
Oda Nobunaga, Tokugawa Ieyasu, the people who were called the Three Great Heroes – Toyotomi Hideyoshi. They gradually took away weapons and built an era of peace. In this time of peace, they appointed governors in autonomous cities, conducted sword hunts, diminished the manors of temples and shrines, and issued the Codes of the Samurai. Even the heroes of the Warring States achieved this together as three.
Although it is said to be “Tenka Mochi,” in reality, Ieyasu didn’t have time to eat mochi.
>>1
I was eating tempura…
I really think sword hunting and Taiko land surveys are great achievements.
Indeed, violence.
Violence solves everything.
Everyone worked hard until they rolled their eyes back…
In the original work, the troublesome nature of the local people from this era is portrayed with deep resentment, which makes the three historical figures even more impressive.
Because there are temple and shrine lands, the power of the warrior monks and shrines is strong…
I think only Tokugawa Iemitsu could eat the famous rice cake with relative ease.
People often criticize monks for being armed, but…
In a doomsday scenario where governing power and security organizations have collapsed, it’s only natural for people to arm themselves for protection. As it has become necessary for everyone, including farmers and merchants, to engage in self-help, the situation has led to a time when everyone has become a militia, which is what the Sengoku period represents.
Ieyasu just happened to take a seat at the end, as Nobunaga and Hideyoshi had mostly finished things.
Maintaining the position to sit at the end was the most impressive.
I believe that it was undoubtedly Tokugawa’s achievement that led to the solid establishment of positions afterwards.
It seems like back then they were saying things like “Let’s take over the world even if it means becoming a vassal of Date or Spain.”
>>10
But isn’t this thought similar to the Satsuma and Choshu of the late Edo period, who gave up on sonno joi and instead tried to utilize foreign powers?
>>18
If we can’t prepare a winning force domestically, we have no choice but to bring it in from abroad…
I think it will take a huge amount of labor costs and time.
I wonder why the Taikō land survey was conducted.
I feel that the idea of trying to reach every corner of Japan is at a level of advancement that is out of sync with the times.
>>11
Rather, it was necessary in order to collect taxes properly.
It takes time and labor costs, but properly paying this amount of tax serves as proof.
>>12
It clearly shows that it is under control both nominally and practically.
In other words, to clearly indicate that means there should be considerable backlash, and to have suppressed that is amazing.
If you want to create a world of samurai, you must completely take away military power from everyone who is not a samurai.
>>13
When the world is peaceful, if we take away the warriors’ power, it will be secure!
Around here, it took about 60 years for the three of us to do it, which is why Japan is the way it is now.
It seems that the resistance is likely to be strong because it’s necessary for self-defense, but the sword hunt.
>>16
Only flashing military power that cannot defend itself to take away!
>>20
Well, because of that, the Toyotomi regime was an era far from peace, with wars breaking out somewhere every year…
>>16
I was able to unify the country.
If you resist the sword hunt when there are no external enemies, they will come at you with full force to eradicate you.
There’s no way we can maintain peace for nearly 300 years just by eating rice cakes…
America should take a cue.
It’s amazing that we had such excellent subordinates who went out to do the land survey and measure everything precisely.
It was significant that there was Ishida Mitsunari, a work machine unaffected by bribes.
I truly believe that the Taiko land survey is a great achievement.
Because the Tokugawa could only maintain the clan system, that’s why clans like Kyukou Ichimin arose.
At Sekigahara, he gets criticized harshly, but it makes you think that if he hadn’t been there before that, the Toyotomi rule probably wouldn’t have lasted.
Also, what’s amazing about the Taiko land survey is that it also serves as a system for standardizing units.
From the ruler’s perspective, standardizing the unit of measurement is necessary for governance and can also improve efficiency.
In modern terms, it’s like how inches and pounds are slightly different in this era across all regions, making it easy to mislead.
>>31
The theory of unification of units has already been rejected.
Oh, is that so?
The textbooks from my time had that included, but is it different now?
