that since he is the son, he would be able to defeat Son Goku and gave him the mission.
Numbers 17 and 18 have gotten too long, haven’t they?
Hacchan gets really strong starting from the next, next, next one.
I tried making it based on my son, but because I gave it a good personality, it turned out to be somewhat lacking as a counterpart for eliminating Goku.
Moreover, I don’t want to make them kill each other, so I sealed the existence that has the same face as my son.
Most of the androids over here are good, except for Android 19.
“Is the vomit of No. 20 a good thing?”
Number 19 was just fighting against the devil-like aliens that attacked Earth, so they might be a good guy after all.
>>30
I don’t think it’s a good thing that they’re attacking the city to draw out Goku…
It’s sad that number 16 was destroyed, but even if he survived, he would end up dying from the fight with Buu anyway…
The way of setting up a joke like the Dacho Club.
He doesn’t resemble my son at all and it’s frustrating, but I can’t get rid of him.
As for the grandchild,
>>34
I think it might be one of the motifs that you want to see.
>>36
I feel like he resembles Schwarzenegger… It’s lonely that he doesn’t interact much with Trunks.
In the end, why was Trunks not recognized in the future he originally came from…?
>>37
Nothing has been revealed.
Number 19 has both intelligence and violence, so if the timing is just right, it seems like it could betray.
I wonder what Toriyama-sensei was thinking when he released number 16.
It’s too calm and nice to be a final boss candidate, but I wonder if they were thinking of a story where it fights Goku in a battle to the death.
It seems that it was officially stated for the first time in a media outlet that he is my son in Super Zero.
I can only say that it seems like I don’t know anything before Super Zero.
It’s so puzzling why they were so devoted to the Red Ribbon Army.
>>44
Isn’t it more resentment towards Goku for crashing the sponsor rather than a sense of obligation?
>>44
Perhaps it’s because Gero himself was essentially the top or one of the founding members…
The technology of incorporating the reactor from movies 13 to 15, which can be seen as a Trinity, connects to Cell’s power-up.
They were properly trying to carry out the job of erasing Son Goku.
It’s unclear why it’s regarded as a failure.
>>45
It didn’t start up as scheduled.
I don’t quite remember the movie, but I feel like it started in a weird way.
Even though it’s 100% machine, it’s so high-performance that it can give Gohan advice from the heart.
I love nature and living things, but I can make rational decisions that would use bombs that could destroy half the Earth to defeat Cells.
To me, the 16th model only looks like a great success.
>>47
When I’m told to do something bad, I refuse, so it’s no good.
>>51
This probably means that if I create a bad android, it won’t listen and will be useless…
>>72
Even if the performance is sufficient, if you’ve struggled with control for a long time, then even though Unit 19 may have lower performance, it might have been quite a successful project in terms of response, at least in a certain sense.
There are parts around the Android Saga that seem to have changed from the initial concept.
>>48
Is this a humanoid robot I don’t know!? Or is something gross from the future coming!? I quite like that aspect as horror.
I think it’s the weekly live feeling, but I believe it’s having a positive effect.
>>61
In addition to this area, I love the Android saga the most because of Gohan’s awakening coolness.
>>48
Even when reading normally, you can feel it, but when I hear the conversation with the editor, they mention that having the 20th issue be the final boss seems lame, so I wonder how much it has changed.
I wonder if the person creating it was in a high spirits, thinking they could even put bombs in the android modeled after their son.
I tried moving it, but it’s really impossible… I guess I’ll seal it…
At that point, they were overwhelmingly the strongest and wouldn’t listen, so of course, it was too scary for Gero.
The specs themselves were already more than enough with version 16, so it just needed some improvements after that.
After temporarily sealing No. 16, it became clear that an external unit in the form of a living being was needed for Cell, so I decided to focus on creating that for the time being.
When I finished, my body reached its limit, so I made Number 19 with some leftover parts and started making Number 20.
I thought, “Isn’t it possible to go with 19 and 20?” so I feel like it’s time to set out.
>>53
Planning!
>>55
Since it was made with the assumed strength during the Saiyan invasion, it’s only natural to be overly confident.
>>56
I can tell that it became significantly stronger due to an incredible breakthrough.
Too strong against the expected fighting strength.
It’s just that I happened to travel closely with 17 and 18, so I grew up healthy, but if I had been used by the RR Army, there was a possibility I would have tried to destroy humanity even more than Cell.
The 16th version I made earlier is too strong, and if he turns out to have the same terrible personality as before, it could really lead to the destruction of the world, right?
It seems that I am listening to the order to eliminate Goku, even with this personality, so I probably won’t disobey it.
Maybe Number 16 hasn’t been revived by Shenron after the Cell Games, right?
I don’t know if it’s because I’m not human or because I’m stronger than Shenron.
By the way, if it’s not based on humans and is stronger than Shenron, could it be that there’s no way to revive?
>>58
If they are geniuses outside of the establishment, they might not just be able to replicate No. 16 as is, but could possibly transfer memories and recreate it.
