>>1

Amuro is in a pinch, but those two are in a really dangerous situation there, right?

I’ve got a high vase.

If we had deployed the Big Zam fleet earlier, we could have made them fall three days sooner!

(The end of the war in this world is not December 31, but January 3.)

Where was this person during the time of Solomon in the Ziek Axis timeline?

Did you properly collect Zena and Mineva?

>>5

It has nothing to do with either Char or Amuro coming as reinforcements for Solomon, right? It’s not in accordance with the official history, is it?

>>5

Maybe Luna II.

Kisilia’s right-hand position?

It’s going to Earth, but it feels a bit ambiguous if it’s the right arm.

>>7

In the main story, Kysiria says that she can’t move from the moon, so she sent her trusted subordinate Makube.

…Why the Azum Date?

However, it’s not like it looks like a huge profit just because I was entrusted with a large base.

It’s certain that they are a close confidant.

Even in that dimension, I wonder if they are leading the Luna Two invasion and being promoted to major general while overseeing military tribunals; they must be quite an important person.

How much resources do you need to fight for 10 years?

The command structure is divided among the Zabi family, with Gihren in the homeland, Dozle in Solomon, and Kishiria on the Moon.

The ground duty was supposed to be Garma’s, but since Garma is still inexperienced, it will be handled by Kishiria.

Kishiria has entrusted the surface to Ma Kube.

It’s such a prestigious position, yet for some reason, they only reached the rank of Colonel.

>>15

Because Garma is a colonel.

People who go on a fun date with His Excellency Kshyria in the Azam.

Leaving things to Macabe on the ground… but in reality, the commander of the European theater was Major General Yuri Kenella, and the African theater was under the command of Brigadier General Neuen Bitter (who was promoted to Major General at the end of the war), so even though Kishiria has some influence, he doesn’t really have much military power that he can command.

>>19

Garma is called the Commander of the Earth Forces, but in reality, he is the Commander of the North American Forces.

>>19

In the first place, there is a significant disparity between the base commander and the corps commander.

Throw away the boring people and pride.

If we had teamed up with Char’s Gelgoog, we might have made it pretty far.

It feels like there are too few ranks above the rank of Major General in the Zeon forces.

It may just be that it’s not coming out.

>>21

In Origin, the original general commanding the Jaburo descent operation appeared, using the Aggam as the command tower.

Although it retreats after being attacked, the rare mobile suit Achtum fights against Gundam without being shot down and survives until the end.

Somewhat simplistic or rather impulsive.

The capable parts are truly competent, but the mistakes are just too huge.

That’s precisely because Garma Zabi was a colonel, so he couldn’t have ranked higher than that.

The pilot is amazing, being able to hold their own against Amuro despite not being a professional.

It’s amazing that Ma Kube is in a position to suggest improvements to the manufacturing line for MS development.

>>31

Since I lost in the competition, it seems I can have it made just for me.

It is believed to be colluding with Twimad.

Who rode the gyan?

It seems that there might be restrictions for members of the duchy or established countries for those above the rank of major general.

From now on, it’s the trial too.

It’s unimaginable not to deploy Char and his fleet for the Luna II attack, but somehow it went well.

Aristocracy

In Origin, the overall rank felt more realistic, didn’t it everyone?

>>38

M was above Garma as a lieutenant general from the very beginning.

Zeke Ax is a major general in the post-war era, but during the One Year War, he probably remained a colonel.

>>29

Is it really okay to treat the heir of the Zabi family like this…?

>>39

Until WB arrives, he’s a pampered boy engaging in lovey-dovey behavior with his girlfriend (laughs)…

>>49

The only ones who are sweet on Garma are Degwin and Dozle.

The matter of not sending Dom to Ral.

The Ral squad acted on its own without discussing it with anyone, because it was a unit that was supposed to carry out Dozle’s revenge against Garma.

I can understand why you’d feel frustrated about having your plans disrupted and then being told to provide support for it.

>>40

The Lalah Squad itself is just Dozle’s whims.

>>40

Before the war, Macbe’s draft of the integrated maintenance plan was obstructed by Dozle, which further worsens the impression.

The base commander will start from Major (Lieutenant Colonel) even in Japan.

>>41

And because they become active pilots, it is common for them to be dispatched by the base commander (for flight hours) even in Japan.

Was that line about being made a man by General Dozle present in the original work?

>>44

Homo…

A person who has a strong image of fighting, even though they shouldn’t be in the field due to their position or work.

>>45

The Texas Colony that was in a hurry aside, what’s with having frontlines in other places too?

The image of pilots was that of officers, but in reality during World War II, there were instances of pilots who were below that rank.

>>50

Although it’s said that it’s because of the war, there is still a short period in modern times where a pilot can hold the rank of Second Corporal until completing the pilot training and the leadership training course.