4a Measuring units of the Hideyoshi era
Area: 6 shaku 3 sun square (approximately 191 cm square) = 1 step (3.6 m²)
30 steps = 1 und
10 und = 1 dan (反)
10 dan = 1 cho
Volume:
10 go = 1 sho (approximately 1.8 liters)
10 sho = 1 to (4 to = 1 bail)
10 to = 1 koku
Weight:
1 steel coin = 1 momme (approximately 3.75 g)
1,000 momme = 1 kan (3.75 kg)
Measuring cup:
4-4 Kyoto masu
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The masu, which had previously varied by region and use, was standardized in Kyoto, leading to the origin of the current 1 sho masu.
4-3 Survey measuring unit
What weight is the unit of weight “momme” originally based on?
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>>33
I also had this textbook.
How nostalgic!
I suppose we can consider Ieyasu’s later years as a reward for a job well done.
I struggled when I was young…
>>34
If we say that, Nobunaga and Hideyoshi also went through considerable hardships…
>>34
Remaining life (began to deteriorate in health immediately after the Battle of Osaka and died about a year later)
Were there places that had units by regional divisions before?
I’ve heard that there were warlords who used to implement things like the free market and free stalls.
>>37
It’s a hexagon.
There are theories that suggest Hideyoshi came from a very lowly origin, to the point that his background is uncertain.
It takes quite a while to roll into the Oda family and reach the starting point…
Hideyoshi’s face is scary.
Ieyasu was great for significantly weakening the imperial family’s power.
The Taiko land survey simply does not have enough time.
Is it okay that we can no longer resist the violence of the state because our firearms have been taken away?
>>43
Don’t compare me to those who built the country through pioneering.
>>43
If there is no more fighting, I can focus on farming…
The sword hunt is not about disarmament, but rather to clarify the class system.
I thought they were quite far apart in age, taking a lot of time, but it turns out they’re relatively the same age…
In America, you can still possess guns… while otters are being taken away…
>>48
It is often misunderstood, but the common people in the Edo period could normally carry a short sword for self-defense.
The sword hunt is, after all, for the purpose of class control.
>>70
It was like “full-auto guns are no good.”
Self-help… what a wonderfully resonant phrase!
First of all, Ieyasu personally was trying hard to preserve the Toyotomi.
But will this Hidetada allow it!?
In the game set during the late Edo period that I recently played, many people were carrying swords, but was it really that strict?
>>51
It’s not that knives themselves are banned.
>>51
I think it’s probably ronin, but during the Edo period, there were rather too many samurai, and it became a problem.
>>51
In the late Edo period, there were more samurai than townspeople.
It’s already falling apart in various ways.
>>105
Although various formalities have collapsed, the practical systems and productivity of society have greatly improved.
>>105
If samurai are civil servants, it seems likely to collapse due to tax expenditures.
It seems they sold or lent out rice for income, but it looks like the market might be oversaturated with rice.
While it’s called sword hunting, the main items being collected are guns and spears.
>>54
Really? I feel like I’ve heard that the collection other than the sword was rather sloppy.
It seems that in the Kinki region, guns were strictly regulated to prevent assassination, but in other regions, the regulations were lax.
The sword hunt was originally issued as a punitive measure for subdued Kyushu and temples, so it naturally appears punitive.
The interpretation that the enacted law fundamentally applies nationwide was later changed, resulting in the scope expanding nationwide.
During the Edo period and the late Edo period, the samurai…
Therefore, in this work, the samurai are dispatched to support the Jurchen tribe fighting in Manchuria or for the development of Taiwan and Southeast Asia.
I’ve heard that the early Edo period had quite a warlike atmosphere.
When I visit various historical places, I often think that most of what remains was accomplished by Hideyoshi…
>>58
Is this guy really from the peasant class? Doesn’t he have noble blood?
>>67
It really feels like a person from the field.
It feels like a professional in architecture and urban planning… Even though the regime changed and the Tokugawa shogunate lasted for 300 years, most of the urban planning done by Hideyoshi still remains to this day.
It is significant that we were able to establish a system that does not require reconsideration of rearmament afterward.
Is it an era where veterans are just hanging around with nothing to do?
There must have been many Bokkemon until around the Amakusa Shimabara Rebellion, right?
I put the manager on the bulletin board.
Hunting for nameless ones.
Reduce the scale of mackerel.
The terms have been issued.
>>62
The bulletin board can be abolished.
After that, in the two Korean expeditions, those who were motivated were the first to die.
The sword, which also has ornamental significance, was probably a compromise point of being safe.
