
Get out. I don’t need you anymore. The one who picked up the abandoned enchanter by their comrades… ©Aneko Yusagi, Tokura Kanaka / Futabasha
I think it’s easier to create an impactful development right from the start.
It’s an easy feel-good type, so it doesn’t matter how much there is.
It’s a category where you start in a new field with a certain level of experience.
Once the Zamaa is over, it’s just leftover scraps.
It’s completely not suited for long-term, though…
>>4
Well, there may be trends in the beginning phases, but if you can’t develop the story after that, it’s just following the crowd, and that’s always the same…
If anything, it goes back to Adam and Eve.
>>5
Why?!
If you’re Japanese, use Susanoo as an example!!!!!!!
>>6
What does that mean?
>>7
The oldest banishment system in Japan is Susanoo.
What respects that is trying to mess with the person who is being edited in the jar.
Merit → Unjust exile → Acquire a slave heroine → Gather with outcast geniuses → Recognized by someone of status → Serves them right
At this point, the template is almost complete.
>>6
That guy has done so much bad stuff that there’s more than enough justification for his exile…
>>8
I brought a skinned horse to big sister’s workplace! Super! Exciting!
It feels somewhat strange how the side that is doing the expelling is portrayed as thoroughly arrogant and clumsy.
Like my former students now
>>10
In this kind of situation, you absolutely must not write the protagonist as being at fault, so you have to make the opponent look like a complete fool.
>>13
I understand, but…
I sometimes wonder why I was even part of that terrible party until that day.
>>13
I think it’s okay if the protagonist is an asshole.
It would be troublesome if they are bad people who can’t fit into society.
>>27
Of course, there are things like that too.
Well, there are just not many people I can empathize with.
>>33
You shouldn’t make it seem like the protagonist is at fault.
>>37
I don’t need the amateur rules.
>>37
A protagonist without flaws is certainly not appealing.
>>46
Is this your first time on Narou? Relax.
If it’s a flaw, it must not be something that isn’t a flaw; otherwise, readers won’t stick around.
>>57
Are you a novice?
It’s basically impossible for a novice writer to adeptly portray flaws that aren’t actually flaws.
>>27
I have precognitive abilities, so I thought it might be necessary to show that this is the original flow.
>>10
I want the demeanor of a boss.
>>10
Well, that’s just the role, so there’s no additional seasoning beyond that.
It probably would be a hassle to come up with a proper reason worthy of banishment.
From the reader’s perspective, there is the advantage of being able to skip the protagonist’s part.
I stopped reading it, but towards the end, I was only reading the “serves you right” parts.
Susanoo continued to cry, wanting to see his mother, while stepping on his father’s huge landmine, and that was the reason for his initial banishment, so I hope you can forgive him.
I feel like I’m enjoying a promise similar to Mito Komon.
>>18
It’s a big joke, right?
It’s something like a themed illustration that we often do here.
If you make this the center of the conversation, it will inevitably lead to an end.
1:00
Making the leader a villain like Burn-sama…
>>22
Shall we make Crocodine the main character?
>>40
The formidable enemy Groisan in the early stages.
>>40
It’s not like it’s “That traitor, who betrayed us!” but rather, to be associated with the beast king Crocodine… that just shows how much character he has.
The aftermath of the thread image is too tragic…
Although it is called “sukatto-kei,” it is generally grim and does not feel refreshing.
>>24
First of all, it’s a failure from the moment you are stripped of everything and banished…
“Defeating my husband and mother-in-law! No way, don’t marry someone like that!”
In Greek mythology, there is also Hephaestus.
The Epic of Gilgamesh, which was inscribed on clay tablets 5000 years ago.
It starts with Gilgamesh-kun messing up and being exiled from his hometown.
I have a memory that Yamato Takeru was someone who would naturally die a miserable death…
>>31
Response from Ōyamatsumi no Mikoto
Susanoo was banished and became great! It’s not like that kind of ending. Hey, ugly of the present world! Get rid of my lice! Such sneaky harassment happens.
Mythology is written from the perspective of the gods, so in modern times, it feels even more incompatible with humans.
Susanoo’s violent behavior is simply a result of being banished by his father for crying and not working because he wanted to see his mother.
Well, Susanoo is not an exile, but rather a rebellious one.
If it’s said that both genres can coexist, then that’s true.
There are countless genres and settings these days, not limited to just exile.
When an exile story ends, it loses momentum, and even if it’s prolonged, it feels unpleasant, making it seem difficult to handle.