Because it’s the Colonel…

The colonel challenges the ace to battle while piloting an MS.

>>53

It is said, the red person.

>>53

In history, there was a general who participated in intercepting by personally flying a fighter jet.

>>58

There are those who, despite being a colonel, were flying attack aircraft and undertaking dangerous ground attack missions…

He is an outstanding man capable of shooting down WB.

Well, I left satisfied without confirming the death…

A colonel is a division commander, so they’re a really important person, a leader who oversees 15,000 people.

>>59

In reality, the colonel is about the battalion commander, right?

The subordinates are around 500 to 1000.

>>65

This area seems to differ between land, sea, and air.

>>72

As a colonel in the Air Force, you might be a base commander or the leader of an air force unit (with 50 to 150 aircraft).

As a naval colonel, you would be the captain of a main ship (aircraft carrier or battleship) or the commander of an escort squadron (one cruiser and four destroyers or frigates).

The Zabi family’s rank is the ceiling in Zeon, isn’t it?

In reality, even in the pre-war Japanese military, royal military personnel were treated as top-ranking, so they advanced in rank at the speed of light.

I think that because Char died and I survived, all the troubles after the war are probably falling on this person.

Speaking of which, I thought I died in Odessa, but I actually ended up in space.

The cockpit of the Azzam has an unusually surprising mechanical feel.

>>66

The neighbor Kyshiria is raising the Time Bokan level.

In the main story of Zeek Axis, it seems that he has been promoted to the rank of lieutenant general, so he is close to the top of the administrative staff.

>>67

Was Shahat, the head of Igloo’s technology department, a major general?

>>67

It seems that in that world, Kishiria has become the only existence that can stand shoulder to shoulder with Gilen, and since she is his right hand, that’s quite impressive.

Is the Asunabal family part of the Zeon nobility?

It’s strange that a young man of questionable origin can reach the rank of captain.

>>69

He’s Garma’s friend and an extremely talented ace pilot…

In the Universal Century, there are mostly lieutenant commanders with combat types and no one who can lead others.

>>71

During wartime, if you achieve merits, your rank will increase.

>>71

Aren’t the federal side’s higher-ups doing their job fairly well?

There’s so few people in Zeon that Captain Dolen is commanding a patrol fleet with three light cruisers.

>>78

A stray bullet hit Major Wackein, the commander of Luna Base 2.

>>79

Isn’t it strange that this important base has a low rank?

>>82

I didn’t feel like it was such an important stronghold based on the TV explanation…

>>82

Regarding Wakkein, when the Luna Two fleet deployed for the Helion operation aimed at destroying the Zeon supply lines, the official commander was killed, and just a few days before the White Base entered port with the 1st, the Zeon Marine Corps led by Schema Garahau attacked, leading to the commander’s death… and that’s how we ended up with an interim commander.

In a real army, there are quite a few officers, not to mention generals, because otherwise, there wouldn’t be enough personnel to manage the organization.

>>80

In the army, the division commanders are generally either a brigadier general or a major general in most countries, so even in the pre-war Japanese army, there were about 50 to 60 brigadier generals and major generals at the same time.

>>80

The Galactic Empire’s army, which only showcases high-ranking generals, was indeed correct…

It seems that Kysyria has raised the ceiling to the maximum as the general or marshal now.

I’m playing the role of an evil executive in an old-school super robot world.

The promotion exam might be difficult and I might not pass it at all.

I saw Gundam and Kukurus Doan from Zieg Ax, and although they are villains, they have a strangely human quality that makes it hard to dislike them.

I also like Kukurus Doan’s last line; when you think about it calmly, he’s the cause of it all.

It’s a bit strange that Sharia is now a lieutenant colonel, so I wonder if they’ve stopped after all…

>>89

It seems there is a gloomy feeling of not wanting to go above the rank of Colonel.

Does the base commander lead the fleet into battle?

>>92

In the Gundam world, it’s quite…

That’s why Wackein said there’s no way they could take in refugees, right? So that’s why they refused…

Although there were complaints about only having one Salamis as escort for the White Base, at that time Luna II had only a couple of surviving ships left: two Magellan-class and five to seven Salamis-class, due to Char’s sabotage operations and the fact that the Magellan-class ships were in the way of the White Base.

While it’s true that there are no soldiers in Zeon, it doesn’t mean that there are no combatants, which is not widely known.

It means that there are only individuals with outstanding individual skills like warriors, but there are no military-type individuals with a solid command structure.

>>94

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>>94

Under the current settings, it’s about the Battle of Luum where the Federation chose a dense defensive formation.

The damage to the pilots in the British operation, which used MS—originally an offensive weapon—for colony defense, turned out to be much greater than expected and has become a serious situation.

A person who is remarkably high-ranking to the point of being unusual.

