I understand that the thread image is being called a castelist, but I still like it as it is.

Shema will be led by me.

>>2

I understand.

I wonder why Gato, a character whose enemy became a righteous warrior, has to be criticized.

>>2

I think it’s okay to like a cool villain if it’s within the scope of anime.

I feel like characters like Seema are often liked because they have a strong victim mentality.

Do you know?

In Gundam, Zeon is the justice and the Federation is the evil.

>>8

Yamachan’s response

You idiot! Gundam is not like that!

The Federation isn’t exactly justice either, though.

>>12

Are those kinds of guys not okay with something like the Invincible East?

>>18

That person has no intention of being forgiven anyway…

>>12

It’s not like it’s a problem to kill billions of people in an anime… I can’t help but think that way.

If you have someone you like in real life, it definitely makes you wonder how that is.

I think Sarses and the mustached uncle are trash, but I like them as trash.

Was there a Gundam that depicted the battle between good and evil?

>>15

I thought the second half of 00’s Ty was a bit too much of the typical villain for the Arrows.

Thanks to SEEDFREEDOM and GQuuuuuuX, it’s really like history repeats itself with the revival of the absurd debates from ancient times.

Both are useless, so it can’t be helped.

Just because Zeon is evil doesn’t mean the Federation is just.

The reverse is also true.

Yet for some reason, when I talk about that, there are people who get angry and call me a Zionist sympathizer.

It’s not a story of simple dualism like good and evil, especially since it’s depicting the struggle between nations.

>>23

Then you can’t unleash the fury of justice!

>>29

I believe Amuro has justice.

At the very least, I think that East Invincible would have been pleased that his disciple surpassed him, and deep down, he probably also hoped that they would surpass him and deny his existence.

G Gundam also has heavy themes like the conflict between the colonies and Earth, but it seems to have gone beyond that and is not being discussed much anymore.

>>25

When you say that G Gundam had a happy ending, you get pricked.

It’s scary to see even those saying that Zeek Acts might increase the number of Zeon sympathizers.

To be honest, the Gundam series tends to pile on the villainy of opposing organizations pretty carelessly, doesn’t it?

>>31

After all, some evil has to be defeated to some extent…

>>31

Because it is carelessly piled up in my own organization too…

From Amuro’s perspective, the Zeon might seem evil… but there are episodes where Zeon soldiers are also portrayed as human beings.

>>32

Well, from Amuro’s perspective, the Federation is quite trash too.

I’m doing it with my mother.

>>32

If we’re talking about just the characters without considering the setting, there are actually some pretty tough types of mobs that show up on the Federation side…

>>32

Well, that’s the reason why my colony, where I lived, was attacked, and my father became missing and presumed dead…

Laru and Gato have that vibe of seasoned heroes.

The One Year War only lasted a year, yet it really conveys a sense of being battle-hardened.

>>39

Wasn’t Laru and others doing guerrilla activities in various places before the war started?

From Amuro’s perspective, the worst person is the Federation soldier who bought his mother.

>>40

From Amuro’s perspective, the most awful person is his mother…

>>40

Is that a person from the Federation…?

Just an ordinary person, I guess.

When you pull out just that much of the Igloo’s thug federation soldiers, it tends to make you think, “This Zionist bastard…” but among them, there are probably those whose families and friends were killed in the initial colony drop and such…

>>41

What we need to consider is that the concept of “no side” comes into play when, right before, the king himself had proposed a peace agreement, yet we were ambushed and our commander was killed, and we’re simply being unilaterally told to ceasefire without laying down our weapons!

Aside from the discussion about the nation as a whole, it’s just a matter of individuals living there having their own views on good and bad.

When it comes to war, it inevitably leads to fighting whether one wants it or not.

I sometimes see Gundam fans complaining about the Federation trying to drop Solomon with Jikaku, but I think that if the Federation’s position were different, they would have no qualms about dropping a colony or a planet as well.

I mean, the Titans also used colony lasers and poison gas, didn’t they?

>>45

I’m also doing colony drops.