Up to the time of Iemitsu and Tsunayoshi, the values were still like those in the Sengoku period.
>>65
Although Tsunayoshi is ridiculed, I can’t help but think that you have to operate at that level, right?
It was good that many ronin who could not return to farming after the Siege of Osaka and the Shimabara Rebellion were dealt with.
During the Bakumatsu period, common people could normally possess things like navy rifles or dragoons.
There are documents left saying something like “We’re lacking swords to send to the center, so put in more effort to collect them!”
I feel like I heard that there isn’t much of that regarding spears and guns, but perhaps I was mistaken.
>>72
No, it’s correct.
In fact, guns were also used as measures against animal damage, so it was common for the farmers in the domain to have more guns than the lord.
However, due to strict management, permission was required for use.
If you don’t govern seriously, even a feudal lord could end up being executed, and it’s impressive that this actually happened.
>>76
Matsukura’s execution by beheading is rather an unprecedented event.
Miraculously, the baton pass went smoothly.
>>78
According to records from Westerners, it seems that at the time, the Japanese believed that once Hideyoshi died, they would return to an era of turmoil characteristic of Japan.
“Don’t carry around weapons that are too powerful; even though you’re not a samurai, it doesn’t mean we took away all long weapons and firearms just because of the sword hunt.”
Talented people exist in various places, and although there were vague plans, nothing can be done when there is ongoing conflict.
What can be done in the Toyotomi administration, like urban planning, is likely related to that.
Hideyoshi had incredible talent for both warfare and ruling the world, so why did it turn out that way?
>>83
The theory that ancient samurai warlords went crazy mostly due to toothaches.
>>83
It’s the limit of a system that relies entirely on one top person.
It was not able to establish an authority and legitimacy strong enough to survive regardless of the capabilities of the second generation and beyond.
>>83
It boils down to the fact that I couldn’t pass it on to the successor.
That’s really amazing…
Sankin-koutai!
>>84
Somehow the sankin route was bustling, and it seems like it was relatively good for the (common people’s) economy.
>>87
We need to properly work on things like road maintenance too.
>>87
Since the daimyo is throwing around money, the places where it’s being thrown should be economically favorable, right?
Hunting for smartphones!!
One of the amazing things about Hideyoshi is that he perfectly executed the rituals required of the court nobles.
Originally, the interaction with the noble families in Kyoto was entrusted to the Oda clan since their time.
Even advanced samurai can’t properly perform court rituals and simplify them instead, which is amazing.
>>88
It seems that he was studying court culture and etiquette like crazy even before he became important…
Toothache is…
>>90
Even the general suffered from toothaches, but cavities in the past were terrifying…
Both Hideyoshi and Ieyasu have become gods.
Is Nob becoming a god?
>>92
It’s happening.
“This guy is trying to become a god like a missionary.”
>>98
If that guy is Bishamonten, then I’m the Demon King!
>>92
Ken-kun God
I wished you had left the sword behind…
I don’t understand why we would leave someone from a farming background in Kyoto.
It’s scary that there are close friends of the nobility being made all over the place…
Ieyasu also passed away soon after tying up his final loose ends, which gives a sense of fate.
Farmers are not disarmed because having guns is necessary for hunting.
I won’t forgive anyone who destroys the fields.
In other words, by the time of the Sengoku period, the Japanese aristocracy was also quite pragmatic.
I think that’s quite commendable.
Well, it’s just that the aristocrats who couldn’t adapt to the times perished.
I have heard that around the middle of the Muromachi period, there started a trend of deifying oneself even while alive.
Was it Yoshida Shinto or something?
What should we do with so many samurai in a time of peace?
I organized a super powerful central government army and killed everyone who opposed us.
The Edict of Compassion for Living Beings by Tokugawa Tsunayoshi was also meant to eliminate the spirit of the Warring States.
Conversely, it means that even in the Edo period, during the fifth generation of the Tokugawa shogunate, there were still many people with the mentality of the warring states.
Aren’t there too many exceptional people in this era?
>>110
Everyone who wasn’t extraordinary is dead.
>>110
Generally, everyone except for the outstanding individuals dies quickly…
It seems that I finally got over the samurai mentality with Tsuneyoshi.
>>111
Is it like the ending of Chūshingura?