>>58
It’s a personal interpretation, but I feel that if it’s completely mechanical, it lacks a soul altogether.
The resurrection of Shenron is a way of calling a soul from the afterlife back to this world.
Robots do not have a soul, so they cannot be brought back and probably do not exist in the afterlife either.
>>74
When Buu blew up the Earth and it was restored, Hatchan and Androids 17 and 18 were revived.
Maybe I just haven’t thought deeply about it.
Number 16 probably failed because it doesn’t listen to what Gero says.
Numbers 17 and 18 are the same.
>>59
Was there an android other than Number 19 that listened to you?
>>60
Completely stopped listening and failed.
A failed creation of a gentle heart has already been done in number 8, so don’t keep repeating the same thing.
I don’t have Dragon Ball on hand right now to check, but at first, in Trunks’ future, didn’t number 17 and 18 from the past become 19 and 20?
>>65
They said it was Number 19 and Number 20 causing a ruckus in the future.
It might be that the guard robot, which understands human emotions, couldn’t be used for bad things…
Isn’t it only Number 16 who is a named character that clearly exited due to death and wasn’t a bad guy?
Grandpa’s grandson Gohan, or something like that.
I thought GT’s Gero was the repaired Android 16 from the preview.
I wonder if Arale-chan has a soul too…
Well then, does that mean it was destroyed when the Earth was destroyed and that’s it…?
The line about planning to rebuild it someday feels real.
A human killed by Cell wishing for Shenron! It seems like it would be okay if we individually mentioned 16 and Arale like that.
If you wish to rebuild No. 16, won’t it get fixed?
There was a theory that the people of Penguin Village aren’t actually dead, which I heard somewhere was said by Toriyama-sensei.
Once awakened to justice from conscience, it may truly lead to physically choking someone.
Since everything except the creatures blown away by Buu on Earth has been fixed, the robot should probably be okay too.
The descendant was a genius.
At the stage where it was raw vomit, it was somewhat crazy.
When I transformed myself into No. 20, I might have been tuned up quite well.
He looks just like his son, but their personalities probably don’t match at all.
The week after the face of Number 17 was revealed, there was already a thread image.
Maybe the cell hasn’t been decided yet, and this guy was progressing as a candidate for the final boss?
The editing is terrible, isn’t it? It’s like they’re just messing around with an old man or a kid.
During the time of Buu, there was a revival and restoring the Earth, so I think the complete robot was revived by restoring the Earth.
A wish aimed at those who were killed at the time of the cell.
The No. 21 was reconstructing the No. 16.
In the end, what concept was created by making the cells and then completing it by absorbing Number 17 and Number 18?
>>91
That was created by the computer on its own…!
>>91
It seems they caught a delinquent kid from around there and modified him, but actually, those two have had a remarkable unique constitution since they were alive, which probably felt necessary for the growth of the special cells in Cell’s body.
>>106
Bulma also said that she’s almost human, you know.
>>91
Oh, the computer made that on its own…
I was a bit surprised to learn that I had assumed that 17 and 18 were around their early twenties, but it seems I was actually thinking they were teenagers.
That’s childish.
By the way, my wife is way too sexy, Doctor Ero.
I wonder if Gero’s wife was really a gorilla.
>>96
No. 21
>>96
The appearance is sexy.
Number 19 is weak in terms of the balance in the story, but the fact that he thought he could win after confirming with the Frieza family using a spy robot is impressive enough.
And it’s quite impressive to have the skills and loyalty to perform the surgery to convert Dr. Gero into Android 20.
>>99
You shouldn’t have done that.
I didn’t know about Super Saiyan.
>>103
That.
So the spy robot and the underground computer were operating away from Gero’s hands?
Or maybe the reconstruction surgery is such a big task that it takes more than three years, so you weren’t aware of it?
>>103
If the data up to Vegeta’s arrival on Earth was used to create this, then Dr. Gero is extremely cautious and a super genius.
>>116
Bulumaru and her dad were praised for being too genius…
The messy hair of No. 21 seems to be a design inspired by No. 16.
Hacchan was a good guy, and it might be more difficult to make a bad robot.
I thought I wouldn’t lose to No. 19 because I had slacked off on the investigations since Planet Namek.
The spy robot and the computer worked on their own and gathered cells from that guy called Frieza to create Cell.
Not listening at all…
There’s a high possibility that they aren’t really thinking that far ahead, to be honest.
Plant the instinct to absolutely kill Goku with gentle emotions.
I quite like the distorted affection of someone who installs a self-destruct device without actually disposing of it.
It’s hard to say whether they were thinking of the son’s setting at this point, but it doesn’t seem like they’re trying to resemble Gero.
>>111
Well, while I’m drawing, I wonder why 16 is so kind → Maybe I should make it as a result of resembling the son who has lost his vomit.
It must be like an association game.
Isn’t there a question about whether Cell was not designed by Gero? They mentioned it briefly in GT.
GT’s 17 is really an unfortunate situation, or rather, a terrible story.
But when I think about it, it was a terrible story from the very first modification.
