A tourist girl has her wallet snatched → Giorno retrieves it from the thief and returns it to the girl → She thanks him, but he smiles and says not to worry about it → Giorno takes the money out of that wallet and buys ice cream with it → The title appears in a refreshing atmosphere.

That’s strange, isn’t it?

>>4

Wasn’t this mentioned not only in the commercial but also in the main anime?

>>146

I’m saying.

I watched the first episode the other day, and they said it, completely caught off guard, and I burst out laughing.

I won’t forgive the CM.

>>146

Originally, it was written in the author’s original door illustration explaining the origin of Giorno’s name, and it was used as a line in the anime.

>>7

Is it okay to have an ethical perspective of “just ignore it” after violently crashing into a truck that almost collided in the third part?

>>7

Did Jolyne really have such a strong sense of ethics in the story?

Wasn’t it something like you used to shoplift or something?

The protagonist of Part 4 is a wallet thief too.

>>9

Well, they are who they are.

>>9

It’s probably easier to just take the winning ticket that I know the contact information for, rather than dealing with you.

>>17

Despite being the person’s confession…

Is it acceptable for Joseph to fire a machine gun in the store just to defeat a vampire…?

>>16

As I said myself, there is a proper reason for my actions, and compared to Caesar, it’s quite cute.

Considering my upbringing, I tend to hold back quite a bit.

I wonder what kind of life Jolyn would have had if she had lived like that.

I wonder if I was awakening to some talent and living happily.

It’s laughable that a petty thief and con artist like that has a golden wig.

Even though he’s a small-time villain, Koichi-kun says he’s somehow refreshing right from the start.

Original anime is roundabout.

Jotaro eating and drinking without paying while acting righteous is brutal.

I don’t know if JoJo’s naturally trashy aspects are drawn to be cool or if the author’s sense of ethics is questionable.

>>27

Personally, I think Jonathan is just about right.

>>27

It seems like they enjoy something fluffy while taking off their shoes inside the car.

No matter where or what I’m doing, I just want to look cool because I have a bit of noble blood in me, right?

It’s not just good and evil, but divided into good, evil, and wickedness.

The image of Araki’s ethics is that there is justice even within evil.

Jonathan eats messily too…

There may be a thought that even if a good person does good things, it doesn’t get that much excitement.

It’s like a premise of gap moe.

It feels cheap and uncool to do things like dine and dash or take money from someone’s wallet.

I used to be a killer… but more than that, I used to be a shoplifter… and I don’t want to have someone like that as a companion.

I heard that the money taken out isn’t actually a significant amount.

It’s not about the amount of money.

>>34

In fact, the amount extracted in the original anime is just under 1000 yen.

Josuke’s handling of Omotchii and the lottery situation, regardless of his parents’ wallet, is a bit off.

Chinchiro… it’s against Rohan anyway, so it’s fine.

>>37

We’re casually talking about dining and dashing at Tonio’s place.

Whether it is legally or morally acceptable is a separate issue from whether readers or viewers can accept it…

If bad deeds make the world more interesting, then there are no rules.

Creation is guaranteed the freedom of expression.

Speaking of which, how did Giorno live before episode 1?

>>41

It should be in the manga.

I think my mother was Japanese and had black hair in the past, but… I’ve forgotten, so I want you to look at the paperback.

Because the person I admired became a gangster.

A born criminal.

Having a golden spirit doesn’t make you a hero of justice or anything…

I understand that you don’t want to be what they call a golden spirit later on.

Isn’t it the case that works like “Five Parts” and manga are over 30 years old, so their moral perspectives are different from now, and you can just accept it as that?

Isn’t it strange? Even if you say it’s strange, it’s only natural for it to be so.

>>48

I don’t quite understand that defense.

Even the ethical standards from 30 years ago aren’t acceptable.

>>56

I guess it’s a matter of degree.

What’s bad is bad, but it was considered to be a level of wrongdoing that could be overlooked.

The golden spirit isn’t necessarily about orderly goodness…

Just because one complies with the law doesn’t mean they have a golden spirit, and people do kill too.

If the term “black will” had existed during Part 5, I feel it could have been entirely applied to Giorno.

>>52

I can really feel that Jousuke is making Angelo and Enigma suffer worse than death, even though he hasn’t actually killed them.

This guy is the scariest when he gets angry.

>>91

Enigma got cocky and took it out on his mother, which turned out to be fatal.

>>91

I won’t say that doing something when you get angry should be as natural as breathing.

If it’s for a purpose, both Jonathan and Giorno possess a dark will that means they can actively kill people.

I think Josuke is on the side of the responder.

Petty villain

Thirty years ago, was it a time when a bit cocky junior high school student smoking and drinking would be overlooked as just being cocky?

The idea of making money by turning ordinary citizens who know nothing into drug addicts is actually just what it takes to become a mafia boss.

