
It’s not because I rushed, but the hopelessness of being clumsy.
It’s not Char, but this guy is way too much of a singularity.
What the hell is this guy…?
There might be a world line where Denim Zak is not doing well and images and Char intrude…
>>4
If Char gets angry, I’d definitely stop…
If you don’t stop it, the Gun Cannon’s attack will explode and make a hole in the colony because you can’t defend against it like a slender shoulder.
An obvious example of how aiming too high without the capability won’t lead to good results.
Maybe I’ve been told that all along.
Well, it’s said that Amuro got into the Gundam because of this guy even before the Ziegax, so he’s quite a historically significant culprit.
>>8
It is said that it happened because of a lack of endurance when there were no Zeke Axis.
If it weren’t for the Ziekax, I should have been more brisk and not so sluggish.
If we just did regular reconnaissance without this guy, we would have had to deal with three sets of Gundam teams piloted by regular pilots, and even Char would find that tough, wouldn’t he?
This is often said, but in the original work, it doesn’t change that much, right?
This guy has been drastically altered in the previous part.
>>11
That said, it’s undeniable that Char is more skillful than the one in the thread image.
If it’s done skillfully, it also means that Amuro isn’t able to ride.
>>12
If everything is checkmate except for Char launching a direct attack, it’s not the thread’s responsibility.
It’s just Char being strange.
>>11
Since Char is talking about “the inspiration from that time,” it should be a premise that people who have seen the movie understand…
>>44
(I forgot until I watched it a second time…)
They quickly started firing at civilians instead of taking the Gundam.
>>13
Usually, no one would get into a new enemy weapon that might move while a defense team is firing missiles.
It’s generally impossible to get off what you’re currently riding in battle and hijack the enemy’s machine… I think.
>>14
They say that even Char gave in to some inexplicable impulse there, so it’s not a sane situation…
The time of Samboru was amazing, but it’s been altered even more with the design changes.
In the Zeke Axis world, I hope Amuro rides the Gundam and the Federation becomes a hammer-loving one.
Whether or not to shoot civilians is the turning point for Amuro piloting the Gundam.
This guy will explode, and history will be blasted in an incredible direction.
>>20
If Temurei is safe, it seems like a lot of things will change again…
>>23
If this Zaku hadn’t exploded and made a hole in the colony, Tem Ray would have been alive…
If Amuro were to stay on the White Base all the way to Tem Ray, it would probably suffer an insane modification.
Well, there might be a route to reach it without destroying Gene, but the only way to take it would be for Char to directly board.
If Amuro doesn’t get on the White Base after breaking it, we will be much closer to the world of Zeke Aks.
>>24
For some reason, the Pegasus is at Side 7, and the MS mass production plan is not progressing independently in Jaburo.
Using a WB of relatively low importance as bait to lure in Zeon soldiers, the original world is set up to be significantly more advantageous for Zeon.
Even for a colonel, whether to drop Axis or not makes a big difference.
Me too!
Once the resistance is gone, Gene is probably thinking about collecting it as it’s moving normally towards the Gundam, right?
Rather than awkwardly thinking about collecting them, it would have been better to just shoot the moving ones right there; if it were the 1st, it would have been good to kill Amuro.
In the beginning, Char acted according to his desires… or so I thought, but looking back, even from the First, this guy has always been doing whatever he wants based on his desires.
>>27
(I wonder if this will work…? It should work…) I’m sort of scheming and aiming for assassination while living in the moment.
If denim puts out ambition together, there’s a chance.
It will only turn out that way until we take the Gundam.
It’s also important not to let Amuro pilot normally (to avoid creating that cause)…
I see, so there is also a possibility of seeing the Tem Ray version of the Gundam Mk2 in Zeek Axis.
>>30
They are betraying and going to Zeon…
But my subordinate is showing this kind of ambition.
I quite like Char.
If we’re talking about the original story, while it’s true that Amuro piloting is a big deal, we mustn’t forget that Jean launched an unexpected surprise attack that the WB side didn’t anticipate, resulting in almost all the regular pilots, crew members, and engineers being killed, as well as causing significant damage to the MS units.
Even if Amuro didn’t pilot it, if the three Gundams and numerous cannon tanks were functioning normally, they could easily repel Char and land on Earth without any issues.
“It’s just that Gene didn’t rush ahead, so the advantage for the Federation remains unchanged; therefore, it’s not necessarily this guy who is the culprit.”
>>32
It’s crazy that Temu is going to be active… It seems like it could change the history of MS.
