>>1

Well, that’s not entirely wrong either.

In the end, it’s humans who are riding, so they can’t fight indefinitely.

Dainsleif

The things I couldn’t stop.

I discovered Hashmal.

The reason that gave the police grounds for the crackdown was the defeat.

The fact that I missed the biscuit.

At the point when he picked a fight with Gallarhorn before the biscuits, it’s already over.

>>12

It seemed like it could have been wrapped up neatly around the end of Season 1, but once Mackie had his eyes on it, it was game over…

Joining the Yakuza

Dortmund

Building up to a checkmate since the first phase.

I think there were various timings to rise from the gang.

I kicked everything…

Director

The space mouse stops dreaming beyond its means.

I’ve become a pawn of McGillis…

It should have been large enough as a backup, though…

In other words, it’s all Macky’s fault.

I should have sold Barbatos and used the proceeds to start farming in some countryside.

>>22

Mars is already so rural!

>>23

It seems better on Earth because you might be able to plant your feet on Mars.

In the first place, according to Gundam’s conventions, enhanced humans can’t survive.

Even if you stay on Mars, Hashmal will eventually appear.

Isn’t it terrible?

In other words, was it already a dead end by the time Barbatos was activated…?

Everyone was stupid.

>>28

I want to win.

There is nothing.

You can’t be a selfless fool.

>>28

None of the characters were interesting, and it wasn’t funny at all to watch.

Regarding Hashmal, it’s also bad that a huge fool has barged in.

He’s so stupid that even his own faction thinks he’s an idiot, and just when I thought he had reflected on his actions, he turned out to be an idiot again.

If you have arms, you can dodge the Dainsleif.

The fact that an inexperienced pilot was on board.

The protagonist dies a dog’s death, and the story is like that, yet it’s hard to tell if it’s good or bad that Barbatos is so popular.

Because the protagonists are a group of human debris that hasn’t received proper education…

Everyone suddenly had a drop in IQ at the end, which was bad in a negative way…

>>36

It’s so ridiculous to see the constant pump-and-dump tactics, isn’t it?

>>39

Sudden monkey!

Sudden hitman!

Well, you know…

They probably wanted to contrast the monkey and the Tekkadan, but in the end, it’s the child who can become happier by being taken in by the wealthy.

It was just a worthless depiction that resulted in a completely obvious outcome with no message at all.

Thanks to the Tekkadan, I remember that the flow of human debris was being resolved.

>>38

Whoa, the Tekkadan is amazing! Let’s keep using debris more and more from now on!

In the final episode, it’s just that society finally decided to take action, so it doesn’t really matter that much.

It’s fine to be inextricably linked with Mackie.

Why did you make Olga say she’s selling Mackie?

>>44

I was feeling desperate in that area, so I managed to get by somehow…

>>45

If it’s someone who would sell, we wouldn’t even team up in the first place…

If you politically isolate Gundam and surround it with an army, it will crumble easily! I wonder if that’s really fun… well, I’m not sure.

I think the reason for the defeat was that Mackie, who I thought would be secretly active in various ways, changed his character to that of a foolish hero-wannabe, Bael.

>>47

Isn’t it basically a loose plan with a full live feel from the start, like Maky’s operation?

It wasn’t particularly interesting to watch the political drama either.

It was a work where I didn’t know what I should have seen.

The farm blew away, my brother died, and yet I still think I could have stopped.

To develop a yakuza-like story where it’s about doing or being done, having the police vs. police rebels plus former yakuza is something I can’t quite put into words, but hmm…

If it was because you were cornered and it just slipped out, I can somewhat understand that…

But when it comes to someone who went to take revenge, even breaking the sake cup, just because Naze’s brother died, would they really sell out now?

Speaking of politics, though.

Macky is a silly character who takes old literature at face value.

Lustal from the opposing side simply sends spies to infiltrate every time and just blames that guy! He’s just a character like that…

Why is it that when other Gundams challenge the authorities, they do it, but not this one…?

In the final episode, the meeting between Orga and Mikazuki will be depicted, right!? Viewers who were looking forward to that were in for a laugh.