In the first place, there weren’t enough people left at Luna II to reorganize the White Base with regular soldiers.

In reality, there are many cases where even the base commander participates in intercepting by personally boarding a fighter jet, or leaves the deputy commander to watch over in order to involve the base’s defense fleet in operations, and personally goes aboard the ship…

It seems better to strategize without engaging in the front lines, but we lack the manpower.

Culturally strong with intense likes and dislikes, is it really okay for a capable officer to come to the front lines?

Before complaining, people from each faction should send over talent comparable to this person.

>>102

There isn’t even anyone like that among Kshyria’s subordinates.

The first generation simply consisted of the Zabi brothers, with titles of General, Lieutenant General, Major General, and Colonel.

The others were below that.

>>103

Please provide the Japanese text you would like me to translate.

There are dramatic reasons for sending them out excessively, aren’t there?

Even if they say the ace has been promoted and hasn’t been deployed at all, it doesn’t excite anyone at all.

Is Conscon a major general…?

If you’re leading a fleet of that scale in the story, it’s usually around that, right?

Is Neuen Bitter also a major?

Gundam fans tend to forget that it’s a children’s anime.

The integrated maintenance plan should have been done before the war.

Colonel Balom, the captain of the Guajinn-class ship dispatched with Macbe to reinforce Solomon, might have a similar rank in reality.

I think this person is more on the administrative side.

If it’s said that I’m not in the administrative side because I’m going head-to-head with Amuro, then my argument is over.

>>112

It’s not wrong to provide support from the administrative side.

It seems that just being able to operate an MS at such a high level means I can fight Amuro in hand-to-hand combat.

They might have been driving an MS in the construction industry back in the day.

How strong was Gyan?

>>113

The joints adjusted for combat, which move smoothly, were probably top-class in smoothness for that era.

In the first generation, Twining is a brigadier general.

Isn’t Sakhalin also a general?

>>115

Because he is the commander of the Southeast Asia Army, he is a major general.

Very impressive.

>>115

Because I’m a Technical Major General… it’s a bit different from other Major Generals…

As for Guineas, I’m throwing the practical work at Norris…

At the end of the war, the Japanese Army had over 1,000 officers, including reserves, for a troop strength of 3 million.

The person in charge of the Apsaras project has the base in Lhasa, but isn’t it a bit different from being the commander in Southeast Asia?

>>121

He’s just the commander of the Asian Army.

It is written in the list of the Sentinel’s Zeon Earth Army.

At that time, the commander of the African army, Bitter, was still a colonel.

>>125

Is he a Technical Major General?

>>128

So it felt like Colonel Norris was handling the actual duties.

The Sakhalin family is a very prestigious family, so there’s no problem with their status at all.

It was written as “Major General” instead of “Technical Major General” in the first place.

In the Zeon regional army, only in Oceania is the commander a colonel.

It was such a remote location that not even a single Dom was sent.

>>123

Colonel Curtis, who is rebellious against the Zabi family but somehow talented, thought, “Let’s send him to Australia where the locals have the worst feelings after being hit directly by the colony!” and as a result, some locals turned out to be pro-Zion supporters due to his exceptional skills…

>>126

Weird guys have come fleeing from North America…

>>123

It must have been pretty battered after a colony fell nearby…

Personnel who should originally be in the Joint Staff Headquarters.

Gyan can continuously use Hell Thrust.

Well, I avoid all Gundam.

>>129

In the movie, it became a technique of the Gelgoog…

Isn’t Norris too excellent?

What we’re focusing on from a Zeon perspective is Europe and North America.

I can’t remember if there was a depiction in the first Vanilla that the colony drop was intentionally caused by Zeon…

>>132

A composition of Zaku and Musai guarding a falling colony in the opening title.

What were the lines in the story like?

He was a colonel, after all, Norris.

I have no image of such a high rank at all.

>>136

I thought it was about a captain…

The technical officer is looked down upon by the people on the ground, so the systematic rank is one level higher than that of the field, right?

>>138

As for Monique, she is a direct subordinate of Gihren dispatched from the Supreme Command, so she was merely treated that way; in reality, there is no such system.

It’s like the Titans.

Isn’t Cadillac a technical officer…?

>>142

Special Duty Captain with the authority equivalent to that of a Major.

Not a technical officer.

Was that really the right thing to say at the moment of death…?

>>144

Right after that, Uragan died too, I wonder if the good vase safely reached Ms. Kishiria…

>>152

It has properly arrived.

In the movie version, they don’t go out to battle, so they end up living.

Norris is clearly of a much higher class for what he’s doing, so I guess the Sakhalin family’s power is incredible.

>>145

I think there are also people who have risen from the ranks in the field.

That pineapple is ridiculously strong…

The first generation is a mess because of the rankings.

The setting of class relationships might be based on a reorganized version of the origin.