>>34
Mass production of light cannons! The fact that a large number of MS stronger than the gym are being deployed seems to be related to Gene not exploding and Tem Ray still being active.
>>32
If this guy returns with a report, wouldn’t Char’s actions differ from the official history?
Thinking from a learning computer’s perspective, it would ultimately be more profitable not to have Amuro on board, but if we consider it without a crazed genius like Amuro, it’s too dangerous not to eliminate the V Project machines as much as possible there.
Dozle understands that too, so he doesn’t blame Char for losing the Zaku, and he conveniently provides additional Zakus as requested.
If we didn’t destroy or take it at that timing, it would have been brought to the White Base and we would have been stuck, so the attack itself was the right choice.
I became the scapegoat because I was attacking irrelevant places and causing unnecessary trouble.
>>37
But if we don’t hit an unrelated area, we can’t wear down the crew…
I don’t feel like blaming someone else for not being able to do what Char could do.
Even Char is experiencing melee combat with mobile suits for the first time… which raises doubts about the skill level of the Federation’s regular pilots.
Because neither the strong nor the weak can be proven.
>>39
In the early days, Amuro was a novice, and his success was largely due to the performance of the Gundam; even with regular soldiers piloting and in larger numbers, it would still be tough for Char.
>>39
Since I came with a target Zaku, I was probably doing tests against MS.
Above all, it’s an incredible skill to get so close to Char with nearly equal-spec Gundams.
>>53
You were avoiding the beam rifle, right?
To go to Zeekas, first, the psychommu must be miniaturized enough to be integrated into the Gundam before being installed on Hermes.
There are other factors such as Char’s arrival being a bit early or the evacuation being quick.
The Gun Cannon is equipped with beam cannons…
There is a possibility that a regular Gundam pilot could be a Newtype even more than Amuro.
>>46
There are also Federation pilots with more shootdowns than Amuro.
Amuro was in a situation where he seemed to be panicking, closing his eyes and shooting, and then Char evaporates and dies as a regular pilot.
Well, in a way, things are progressing conveniently in the beginning.
The fact that there are various interpretations of the first episode makes it enjoyable, and the focus is on Jean.
Amuro is a combat machine, but at the beginning, he behaves like a wobbly walking child.
I’m flipping through the manual while doing maintenance and operating it.
If the regular soldiers are alive, the early stages should be incredibly easy.
If there are three pilots who are better than Ryu, and they get on a Gundam, then everyone except Char will die…
>>51
Even relatively talented Ryuu and jobs are not considered official, you know.
People are saying various things about Gene, but I believe that’s the difference between Char and everyone else.
I can’t believe they would suddenly move that far without even deciding for the other infantry to board.
Of course, ignoring orders can’t be considered a good thing, that’s only natural consideration.
>>56
The boss who gives orders directly intervenes, so improvisation works well.
If you dawdle, Amuro will ride you and you’ll be standing on the ground.
If you leave it alone, a Gundam that belongs to the Federation will end up standing on the ground just without Amuro in it.
Suddenly driven by something, Char made an incredible play.
The actions of a petty soldier ignoring orders are quite different from a commanding officer who assesses the situation and adjusts the plan accordingly.
That said, I do think Char is somewhat spontaneous…
>>59
In this case, it’s simply that he went out of control, not that he couldn’t follow orders out of a necessity based on on-site judgment.
Such things cannot possibly lead to good results.
The inspiration at that time (If you don’t go, I can’t create a story where Zeon wins, so go).
There’s no doubt that Char is an amazing pilot, but the performance difference between the Zaku and the Gundam is too great, and if he were a standard pilot, I feel like he would be in danger relatively early on.
>>61
Since they were almost the same specs with Gundams, Char was able to win, but with Zaku, he can’t land a decisive blow.
>>64
If it’s a Heat Hawk, I can break through Luna Chita, but it seems like I might lose if I get ambushed while trying to engage in close combat.
Actually, among the mechanics, there’s someone who is living their second life, and could it be that this guy intentionally broke his Zaku?
>>62
Isn’t there some kind of intervention, like with Matu’s smartphone?
Considering the state of the parts on the Guncannon and Guntank, if the Gundam were weak, even with Amuro piloting it, it would likely lose to the Slay in Side 7.
Looking at the 1st Mobile Suit Gundam again, I can’t help but think that since Char himself entered the colony in episode 2, he could have just piloted a Zaku for reconnaissance from the start.