In a way, they’re just like Mii-chan, these guys.

A child who continued to make mistakes in a shitty environment and is now stuck.

>>57

It’s better compared to the beginning, and it wasn’t like I kept making mistakes anyway; it was an environment where I would die regardless.

It’s obviously wrong after Hashmal, but…

>>57

These guys themselves are stuck, but the survivors they have brought along are achieving results, so isn’t that good enough?

That’s just how fleeting things of the era are.

In the end, the fact that the Tekkadan only had violence as a card to play was problematic.

Abandoning guns and choosing the path of peace is not permitted by the surrounding environment.

I think it was a mistake to be genuinely infatuated with Brother Nameze.

To be honest, Nameze’s older brother was quite a problematic person, so it would have been better to keep a certain distance…

“The members are not disposable! Let’s be reasonable about this! Yet, McGillis says, ‘Selling them off, we’re not involved, that’s just lame.'”

Moreover, McGillis is urging me to disembark since I acquired Bael.

I cannot accept Rascal’s surrender; becoming a sacrifice is reasonable.

Adults aren’t really functioning as adults, huh…

There are a lot of bad adults.

In the sense of not interfering with the management and doing my best with my own matters.

The office uncle who was secretly saving funds without interfering too much is surprisingly the most capable.

In the season of revolution, I have no idea which side will come out on top…

At the beginning, my diet was good enough to maintain my muscle bulk.

Even in the second season, it was an environment where death would occur if a battle broke out anyway.

When they say the environment has improved, I think…

There are too few intellectuals in the group… Would it have been somewhat different if Biscuit were alive?

>>66

I wanted someone to be in charge of intelligence, or rather, a strategist…

>>66

In the end, I wonder if we ended up parting ways like Takaki did somewhere.

I can’t blame Olga…

I thought that we also had some kind of secret ability that Bael possessed, and that Mackie was planning everything with that in mind.

>>67

Every time this is said, but when Maki actually appeared as Bael, it definitely had the effect of stopping movement as a symbol of authority.

>>70

Even if we can’t change Olga’s policy, it’s good for her mental health to talk about it, which is why I’m here.

When the biscuit died, instead of getting stubborn, we could have just handed over some combat personnel and MS to someone like Naze’s brother, and then focused on farming on Earth or something…

There are some who are watching quietly, so it’s not completely a facade, but is that really all there is to it…? That’s the feeling with Bael.

>>72

Even amidst the ongoing frustrating developments, having that done to me only leaves me feeling fuzzy.

A place or a world where punks are affirmed as punks makes it impossible to live long.

Even so, it was considerably better living than being a real yakuza or under state power, so we managed to avoid total annihilation by relying on our heads and main forces.

To be honest, everyone knows that if the Tekkadan remained an armed group as they were, they would die.

But it’s not interesting to spend over a year, including the six months leading up to season 2, just having a fool die as a fool.

>>78

The kids are becoming regular soldiers in other Gundam works, and they are really putting effort into the setting.

The biggest reason for my defeat was teaming up with Mackie, lured by that nonsensical thing called the King of Mars.

The smartest one was Takaki.

The one who remained the biggest fool is Ride.

I didn’t die just being an idiot or anything.

The world is properly changing for the better.

However, in such a world, those who can only commit murder should not be allowed to live, so they must die.

It’s just that, and it doesn’t change what they’ve done until now.

You might think that Bael has some amazing abilities.

>>83

With an incredibly sturdy sword and amazing mobility, I’ll keep dodging and striking my opponent until they die.

If I could have taken out the bearded old man with the Galaxy Cannon, I could have still turned things around somehow.

The mercenaries are the main focus, but they were also trying to do other businesses like farming, and even if Takaki leaves the group, they can still manage. After a defeat, the members have connections that allow them to reset their identities and find work, so it feels like the only part that is forced is the dying.

>>86

Dying in defiance of the system is the yakuza’s aesthetic.

The impression of whether you watched the whole thing at once or in real-time changes, and it seems like Iron-Blooded Orphans might change quite a bit too.