>>50

Well, a month should be fine…

>>65

Dropping Solomon on the moon is pretty much the same thing…

The ones who have illegally occupied Amuro’s family home are also Federation soldiers.

Well, I think it’s the same for people everywhere that when they’re about to lose a big fight, they become desperate.

It may be unfortunate for Wakkain, who became the source of that…

>>51

It’s good to depict that even people who lament having civilians involved in war might act that way in such circumstances.

There are both good and bad people within the organization of scum.

The awareness that a person’s identity changes based on belonging is more Nazi-like, isn’t it?

Damn this shitty world to ruin.

Destroyed.

>>55

However… humanity had not been exterminated!

>>55

It was as the idle person said…

But you can’t survive without working, right?

What you’re doing is definitely evil and it’s not something that can be forgiven, but…

I wonder what it is… I probably can’t dislike it because it is presented in a way that hides its smallness…

Conversely, even if someone is on your side, if they have small-mindedness or cowardice, it becomes easier for hate to accumulate towards them.

Well, somehow when Amuro defeats a foe, the next enemy appears, so Shion has a higher rate of named character appearances, and with good characters showing up along with new mobile suits, that leaves a more lasting impression.

Many of the soldiers joining the White Base on the offensive side have great character.

How cruel… If you rape a guerrilla woman, she just bites her tongue and dies!!

>>63

Well, I understand Shiro’s feelings more than the motives for the desertion in the original anime, so I’ll forgive it…

You don’t have to think about it because the premise of the igloo is fundamentally strange.

I thought it was destroyed… but surprisingly, people were still alive. The world is terrifyingly resilient.

>>67

It’s funny that the Earth side isn’t exactly in the right either.

>>69

Well, I think Cloud 9 is just too ridiculous to say both are the same…

>>74

However, you see… since they are mass-producing the decisive weapon Gundam that can shoot down colonies, we must decide the battle now…

>>67

I really hate the idea of having my child load armor-piercing rounds…

>>68

Even though it’s not in the main story, it’s wild how a Zeon soldier casually said that just a 5cm rise in sea level shouldn’t be a big deal, but if he gets killed for it, he can’t complain…

>>84

That person was explored in the Thunderbolt side story, but even though he’s a reconnaissance soldier, he threatened his colleagues after seeing the Psycho Zaku and tried to drag them into a suicide mission.

>>92

If you’re trying to cut off your colleagues after that, that’s one thing, but if you’re just trying to become the sole ruler and die alone, then it just means you’re fully believing in your ideology.

In this area, if it’s consistent, I don’t really end up disliking it that much.

>>68

It’s a stroke of luck that the Titans’ leader was unrelated to that in a strange way.

I think that in the end, the Basques really don’t care about the Essence of the Basque Country, and just see it as an excuse to cause a commotion.

I like Ethan from 08 even though he’s a mess.

>>71

When a character delivers a cool line at the end, they somehow seem like a great character.

>>71

It’s stupid for someone to insist that it’s a hospital ship when it looks obviously like a warship.

>>76

I’m just casually adding various things.

>>76

Ethan is the only one who mentioned the hospital ship…

>>71

The Jaburo office is comfortable…

>>78

I dislike air conditioning.

>>71

I also like the part where the novel version of Norris comes out after risking his life to destroy the bridge and says something like, “Did you really think I was stupid enough to be in such a conspicuous place while the enemy is closing in?”

>>71

The image in the thread also has a strong impression due to its elegance at the time of parting.

There are too many humans, and if we don’t reduce the number of people, it will be a serious environmental problem.

The number that decreased during the One Year War returns to normal too quickly.

>>72

If you take that setting seriously, then children under 8 make up half of the population.

It’s a level of discussion that makes you wonder what kind of world it is.

It seems like the people who went from the Titans to Neo Zeon are probably being bullied within the organization, I wonder what it’s like.

>>77

Neo Zeon isn’t a monolith, so it seems to have become complicated and bizarre.

The colony fell into chaos, and in a total war where a mobile suit could single-handedly shoot down colonies, the population has decreased by 90%.