It’s not often that the side being expelled is completely innocent…
Usually, it’s at a level where you wonder if the community is just sleeping, right?
If the theme is to complete revenge against the former party through exile, then it can still be watched.
When you start a slow life, it often ends up in confusion.
>>47
Isn’t there quite a bit of a theme of revenge?
>>47
It was interesting that the one who wanted to live freely in the royal capital came to a conclusion…
In the narou world, buffers are being underestimated too much.
>>49
It’s the same even if it’s not Narou.
>>51
The attacker looks down on both the tank and the healer, as well as the buffer…
>>59
Online games right after the service launch are also filled with DPS…
>>49
In reality, it’s not a world where capable people are well-treated just because they are essential within the company.
>>56
It’s great, isn’t it, when an outsider’s heir takes over the company and kicks out all the veterans!
…No, that’s not good. People are dying.
>>63
Rude.
Not only is this not the time for a successor, but they are also snatching up external management executives left and right, leading to ruin.
>>49
When I was a kid, I progressed without using buffs, debuffs, or status ailments either…
Is this the granting of cheese?
Seeing the exile for such a foolish reason makes me think that there must have been some problem on the protagonist’s side as well.
It’s scary that there are so many problems on the protagonist’s side, even though the protagonist is supposed to be the pitiful one who was exiled.
In the document, it says something like “In modern high school literature, there can’t be popular honor students, right?”
It seems that there is a trend of guys who enjoy messing with their female childhood friends.
That’s why villainous lady stories, where the engagement is broken off and a perfect man appears to quickly resolve everything, are popular in the rankings.
Well, things that get animated tend to be long-running.
The character in the thread also had issues with the protagonist’s personality.
That being said, they were an indispensable asset for the strategy.
Is the response that is being continuously quoted for summarization?
Alright!
Since I’m going to be expelled, I thought it would be better not to say anything, so I completely removed all the buffs I had placed!
>>62
In the first place, having a buffer without a time limit is abnormal…
Works of this type inevitably bring the author’s real circumstances to mind, so they just don’t work for me.
>>65
That’s your ESP disease…
>>65
Is the creator of the thread image undergoing brain modification in real life and becoming a junkie…?
>>74
Huh!?
>>85
The image shows a battle junkie who has removed the limits of their brain and is forgetting the faces and memories of acquaintances.
In reality, in a black company, they will use you up until you break for a low salary, so there isn’t much of a banishment.
>>70
There was someone who quit and ran away, but ended up being brought back and killed…
Vim is literally a dangerous guy with a fried brain, so it can’t be helped…
>>71
Rather than just the character’s downfall, the main focus is on the abnormality of the protagonist’s personality.
A protagonist who seems to have been understandably exiled after going through a cycle has also appeared.
>>72
It’s good, isn’t it? A rain that fully embodies goodness.
>>73
(Which rain…?)
I believe that the diversity of the customer base is our strength.
Hey! What’s going on with ○○?
Nobody’s doing it because the one who was expelled was doing it!
I hate this development so much.
>>76
Huh…? Is it true that banishment stories are actually realistic works??
It’s unreasonable to be treated as incompetent when I’m defusing traps and scouting at the same time.
There was also an expulsion in the old game I played, “Kuso Jiko.”
The leader fell in love with the protagonist, so they couldn’t take them to defeat the Demon King, which led to their exile.
The protagonist conspired with the demon king to turn the leader into a monster girl for revenge, but then the leader, having become bold, ended up reverse-raping the protagonist.
>>82
This is what I want.
>>84
However, those things will require some time spent on expulsion background, so they’ll end up being involved in the main story.
The details of the ban are irrelevant, and the main focus of the work becomes a bit more careless afterwards.
I’ve seen a pattern where the former adventurer protagonist gets expelled while doing unrelated work, and it’s revealed that they have a past of retiring from being an adventurer.
The treatment of exile is now just a popular element, and its usage is various.
The straightforwardness of “Let’s expel them because expulsion is in vogue!” in the story.
Isn’t there already something like ◯◯ that the anonymous person is talking about?
There is usually a reverse version of something that already exists.
So, not being well-received means exactly that.
>>87
It’s just a one-off gag that truly goes against the trend, so there’s no way to continue it.
Once you expel the troublesome beginner class—and it’s good that the expeller is honest about it.
Those who have been exiled and are no longer nobles can just live as they please.
It’s not just the villainous lady.
It’s inevitable because that genre has been established.
Speaking of which, the Trump administration is going through something similar and struggling.