Regarding Monique, it feels like the captain of the Prohonou ship in Jotunheim has been given authority equivalent to that of a lieutenant colonel as a civilian, so that he can have a say in matters.

I think he was a valuable person to let die as a pilot…

>>150

If it follows the TV version, it seems like my mental state is already not good…

>>150

The issue of Zeon officers being deployed too far forward.

Noris had a chance to survive, but he decided to give that up to save Aina’s lover and complete the mission, so that was the resolve he took at the end…

>>151

Well, it’s all ruined by big brother anyway!

Isn’t Revil’s attitude amazing when they threaten with a hydrogen bomb?

Looking at it now, I realize this guy was actually a bad dude.

>>157

Just because he’s understanding towards Amuro and the others, he’s basically a hawkish old man.

>>161

I’m not particularly a hawk.

I was just saying that the assessment of combat strength is wrong during the engagement, I wasn’t saying to start a war.

>>157

Revil is honestly a piece of trash and an extremist.

It feels like a kind yakuza old man from the local area.

>>166

Isn’t calling them scum a bit extreme, regardless of the radicals?

The pilot may not be a specialist, but they are capable of fighting against Gundams.

I think it would have been better to send out Gyann with a machine gun instead of the difficult-to-handle Gelgoog for students and Shinpei.

>>158

McBee was able to put up a decent fight because he was cornered in a trap-filled colony and engaged in close combat, but it would be impossible in space combat.

The TV version self-destructs purely out of a sense of frustration towards Char.

It might be because Kycilia valued the Newtype units.

But honestly, in the main TV show, Ma doesn’t seem that capable.

I think it’s a person who is extremely enhanced by external factors.

In the Conscone or deflationary Zeon ranks, they should be really esteemed, but…

If it’s a space battle without mines, I’ll just fly around as usual and blast with my beam rifle until it’s done.

http://www.08ms-team.net/character/zeon.html

Conversely, it feels like the effort to recognize one’s abilities and try hard to defeat the Federation’s Newtypes in the confined space of the Texas Colony is acknowledged.

The rank deflation in Zeon seems to be mainly due to the Zabi family being involved in the military ranks.

>>169

In other words, the early Gundam still had remnants of super robots.

Commander Wackaine of Luna 2 has been told repeatedly that the major is strange.

>>172

Just because it’s a super robot doesn’t mean the rank is sloppy…

It’s just that Gundam is sloppy.

>>169

In terms of position, both Dozle and Kishiria are at a level where they can be considered marshals.

Why are you doing something like being a major general?

Even though Lady Kishiria is so scary…

It was surprising that someone defended MacBeth during a meeting where MacBeth wasn’t present.

No one understands the necessity of mineral bases! It’s only because of Mockbe that mobile armor was able to be put into practical use!

Thanks to their distinctive quirks that make them unforgettable after just one glance, they’re likely to appear quite often in side stories along with the aircraft.

She’s one of Kyshiria’s personal subordinates.

It’s true that Revel’s treatment of the White Base isn’t exactly praiseworthy, but it’s unreasonable to treat it like something akin to trash or like the Zeon extermination uncle.

I wonder what Television version Kycillia thought about Mad’s vase obsession… Did she cherish the vase sent to her at the time of her death…?

>>180

After all, Kycilia herself dies in just a few days…

In other words, Kycilia is quite an interesting woman and too good of a woman, you know…

Aside from appearance

The more you become a good woman through retroactive settings, the less believable it becomes that poison gas was used in the colony.

>>183

It’s not like it was just Kshiria’s unilateral decision to use it, right…?

>>183

I didn’t know that!!

I think they’re determining their rank based on their own notions of Zeon.

>>184

I was a colonel until a little while ago, but the command was wiped out, and the homeland was taken over by traitors who made peace on their own, so from today I’m a lieutenant general!

>>184

You can create a principality on a whim.

The personal element of Macbecatz has almost completely vanished.

It probably just means that the counteroffensive operation is prepared to the point where it wouldn’t matter if I, along with others here, die from the use of a hydrogen bomb.

Because they didn’t easily make someone a marshal to avoid making it look like nepotism.

On the contrary, the twist of having the so-called “something faction” and others created the factional culture that is a specialty of Zeon.

>>188

If you’re at the top of the two major warlords, that doesn’t mean anything, right?

It’s just that the responsibilities and the rank are no longer in balance.

Neo Zeon Commander Char Aznable in the polar region.

>>192

That isn’t even an army in the first place.

Colonel is like a nickname.

It looks like the Zeon army is just a military where faction power allows lieutenant colonels to do whatever they want without listening to the words of the non-sectarian commanders.

I can’t help but feel that Garma being appointed as a 20-year-old Colonel in charge of the North American Front is somewhat complicating the rank structure within Zeon.