>>87

When I’m watching in real-time, it’s spaced out by a week, so my memory is pretty fuzzy, and I basically don’t review.

>>89

Well, basically there are more people who prefer real-time, so the evaluation standards are based on that.

At the point of human debris, it’s already pretty hopeless, and the fact that a considerable number of people are being missed and allowed to live a decent life is the ultimate achievement, right?

>>88

Well, there were many better scoring points…

Eventually, there are those left behind who have made enough impact to move history, like a gang of boy soldiers who will only die in the wild.

Well, the crescent moon that has been made pregnant by ejaculation inside is still amazing in the end…

I think the position at the beginning of the second season was the most exciting.

It’s not like we’re a group that only wants to fight! There were connections related to Coudelia, so there were plenty of good timing opportunities…

When someone says something like “Agaris were everywhere, weren’t they?”

It’s like saying, “Why are we at war? We could just give the First Gundam the autonomy of Side 3.”

>>98

No…?

>>98

That’s such an unbelievable story.

Why does it become such an unbelievable story that I would throw everything away and become an ordinary person…?

>>103

I can’t stop.

Mika’s eyes are saying that.

>>103

Orga himself underestimated that those guys wouldn’t be able to find work in the ordinary world once the Teikadan was gone.

In reality, most of them were people who could make a proper effort to adapt to regular jobs.

>>98

It would be different if you had claimed to be the king of Mars from the beginning and waged war against Gjallarhorn, but that’s not the case…

It’s fine to sell McGillis because he’s useless anyway.

I don’t understand the timing of selling; why did we mess things up and get caught in a losing battle, only to later have this conversation after dealing with it with a single punch?

Why did you bet everything on Mackie?

>>100

I was invited because it’s a job that pays a lot and goes well on the first try.

I was told that it was no good and that I shouldn’t place additional orders, but I only went along with it because I was foolish…

Because I am a selfless fool.

>>101

I’m saying I’m not used to it!

If the meat uncle had been hit by Dainsleif, would the situation have changed?

The feeling of script convenience when allowing the monkey to interfere over there was intense.

>>105

Personally, it seemed more convenient that Mika ended up causing a major wreck but was chattering away and missed the chance to kill.

>>107

In other words, aren’t both convenient for you?

>>105

Even if the ending hasn’t changed, I think the feeling of those waiting might be somewhat different.

It’s all no good from there anymore.

It was already no good from before, but it’s like I dealt the final blow.

I only have the impression that Mika struggles endlessly against slightly stronger opponents.

It was unfortunate that we encountered Hashmal at the mining site, but we managed to handle it. I should have just followed McGillis and dug up Half Metal instead.

Even after killing half of humanity and dropping colonies to Earth.

I won’t just give away the autonomy of Side 3…

I’ll stop here because it’s getting off-topic.

When we were winning, it was mostly due to connections and groundwork being done.

I failed because I tried to rise to the top as quickly as possible through violence without understanding the situation.

I tried to go somewhere, but I couldn’t go anywhere.

It’s a story where it wasn’t allowed to just give up and walk away as a half-baked delinquent turning into a yakuza.

That said, even though I killed them all, there was a lack of satisfying parts that allowed me to feel refreshed.

>>117

As the word “catharsis” suggests, feeling interest in tales where nothing goes right is relatively common, so it’s better not to generalize your opinion.

>>117

That’s not it either.

For example, even with the same Gundam, the fact that a one-word conversation could lead to a happy ending in “Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket” is considered a masterpiece.

The depiction is simply garbage.

Mackie is really strong, and if he had fought Gaelio in the first season, he might have had a chance to take out the Arianrod fleet all by himself at the end!

Well, I lost because I was alive…

Even though Naze’s brother is being targeted by his uncle, it’s not good that he hasn’t made allies in Teiwaz.

I understand that even though the ending is the same, you wanted it to be a bit cleaner.

If it were compressed down to about episode 13 and ended in total annihilation, it would just be one of those Gundams you sometimes get.

Gather at Bael’s place! Seriously, no one came.