>>94
“Hey, what’s going on with the nuclear management and administration?”
“The leader banished you, right!”
>>94
This guy has been saying for a long time that he would remove those who are a nuisance, and when he actually takes power and eliminates them, terrible things happen all over the world.
I realized that something was absolutely necessary before the elimination, but since I incited the public over it, I had no choice but to eliminate it, and now I’m holding my head in despair.
Huh? The level of cruelty of “Zamaa” is higher than I expected…
>>96
The depiction of the fallen and tormented exile party is more vivid than that of the protagonist…
>>102
Harsh depiction of bullying!
You’re oddly detailed, huh…?
>>106
I won’t look at specific examples…
>>96
There are still many that are somewhat better if they’re aimed at men.
For women, it’s a world of things like glass slippers that even children can burn, and as the age increases from there…
In reality, there are various reasons for expulsion, but the kind of person who creates a thread like this can’t possibly know that.
>>97
No need for exile otaku appeals either.
>>115
Do not pride yourself on your ignorance.
It’s often serialized in MAGAPOKE, but there are many that have really similar introductions, which is interesting in a way.
Despite the title of “My Happy Marriage,” it takes seven volumes to overcome hardships and nurture love until marriage.
>>100
If that’s the title, then it would rather be that once you get married, it’s all over…
However, Volume 7 is a bit long.
I occasionally read Narou, but I avoid the “zamaa” type by checking reviews beforehand, so I don’t really know what it’s like…
>>101
Since everything exists and is constantly changing, there isn’t an exact “like this.”
The guy who spoke Tsugaru dialect was expelled in an extremely proper way, and I laughed.
You’ve been together for five years, so make an effort to use a common language!
>>103
Now, even in Aomori, it’s basically a common language, just with a strange intonation.
I wonder if depicting the protagonist with a pathetic appearance at the thread image level will make it popular.
But I wonder if it’s popular since there are ads for it.
>>104
It’s a story about the protagonist quitting being human and becoming lonely…
>>104
It’s not that I’m humble; I’m just a madman.
>>110
I tried my best to compromise! Ah, I feel like I’m going to throw up…
>>104
The protagonist was just able to maintain a social life because being kicked out of the crazy party felt like a nice constraint.
There are many.
There is almost no popularity.
>>111
Even though it has been adapted into an anime…?
I see, America is currently experiencing an expulsion boom that can no longer be dismissed as unrealistic…
>>114
It’s not a trend or anything, it’s just commonplace…
I was looking at the image, and in the latest chapter, I was shocked to see that there was such a height difference between Vim-kun and the captain!
The expulsion part is really just a starting point, and it’s pretty interesting because it wanders on the brink of whether to fall or not.
The protagonist was an utterly unlikable piece of trash, and it wasn’t interesting at all.
But the thread image looks submissive and just ran away…
Well, the really bad one is Heide Marie…
I thought it was a terrible development to suddenly reveal the contract conditions later.
>>128
I’m reading it, but more than that, the protagonist is quite self-deprecating and also turns into a killer.
I can’t feel any goodwill towards something that looks like a dark Subaru…
I’m a samurai who prefers a peaceful parting and reaching heights together rather than being banished in disgrace.
>>129
Did something happen? Oh right, it was One Piece.
>>133
Usopp, get off the ship already!
>>129
I like the development where someone lends a hand when things become impossible.
>>129
I really like the story where the protagonist, who was exiled due to lack of ability, becomes a lord and continues to interact and cooperate with the hero and their party.
>>143
On the contrary, it’s sometimes the case that someone is too skilled and their level doesn’t match the party, which means it won’t be beneficial for either the party or that person if things stay as they are…
Naturally, in such cases, it’s often that they part ways after discussing and coming to a mutual understanding, rather than being exiled.
>>154
It feels similar to a story where no one capable can take someone exceptional in a mountain climbing circle…
If I adjust to those around me, the content becomes too easy for the skilled, and if I adapt to the skilled, those around me might struggle.
>>129
I want us to confront each other’s hatred and burdens even more!
Layoffs in America often have pretty unreasonable reasons behind them…
Well, they’re the kind of people who go on adventures…
In the U.S., many institutions are completely replaced with each change of administration, so it’s a weak topic for discussion.
Anonymous
You are banned from the bulletin board.
>>135
It feels like reclaiming a name.
Thread assignment has a higher possibility of being animated than giving a chi.
>>137
It looks like it’s about to reach 2 million copies soon…
The granting magician accidentally defeated the boss, so they got exiled!