>>117
The fact that they are quietly being taken down means they are already tamed.
A change in government?! Then it’s first strike wins!! But I’m not attacking Himeji or anything!
But even a samurai can do things other than just wielding a sword…
>>114
It was just a bunch of guys who couldn’t promote industry…
>>122
Since soldiers are always required to engage in life-threatening battles on the battlefield, it’s not particularly important for them to be able to handle politics and economics.
Unfortunately, a period with little to no wars continued for over 200 years.
>>114
It’s an era where samurai must read books and learn to use an abacus from now on.
The noble and truly prestigious western area is a sengoku period where the local clans are having too much fun, making it seem unfortunate.
>>115
If it’s about Ouchi, isn’t Ouchi’s influence overwhelming?
“If you can start a rebellion, then go ahead and try, you idiot! It’s amazing that no one actually does it anymore.”
Everyone submitted from the northernmost point to the southernmost point.
>>118
I think everyone was exhausted from the chaos since the late Muromachi period.
>>123
I think there are quite a few things that cannot be done in chaotic times.
Castles and castle towns have to be built inconveniently for war purposes.
>>128
Even in peaceful times, that’s just how it is.
It’s okay to be defenseless! There aren’t many places like that.
>>128
First, the road cannot be maintained.
>>135
Maintaining the roadways is too dangerous from a defense perspective, and it’s also difficult to manage…
>>128
In the Edo period, painters who left their names, if they were doctors or scholars, would probably have been conscripted as soldiers in chaotic times.
It would have been difficult to carry out large-scale river improvements in Kuwana City and Ogaki City.
>>123
If you’re feeling fatigued from that, then there wouldn’t have been continuous warfare since the late Kamakura period.
Edo seems to have affordable rice…
There is an image that Oda laid the groundwork through domestic affairs, Toyotomi developed it, and Tokugawa stabilized it.
>>126
There’s a story that Nobunaga was busy with wars and didn’t really focus much on domestic affairs…
However, building a large sphere of influence in the center itself would likely have a significant domestic impact.
The aftermath of the Ako Incident involved a lot of back-and-forth due to the transition of the samurai mentality.
Rice can be processed into expensive food even in modern times, but back then, just fermenting it must have been quite a challenge.
Why isn’t Oda Nobunaga bald?
If we increase the ronin in Shimabara and Yui Koyuki, it won’t go well, leading to a festival of demotion.
“The late-term adoption is also okay, so it has loosened up.”
The Taiko land survey is still brought up as evidence in land dispute lawsuits even today.
>>138
Dotonbori lawsuit?
>>143
It’s not limited to that; it often comes up.
To put it bluntly, the land area survey based on the Meiji Army’s Survey Department, which was based on the Taiko land survey, is the data for the land we are currently using.
The difficulty of gradually taking away violence…
>>141
Well, these three are no exception and things are getting bad with the uprising.
Not only during the Kamakura period, but there has been continuous warfare since the middle of the Heian period.
There are records in letters from missionaries at the time mentioning that unification was achieved after 500 years by Hideyoshi.
>>142
I can’t imagine that the missionary knows much about the Heian period.
>>144
It is written in the letter that Japanese people are saying that.
>>150
Unless I know specifically who in what class is saying what, I can’t understand the nuance.
In writings like the “Gukan Sho,” there is a term for the era of warriors since the Hōgen Rebellion, and in the “Tamon-in Diary,” it is recorded that the neighboring country of Iga had no warfare for 500 years, so it is possible that court nobles and monks recognize that point as a turning point.
Is it that super capable people have held power for three generations and finally reforms are being made…?
>>145
It might be because, just after Qin unified China, it quickly split again, and the Han dynasty inherited the system and infrastructure created by Qin, establishing a stable reign.
Because the Middle Ages were a lawless place more than I expected.
This is amazing, the three unifiers that were submitted!
Why have neighboring villages been fighting each other for over 100 years since before the Sengoku period?
>>146
I wonder if it’s simply because they do not know about medieval customary law.
>>146
Before explaining that, it is necessary to understand the situation of the Onin War.
It will be a little long.
>>152
It’s seriously long!
>>146
Conversely, such regional conflicts are likely to continue endlessly without a resolution.