Earth Moderates: Let’s do it after strengthening our military and stabilizing governance.

Earth Extremists: Let’s kill aliens right now!

Space: Kill immediately on the ground.

There is no option to stop.

The story is that there are both good people and trash in both the Federation and Zeon, right?

At the time they were mass-producing Gundam X, it was clear they intended to wipe out the Earth.

What was set up first was Cloud 9.

Izealkant is really a troublesome existence, but I like him.

>>93

Everyone should die!!

It’s unavoidable because it’s Romi’s reincarnation…

>>93

It’s not about revenge for my child who died due to being driven to a terrible environment around Mars; rather, it’s a crazy reason that I waged war because humanity needs to be culled to protect Earth, the Eden (and I want a reason for my child’s death to be for the survival of humanity), which is also why I like that every previous final boss has been insane.

I think Gundam fans tend to be overly fixated on good and evil.

So let’s get on Armored Core together and go crush the vehicles of innocent citizens!

>>94

There weren’t that many hits for AC that you could do over there, right?

If the population suddenly halved, there would be nothing but decline…

>>96

There’s no particular explanation, but I’ve recovered!

What’s going on with the population pyramid…?

>>96

Well, I guess I’ll recover…

>>96

Even with the population halved, it is still over capacity.

It seems like there’s a persistent debate where some argue that it was wrong for the Federation to impose heavy taxes while implementing a policy of neglect towards the colonies, yet at the same time, it’s unacceptable to commit massacres against the colony residents and drop colonies.

>>101

So it’s a story that there is no absolute good or evil, yet there are fools who think one side is absolutely evil (mainly Zeon).

In that regard, Rakan, who went around destroying genuine civilian evacuation ships…

Since we’re at it, the federal government is pure in wanting to reduce the population in the colony.

I like the Titans too.

Colors and T3 unit, etc.

I often see things related to the camp or character surroundings.

Especially, Char gives the impression of being both the type that wants to fundamentally affirm things and the type that responds with pathetic comments on various occasions.

What should I really do about Izelkant?

>>107

I want you to die peacefully as a hero on the bed.

Project Eden will be imposed on Zehart there.

I just shot a sister who had become a bit of a jerk.

Major Nakato is doing absolutely the right thing as a military officer.

The look of disgust and the fact that they killed a beautiful person make them really unpopular with fans.

It’s crazy to call Gato Uesugi Kenshin just a terrorist.

To be honest, both the Federation and Zeon are pretty messed up, but I think Zeon has definitely crossed a line with the colony drops.

>>110

The federation is also dropping colonies on the lunar city, so isn’t this line not functioning?

>>124

Both the Federation and Zeon have a crude desire at their core to significantly reduce the population!

Regarding Delafree, there’s no way it wouldn’t shake if it were addressed in the voices of Kiyoshi Kobayashi and Akio Otsuka…

>>112

Chairman Durandal’s words and actions are all trash, but he has a good voice, so it feels like he’s saying something good…

>>123

I feel like it would have been more easily accepted if it had been gradually popularized in a way similar to a genetic-level employment agency.

If you ask whether a story’s villain can afford to be so leisurely, I’d say Yeah…

>>164

It’s helpful for those who want guidance.

>>112

In other words, the purpose is solid and easy to understand, so the level of trust is on a different level.

Before we knew it, Jupiter has become almost a dominant military power.

These guys have been squabbling among themselves for a while…

>>114

Tobia is too much of a hero.

>>120

😇 You’re amazing, Tobia-kun…♡

Zeon is still good.

In the work, no one defends the Titans, which are clearly stated to be below Zeon.

>>115

Mobile Suits are cool, right?!

>>115

Everyone loves Hazel, right?

>>115

I became very fond of the aircraft in AOZ.

>>115

I feel that Jamitov’s ideas have spread more than before.

As a result, I feel that this organization has become even more hopeless.

>>115

Well… there were often depictions that there are good people in Zeon, but the Titans really don’t have that kind of thing…

On the contrary, how can they gather so many worthless people?