I have a memory of seeing an advertisement like that.
>>138
Isn’t that the thread image?
After all, I have to think about managing the migratory bird rice bowl shop after being expelled…
It’s too late to regret now! It will just end there.
Those who want to talk about politics here are probably being excluded from various places.
In Japan, it can’t be easily cut.
If I had carelessly not done it, everyone would have died…
The ease of falling in adventurer rank…
>>153
If you don’t earn a certain amount of points constantly, it feels like you’re too intolerant of failures or drops, giving off a strong black company vibe.
After a bit of triumph, it gives off a fluffy vibe and gradually fades away.
>>155
Well, it’s the main content.
Once it’s over, there’s nothing left to do.
>>155
Well, most of it has nothing to do with the popularity declining or not being popular in the first place…
There are also cases where the ex-leader of the expelled PT joins forces with the protagonist PT that expelled them, so it’s truly diverse.
Is thread attribution different from thread creation?
What happens when a thread is assigned?
It’s just a bunch of crap threads, and it doesn’t seem like it will lead to anything good.
Is the most famous Narou work related to banishment still “The Shield”?
The intelligence of the characters was so low and absurd that I couldn’t relate to it.
They say they’re going to take revenge, but when you think about it, it’s actually just pluses after being exiled.
Sometimes the former party members fall to darkness and end up facing the protagonist, leading to a conclusion, but it just gets abruptly canceled and ends like that…
I guess it’s only natural to be expelled in a pattern like this.
I feel like it’s mostly leaning towards a gag.
After being exiled, he becomes a revengeful cuckold…
I expelled you because you seemed like you were going to die from overwork.
The pattern of getting to know the world after being exiled tends to last quite a while.
The expelled party is the final boss, so there’s no need to read anymore.
>>166
I understand, but it makes me wonder what you’ve been doing until now.
The way I’m rolling out of my old nest is too fast…
Even if I’m exiled, I’ll quickly pick up a beautiful girl and turn her into a slave, and if I get reincarnated as a non-human monster, I’ll immediately become humanoid.
My image
Similar things won’t continue unless they’re quite unique or well-done.
Is there an example of something whose popularity drops after it finishes?
>>172
It feels like the conversation is getting sidetracked after achieving the goal.
>>172
Basically, many people decide whether to stop following a work when the story has reached a certain point.
Not just with zamaa, but also with the first boss in battles, romance, and domestic affairs.
>>172
Many readers want to easily read just the refreshing parts.
>>172
It’s faster to look for works that maintained their popularity and finished strong after their peak.
If the revenge development was well-received, then I need to find the next target for revenge. It’s a cycle of having to keep producing it, and if I go for a conventional development, the revenge aspect gets in the way, so I think there’s a flaw in the genre itself.
>>174
In the first place, it’s not a genre, it’s just a gimmick, so you can handle it however you like.
Some people consider it a different genre depending on the presence or absence of that gimmick.
>>184
Don’t give empty replies, know-it-all.
>>185
Where did I seem to be pretending to know?
I think almost all of the expulsion-themed works that have been adapted into anime can be cited as examples.
>>180
That’s rough.
There are examples where I wonder if they don’t even understand that, but on second thought, in another world, I can’t be sure if they can receive proper schooling or education, and they might even be unsure about letters, so in a way, it might be correct.
>>181
Buff types can be felt, so it’s hard to understand the difference during regular times.
It’s more like a “what a shame” development after the romantic comedy has ended with the heroine, leaving nothing to do.
>>182
Ah, that’s pretty much how it is.
>>182
If that’s the case, you’re doing it properly, so isn’t there no problem?
I am achieving my goals.
>>192
That’s right?
The decline in popularity ultimately comes down to the skill of the writer.
I will live a slow life now that I’ve been exiled.
I don’t remember seeing a case of a slow life… rather, slow life types don’t actually live a slow life.
It’s not uncommon for the exile part to be merely a starting point that drives the story, and I think it’s definitely an exaggeration to say that the development becomes fixed.
In stories aimed at women about being banished, there are often developments where the character responds to “You are banished!” or “The engagement is broken!” with a nonchalant “Is that so? 😄” while actually not being affected and enjoying their freedom! This seems to happen way too often.
That being said, I thought it was definitely impressive how the “got what was coming” aspect was achieved, considering the target audience is just as expected.
>>190
Huh? Isn’t the typical way to break off a engagement by punching everyone who was there?
>>190
There are patterns for both men and women, so it depends on the work…
All that’s left is to just live a slow life.