I kind of understand, but I also think that it’s a gang at the same time.

It’s not a hero or anything like that; it’s a gang.

It’s a rogue anti-social group, not just punks or delinquents.

He might turn out to be a decent guy for a gangster.

Jotaro is no good.

>>62

A delinquent student is still somewhat better than a gang.

I was liked by the women around me.

>>68

Those who don’t like it will hit their teachers, and if the food is bad, they’ll dine and dash, yet they insist they’re labeled as delinquents.

>>63

When you enter Passion, everyone starts to look strange.

In this world, there is a kind of pride that cannot be given up by either good or bad people, and those who do not possess such things are treated like scoundrels or inherently evil.

On the outside, he’s a gentleman, but it’s the one who gets tricked who is the fool; there’s a bit of a Dio-like quality to it.

A man who doesn’t make you fall in love just by looking at him.

>>67

After reading the fifth part, if I saw that, I would think, “Hello, Araki?”

Josuke tried to scam Rohan out of money and ended up burning down the house…

Was it Rohan-sensei’s problem that burned?

It’s really petty, even with crimes.

Do not expect a mere middle school student to commit a grand crime.

Giorno was trying to return Koichi’s passport.

The ones that will come out later are the ones who use shovels in a fight, the ones who take out eyeballs, and the ones who try to make you drink urine.

Stealing is at least better.

Wait a minute!

Mister isn’t doing anything weird!

>>74

My armpits smell.

Mista deliberately broke Narancia’s boombox…

The protagonists of parts 5, 8, and 9 are designed from the ground up to have both good and evil traits.

Giorno is genetically Dio and Jonathan.

It seems like Caesar would win unless there’s murder involved…

I’ve never seen someone talk about ethics and morals in JoJo before.

Well, don’t get worked up, just have some tea.

There is no decent person other than Jonathan, right, protagonist?

Mister seems to really smell.

The discussion about compliance and ethics has only started in the last 10 years or so.

If it were 30 years ago, shoplifting, smoking, and drinking would have been considered normal.

There were also plain old bikers.

What is the revenue of the gang that says they don’t allow drugs?

Are you talking about protecting someone and extorting?

Also, in Italy, is it about controlling garbage disposal interests and siphoning public funds?

>>87

What about a gambling house?

Josuke also has some pretty tough sides to him.

It would have been dangerous without Koichi Hirose.

Prostitution, arms dealing, gambling, usury, extortion, forgery, kidnapping.

“Is that so? Even if you’re not doing drugs, you’re still worthless!”

There is also a golden spirit that starts from the point of crying after being seen by a guard while masturbating.

The scene where Jotaro talks about being labeled isn’t about making an excuse that he’s not really a bad guy; rather, it’s used in the sense that he’s recognized as a delinquent in society and has done these bad things, but he can’t tolerate someone like you who is inherently evil.

Overall, seeing the protagonist, it feels insane that Jolyne is relatively better off.

The only decent one is definitely Mr. Joestar!

Well, Angelo is committing top-class evil acts among villains that appear not just in JoJo but in Jump manga, so that much is…

>>96

That guy is a bisexual pedophile and a murderer.

Honestly, I feel a stronger sense of cause and effect than with Diavolo.

Even Jonathan is quite mischievous…

Jolyne probably just masturbated!

>>99

The reason for being caught isn’t completely innocent…

There are also scum who stuff dogs into incinerators, make Polnareff go up and down the stairs, and impregnate several people.

There were also depictions of Jolyne being guided in a juvenile way and getting into trouble.

I think that scene is a great representation of what kind of person Giorno is, even though it’s original content.

>>103

It might be because I’ve been writing the script since the first part, but in the fifth part, the resolution for each character is especially high, right, Yasuko-nyan…

>>103

It’s less of a breakdown from the original work compared to the original depiction of the trash who simply steals from Koichi-kun.

There’s no doubt that you, Jolyne, are an accomplice who helped conceal the hit-and-run.

It seems they picked out the outfits for the five members from a fashion magazine.

What kind of fashion magazine features such bizarre fashion?

It’s not something the main character’s team would do to lynch an innocent person by mistake and not even apologize…

>>108

Even though I escaped, getting involved with a gang gathering was a mistake.

It may be unreasonable, but

>>108

It’s scary that you’re more worried about the cost of cleaning instead of the injuries or lives of those who were attacked.

I didn’t really want to know that Fugo wears thong panties.

>>109

That’s why teachers are coming on to you like that.

But unreasonable crimes and violence are indeed very typical of overseas.

The stance against drugs is something that Diavolo might think is absurd coming from a gang member like me who works under him.

>>114

Well, Bucciarati is clearly not a person suited for the underworld.