>>157

Like Emma…

>>157

I also have a desire to see the Titans working hard to suppress ordinary Zeon-type terrorists.

They were trying seriously, but it seems like they are becoming a depressing work treated more and more like trash because of the mainstream.

>>157

Being selected for the special forces actually means being treated at a higher rank in terms of awareness!

This will increase.

>>115

Because the leader is aiming for an organization that is hated by all spacenoids in the first place…

Well, if we’re talking about the degree of massacre, the Zeon colony drops are indeed way too heinous…

I want to live on the moon.

It’s clear that the Titans can’t defend themselves just by looking at Z, even in the early stages…

It feels like it’s impossible to win with that, but if the Zions simply rebelled against the Federation without dropping the colonies, I can’t think of any other impression other than that.

>>122

In that case, it’s just a Dougram.

Amuro’s position becomes awkward.

Isn’t it tough to declare one side as justice in the Universal Century, rather than in an alternate timeline?

In the end, it turned into a situation where everyone destroyed each other, and ultimately people started eating other people, so it’s a society that somehow controls that through religion, you know?

>>127

In that regard, UC has a sense of failure that reflects the era.

Whether the Regal Century will enter a proper era is uncertain.

In the end, Side 3 becomes a peaceful countryside.

It seems difficult with Quax.

>>128

It’s not the countryside; it’s the city.

I feel like equating the colony drop with the massacre of colony residents is somewhat off.

It is a series of disasters resulting from the failure of the strategic objective of directly hitting Jaburo.

>>131

So before that, you’re killing the colony residents, aren’t you?

Jamito’s ideas aside, he has no discernment when it comes to people.

The opening narration “Half of humanity is dead? Now that’s just too much!”

>>133

If we don’t do at least that, then seriously, Zeon is the only one on the righteous side.

>>133

Yes… I’ll make it a little more colony and set it to 1/100…

>>147

Too extreme!

>>147

Addition

Destruction

>>134

The lynching of the hero of the One Year War and the protagonist’s mother being taken hostage and killed happens within the first three episodes, which is already amazing, and when you watch the full story, it’s at a level of being just an appetizer, what even is that!!

>>134

I thought it would be easier later on if it was just the right amount of rotten, and then the 30 Banchi incident happened.

>>111

The military has also been stagnant for a certain period.

The relationship with daily life, which does not significantly improve technical skills, is fundamentally based on the premise of abandoning people, so it only enhances for the privileged class.

I wanted him to die in Solomon.

>>138

Now that it’s at 83, the charismatic character has even become a fake Gâteau…

>>143

This isn’t a gateau.

>>138

No, Gato became the foundation of Zeon with the remnants of the stars.

I have no regrets about surviving until that moment, regardless of the media.

>>138

He was also planning to be annihilated there.

>>152

I will take care of that life.

>>163

Thanks to that, it’s good that I was able to die to the end for the independence movement of Zeon, or rather the space inhabitants…

I like MS, but the Titans are definitely worthless as an organization.

Still, there are people who like a thoroughly well-defined villain.

The so-called “Professor Crow,” a real alien, has gone back.

>>145

In the end, there’s no one else but this alien! What is going on?!

The Titans were too terrible because they intentionally gathered trash.

Is it a sketch?

It’s not funny that Jamitov’s ideology shatters so early on.

In other words, looking at later history, if there hadn’t been the Delaz Fleet, the universe would have remained a slave to the Earth Federation government.

It was seriously a turning point.

The fact that Emma was also chosen by Jamitov indicates there was something off about it.

I think Durandal is right because that world is just garbage itself.

>>166

That’s one answer in its own way.

Considering the situation in the world, that is indeed a correct answer.

Seeing the Arrows abducting Saji and pulling the Konda even now makes me laugh.

Monshia and Beit joining the Titans is completely reasonable.

The Delaz Fleet seriously made it all the way to dropping the colonies with their tactical Gato, which is insane.

Mr. Basque has a sad past because he was tortured by the Zeon…

The Titans used MS weapons against suspicious individuals inside the colony in the first episode, which left Char dumbfounded…