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[Tales of the Abyss] I was surprised by the low popularity among women.

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A tragic heroine and a big-breasted character prone to hysteria.

For some reason, I’m disliked.

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>>1

I wonder why…

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Who is popular with women?

Colonel?

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Maybe Colonel and Ash.

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It would be nice to have a scene where they directly confront each other’s feelings.

In the end, it turned out that there was no opportunity for recovery.

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And what appeared before me was Luke fon Fabre.

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Natalia seems to be disliked, but I think I’m popular here?

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>>6

It seems like there are also BL fans in Tales.

It seems like Ash and Luke’s pairings, or Luke and Jade’s pairings, are quite significant, and it looks like official pairings with Luke, like Tia, are also affected.

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The maiden inside me is screaming that Ash and Sync are popular with women in the Abyss.

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>>8

At the time of the original release, Ash was not that popular.

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Rather, who are the popular female characters in Tales?

Is it Rita or something?

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>>10

Velvet?

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There is no image of low popularity…

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It’s not that there is a lack of popularity among women, but…

Isn’t it more appropriate to say that there are many female anti-fans?

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The heroines in Tales series generally have low popularity among women, don’t they…

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It was being unusually criticized, wasn’t it?

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Super vibration!

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Tales Fest is a legend.

I’m scared of women.

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Well, it was a series that had quite a bit of popularity among fujoshi at certain times…

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I was writing something about Tales, and it mentioned that the majority of people who buy games are male otaku, while the majority at festivals and events are female otaku. So, the early Tales Festival situation was more about the male voice actors being the main attraction rather than character antagonism…

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Having a lot of anti-fans is a different matter from having low popularity among women.

Well, if you think about it normally, I think it’s fine to say that female characters with high rankings in popularity polls are popular among women.

So in that case, it will be Rita or Velvet, after all.

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Tia seems particularly unappealing to female fans among the Tales heroines.

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>>21

If my breasts were smaller, would there be fewer haters?

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Well, that being said, I think it’s a bit too much for the staff to require practice for cheering at later events, if they thought it was a problem.

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I’m not very familiar with it, but I’ve heard that when female voice actresses appear at Tei Festival, they often remain almost silent, which is a pretty terrible level of performance.

I want to believe it’s just a rumor, as expected.

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>>23

It’s not a rumor; I’ve seen it in an old video.

I wanted to think it was editing.

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I feel that there are few designs in Tales that are likely to be popular among men when it comes to the female characters.

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>>24

That said, there aren’t many female characters that are particularly popular with women either.

Riara and Phara were strong in the second half, while Mira and Velvet were quite strong.

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I can’t really look at Tales in a too suggestive way.

It’s not that I dislike it, but…

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Scary…

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The event had a lot of participation from female fans, didn’t it?

I don’t get the impression that male fans are particularly interested in events or merchandise.

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There is a strong image of a lot of hate-driven creations.

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I have the impression that Natalia was the one getting criticized more, but to be honest, it feels like all the companion characters in Abyss were being criticized due to the younger fanbase at the time.

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I remember watching a festival video in the past, but honestly, all I recall is that the inside jokes were quite overwhelming.

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The reaction to the festival is simply that I’m not interested, not that I like or dislike it.

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It used to be on Niconico, but it has definitely been deleted now.

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Based on my impression from when I was in the jar, I have a memory that Colette, Tia, Estelle, and Cheria were disliked by that kind of crowd.

It seems that the more popular a work is, the more fans there are like that, which might be why heroine characters are disliked.

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>>35

I think Colette is really weak above all else.

Being weak in that position is tough.

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>>46

I’ve only played the PS2 version, but there’s no way Colette is weak.

As long as you adjust the orders not to throw the chakram, there is no problem at all.

The Grand Cross had cheat-level performance, didn’t it?

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>>62

Huh…?

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>>62

Air pros are amazing…

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>>73

It’s an answer that comes after going through it many times.

Of course, the fixed setup had the half-elf siblings, and they were in the front line with Lloyd, but it was either Presea or Colette depending on my mood.

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At that time, it was said that the gender ratio of game players for Tales was about 7:3 to 8:2, but it would completely reverse during events.

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To be honest, my personality isn’t very good.

Well, there are things like age and position, and if I say that, everyone will think I’m a bad person.

When you think about it, Luke is also a protagonist who draws popularity like Ludger.

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Because I’m 16 years old…

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Velvet was a well-crafted character that could resonate with both men and women, aside from her appearance.

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It’s not a funny kind of mean-spiritedness; it makes you wonder why you would say it that way.