>>125

I guess I rode it, huh?

It wasn’t everyone, just a few.

People who can no longer retract their judgment that it’s right to hit something deemed okay are no different from the Tekkadan.

Even if Olga and Maki win, it would still lead to a troublesome situation…

You don’t have the qualities of a king of Mars, Olga…

They’re headed for destruction, but since I can’t stop them, I was told by Meribitt and Yukinojo back in the first season to at least support them.

If I don’t say it’s personal, it becomes a generalization, huh?

Be careful.

I think 4 cours was too long for this ending.

It’s disappointing that after the happy ending in the second season following the destructive ending, the Iron-Blooded Orphans ended up with a final destructive and bad ending.

If I were asked how I could have done better, I would be at a loss.

Season 2 has a lot of things that feel like they’ve ended with conflicts on Earth and Jasray, but it seems like nothing has really been gained in terms of what was lost…!

From the moment the Duel Uncle got involved without laying the groundwork around him, he was already doomed.

I wonder if it would have been a bit better if I hadn’t killed them and just let them go.

>>135

Even if Second Lieutenant Crank survives, he will likely face unavoidable punishment for disobeying orders, and in the end, Ain will probably hold a grudge, so it’s probably impossible.

Before the start of the second phase, when there was a certain amount of earnings and savings, instead of thinking about expanding the business, I quickly sold off various things and disbanded.

>>136

I was trying to be a support for people in similar circumstances, so ideologically it was impossible.

>>140

I can’t help but say that it’s not only arrogant but also lacks enough thought.

>>151

Since we won our position while sacrificing many members in the first season, it would be unreasonable to just share it among the survivors and call it a day! It’s true that we are inexperienced, but…

What is it that the ending of the first season is just about delivering a grandfather who was expelled for corruption to get him re-elected… I thought that, but I convinced myself at the time that he might not actually be a bad politician and just got falsely accused of corruption.

After watching the second season, I definitely thought this old man is corrupt…

I thought about hiring a teacher to study, but those guys basically looked down on adults, so it would be impossible.

>>138

Because I was dead protecting the slow adults at the Earth branch, I take combat seriously.

>>138

I feel like I was mocking someone in the family who acted like a treasurer.

In the end, I was helped by that person.

>>145

The one who was mocking you was someone else.

The viewers were also deceived by Macky.

It’s surprising that it’s revealed in the final episode that the protagonist and their partner are seeing different things.

>>142

What are you talking about…?

>>143

I don’t want to criticize from the sidelines, but I do wonder where Mika’s rise came from.

I understand that I’ll follow Olga as long as she moves forward… but still.

>>152

Olga had the look of asking Mika what he would do next… I thought that even if he died, he would keep going, but it seems that Mika had already reached that point when he died… I found that concerning.

The members are excellent as bodyguards.

Since MS can also be moved, it’s difficult to use the method of forcibly suppressing with military power.

>>144

You couldn’t protect the leader!

>>148

It can’t be helped; it’s the leader’s job to protect the members.

>>149

It’s a calm statement that’s a bit absurd, but I like it because it’s so typical of Orga.

I used to think that Makki was outstanding in his first term, but when I watched it again, I realized he had no supporting members at all and was completely overwhelmed by having to be on site, follow up, and fight.

>>150

What are we going to do if the Tekkadan loses? It’s full of plans like that.

Since Mika is watching, I can’t stop, which is kind of like paranoia.

>>154

Is it really okay for best friends to not trust each other at all?

>>162

That’s a place that’s often mentioned, although it may be misleading.

I wanted them to delve a little more specifically into the past of the two of them.

Dad is too strong.

It’s too harsh to just say that if there are enemies because of the last ride’s actions, you can just assassinate them.

Is it correct to interpret that the series of events leading up to “Don’t stop!” shows that the professional fighters of the Teikadan were cornered and completely let their guard down?

>>158

From the perspective of the Tekkadan members, they thought they were the heroes of Kruese and never expected to be shot in the middle of town.

No matter how many times I see the part where Olga protects Ride, I still don’t understand what it means.