>>117

If the Rolling Stones hadn’t encountered Giorno, I feel like Trish’s escort would still have been successful, but at the point of the handover, she would have ended up getting angry and challenging the boss, ultimately dying.

>>114

Bruno Bucciarati became a gang member due to his circumstances.

From the boss’s perspective, it’s really terrible that he doesn’t understand the reason for betraying Bucciarati.

Even though they engage in various activities other than drugs, they still put on a pure facade in that one area… There’s definitely something wrong with that.

It would definitely be too much to expose Luka with teary eyes, no matter how you think about it.

>>120

But when it actually came to selling drugs in Part 9, I was like, “Seriously?”

It’s like saying I swear I haven’t killed anyone.

Drugs are dangerous, but isn’t assassination just as dangerous? That’s true.

Why did Bucciarati become a gang member again…? I need to read it over again.

>>124

To protect my father, who was almost killed after witnessing a drug deal.

It’s unclear whether this story is meant as a sales talk for the lower ranks or if it was just a period that existed, but it seems like Passion has had a time when they emphasized that they don’t make their living from drugs.

>>124

My father was almost killed because he witnessed a drug transaction.

Bucciarati repelled the gang that came to silence them, but since retaliation would come anyway, they urgently joined another gang to avoid further reprisals.

In the end, my father died about five years later (before the main story began).

Is it a case that Caesar, who did everything but kill, is absolutely unforgivable?

Although he was angry, it feels like Josuke is accustomed to using his ability in an extreme way, such as embedding a knife in a hostage-taker.

>>132

Without hesitation, I could pierce through my mother’s belly…

I think the introduction expressed a refreshing and endearing character quite well.

The person who made the Monstole CM was just admiring the scene where money is taken from the wallet, treating it like it was a handsome man…

I think this is just an element to emphasize the initial serialization’s aspect of “This time, JoJo is in the mafia and Dio’s son!?”

As the series progressed and the story moved into internal conflicts within the mafia, both the readers and the author gradually forgot about that aspect.

The eruption is bubbling up; Miyamoto has blended into the book, what is the line of difference?

Miyamoto certainly targeted his mother and Koichi, but Fuunami was also targeting Professor Rohan, right?

>>137

Funiage is doing something as well, but since there’s the goal of healing his own injury, it’s better than Miyamoto, who is doing it purely as a hobby…

>>137

Do you think Josuke would completely lose it just because Rohan-sensei was attacked?

Ultimately, the reason I got all worked up was probably because I was attacked next.

A man whose way of living is a mystery.

>>139

It seems that I have a relationship with my father-in-law where we can understand each other just by seeing each other’s faces.

Heaven’s Door is visible.

Jonathan was also secretly smoking pipes, and it seems like he was quite a mischievous kid in his younger days.

>>144

That’s just a little bit of a bad kid or a bit of showing off.

It wasn’t like it was particularly rough or anything.

The difference between forgiving and not forgiving is quite clear when it comes to being rough.

Even if we discount the fact that she is my blood relative, she is still a non-Stand user…

I mean, all the characters in the story are really strong with their own rules…

If the Kamakura custard I kept in the refrigerator gets eaten without my permission, I won’t hesitate to give a beating.

Despite being pummeled in the reception, I’m still alive thanks to gag compensation.

Hamburgers clearly do not go so far as to kill.

Giorno is seriously dangerous because he kills normally.

>>153

Josuke does things to Angelo and Enigma that are worse than killing them…

Is it perhaps because Jotaro doesn’t show much delinquent behavior in the story?

I probably didn’t pay for the jump, beer, and cigarettes that I had Star Platinum bring to me.

I laughed at both the Bonjorno scene and the Wazap! scene.

Mr. Araki sometimes lets people say what they want, implying that you shouldn’t answer a question with another question, but directly linking the morality of the characters’ actions to the author’s ethical views is not much different from Twitter feminists.

I think it’s just a matter of there being various types of people, so there are those kinds as well, but there are also some like in the thread without a name who seriously want everyone on their side to behave decently.

I don’t think it’s a bad thing, and in fact, it’s a story about internal gang conflicts, even though it’s considered more of a good guy theme in the work.

I understand the discomfort with the idea that someone doing bad things is somehow cool, but I can only say it’s because it’s a creation.

Welcome to the world of men.

>>162

It’s a cowardly world that forces us into a situation where we have no choice but to kill each other.

You have just become a boring person who gets worked up over fictional evil deeds.

Giorno really has a convincing character as the son of Dio and Jonathan, doesn’t he?

Isn’t it better that Giorno at least recognizes it as a bad thing?

I like Jotaro himself, but looking at it now, the part about eating and running away seems not much different from being overly cocky.

>>167

Even someone like me uses such expressions, and Joestar is aware that it’s not an act that is publicly praised.

I’m Dio’s son, you know?