I realized after saying all this that Tia is similar to the “His” phase of Hisgori in FF15.

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I feel like Marie could be more popular with women.

Chloe was quite popular with women too.

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I think it’s better than Esther…

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Before getting his haircut, Luke doesn’t get upset with Tia’s harsh way of speaking.

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If I had to say, the way it was treated both within the story and outside of it was somewhat disconnected from the character’s words and actions.

I think their words and actions are a bit harsh but age-appropriate and cute.

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When I bought an anthology book in my childhood without knowing, I found the distance between Jade and Dist to be unusually close, and I wondered about it… I guess it was like that…

The story of the female member working part-time at a maid café was cute.

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I heard that Esther wasn’t really liked during the production either.

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Tales will not let anymore battle maniacs or fujoshi have their way.

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If there was no combat, what should we look forward to in Tales…?

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>>50

I think you’re a harmful presence in the content, without a doubt…

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>>57

I am truly someone who is concerned about the future of the Tales community!

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Tia has recently been associated with images of firing a rocket launcher.

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Basically, she’s an emotional young girl who is age-appropriate in her behavior, and she’s not particularly capable, but for some reason, the way she’s treated is strange.

There’s no way you’re more capable than Rion. What do you mean by that?

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I hate to say this, but it seems like in Abyss, each of the characters has something about them that makes you dislike them.

Even the parts I like will surface over time…

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When I think of characters that have a lot of anti-fans in Tales, I think of El.

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I have the impression that only a very small number of people are strongly holding on, but basically, I think it is being accepted.

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The fan works for Abyss were all anti-hate for a while, and it was discouraging.

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Well, there’s no huge atonement success event to look back on, so it’s like “Wow, Luke!” but there aren’t any young event-like things that should be there.

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Well, for women, the heroine in a game with a male protagonist is essentially just a rival in love.

There’s no reason for it to be popular.

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It’s no good, now that I look at it, I feel like even the thread’s breasts aren’t that great.

But back then, I thought, wow, what an amazing pair of breasts.

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It’s treated like a melon in the story, so it must be really huge in reality…

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It was no good being next to Asbel.

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I thought Anis seemed tough during gameplay, but I was surprised when I looked online.

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If it’s now, I might be able to have such big breasts that my upper arms won’t be visible.

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It seems that Shiina had harder performance in Symphonia.

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Shiinaga is overwhelmingly in last place, and Colette is in second to last place.

Being in third place from the bottom also shows quite a gap.

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The combat itself in Symphonia is already tough.

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I’ve never heard of Grand Cross cheat performance before.

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>>70

The Grand Cross of Symphonia has a strong forced collapse in the first stage.

Anyone who is not immune or absorbing damage can break the guard, so all you have to do is attack where the guard will break on the first hit of Grand Cross while having the character you control guard against the enemy.

Of course, that kind of performance is gone in the Abyss, but that’s to be expected.

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Shina and the chairman are a bit questionable, but I don’t have a strong impression of Colette either.

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Symphonia features a fixed half-elf sibling duo.

Roid would also switch based on fixed options and mood.

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Could it be that you know this type from something like Raise?

“But it seems that the Rays didn’t have a grand cross either.”

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It was almost always fixed with Lloyd and Presea as siblings.

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To be honest, I wanted a bit more from Arise as a combat enthusiast.

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>>78

Basically, the legal collectives are systematically breaking down.

When it comes to strength, it tends to be quite fixed, you know.

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The old Tales games were good.

It didn’t sell with easy eroticism or character affection.

He was tough.

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>>82

I was thinking about the old Tales games, but did Mint and Arche not have female popularity either?

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>>86

There was Arche.

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>>82

You’re lying; the character popularity was overwhelmingly strong at the time of Destiny, right?

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>>82

…Well, I wonder?

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>>78

With a fixed three characters, it’s a choice between Zelos/Kratos or Presea, and everything else…

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I wonder what the biggest breasts drawn by Kosuke Fujishima would be like.

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Isn’t it true that the series was nearly destroyed because it was completely abandoned by the battle maniacs during Z?

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Within the range I heard, Judith and Rita are also popular.

Independent women seem to be quite admired.

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>>88

A simple strong character tends to be popular, doesn’t it?

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>>88

Big sisters can always gather a certain number of fans…

If you get caught between a protective princess character and the childhood friends Yuri and Flen, that’s just not good.

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>>94

Things like this tend to fit into the pseudo-family category if they’re a bit more loli, and instead become more popular.

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>>96

That’s it, El.

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Sophie was also very popular among women.