>>67
I know that the idea of using a flanking maneuver is understandable since there’s no way to know about the regular soldiers being dead, but that place is fine for using a Zaku, right?
Even with Amuro Gundam while referring to the manual, there’s nothing that can be done against a Zaku, and if it’s piloted by someone who can handle it properly, a squad consisting only of Musai and Zaku wouldn’t stand a chance, whether it’s Char or anyone else, it’s just unreasonable.
If Char either dies or remains under Doms’ command, Lala won’t be discovered, so if Char doesn’t have the mysterious impulse to pilot the Gundam, it seems like it won’t differ from the official history.
Considering what happened, both Char stealing the Gundam and Amuro piloting the Gundam are events with very low probabilities.
It feels like the usual flow would be for Jean to completely wipe out the V project results and that’s the end of it.
>>69
In that case, the Gundam data won’t be reflected, so the GM will move a little slower, which will only increase the Federation’s damage, while the Zeon side will still be in a dire situation…
>>72
Zionic won’t unify the Gundam either.
When it goes out of control, Pilot Amuro is born.
If I just follow orders and end up only scouting, then the regular soldier Gundam team consists of 3 sets still intact.
If you have the aircraft trouble + Char’s mysterious impulse set, you can win.
>>73
There was a possibility that the regular army Gundam team would have lost to Char.
>>76
In both the official history and Ziggurats, it seems difficult for Char piloting a Zaku to take down a proper pilot in a Gundam…
>>82
If you hit with the heat hawk, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll win.
The performance gap between the Gundam and Zaku is so significant that if Jean didn’t screw up, it would be quite tough for Char.
>>74
The pilot of Unit 1 was quite skilled, so it would have been dangerous against a Zaku.
Even if Gene breaks the orders, it’s fine; anyway, it would be good to efficiently destroy at least the Gundam’s cockpit before Tenpa gets on.
The fatal point of this development is that after defeating Solomon, we couldn’t stop NT’s all-range attacks and couldn’t move on to the Aoba District, so it ultimately comes down to whether Amuro is present or not.
>>77
Originally, I think Blaublack is merely a powerful MA, and Hermes has too much of a burden on Lal’ah to diversify, so I believe they can only force it through.
Kuwax’s development of psychommu technology is kind of strange…
I wonder if the reason Zeon was able to quickly expand the Newtype skill tree was because Char was frequently on the battlefield.
In official history, I’d be relegated.
The federation doesn’t have the know-how for MS battles, so there’s no guarantee that regular soldiers are strong.
>>80
The Gundam was incredibly strong, wasn’t it?
>>88
I think it’s a bit unconvincing because they are too accustomed to MS battles.
Thinking meta-critically, it might just be that Char is a mere decoy.
>>92
It is a machine and pilot that have been manufactured and trained with the expectation of facing MS from the very beginning.
The quality of training differs from pilots who have been developed for and have continued to conduct anti-ship attacks.
>>100
It’s the difference between an attacker aircraft and a fighter aircraft in aviation.
There is no reason that a generation-old attack aircraft can win against the latest advanced fighter jets.
>>80
Trainee Ryu also receives combat advice from Amuro.
Amuro’s adaptation is strange.
No matter what Char does, he’s still a Zeon soldier, but it’s not a certainty that Amuro will join the Federation…
It turns out that Gene drawing too many good random numbers back there became the turning point.
Char will deplete the Zaku from here on a squad level, so that’s why he will get scolded.
The Zaku’s weapons are ineffective.
In the first place, I don’t think Zeon has any know-how for dealing with MS battles.
Even if they’re having mock battles with Zaku, the premise for Gundam becomes something entirely different.
>>91
As mentioned in the play, the battle at Side 7 is the first hand-to-hand combat involving mobile suits in history.
Upon reconsideration, it’s strange that Char, who often wants to take the lead, is leaving the operation to investigate the Federation’s top-secret plan to his subordinates and just watching the situation.
Well, since I’m the commander, it’s only natural to delegate to my subordinates.
>>93
It might be a trauma due to the matter from the first episode in the historical records.
>>93
It was originally just a reconnaissance mission, and since they assigned a veteran officer, I think it also served as a way to acclimate the new recruits.
It was just that I was an unexpected fool.
>>108
In this regard, they’re saying that they couldn’t control the denim.
Ignoring orders is certainly Gene’s fault, but Denim’s responsibility is also quite significant.
The reason why Denim and Jean, who were supposed to survive, do not appear in later scenes is whether they were transferred or simply absent.