Why are you sitting down? You’re the one who keeps getting hit on purpose.

Why are you hugging me? If you do that, we’ll die together. Luckily, nothing penetrated my torso, so I was unharmed.

Even if you’re going to take cover behind a wall, it’s common to lie down together and have yourself in front.

>>161

At that time, the headquarters was completely surrounded, and they probably hadn’t slept much, I guess.

It felt tough because it seemed like all the characters’ actions were just aligning with the story’s convenience.

If someone says, “Well, it’s a work of fiction, so that’s only natural,” then I guess that’s true.

Still, I wish they would stop frequently bringing up hitmen and dyneslaves.

>>168

I often feel that way about works I couldn’t get into.

Honestly, I think it’s better not to get involved in discussions about such works.

>>172

It’s from the side, but Gundam is a brand, so completely ignoring it would be impossible.

I don’t think it’s a problem to say that this place just doesn’t suit me, as I’m not really causing any trouble.

I understand that a leader feels they must do something because their subordinate looks at them with the question, “What will you do next?”

The problem is that there were so many things that made it difficult to say let’s stop here.

I think it’s a pretty good outcome since in the end, we managed to send important people into the political world while leaving a considerable number behind.

Mika will follow Olga anywhere she goes, personally, I’m interested in agriculture.

Orga thought, “That look in Mika’s eyes… I can’t just stop!”

So… if I had conveyed that the communication had failed or that it was the end around here, it wouldn’t have led to such devastation…

As a result of the young leader and his right-hand man thinking too much of each other, they’re totally out of sync!!! This is quite a common trope in yakuza stories.

I could understand up until Olga didn’t stop her feet.

When you started spouting off about how the lives of the team members aren’t just chips, I wanted to tell you to remember what you said in the final episode of the first season.

It’s not that Olga’s thoughts drastically changed from the end of Season 1 to the end of Season 2.

>>173

No, the premise is different.

In the first term, I had no choice but to bet on the life chip, so I just said to place your bets on me! My wish for the members not to die has never changed.

People say it’s inevitable because they’re yakuza, but it’s not like they’re that much of yakuza. First of all, the law enforcement is pretty terrible, so there’s no sense of karma either.

>>174

As Orga himself said, Tekkadan has been doing things piecemeal, so if we lose, we have no choice but to suffer and die.

The point that McGillis and Orga couldn’t fully rely on others or seek advice is similar in their defeat.

It’s not really about karma or retribution.

The attitude of standing against a powerful regime gives people courage, and that will gets passed down, gradually changing the world.

Orga and Mika have died, but since they elevated Tekkadan from the Yakuza to even a security company, that’s a victory, right?

>>178

The surviving members were able to perform normally, so it wasn’t really a failure after all.

>>181

It seems like quite a win when looking at the numbers, but I don’t think this was a matter of just taking care of that.

Even now, there are people who say things like, “The Tekka Dan really lost terribly and has nothing left, have you even watched the anime?”

>>181

I think that could have been done a bit faster if you had finished it that way…

When I hear that they didn’t like losing, I think that’s a bit different from the story.

I can understand why you didn’t like that McGillis was foolish.

Please forgive the others with the heads of those who were using their brains and Gundams.

That’s a conversation, isn’t it?

During the first phase, it was a situation where I had no choice but to keep winning at gambling, so it’s understandable to take risks.

In the second season, there were plenty of chances to stop, but in the end, all of them were wasted.

The members basically left everything to those above them and had no intention of learning during the times they had the luxury to do so.

The adults were making fun of the dispatched accountant, so of course, they would be betrayed.

Even if they couldn’t do 72 machines, I was hoping to see all the Gundams from the Seven Stars in the anime, so that’s a disappointment.

>>187

I was really excited thinking that a super Gundam would come out, especially with Bael leading the way.

Wasn’t it surprisingly not that way in the side story?

When Olga tries to stop, she says, “You wouldn’t say something like that!”

It’s terrible that it’s not just Mika who puts pressure on me.

Are you a worthless Mikawa samurai?