In games from the PS2 era that hadn’t released settings yet, it was said, “I am not programmed to follow your orders.”
>>115
So whose orders will you listen to?
Who is this Super Saiyan? → I read the name and realized it was Bulma and Vegeta’s son… it seems they hadn’t discussed any future developments at all.
Could it be that the Red Ribbon Army, which had androids like this, was actually dangerous?
Despite feeling inferior to Dr. Brief, he is being told by Dr. Brief that he is incredibly genius.
The Trunks who killed Frieza due to a misunderstanding and the next Trunks who came are from different timelines, which gives it a slightly horror-like feel.
Although he couldn’t control it, he still created Hachiyan, who is stronger than Goku at that time.
Kondo-san in charge also said that the Android Saga was tough for both of us.
It seems that Dr. Hedo’s parents, who fled in rebellion against the RR Army, left behind a large inheritance, so there’s no doubt that he cares about his family.
It seems that multiples of 8 will be skipped.
It feels like Android 19 is not as strong as Frieza.
>>128
You’re definitely strong, aren’t you?
Frieza is at a level that Goku from three years ago can defeat in an instant.
Grandson Hedo is on top of everything in terms of vomit…
I understand Frieza, but did we really need Frieza’s dad’s cells?
>>131
Despite being ridiculed because of his disgraceful behavior, King Cold is clearly stated to be stronger than Frieza.
This area probably hasn’t been firmly established yet, but it makes sense as a justification for why they didn’t bother to dispose of it, using their deceased son as a model.
>>132
The excuse-laden reasons left behind also score high.
>>132
The Android Saga has many elements that are worth considering and imagining about Trunks’ timeline, and it’s really interesting.
>>132
Despite claiming to destroy the world, their personality is calm, and their maximum power is only half of that of Earth, which is modest compared to others. So when you ask why, it becomes the easiest to understand.
Gero: “I hate Son Goku! I’ll smash him!”
Gero’s computer: “I want to create something super strong, no matter what!”
It makes sense to say that I didn’t want to throw it away just because it was strong, but if a family member is the model, it becomes more persuasive.
Hearing the behind-the-scenes stories makes it seem like a mess, but it didn’t bother me that much while reading.
In the end, 161718 Cell was a good character, so it’s all good.
>>137
I think it’s impressive how they managed to incorporate such a complicated element like time travel into a weekly live format.
>>137
These guys still have flavor even now, it’s amazing.
The method for manufacturing a perpetual energy machine is being kept secret by vomit.
Perhaps it could only be adopted because it couldn’t be reproduced by computers.
Since one unit doesn’t have enough output, two people are needed.
While saying “someday,” I haven’t fixed the future of my trunks, have I?
>>142
You were probably killed by the 17th unit before it was fixed.
It seems that Goku’s personality is different in the time he is alive compared to Trunks’ future.
The special move, Hell’s Flash, is supposed to be a technique that fires towards Earth, yet the damage is minimal, so it seems like it doesn’t have maximum firepower.
>>143
Vegeta’s Big Bang Attack should be stronger than the Galick Gun, which can destroy the Earth, but its damage range is smaller.
I think you’re good at controlling that kind of thing.
At first it was just Doctor Gero, but before I knew it, the whole family has become bound by vomit. It’s terrible.
I used to think “gero” meant frog when I was a kid.
According to Mashirito, Toriyama-sensei is a genius at making things fit together.
It seems that even that genius couldn’t manage it and ended up throwing it away, which appears to be the time paradox.
There was a story that Mr. Torishima called from the old man up to No. 17 and gave some criticisms, but recently he himself has denied it, suggesting it might be some kind of misunderstanding.
Then who…
>>146
Mashirito: “Hey, it’s an old man—(impression)”
The text appears to be incomplete or unclear. It may not have a direct translation in its current form.
“Did you take it as ‘Hey old man’ (denying)?”
>>146
I was talking on the radio, but Mr. Kondo.
I feel Bulma’s influence in Trunks calling Android 18 (20) a cute girl.
Are Number 17 and Number 18 clearly designed as enemies?
At that time, Number 17 was definitely a character with a bad vibe.
At this point, number 16 is the strongest, so if I wanted to, I could destroy it.
It might be a bomb that destroys the Earth.
Well, it’s said that Masiritto mentioned it during the editorial meeting right after the serialization ended, but I don’t really know how it actually was.
That radio became a mystery super Saiyan at the time Trunks appeared, and when they had a meeting the following week, it turned out he was Vegeta and Bulma’s son, which was surprising! It seemed like they hadn’t thought about it further than expected.
Toriyama said that the editorial department did not particularly oppose the ending of Dragon Ball, but last week on the radio, his editor Takeda mentioned that he was being pressured a lot with “There’s absolutely no way I’m letting you end the serialization!” So, well, it’s a difficult situation.
It may be that they lied taking advantage of Toriyama’s death, or it may be that they became able to speak about it because Toriyama passed away.
In your world, 17 and 18 are probably numbers you don’t even know.