Did he die…?
The pilot of 01 honestly tried to draw their beam saber and lost a move.
Conversely, it means that there was no definitive difference other than that level of adaptability.
At the point of episode 1, it’s not about Amuro or anything, it’s that Gundam is a super robot…
>>96
Well, it does follow the evolution of weapons (neutralizing the enemy’s weapons while our attacks are effective), at least.
Where did the official history of the 01 Gundam go?
>>97
Unknown
In Origin, it’s a mutual destruction with Zaku.
A Newtype who read emotions through the cockpit.
Major! I made it here!
The theory that the Proto Gundam was destroyed at Side 7 is strong but unconfirmed.
There are factions that excessively assert the theory that the Full Armor Gundam is a prototype Gundam, which has led to some being wary of them.
Gene reported that the Federation’s MS was transported to the new battleship! If that was where the report ended, then whether or not Char would pursue would be a matter for him to decide…
Since there are various unknown factors, it is also possible that we might decide to stop the pursuit and return to Zeon.
If Zeta Gundam gets broadcasted, there’s a possibility it could be a world line where Amuro should have been piloting!
>>111
At the time of UC85, there were refugees in the colony, and they had built a fairly sizable town.
We won’t know what the world situation is like outside of the colony where Machu and the others are until the broadcast starts.
>>119
If it’s about refugees, there are plenty in the official records too.
>>119
Even though independence might provide a better sense of self-esteem, economically, it’s definitely better to follow the established path…
>>124
Side 3 was able to be industrialized through the sale of Zeonic resources, but it’s losing to Side 6 in terms of Zieg Aks.
>>111
It really depends on how things go with Gihren still being in good shape.
The problem that someone who might kill Shirocco doesn’t seem likely to pop up.
The Federation MS was created by thoroughly examining the captured Zaku, and they probably have high scores in simulator training as well.
Even if you say that, the portrayal of the Federation pilots in the official history is only at a low level.
Even Sleggar only flies aircraft.
>>113
The test pilots, who were regular pilots involved in MS development, were all dead by the time of Side 7!
For now, I think it would be quite tough to consider that there are pilots equal to or even greater than Ryu-san, who can pilot the Gundam, and there are several of them.
In the main story, Char received resupply about twice, and could only send around 10 Zaku to pursue the White Base.
>>114
I don’t get the impression that Ryu is that skilled with MS…
By narrowing down the targets without unnecessary attacks, the curly-haired one won’t come out of the shelter, and even if they do, it has been determined that they won’t be a threat since we can’t obtain the Gundam manual.
>>116
Don’t shoot the shelter, don’t generate stray bullets, don’t shoot the refugees, and you can disrupt Amuro’s deployment route.
But that test pilot is just an amateur who leaves the Gundam idling, you know?
In the early stages, Gundam and Zaku are so different from real tanks and infantry that they are too much like super robots.
If I quietly go back as I am, I won’t know that the Zaku machine gun doesn’t work, and I won’t know about the beam rifle either, so it seems like Char and the others will be wiped out and it will end.
The regular pilots who were on units 4 and 5 seem to have some skill.
>>123
I don’t think Fold and the others would leave the cockpit open like that.
Amuro is not present, but Gundam exists → The Federation wins.
Destroy the Gundam → Federation wins
So there are really few routes for Zeon to win.
The novel version of Lalah was a refugee from the same Side as Exabé-kun.
I had a normal upbringing, but to survive until I was picked up by Char, I was selling myself.
If anything, everyone in Sweetwater is a refugee.
They’re cramming all the refugees into the defective colony.
It seems that the Zeek Aks world hasn’t been able to rebuild the colonies destroyed by Zeon, and the space might be more sparse than in the main story.
The cruel reality is that the Zeon, which instigated the war, is being pushed back to the point of having Solomon captured through either route, making complete victory impossible regardless.
On that basis, would it show its fangs as a republic or could it maintain itself as a principality?
In the first place, the official history says that the Federation’s rampant establishment of defective colonies for the sake of bribery from the public corporation has made taxes ridiculously high.
The economic situation of the Spacenoids is normally bad.
In the Zieg Axis world, remnants of the Federation are emerging instead of Zeon remnants.
Since the broadcast of Zieg Ax, it’s amusing to see so many people glorifying the governance of the True History Federation.
It is undoubtedly a very important divergence, but it might not even affect the outcome of the war.
To connect with the other side, we probably need a Gundam too.