Unlike Kamakura, which centralized power and brought the entire country under its control,
If we don’t go through the process where local lords gained power at the regional level.
Centralized power means it’s all about the center, and they don’t care what happens to the regions.
It is the same as the present!
Even with the Taiko land survey and throughout the Edo period, they could never eliminate the hidden rice fields…
As expected, with the land tax reform where the Meiji government began managing all the land, everything came to light…
>>153
In the first place, the image of land surveys is different from modern times; they are not something that is done so frequently, but rather once every few decades or so.
It seems that it is not widely known that the land that has been reclaimed during that time does not incur a tax.
In the late Edo period, when the sale of rice was liberalized for merchants other than those with special privileges, rice hoarding occurred, causing rice prices to skyrocket.
Interest in that demand has led to increased investments in rural areas for new reclamation, so there are quite a few newly reclaimed lands by the Meiji period.
Karate and jiu-jitsu at a level where children can kill adults have not become widespread.
I really think it was good.
Without Ieyasu, everything would have been fine, right?
Just a mere Edo development commissioner.
Hidden rice field?!
It certainly must be difficult to understand everything, but hiding a rice field is quite amazing.
I didn’t have that idea.
>>158
I found a farmer coming back from the forest holding a hoe in a historical comic.
There were scenes that felt like, “There’s a hidden rice field there!”
>>161
If I were to secretly create a single rice terrace in a secluded valley deep in the mountains where only the locals visit, it might be possible to somehow cover it up.
>>168
Historically, until before the war, Japan was able to create hidden fields.
>>158
It’s a life hack that occasionally appears in historical dramas.
>>162
You can’t really call it evil…
The tribute is more unscrupulous.
In period dramas, you often see the police capturing criminals.
In the Middle Ages, there were cases where a trial wouldn’t be conducted unless the parties involved brought the perpetrator, referred to as the “living mouth.”
Moreover, the enforcement of the judgment is not substantial, so it fundamentally relies on self-help.
In fact, looking at the history before that, I wonder how well they managed with just three people.
>>163
Without a doubt, these three seem to be on a winning streak as if chosen by heaven.
I feel that the governance is due to the divine mandate of having three people in line.
>>163
During the Heian and Kamakura periods, there were governance structures and they would conduct trials, but essentially, it was self-help.
The Muromachi Shogunate was unable to govern beyond a portion from the beginning, so it was naturally impossible.
I really think it’s amazing that we have brought the situation from this state to one where those who do bad things like in the Edo period can be caught.
>>177
The guardian is in charge.
I guess it would be difficult to find rice fields in the middle of a huge mountain…
On the other hand, England defeated Spain in the Battle of Armada and became the world hegemon of the Age of Discovery.
>>167
In this work, the butterfly effect causes Drake to fail massively because of Japan, leading to England getting weaker compared to historical events, and it’s really interesting how history keeps changing.
>>169
Saito’s reincarnation was changing history like that…
I wonder if the Calvarin cannon will properly reach Japan.
There used to be malicious people who hoarded rice to drive up prices.
>>170
It comes out when it’s a futures contract.
The emergence of the Dojima rice average in Japan a while ago is one of the factors for the price surge.
>>175
If you keep holding onto rice and buy futures now, you’ll make a ton of profit…
Recently, it was in the news that some IT companies have actually entered the wholesale market in the U.S.
I will definitely make a profit with the power of both futures and physical assets.
>>184
You should just die!
As expected, I can’t secretly do this as an individual, so it’s mostly tax evasion involving the village or community, which is a life hack for hidden rice fields.
Hidden fields can be legitimate life hacks officially recognized by the authorities in some regions, while in others, they might be a genuine lifeline, so it’s hard to generalize.
Even a small village generally has armed groups.
The Kamakura and Muromachi periods had too small units of power.
Civil war within a civil war… The Warring States period was still better.
>>180
Yamana, who gained one-sixth of the guardianship of Japan, was referred to as “one-sixth lord,” so I don’t think it’s insignificant.
The Muromachi shogunate was relatively peaceful during the time from Yoshimitsu to Yoshimasa, despite some conflicts.
I’m gradually addressing this area while attracting some hate.
I honestly think that even in an alternate reality where Nobunaga is alive, it’s impossible to sustain it as a single generation or a single power structure.