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Arise was getting off with Kisara’s butt, but I wonder how popular that lineup is.

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Colette is a heavy woman, you know.

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Isn’t guard breaking something that applies to all techniques?

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>>95

If you do it properly, you’ll understand, but there are certain abilities where you can enter armor during the chant of angel magic (so you won’t be interrupted even if you get attacked).

So there are times when I can only choose to chant Grand Cross… I’ve always done it this way in every round of the past hero battles.

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I love Elise and Elle, they are cute.

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Rita looked like a lesbian.

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I mean, you’re a strong sexual person, right?

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Rita is just easy in every direction…

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Loli is popular because it’s a romantically harmless pet.

Popular as an object of admiration for adult women as well.

The evaluation from women of the same generation is the harshest.

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My sister said she likes Tia Estherymarta.

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I have the impression that popular female characters among women tend to be either quirky, down-to-earth types, or cool beauty types.

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Abyss seems like it has an image of having anti-fans who dislike all the members.

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Is it tough with childhood friends like Sheria and Claire?

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>>108

Claire is not a combat member, and we haven’t traveled together, so it might be difficult to judge.

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Well, I can tell that something overly feminine probably wouldn’t be well-received.

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In Arise, the beginning is tough on the protagonist, but I wonder how it will turn out.

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There are some women who like the combination of the protagonist and the main heroine, but they probably aren’t representative of typical female fans.

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Well, I think there are more people who evaluate based on “I like this coupling” and “I like this character,” regardless of whether they are women or not…

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Everyone hates this game.

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>>113

Well, I think they intentionally portrayed that part.

It seems they were targeting the tension.

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>>121

Playing was really tough in the early to mid-game.

Everyone feels uncomfortable…

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It seems like the protagonist of Berseria might become quite popular, but I wonder.

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>>114

I feel like the female character ranked highest in the popularity vote.

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I suddenly remembered that I didn’t like Princess Agathe.

That said, it’s not like I hate them enough to want them to meet a sudden death at the end… but that’s how I feel…

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Rather, it feels like the really tough part is just beginning, and I feel like saying, “Don’t run away from life.”

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Is it better to have a combination as completely determined as Arise?

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Characters like Leia and Alisha have the image of being liked with sympathy as they fall into the category of tragic figures.

The most prominent frame of that is Luke.

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I don’t think Ester lacks female popularity just because she has a lot of anti-fans.

At that time, Yuries was quite strong on personal websites.

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>>122

There might be a difference in the sheer number of people due to the popularity of the work and how loud the voices of the critics are.

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Anis’s blunders are so remarkable that even the loli counterbalance can’t possibly offset them.

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>>124

There are so many traitors throughout the series that it’s almost a joke, but Anis’s betrayal has resulted in deaths…

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It’s one thing for fans to be anti, but what’s with having staff members who are openly anti?

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It was revealed through the visitor survey that 40% of the attendees at Tales Festival are air players (have never actually played for even an hour).

The actual player gender ratio is 8:2 male to female.

The survey related to Teifes has a note that it has nothing to do with social games (which are already over) or the main game at all.

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>>128

I hate to say it, but it’s a large-scale voice actor event.

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>>131

Different

About 40% are just watching skits on YouTube and creating illustrations, manga, or novels.

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>>133

About 60% of the people creating were those who had less than three hours of playtime, and it was a bit chaotic, maybe around before the pandemic.

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>>133

It seemed that there were quite a few people confidently declaring that they are watching gameplay videos and writing/drawing. I thought to myself, “Are they really saying that?”

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>>128

During the peak of the rays, I will use it only as a reference for merchandise production.

It was clearly stated in the Teifesu survey that the implementation order of the game will not speed up.

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As mentioned above, having a lot of haters does not necessarily mean that popularity is low.

When something is truly unpopular, it becomes irrelevant and doesn’t even get criticized.

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When it comes to Tales, it’s all about pairing novels, right?

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Well, it’s true that you can create something by watching videos on YouTube…

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Since Arise has achieved the highest sales in history, the next one will probably be for the next generation console.

In the end, it didn’t come out on the Switch.

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In the end, which one is more popular, Aluery or Alray?

By the way, I’m a fan of Aluerirei, but I can’t find anything no matter how much I search.

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>>140

Men 1, Women 2 are just too unpopular with women; it’s like the genre changes…

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I mean, there are more people who casually enjoy NL than same-sex relationships, so I guess that’s why Yuriers is popular too.

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If you’re watching a video, it’s better, right?

I wrote it after seeing fan works.

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It seems like there would be even more now.

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