Because we were holding up a slogan like “Space Noid Co-Prosperity Sphere”…
As expected, it’s moving… It feels like they’re aware of various things.
I can’t remember what benefits there were from the Federation governing space in the official history.
>>142
Nothing
>>142
Space has a larger population and is attractive as a market.
But the governance costs are probably reaching their limit.
There is also a pattern where Amuro is among the pilot trainees like in the novel version.
If the Federation wins, they’ll have to go through the trouble of rebuilding the colonies.
>>145
I’m getting a rebate and it’s fantastic!
It’s fine to just make the outer shell and leave it, so it doesn’t take much effort.
That hype includes Shangri-La, Moon Moon, Sweet Quarter, and Frontier.
>>145
They also create new colonies for refugees…
Since you know that the Zaku machine gun is ineffective and you are outnumbered, even Char would be almost cornered in that situation.
On our side, we die with a single beam, and if the battleship is brought down, that would be checkmate.
>>149
Just having multiple options allows for dispersion, so the moment you can only deal with Char, the choices you can take increase dramatically.
In extreme terms, if you use one Gundam as a decoy and take down the Musai, then even if Char defeats the Gundam, it won’t matter.
>>155
With the Gundam, mid-range Gun Cannon, and long-range Gun Tank all together, even for Char, it would be impossible.
The Federation is rebuilding the colonies and it’s impressive! But I guess it’s a trend or something.
There are a lot of colonies that are like trash, even just in visual works, and they’ve been criticized for not doing anything substantial.
Federal officials are rather making colonies and getting paid for it.
The source of funding is the taxes from Spacenoids.
I made a lot of colonies, but the construction was rough.
Maintenance costs are cut down.
It’s broken because they don’t maintain the frontier’s weather control system properly.
Sweetwater was a hastily constructed colony for refugee housing, and wasn’t Moon Moon the one that was both an experimental base and a construction hub that was sold to the private sector?
>>154
Even though it’s said to be a quick fix, there’s no intention to improve even after some time has passed.
Moon Moon was making drugs.
Even without Gundam, as long as I have the shoulder beam cannon and Gundam hammer, I won’t lose to Zeon!
>>156
How was the result?
>>158
I was able to clear Solomon!
It seems that there might be differences in the technology tree for weapon development, so it’s not that this one alone has branched out significantly, but it is bound to become a singularity.
Isn’t Shangri-La the first colony ever built, so it wasn’t in bad shape?
>>160
Was Side 1 completely annihilated in the One Year War, or was it a rebuilt colony?
The cost of the colony’s UV protection is entirely converted into resort expenses.
This is the mechanism of the magic card of Senhas.
The truth is that the federation just wants to live comfortably on Earth until they die.
It’s just that I’m governing out of necessity because if something like Zeon were to rampage again, it would be unbearable.
The regular pilots who were heavily trained against MS, and the thread images showing them taking down two Gundams, multiple Gun Cannons, and tanks are definitely heroes, right?
Even if it’s a colony that has broken neutrality, if they commit such a massacre, I won’t be surprised if Side 3 does the same thing to them.
Even the politicians who were enthusiastic about properly fixing the colony…
I’m powerless against the magical card.
The bond deepens.
>>168
“Give a bullet to every popular reformist politician among the citizens!”
It’s a mystery how they maintain industrial productivity in that world while federal officials are goofing off.
>>169
The moon is doing its best.
Seriously.
>>169
Isn’t the site handling it somehow?
>>172
Due to economic disparity, private demand is not thriving, so there is a lack of savings and no funds available for capital investment, and since public welfare is failing, it seems unlikely that workers can be secured, which suggests that there may be nothing that can be done on-site.
In the first place, there are probably more resources in space than on Earth.
In the Zeta Axes world, there was a pretty close feeling even with Char’s Gundam vs. the regular soldier Gundam.
I feel like it would have still been quite a predicament even if it had been a scenario of Char’s Zaku vs. Gundam without stealing.
Is the Zabi family better than the federal high command…?
Thus, Anaheim will be destroyed and enter the Stone Age.
I wouldn’t say the Zabi family is completely decent, but…
I don’t think it’s possible that the Space Noise of Zeek Axes is harsher than the true history.
It seems that the number of times colonies get dropped will decrease, so the possibility of converging on G-Saver (food crisis) is relatively low…
Basically, the standard of living is determined by productivity, so for federal high-ranking officials to enjoy themselves, a corresponding economic foundation is necessary, but it’s a gap society like in the 19th century, isn’t it, in the Universal Century?